IUI/IVF Aug/Sept/Oct/November

[PCOSMomToTwo]

How do you change the title of the thread?

I have no clue ... but I know it's possible because ladies are changing their journal titles all the time. Let me go try to play with my journal title

 

[PCOSMomToTwo]

AH-HA! Ok, go to the 1st page of the Thread and click EDIT, then go to ADVANCED, it should let you change the thread title!

 

[Touch the Sky]

Thanks girl!

 

[Want2bMum]

hi ladies,
i have been reading this thread and you all seem very nice... so maybe i can ask you few questions???

well, we have been ttc for not long, maybe on and off without thinking of ovulation and right timing for 5 months and obsessively for 5 more. during these obsessive 5 months i realised that i only ovulated 2 months, so i went to a specialist that put me on 100mg of clomid.

this specialist is in my home country and i live in the uk so for the first 2 clomid cycles i didn't get scans to see how the situation was progressing, but with bbt charting i could see that i was ovulating.

this is my third month on clomid and i decided to go to a fertility clinic here in the uk for a better care. they scanned me at day 7 (the last of clomid) and they saw 1 follicle of 16.5mm on my right ovary + many other smaller ones in both ovaries. they scanned me again at day 13 and saw a follicle of 19.5mm on my right ovary and a 14.5mm one on my left. this means that the follicle on my right ovary only grew 3mm in a week.

they triggered with hcg on day 14 which is today.

they also suggested me that my next cycle should be medicated IUI or injectables with no IUI, my choice.

my questions are:
what do you ladies think of my slow growing follicle? do i stand any chance this month? and what about the 14.5mm follicle, how much can it mature in a day and subsequent hcg shot?

i read in the first page of this thread that in a clomid cycle the follicles are expected to be between 20 and 24mm. the same for un-medicated cycle.
why do you think follicles are bigger in an un-medicated cycle? i thought that with clomid and injectables people reached a better size follicle...

also, i can't help but wondering if i went to the specialist too early, i mean, during the previous months of ttc i don't even know if we ever Caught ovulation, we were very distracted, very relaxed, we ttc on and off... basically i can only be sure of the following 5 months because i was taking bbt and was trying to catch ovulation in the right days...

what do you think? shell i try without medications for few months? or do you think that if it didn't even happen with clomid, then i do have a problem and should go for either more clomid, injectables or IUI?

i honestly don't know what to think! can it be that i screwed things up by going for medications so soon??? i really need an advice!!!

thank you girls for taking the time to read this post

i wish you all a lot of luck and a BFP this very month!!!

 

[Harvest2009]

Yay for no cysts PCOS! That is great news! Hope your pains go away

Yay for the new thread name! Couldn't imagine starting IVF without you girls around for support you are all so great

 

[Harvest2009]

hi ladies,
i have been reading this thread and you all seem very nice... so maybe i can ask you few questions???

well, we have been ttc for not long, maybe on and off without thinking of ovulation and right timing for 5 months and obsessively for 5 more. during these obsessive 5 months i realised that i only ovulated 2 months, so i went to a specialist that put me on 100mg of clomid.

this specialist is in my home country and i live in the uk so for the first 2 clomid cycles i didn't get scans to see how the situation was progressing, but with bbt charting i could see that i was ovulating.

this is my third month on clomid and i decided to go to a fertility clinic here in the uk for a better care. they scanned me at day 7 (the last of clomid) and they saw 1 follicle of 16.5mm on my right ovary + many other smaller ones in both ovaries. they scanned me again at day 13 and saw a follicle of 19.5mm on my right ovary and a 14.5mm one on my left. this means that the follicle on my right ovary only grew 3mm in a week.

they triggered with hcg on day 14 which is today.

they also suggested me that my next cycle should be medicated IUI or injectables with no IUI, my choice.

my questions are:
what do you ladies think of my slow growing follicle? do i stand any chance this month? and what about the 14.5mm follicle, how much can it mature in a day and subsequent hcg shot?

i read in the first page of this thread that in a clomid cycle the follicles are expected to be between 20 and 24mm. the same for un-medicated cycle.
why do you think follicles are bigger in an un-medicated cycle? i thought that with clomid and injectables people reached a better size follicle...

also, i can't help but wondering if i went to the specialist too early, i mean, during the previous months of ttc i don't even know if we ever Caught ovulation, we were very distracted, very relaxed, we ttc on and off... basically i can only be sure of the following 5 months because i was taking bbt and was trying to catch ovulation in the right days...

what do you think? shell i try without medications for few months? or do you think that if it didn't even happen with clomid, then i do have a problem and should go for either more clomid, injectables or IUI?

i honestly don't know what to think! can it be that i screwed things up by going for medications so soon??? i really need an advice!!!

thank you girls for taking the time to read this post

i wish you all a lot of luck and a BFP this very month!!!

In my experience follicles grow between 1 and 3 mm per day, some months I have had some slow growers and some months super fast, not too sure the reason but I think this is pretty normal.

With clomid and injectibles you get a better quality follicle not neccesarily bigger.

As far as timing goes, when you seek treatment depends on some things like your age, and your fertility diagnosis. Have you had all the blood work, SA, and HSG? That would play a huge role in what treatment is best for you.

Hope this helps

 

[PCOSMomToTwo]

hi ladies,
i have been reading this thread and you all seem very nice... so maybe i can ask you few questions???

well, we have been ttc for not long, maybe on and off without thinking of ovulation and right timing for 5 months and obsessively for 5 more. during these obsessive 5 months i realised that i only ovulated 2 months, so i went to a specialist that put me on 100mg of clomid.

this specialist is in my home country and i live in the uk so for the first 2 clomid cycles i didn't get scans to see how the situation was progressing, but with bbt charting i could see that i was ovulating.

this is my third month on clomid and i decided to go to a fertility clinic here in the uk for a better care. they scanned me at day 7 (the last of clomid) and they saw 1 follicle of 16.5mm on my right ovary + many other smaller ones in both ovaries. they scanned me again at day 13 and saw a follicle of 19.5mm on my right ovary and a 14.5mm one on my left. this means that the follicle on my right ovary only grew 3mm in a week.

they triggered with hcg on day 14 which is today.

they also suggested me that my next cycle should be medicated IUI or injectables with no IUI, my choice.

my questions are:
what do you ladies think of my slow growing follicle? do i stand any chance this month? and what about the 14.5mm follicle, how much can it mature in a day and subsequent hcg shot?

i read in the first page of this thread that in a clomid cycle the follicles are expected to be between 20 and 24mm. the same for un-medicated cycle.
why do you think follicles are bigger in an un-medicated cycle? i thought that with clomid and injectables people reached a better size follicle...

also, i can't help but wondering if i went to the specialist too early, i mean, during the previous months of ttc i don't even know if we ever Caught ovulation, we were very distracted, very relaxed, we ttc on and off... basically i can only be sure of the following 5 months because i was taking bbt and was trying to catch ovulation in the right days...

what do you think? shell i try without medications for few months? or do you think that if it didn't even happen with clomid, then i do have a problem and should go for either more clomid, injectables or IUI?

i honestly don't know what to think! can it be that i screwed things up by going for medications so soon??? i really need an advice!!!

thank you girls for taking the time to read this post

i wish you all a lot of luck and a BFP this very month!!!

I got a few questions and a few opinions

First, how did you find out that you weren't ovulating?? Did they run blood tests? Or were you just OPK'ing???

Also, they say "on average" a follicle should grow 1-2mm per day ... but I do believe this is just an average. I have had a follicle grow almost 3mm per day and I have had a follicle grow ZERO in 2 days. I wouldn't stress too much about how fast or slow a follicle grows on any given day. The number I would be looking at is how big it is at CD14 ... which a 19.5mm at CD14 is GREAT! Now the HCG trigger shot WILL help mature those follies a little more, so there is a chance the smaller one will pop too!

Regarding Clomid creating a better size ... this can be true, BUT it's main function is to produce a good quality egg inside the follicle. Unfortunately we never get to see what is inside the follicle and that's what really counts! You definitely can have a nice perfect egg inside a 16-18mm follicle.

Regarding yes or no on the Clomid ... depending on where you live and what your doctor "regimen" is ... I prefer Femara and have always had better luck on it. Less side effects and it doesn't mess with your uterine lining like Clomid does. I didn't see a fertility specialist until 1 year of unsuccessful attempts...but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take the Clomid. It's a very personal decision ... if you feel you need it or the doctor feels you need it, then I would take it. BUT, having said that, has the doctor run any tests on you??? Blood work?? HSG??? Ultrasounds to check for PCOS??? Has your husband had a Semen Analysis??? Those could really help you make the right decision. If all the tests come back normal, then I am sure you will get pregnant in a matter of time (Clomid may just speed up the process )

I hope I helped a smidgin!!! Good luck on your BFP!!!!

 

[Want2bMum]

hello ladies,

thank you for your replies!!!

i realised i wasn't ovulating because i didn't have AF. we started TTC on and off, very relaxed and with no clue of ovulation in july 2010 until november 2010. in december 2010 we started timing ovulation with BBT and OPK but i didn't get AF in august, december, january and february, had the first positive OPK in march. this is why i went to the specialist, because i thought that if i wasn't ovulating there was no point in trying. the specialist run all tests in march and they came back normal, but march was one of the months i did ovulate... hubby SA is fine too. i didn't have HSG done though.

they put me on clomid because i don't ovulate every month and when i ovulate, it's very late in the cycle so they thought it could help me, but the late ovulation or no ovulation could have been caused by stress as i was under enormous ammount of work stress..

i don't know though how the first 2 months went on clomid as i didn't have any scan. the first scan i got was on day 7 of the third cycle when they saw a 16.5mm follicle which they thought it was a cyst. turns out it was a follicle instead. nobody ever thought much of the cause of my possible infertility. they just put me on clomid and in this new fertility clinic they just suggested medicated IUI or injectables...

i honestly don't know what to do for my next cycle, whether to stay on clomid, injectables or do IUI... the doc at the fertility clinic seems more interested in selling treatments rather than thinking with me what's the best option...

 

[Harvest2009]

hello ladies,

thank you for your replies!!!

i realised i wasn't ovulating because i didn't have AF. we started TTC on and off, very relaxed and with no clue of ovulation in july 2010 until november 2010. in december 2010 we started timing ovulation with BBT and OPK but i didn't get AF in august, december, january and february, had the first positive OPK in march. this is why i went to the specialist, because i thought that if i wasn't ovulating there was no point in trying. the specialist run all tests in march and they came back normal, but march was one of the months i did ovulate... hubby SA is fine too. i didn't have HSG done though.

they put me on clomid because i don't ovulate every month and when i ovulate, it's very late in the cycle so they thought it could help me, but the late ovulation or no ovulation could have been caused by stress as i was under enormous ammount of work stress..

i don't know though how the first 2 months went on clomid as i didn't have any scan. the first scan i got was on day 7 of the third cycle when they saw a 16.5mm follicle which they thought it was a cyst. turns out it was a follicle instead. nobody ever thought much of the cause of my possible infertility. they just put me on clomid and in this new fertility clinic they just suggested medicated IUI or injectables...

i honestly don't know what to do for my next cycle, whether to stay on clomid, injectables or do IUI... the doc at the fertility clinic seems more interested in selling treatments rather than thinking with me what's the best option...

I would for sure get an HSG before doing IUI, it will show if your tubes are clear. If they aren't clear the IUI won't work and would be a waste of time, money and emotions for you.

 

[LiSa2010]

pcosmom yay for no cysts.. sorry you're still having pain around your ovaries.... I have no idea what it could be... I hope it goes away and you get your

Want2bMum, Im sending you loads of baby this is my first time taking infertility drugs and going through IUI so not sure I can help you much with your questions.... good luck, I hope you get your

everyone!!!

well AF arrived yesterday and I have my baseline u/s and b/w scheduled for 7:15am tomorrow morning yay woohoo. I hope everything goes well and I can start the meds and IUI

 

[Springy]

hi ladies,
i have been reading this thread and you all seem very nice... so maybe i can ask you few questions???

well, we have been ttc for not long, maybe on and off without thinking of ovulation and right timing for 5 months and obsessively for 5 more. during these obsessive 5 months i realised that i only ovulated 2 months, so i went to a specialist that put me on 100mg of clomid.

this specialist is in my home country and i live in the uk so for the first 2 clomid cycles i didn't get scans to see how the situation was progressing, but with bbt charting i could see that i was ovulating.

this is my third month on clomid and i decided to go to a fertility clinic here in the uk for a better care. they scanned me at day 7 (the last of clomid) and they saw 1 follicle of 16.5mm on my right ovary + many other smaller ones in both ovaries. they scanned me again at day 13 and saw a follicle of 19.5mm on my right ovary and a 14.5mm one on my left. this means that the follicle on my right ovary only grew 3mm in a week.

they triggered with hcg on day 14 which is today.

they also suggested me that my next cycle should be medicated IUI or injectables with no IUI, my choice.

my questions are:
what do you ladies think of my slow growing follicle? do i stand any chance this month? and what about the 14.5mm follicle, how much can it mature in a day and subsequent hcg shot?

i read in the first page of this thread that in a clomid cycle the follicles are expected to be between 20 and 24mm. the same for un-medicated cycle.
why do you think follicles are bigger in an un-medicated cycle? i thought that with clomid and injectables people reached a better size follicle...

also, i can't help but wondering if i went to the specialist too early, i mean, during the previous months of ttc i don't even know if we ever Caught ovulation, we were very distracted, very relaxed, we ttc on and off... basically i can only be sure of the following 5 months because i was taking bbt and was trying to catch ovulation in the right days...

what do you think? shell i try without medications for few months? or do you think that if it didn't even happen with clomid, then i do have a problem and should go for either more clomid, injectables or IUI?

i honestly don't know what to think! can it be that i screwed things up by going for medications so soon??? i really need an advice!!!

thank you girls for taking the time to read this post

i wish you all a lot of luck and a BFP this very month!!!

Here is my 2 cents on your post ....

Definitely you should be requesting an HSG & full blood work ups. As Harvest says, without an HSG you will not know if your tubes are open or not and if they are not open IUI, injectables, clomid etc are all worthless as there is no way that you would get pregnant.

As for how long you have been trying and whether you should just keep trying on your own, clearly if you aren't having AF every month and ovulating regularly you should be treated by a fertility specialist as the cycle monitoring even if it is in an unmedicated cycle will be the only way for you to actually know if you have ovulated.

I honestly don't think that you have "screwed" things up by going on medication quickly - the medication if anything for me allowed me to know and pin point ovulation.

What dose of Clomid did they use? If Femara is an option in your region you could ask that as it has produced great results for women on this forum. Canada doesn't use Femara for fertility so I used clomid.

Also, I had not been a full year of trying before being put on clomid. Hubby and I started to "try" in November of 2009. We just went with the flow for the first 4 months and said "whatever happens, happens" in March 2010 we started to use OPK and make sure we were timing things. When I saw my OBGYN in May of 2010 he told me that if we werent successful by the end of the summer to come see him and we would start to investigate things. So the notion of trying for a full year for women under 35 was not followed by my OBGYN either. So come September I made an appointment and the first thing he did was an HSG and semen analysis on my husband. When both those things came back normal he gave me 2 months of clomid and asked me to try that and then see what happened. So that brings us to January of this year .... still no BFP so we were sent to the fertility clinic for cycle monitoring & clomid. After our first month of timed intercourse with drugs and a trigger shot and still a BFN we moved to IUI. Move forward to May and 2 failed IUI later on the highest dose of clomid they will use still no BFP. All I can think is THANK GOD I didn't wait till March of 2011 to start my investigations and get on medication ..... so personally I would stick with the clinic and continue with medication and IUIs, but that is TOTALLY my personal opinion and based on my experience.

I know that my next step will be injectables with IUI. We will do another 2 MAX 3 before we move to IVF.

 

[Touch the Sky]

hi ladies, happy wednesday!

hows everybody doing?

well i have an update.. i just found out that my insurance has an "out of pocket max", and i am just $300 away from satisfying it.. then my insurance will pay for everything 100%, including the IVF!! no huge co-pays.. the ivf is virtually free! i've never been so happy/relieved. so we will definitely go forward will IVF next cycle, assuming my cysts go away. hooray!

 

[LiSa2010]

oh wow that's great TTS!!!!

 

[Springy]

hi ladies, happy wednesday!

hows everybody doing?

well i have an update.. i just found out that my insurance has an "out of pocket max", and i am just $300 away from satisfying it.. then my insurance will pay for everything 100%, including the IVF!! no huge co-pays.. the ivf is virtually free! i've never been so happy/relieved. so we will definitely go forward will IVF next cycle, assuming my cysts go away. hooray!

That is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Touch the Sky]

thanks! i'm on cloud 9 today

 

[PCOSMomToTwo]

hi ladies, happy wednesday!

hows everybody doing?

well i have an update.. i just found out that my insurance has an "out of pocket max", and i am just $300 away from satisfying it.. then my insurance will pay for everything 100%, including the IVF!! no huge co-pays.. the ivf is virtually free! i've never been so happy/relieved. so we will definitely go forward will IVF next cycle, assuming my cysts go away. hooray!

That's frickin awesome news!!

Your cyst WILL go away.

 

[Michelle78]

Touch that is amazing! You were due for some good news!

I just got back from my CD 3 u/s and everything looks good, so I will start the 100 mg of clomid tonight. I hope the extra clomid does something for me this month!

 

[Springy]

Well I think today I can officially say is CD1 - YIPPEEE!!!! Never wanted AF to come early so badly in my life. Fingers crossed that the lap & dye is all that I needed to get pregnant on my own! If not IUIs will resume in September.

 

[Touch the Sky]

Yay Springy!! Let's get this show on the road!

 

[PCOSMomToTwo]

Well I think today I can officially say is CD1 - YIPPEEE!!!! Never wanted AF to come early so badly in my life. Fingers crossed that the lap & dye is all that I needed to get pregnant on my own! If not IUIs will resume in September.

HECK YES FOR CD1 SPRINGY


Hopefully everything is smoooth sailing and you get your BFP this month going the au naturale way!