Johnsons Baby products

[AimeeM]

doctor/scientists are the ones who say that chemicals are ok and they wont entertain the idea of natural remedies. It would put them out of a job

My brother has a degree in science and is totally the opposite! He hates chemicals, wont eat take away, doesn't drink alcohol etc, etc. I always ask him why and he says it is because he knows how full of crap it all is!

 

[AimeeM]

Thanks everyone for your replies! I didnt mean for this thread to cause any arguments. I am glad to get all of your points of view as it helps with making an informed decision.

I didnt know J&J tested on animals so that was really interesting and that article was informative as well so thank you.

J&J havent caused any dramas so far but with winter arriving I have noticed her skin is dryer than normal so will look at swapping to something that doesnt dry out her skin so much.

Still have no idea what to swap to but will give some of your suggestions a try!

Ta XX

we use oilatum junior, it is good for eczema but also dry skin and it cleanses so you need nothing else just a cap full of this in the bath. You can get it in boots or from the doc.

 

[Bee26]

get OVER yourselves!

 

[cazza1982]

On Animal testing although its not nice to think of then not all Animal testing is cruel to Animals and Who Here is going to offer up their Newborn or any child for these things to be tested on ? or buy a completely untested product ? unfortunatly if we want to have safety standerds and protect our LO's then these products ALL have to be tested even Natural and Organic ones they all gotta be tested on somthing so would you rather they tested it on a shaved pigs back or on your Child ? if they did away with all animal testing then NO new medications would ever reach us,

I know I am going to get a load of boo's, but I tend to agree with this.

My little man has been on so much medication in his short little life for his operations/post operations etc etc. So to know that Johnsons tests on animals although is not a particularly nice thought, would make me a hypocrite if I was to get all up in arms over it just for the sheer amount of medication Charlie has received which has more than likely come from testing on all sorts to ensure the safety. Hell, I wonder where Calpol and Bonjela came from and what it had to incur to pass the safety testing to be put on the market??!!

Anywho, I use Johnsons products and I have found them to be very good...I even use the talc!!!!

xx

 

[Rachel_C]

To all those people saying "everything is linked to cancer these days, you can't live like that, it's ridiculous", well isn't that because our lives have changed a lot? We now put unnecesary chemicals in loads of things because we want them to last a bit longer on the shelves or we want them a pretty colour or to smell of synthetic baby. You say we can't live like that but everybody used to! Lots of people still do. Maybe you would find it hard to avoid everything but it's definitely a case of limiting your exposure being good for you. Lots of chemicals have safe "life time exposure" levels. Go over that and you're at risk, so why not just limit it where you can? Yes, we're not 100% SURE that certain things cause problems but why take the risk if you don't have to?

And if you're one of the ones who said how ridiculous it is, have you HAD cancer? I have (and it was a type that required a fairly mild treatment but it was still months of absolute HELL, plus living in fear that it will come back for the rest of my life) and I can tell you that there is not one of you who would wish that on your child and if you had any real idea of how nasty it is, you would do your absolute best to reduce the chances of your child having cancer. For clarity, because I know how much some people like to accuse others of things they have not said, I'm not suggesting that any of you WANTS your child to get cancer, but I am saying that it sounds to me like some of you are saying that seeing as there are loads of things that could cause cancer, you're not going to bother trying to avoid them. That is just daft, in my opinion. There are loads of cars on the roads too, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try to avoid them or try to keep my LO away from big roads!

 

[hancake100]

I have not read through all of the posts on here just skimmed through and then the last couple of pages and I cannot believe a thred talking about baby products have got so heated and off topic

IMO somes nicname for the site neurotic-mother&bump.com I think will offend many people and a bit OTT as we come on here to ask for and to offer advice and to have a little fun all mothers together, not for people to take this piss!!!!!!

Anyway more on topic about Johnsons products..........
The johnsons shampoo gave my lo cradle cap and the lotion (the pink one) made her skin very dry, But I use that on my skin now as I love it and it smells LUSH!!!
I have never used the wipes on her but I have for myself to take of make-up and found no problems with them.
I use the Johnsons naturals (the ones in the light green packaging and los skin is lovely, I use the intense moisture cream and the moisture rich bath and have had no problems with them

I think all babies and our skin is different and different products will work better for some and worse for others, Just test out a few and find something you like.

 

[MissBroody]

^ It will only offend those who think they ARE neurotic mothers wouldn't it... I'm so sick of hearing that you shouldnt write this or that because ''it could offend some mothers''. Not EVERYONE has to share the same views - I gave mine. Freedom of speech and all that. Last I write on this thread. Off to bathe LO in Johnsons top-to-toe wash...

 

[hancake100]

^ It will only offend those who think they ARE neurotic mothers wouldn't it... I'm so sick of hearing that you shouldnt write this or that because ''it could offend some mothers''. Not EVERYONE has to share the same views - I gave mine. Freedom of speech and all that. Last I write on this thread. Off to bathe LO in Johnsons top-to-toe wash...

People come on here to ask for advise and to enjoy themselves not to be labelled neurotic mothers yeah give your advise all you want but there is no need for stuff like that it petty!!!

I am all for johnsons as its been around for years..................... Hope your lo enjoys the johnsons top-to-toe wash!!!

 

[KrisKitten]

Ridiculous and OTT are different IMO so I feel you're putting words into my mouth there. Not giggling but being entertained and I'm not the only one as was directed to this thread by a friend who said to make a brew and be entertained by the Johnsons thread - so I'm sure im not the only one, just the only one with the balls to come out with it! I stand by what I said - there are worse things to worry about in life than brands of baby lotions.

Just to be picky lol the word ridiculous litterally means 'deserving of ridicule' so you did say the site was ridiculous as you said u and ur mum take the mick out of it

Im sorry, i just had to say it lol I do understnd ur point but i dont really think you should of had 'the balls to say it'. People dont say things like that not because they are scared to say them, but because saying things like that would upset other people, have them worry and worrying and they might think twice in future about posting a (maybe OTT but none the less worrying) question.
This forum is a pregnancy and baby forum - of course its full of peoples worrys and queries! How many threads are going to be posted saying 'you know what, LO was absolutely fine today. Whats peoples thoughts on this?'
So if you judge people only by the things they post onthis site then ok. Everyone is neurotic, obsessive, worrysome and scaremongering

To all those people saying "everything is linked to cancer these days, you can't live like that, it's ridiculous", well isn't that because our lives have changed a lot? We now put unnecesary chemicals in loads of things because we want them to last a bit longer on the shelves or we want them a pretty colour or to smell of synthetic baby. You say we can't live like that but everybody used to! Lots of people still do. Maybe you would find it hard to avoid everything but it's definitely a case of limiting your exposure being good for you. Lots of chemicals have safe "life time exposure" levels. Go over that and you're at risk, so why not just limit it where you can? Yes, we're not 100% SURE that certain things cause problems but why take the risk if you don't have to?

And if you're one of the ones who said how ridiculous it is, have you HAD cancer? I have (and it was a type that required a fairly mild treatment but it was still months of absolute HELL, plus living in fear that it will come back for the rest of my life) and I can tell you that there is not one of you who would wish that on your child and if you had any real idea of how nasty it is, you would do your absolute best to reduce the chances of your child having cancer. For clarity, because I know how much some people like to accuse others of things they have not said, I'm not suggesting that any of you WANTS your child to get cancer, but I am saying that it sounds to me like some of you are saying that seeing as there are loads of things that could cause cancer, you're not going to bother trying to avoid them. That is just daft, in my opinion. There are loads of cars on the roads too, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try to avoid them or try to keep my LO away from big roads!

I do know what ur saying hun, and im sorry youhad a problem with cancer
My point is this, all of the following things have been published in silly tabloids as saying they hav cancer causing properties:
Tomatoes
The sun (on a side note can u imagine how terrible sun dried tomatoes must be )
Beef
Skin products
Swimming pools (chlorine)
Non Organic foods
Car fumes
Medicines
The contraceptive pill
Pesticides
vaccinations
Toothpaste (flouride)
Underage sex
underwired bras
(i do accept btw that some of these things obviously could...in fact most probably all of them)

And those are just off the top of my head
I know there are more. My point is this, tbh if you weigh up the chances you are naturally going to get cancer just because thats how ur body was built, and the chances you are going to get cancer from any one of these things - then maybe people might stop panicking over them.
Its mad, and of course i dont want my LO to get cancer. If their was a pill he could take or w/e which would make sure he didnt of course he would have it, and if it wouldnt take away from his life and teach him to grow up fearing the world around him i would avoid every single one of these things.
In my view life is there for living, and i dont want him to grow up reading every ingredient on every packet and drooling over tabloid scare stories before he does anything xxx

 

[KrisKitten]

^ It will only offend those who think they ARE neurotic mothers wouldn't it... I'm so sick of hearing that you shouldnt write this or that because ''it could offend some mothers''. Not EVERYONE has to share the same views - I gave mine. Freedom of speech and all that. Last I write on this thread. Off to bathe LO in Johnsons top-to-toe wash...

I hate this opinion.
I agree that you shouldnt curb everything you say for fear of offending if the information needs to be shared - but calling people neurotic will not help anyone will it?
The ONLY two responses that will come from posting that will be someone reading and laughing at these peoples expense, or people being offended.
Therefor you are abusing your right to freedom of speech by using it for the sole reason of upsetting others iykwim? xx

 

[hancake100]

^ It will only offend those who think they ARE neurotic mothers wouldn't it... I'm so sick of hearing that you shouldnt write this or that because ''it could offend some mothers''. Not EVERYONE has to share the same views - I gave mine. Freedom of speech and all that. Last I write on this thread. Off to bathe LO in Johnsons top-to-toe wash...

I hate this opinion.
I agree that you shouldnt curb everything you say for fear of offending if the information needs to be shared - but calling people neurotic will not help anyone will it?
The ONLY two responses that will come from posting that will be someone reading and laughing at these peoples expense, or people being offended.
Therefor you are abusing your right to freedom of speech by using it for the sole reason of upsetting others iykwim? xx

 

[Jolinar]

Umm I've only waded through half this thread but I am an analytical chemist and a few things struck me about that report.

Firstly why have only half the products been tested for formaldehyde when they're making a huge hoo-hah about it? Surely for scientific unbias and completeness all products should have been treated the same? Which raises serious doubts for me about the motives/methods behind the report.

Secondly 200 parts per million stated for johnsons baby shampoo is very dilute, if you read the safety data sheets for most chemicals in their pure form it would scare the bejesus out of you and you would never go near them (just look up any household cleaner for instance). Thirdly there are products out there with much higher levels of chemicals in them than Johnsons.

Lastly our environment is full of natural and unnatural things that are either hazardous to health or cause cancer a certain amount of perspective is surely required when making an informed choice for our children. You will always get someone that reacts to something whether it be natural or man-made.

 

[Zoex89x]

i personally wouldnt worry about any of the reports and i havent read them as i wouldnt take any notice anyway-only because i think you could spend your life reading up on all the things that are bad for you and then end up worrying about anything and everthing (and lets face it theres hell of alot of things out there we shouldnt be using,eating and doing and yet we do anyway)i believe if a product was so bad it wouldnt still be being sold after all these years,so really i cant answer the op's question as i do know what is bad about the product but i wouldnt swap using johnstons unless of course lo was to react to it.
this is completly my own personal view on it and i agree that everyone is entitled to thier opions and i dont think that anyones choice on if they swap to natural products or not is wrong i think you just do whats best for you and your baby,i personally feel lifes to short for me to worry about what bath product has got what ingredient in as long as my lo's skin doesnt react to it and it smells good il be using it.

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

^ It will only offend those who think they ARE neurotic mothers wouldn't it... I'm so sick of hearing that you shouldnt write this or that because ''it could offend some mothers''. Not EVERYONE has to share the same views - I gave mine. Freedom of speech and all that. Last I write on this thread. Off to bathe LO in Johnsons top-to-toe wash...

IMO polite constructive criticism should be allowed to be given without fear of offending, but petty insults and making fun of the forum are pointless.

 

[bexxie]

jump on missbroody time or what? I think she is right........ffs why doesnt this thread get closed?

 

[KrisKitten]

jump on missbroody time or what? I think she is right........ffs why doesnt this thread get closed?

I think she has a point as well, but it doesnt need to be said.
Its rude and serves no useful purpose other than upsetting people.
I actually think other than a few idsagreements its quite a good thread, pretty interesting imo. People have learnt new things and come away with new they are used to have a go at individuals does a problem arise xxx

 

[hancake100]

jump on missbroody time or what? I think she is right........ffs why doesnt this thread get closed?

I think she has a point as well, but it doesnt need to be said.
Its rude and serves no useful purpose other than upsetting people.
I actually think other than a few idsagreements its quite a good thread, pretty interesting imo. People have learnt new things and come away with new they are used to have a go at individuals does a problem arise xxx

Just like you I feel what she said is rude and serves no useful purpose what so ever!!!!
Everyone is entiteled to their own opinion but that was very uncalled for and so off topic of what the thred is about!!!

 

[jadesh101]

Blimey gone a few hours haha... really not going to read on now, this thread is completely off topic!! toodles x

 

[Lara310809]

we nickname it neurotic-mother&bump.com

I think it was the nick name for the site that annoyed people. It's not that everyone here is neurotic, but that we want to make sure we're doing the best thing for our kids. I've asked silly questions that may seem obvious to other mums, but unless you've had the problem before, how are you to know what to do? I've learned that babies, although human too, need totally different care and different products. So of course it's best to ask, just in case what you would naturally do is going to cause a problem.

Wow , even the do you spank your kids thread didnt cause this many arguments

I don't know - that thread is still going strong. Watch this space ...

I daren't even venture into that one, because I knew it would be a minefield. I never thought an innocent "what bathing products" thread would turn into an argument

I don't like using the baby lotion on her as I use it to remove my waterproof mascara.

I'm pretty sure the only reason it removes waterproof makeup is because it contains oil, and not because o fany harsh ingredients. It would make sense, because it's the oil in the lotion that helps it moisturise babies' skin.

if its so great to use on a baby, why are you all of a sudden upset they use it on animals? Arent your babies more precious than animals and THATS whats perked up your ears

I never knew it was tested on animals, and after having heard that, I won't be buying it again. My baby is equally precious to an animal. Fair enough I love my baby more than any other baby, but every life is just as precious as another, isn't that right? I would rather they tested on willing humans than force a bunny to have shampoo shoved in it's eyes

And one last question; we were given loads of talc in a gift hamper when LO was born, but I have no idea how you're supposed to use it. Suggestions anyone?

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

Umm I've only waded through half this thread but I am an analytical chemist and a few things struck me about that report.

Firstly why have only half the products been tested for formaldehyde when they're making a huge hoo-hah about it? Surely for scientific unbias and completeness all products should have been treated the same? Which raises serious doubts for me about the motives/methods behind the report.

Secondly 200 parts per million stated for johnsons baby shampoo is very dilute, if you read the safety data sheets for most chemicals in their pure form it would scare the bejesus out of you and you would never go near them (just look up any household cleaner for instance). Thirdly there are products out there with much higher levels of chemicals in them than Johnsons.

Lastly our environment is full of natural and unnatural things that are either hazardous to health or cause cancer a certain amount of perspective is surely required when making an informed choice for our children. You will always get someone that reacts to something whether it be natural or man-made.

Thank you for that

I have always used johnsons and so did my mum. Aidan is fine. There is protecting your child and going over the top IMO
xx