is/was your LO a really bad sleeper? support and advise thread!

[flippityflop]

LO down at 8.30pm with bottle. He's been a bit off with his naps today so we'll see how it goes but I'm suspecting an unsettled night.

Hope everyone's evening is going calmly and that the night is sleep-filled

Good luck Lisa. I found it didn't matter too much about their naps in the end. Another nail in the coffin of "sleep begets sleep", although since CC the minimum nap time is about 2 hrs total per day.

 

[AngelUK]

Good luck everyone . My mum sent us some Hipp fennel tea from Switzerland (where she lives) which is not available in UK shops it seems but is quite common in German speaking countries. We are going to try giving this to Dom instead of his 4am bottle. If he still wants food then he can have milk but maybe it is just a habit? He is a strapping lad at over 9kg and I don't think he needs that bottle. Will let you know how it goes. Hope you all have a lovely restful night

 

[lisa1980]

LO down at 8.30pm with bottle. He's been a bit off with his naps today so we'll see how it goes but I'm suspecting an unsettled night.

Hope everyone's evening is going calmly and that the night is sleep-filled

Good luck Lisa. I found it didn't matter too much about their naps in the end. Another nail in the coffin of "sleep begets sleep", although since CC the minimum nap time is about 2 hrs total per day.

Thanks, I'm sure you're right.

None of the 'gospel truths' told about sleep seem to have ever been true for my LO so I don't know why I always revert back to them?!

 

[Lulu1982]

A late post from me to report a very good start to the night ... Not even a wimped after I out her down, she just watched her seahorse and went straight to sleep!

Will be interesting to see if she is up a lot tonight but so far all quiet since 7pm!

Bit delayed in posting this evening as just found out I'm pregnant!! I think I'm mad!!

 

[lisa1980]

A late post from me to report a very good start to the night ... Not even a wimped after I out her down, she just watched her seahorse and went straight to sleep!

Will be interesting to see if she is up a lot tonight but so far all quiet since 7pm!

Bit delayed in posting this evening as just found out I'm pregnant!! I think I'm mad!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

 

[lisa1980]

A late post from me to report a very good start to the night ... Not even a wimped after I out her down, she just watched her seahorse and went straight to sleep!

Will be interesting to see if she is up a lot tonight but so far all quiet since 7pm!

Bit delayed in posting this evening as just found out I'm pregnant!! I think I'm mad!!

Hang on....that must mean that you've had SEX when you could have been SLEEPING!!

You'll have to let me in on the secret to that

 

[AngelUK]

Lulu massive massive congrats! How wonderful! Though yes you are mad LOL!

Hang on....that must mean that you've had SEX when you could have been SLEEPING!!

That made me !
Ladies, you all seriously enrich this tired mummy's life! I am sending you all loads of !

 

[flippityflop]

CONGRATULATIONS LULU!!!!!!!!!!!! AMAZING . To be boring and bring it back down to earth, would you do anything different this time around?

 

[flippityflop]

Hi ladies, just wanted to drop by and see how things have been going.I'm still currently in Poland on my family trip for my brothers wedding.
To say I was apprehensive about the trip is an understatement. we had to leave the house for the airport at 6.30am. Had to wake lo at 6am and I thought she might sleep on the way in the car.......nope walked her around the terminal building but it was too noisy. she finally went to sleep on the plane and slept most of the flight so far the trip is ok and sleep hasn't been too awful,touch wood. just need to see how the wedding goes today
Will update.

sounds like its going great! have fun at the wedding!

 

[kosh]

A late post from me to report a very good start to the night ... Not even a wimped after I out her down, she just watched her seahorse and went straight to sleep!

Will be interesting to see if she is up a lot tonight but so far all quiet since 7pm!

Bit delayed in posting this evening as just found out I'm pregnant!! I think I'm mad!!

omg - congratulationssssssss!!!!!

A late post from me to report a very good start to the night ... Not even a wimped after I out her down, she just watched her seahorse and went straight to sleep!

Will be interesting to see if she is up a lot tonight but so far all quiet since 7pm!

Bit delayed in posting this evening as just found out I'm pregnant!! I think I'm mad!!

Hang on....that must mean that you've had SEX when you could have been SLEEPING!!

i guess the only chance I'd have to be pregnant again would be immaculate conception

 

[Lulu1982]

Ahaha! That cracked me up! Obviously found the energy somewhere! Woke up with a coldsore this morning that turned into 5 by lunch time ... I've only ever had one coldsore before which is when I was pregnant with ava!

Flippity - I will know that it's okay just to leave your baby if they are happy rather than always feeling as though I need to do something to stimulate them.

I'll buy a steriliser for when I inish brestfeeding (pans suck!)

I won't change its nappy every hour and presume that's the cause for the crying!

I will pray to the gods that ava is still having decent length naps so I can sleep!

Most of all I'll recognise the difference between squeaking and moaning and proper crying to at least give him/her a chance of learning to settle before I leap in there and start dancing around the room for 2 hours!

Also I'll probably repeat all my mistakes and make more on top!x

 

[kosh]

sorry to change the subjects,but can I ask ladies - when your LOs wake up say every hour, do they moan? whinge? cry? Mine cries and recently he seems to be in pain/discomfort, I'm starting to think there's something wrong with his tummy.

 

[flippityflop]

sorry to change the subjects,but can I ask ladies - when your LOs wake up say every hour, do they moan? whinge? cry? Mine cries and recently he seems to be in pain/discomfort, I'm starting to think there's something wrong with his tummy.

Cormac would always cry instantly, no moaning or groaning or gurgling. I now know he wasn't in pain but he just didn't want to be awake as it was his tired cry. Now when he wakes he just coos and gurgles and only cries after about 20 minutes if I haven't been to get him which oonly happens first thing in the morning as I lay there listening to him play with his sheep.

What makes you think there is something wrong with his tummy?

 

[the why bird]

We had another bad night.

Daddy didn't give her last feed when putting her down for the night (he's as frazzled as me so I forgive the oversight). So by 9pm she was crying for milk. We fed her and then dreamfed at 11.30 trying to leave it as late as possible. But then she was up two hours later and I lost track of how many times after that.

She didn't seem to be hungry when she was waking last night, so I guess we are successfully dropping night feeds. But she still woke just as often and I have no idea why!

It seemed every ten to fifteen minutes she would wake and yell and cry for five or ten seconds then go back to sleep. I tried to leave her to it since she was settling herself (obviously peeking in whilst she slept to make sure she wasn't in an odd position or anything). But she can't be getting good rest like that and neither was I since the crying still wakes me every time. I have no idea how we get her out of this kind of frequent semi-waking. Very disheartening!

 

[AngelUK]

kosh for me too it would have to be immaculate conception. We haven't dtd in over a year

Cormac would always cry instantly, no moaning or groaning or gurgling. I now know he wasn't in pain but he just didn't want to be awake as it was his tired cry. Now when he wakes he just coos and gurgles and only cries after about 20 minutes if I haven't been to get him which oonly happens first thing in the morning as I lay there listening to him play with his sheep.

What makes you think there is something wrong with his tummy?

That is the same for us with Dominic. He cries and if we don't go to settle him he will start crying louder till he goes into meltdown. I really think he just doesn't know how to resettle himself if he comes out of his sleep cycle and wakes even just a little.

OH told me it was a bad night last night and Dom was up every hour, from 11:30 on.

Why bird if she just does this for a few seconds and is totally fine, could you try putting on some white noise (ours is as loud as a running shower) during the night so that you won't hear every squeak? We hear the real crying but not every moan. Also, if she isn't in your room, get a video monitor so that you can see she is ok but you don't have to get up every time?
I know this is no help on finding out why she wakes or helping you her stop that but to save your sanity you need to find ways to sleep better too. Sending loads of

 

[lisa1980]

Kosh - my LO used to cry instantly every time he woke, but like Flippity I now see that it was because he was tired and didn't want to be awake but couldn't get back to sleep. I used to rush in right away and make it worse I think.

If your LO is very gassy and seems to be in discomfort it could be a tummy issue. Have you tried anything like infacol etc? What have you decided about trying an exclusion diet for a while?

WHybird - could she be uncomfortable, like teething or something? I'd agree with the white noise...I've turned our monitor down to the lowest setting so that I don't hear every noise as i can't sleep through it. TBH I can hear him if he really cries without the monitor on anyway as he's just nextdoor to us.

Angel - hopefully your night tonight will be better

How is everyone else? Mrs Hedgehog? How's the holiday Claire? Chocolala?

Our night was a bit more unsettled than the ones before (still a million miles better than it used to be though so I'm not complaining).

TBH I think it was my fault really. He slept from 8.30pm to 2am (seems to be a pattern now), when OH tried to resettle him with water. He went back to sleep within 5 minutes with 10secs crying when OH left his room.

He then woke up 45 mins later so I assumed he MUST be hungry and went in to BF him. He fed a tiny bit (literally a few seconds after some coaxing) so I'm not really sure if he was actually hungry really . Anyway, I was tired and he was quite awake so I made the mistake of taking him into the bed in the nursery with me. After around 2 hours of shuffling and stirring and waking every 10mins I had had anough and put him back in his cot, awake, and left the room. He cried for 5secs and then went to sleep until 8am So I'm pretty sure if I had just left him to it at 3am he'd have probably settle back to sleep himself and I was actually keeping him up and disturbing him by putting him in the bed with me. Honestly, you'd think I'd have learned by now...whatever i think I should do, I should actually do the opposite So much for mother's intuition Oh well, you live and learn.

 

[Lulu1982]

Ava. Slightly unsettled in the army ours. Telstra 2 nights she has been up for a 2 and a half hour stretch just fussing and chatting. OH had her last night for the first time in a week so I'm recharge and ready to recommend battle this evening!

 

[AngelUK]

I must admit Lulu parts of those first two sentences baffle me lol

 

[lisa1980]

I must admit Lulu parts of those first two sentences baffle me lol

Me too!

Life must have been dull before predicitve text

 

[chocolala]

All ok here, just been busy finishing the 50 shades trilogy, so addictive! I want a Christian Gray!

Last couple of days lily has only had 1 nap and she's gone to sleep of an evening so much more easily! Only thing is, after 45 mins or so she starts waking herself up, last night I spent a good 30 mins jiggling her round the lounge trying to stop her waking fully, it worked though it was hard work. I am exhausted today though, it's partly my own fault as I wanted to finish my book, but mainly because there were times last night where lily was waking every 10 or so mins, I wasn't best pleased, but I did get to finish 50 shades.

We're currently battling nap time, but lily is busy pissing about

Good news, we have an appointment with an osteopath tomorrow. I'm excited about it, but at the same time I don't want to get my hopes up. We'll see.

Kosh- normally lily only whinges when she wakes, or just roots, but if, and this is how she used to be in the past, she woke more fully she would cry because she wasn't wanting to be awake.