June 2013 Babies

[Bubsta]

Oh Olivelove, I wish I had your dedication to not just eating junk food whenever. With my last pregnancy I gave up smoking the day I got my BFP (I know, stupid me for smoking at all in the first place... Damn nicotine addiction!), so I did really well to not take it back up after my miscarriage... (won't go back either!) but let's just say, giving up smoking, having morning sickness where eating was the only thing that made me feel better, then having a MC did not do wonders for my waistline! I've put on over a stone. Very depressing... Oh well, I'm trying to not go as feral this time with junk (my Thai chicken salad was delicious last night!).... DH brought home chilli lime cashews last night... Damn they are good! Lol

Thanks for posting Babybaba, I'm glad that your spotting is light brown and scant. It's really good that your Dr was happy for you to wait til next week to have your scan as that makes me very optimistic that he didnt see a need to bring it forward? It's good to know that he was nice, supportive and reassuring. Xx

I can relate Sarena and Mizzie, I've never had any extra tests done (like HCG or betas etc, all foreign to me too)... My normal Dr just gives the referral (doesn't really do anything, just writes the referral out), and the first thing that will happen is the 8wk scan. (some OBGYN it's 12wks)
I've heard baby aspirin and progesterone cream mentioned, but what is the go with that? Is that something the Dr must prescribe? Is it something I should look into?

Hey TwoRdue (every time I see your name my eyes read it as two rude! Lol) So they think you might be having twins? How do you feel about that? xx

Well I feel like I've written heaps. I hope you are all feeling happy and healthy! Xx

 

[Mizze]

Morning all - babybaba lovely to see you here sweetie - Im very pleased to hear that the spotting is both scant and brown. That seems like a very good sign to me.

Im very interested in the baby asprin and progesterone cream too - are there any potential side effects??

I did see a UK study recently about super fertility - the study suggested that possibly those of us who have recurrent miscarriages can be actually super fertile and accept all embryos whereas women with normal fertility (im paraphrasing madly here obviously!) just accept the more viable embryos so they dont miscarry - I think this relates to early MC's only- If it happens again (and im struggling with my PMA today) then I will be asking about this I think.

Anyway - no MS for 2 days now and no sign of it today -I KNOW syptoms come and go and I KNOW its really early but my head knows it - my Heart on hte other hand is struggling - bleugh!!!

Bubsta I went back to smoking after each of my MMC's (having given up before my first BFP) gave up the weekend after we concived Caitlyn and havent had one since.

I hope everyone is having a good positive day xxx

Mizze xx

 

[TwoRdue]

Bubsta - lol it does look like that. I am pretty freaked out about it as it means they will be mono di and at a higher risk of miscarriage, it feels like history repeating as that is how it was with my last twins. I miscarried so late and they could not find anything wrong with them or me and put it down as the type of pregnancy, at the same time I would be excited if all went smooth.

 

[Bubsta]

Morning all - babybaba lovely to see you here sweetie - Im very pleased to hear that the spotting is both scant and brown. That seems like a very good sign to me.

Im very interested in the baby asprin and progesterone cream too - are there any potential side effects??

Anyway - no MS for 2 days now and no sign of it today -I KNOW syptoms come and go and I KNOW its really early but my head knows it - my Heart on hte other hand is struggling - bleugh!!!

Bubsta I went back to smoking after each of my MMC's (having given up before my first BFP) gave up the weekend after we concived Caitlyn and havent had one since.

Oh sweetie, don't you hate it when you have those days where you think the worst... You know what advice you would give others and that MS does go up and down...but sometimes it's so hard to take the same advice when it's to yourself. I went through this earlier in the week, so I started to worry... Sure enough, the last two days MS has been back with vengeance. We should be considering ourselves lucky that we get to have a break from feeling crap... But do we? No, we go into stress mode. I'm sure everything is fine Hun. You'll see, it will come back.
Good girl for giving up smoking. It's a challenge isn't it!
Try and put a smile on your dial babe. Hugs coming to you. X

 

[Bubsta]

Bubsta - lol it does look like that. I am pretty freaked out about it as it means they will be mono di and at a higher risk of miscarriage, it feels like history repeating as that is how it was with my last twins. I miscarried so late and they could not find anything wrong with them or me and put it down as the type of pregnancy, at the same time I would be excited if all went smooth.

I thought it would have to be a massive reminder for you. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with mono di and why that means it's a higher risk? What does that mean moving forward with you if you do have twins? It sucks that you have to wait three weeks til you find out! Exciting times! Xxx

 

[nicola ttc]

Morning ladies (or evening or night wherever in the world you are)

TwoRdue - i can see that would be really worrying but i guess all you can do is wait and see and hope for a happy outcome!

We lost Emily from a pneumothorax (popped lung) due to extreme prematurity. She was so early because of where the placenta attached which could happen again... My dr said even if it does, this is a different baby, a different pregnancy and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the outcome would be the same! Wanted to tell you that because i think it applies to all of us! This is a new day, a new baby and we all need to try to stay positive - for ourselves and each other!!

For the ladies that were wondering about progesterone and aspirin - the theories are...

Aspirin - (baby aspirin=half tablet a day or low dose aspirin) Aspirin thins the blood. There have been lots of studies that show when rcmc's happen and there is no 'reason', later pregnancies have been succesful taking this. It's to do with blood clotting too much in the cord/placenta as it's developing and cutting off nutrients to the baby. There hasn't been shown to be any risk in taking this so some people think 'why not??'

Progesterone - When you ovulate, the oestrogen in your body drops and progesterone starts rising because it tells the uterus to thicken and accept an embryo. The progesterone in pregnancy should increase during pregnancy because it helps blood flow around the womb - especially until week 8 when the placenta takes over production of progesterone. Before that it's the ovaries job. Again, there hasn't been shown to be a risk of using progesterone so, why not?

Neither are routinely prescribed for pregnant women in the uk (don't know about anywhere else) unless there has been a history of rpmc and no known cause. I think it's a kind of 'well, nothing else has showed up as the cause so lets give this a go' kind of practice here. I'm not sure if you can buy cyclogest (progesterone) in our chemists or not.

Hope that helps!!

Mizze - i was thinking about trying progesterone too. It can also reduce the risk of pre term labour (my last 4 were born at 35, 34, 32 then 25 weeks) but they started giving it to me at 20 weeks which i think was too late. Going to research buying it here now....

Raelynn and Olivelove - i'm with you on the wanting to eat rubbish!!
All i've wanted this last week is chicken doner kebab...have made a variety of different chicken styles with rice, salad or pitta bread but none have hit the spot yet.. (and i think oh and kids are getting a bit sick of chicken now)

Sorry for the whole essay! Hope everyone is well.

I am actually salivating at the thought of chicken kebab now....mmmmmm

 

[Mizze]

Oh sweetie, don't you hate it when you have those days where you think the worst... You know what advice you would give others and that MS does go up and down...but sometimes it's so hard to take the same advice when it's to yourself. I went through this earlier in the week, so I started to worry... Sure enough, the last two days MS has been back with vengeance. We should be considering ourselves lucky that we get to have a break from feeling crap... But do we? No, we go into stress mode. I'm sure everything is fine Hun. You'll see, it will come back.
Good girl for giving up smoking. It's a challenge isn't it!
Try and put a smile on your dial babe. Hugs coming to you. X

Thank you that made me feel a lot better! I love "put a smile on your dial!"

Funnily enough I found giving up when I knew I was pregnant to be easy - for 10 years id been trying to quit the evil weed but never lasted long but as soon as I knew I was pregnant it was as though a switch flicked in my brain and my body said "right thats it you cant now" - Which is great for me but not much help to anyone else! Am 2 1/2 years smoke free now!

Morning ladies (or evening or night wherever in the world you are)

TwoRdue - i can see that would be really worrying but i guess all you can do is wait and see and hope for a happy outcome!

We lost Emily from a pneumothorax (popped lung) due to extreme prematurity. She was so early because of where the placenta attached which could happen again... My dr said even if it does, this is a different baby, a different pregnancy and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the outcome would be the same! Wanted to tell you that because i think it applies to all of us! This is a new day, a new baby and we all need to try to stay positive - for ourselves and each other!!

For the ladies that were wondering about progesterone and aspirin - the theories are...

Aspirin - (baby aspirin=half tablet a day or low dose aspirin) Aspirin thins the blood. There have been lots of studies that show when rcmc's happen and there is no 'reason', later pregnancies have been succesful taking this. It's to do with blood clotting too much in the cord/placenta as it's developing and cutting off nutrients to the baby. There hasn't been shown to be any risk in taking this so some people think 'why not??'

Progesterone - When you ovulate, the oestrogen in your body drops and progesterone starts rising because it tells the uterus to thicken and accept an embryo. The progesterone in pregnancy should increase during pregnancy because it helps blood flow around the womb - especially until week 8 when the placenta takes over production of progesterone. Before that it's the ovaries job. Again, there hasn't been shown to be a risk of using progesterone so, why not?

Neither are routinely prescribed for pregnant women in the uk (don't know about anywhere else) unless there has been a history of rpmc and no known cause. I think it's a kind of 'well, nothing else has showed up as the cause so lets give this a go' kind of practice here. I'm not sure if you can buy cyclogest (progesterone) in our chemists or not.

Hope that helps!!

Mizze - i was thinking about trying progesterone too. It can also reduce the risk of pre term labour (my last 4 were born at 35, 34, 32 then 25 weeks) but they started giving it to me at 20 weeks which i think was too late. Going to research buying it here now....

Wise words hun - thank you, especially since it cant be easy to explain to a new group again what happened with Emily.

Interesting on the asparin and I wonder if we can get the progesterone cream here. I think I will be buying baby asprin at the weekend then at the very least.

Caitlyn was born out the sun roof at 42+3 because she wasnt responding to the 4 (YEP 4) lots of induction drugs I had so prem labour wasnt in my thinking so much!

TwoRdue (and yes I kept seeing it as Tworude too) it must be very hard to have that extra worry

sticky dust to us all xx

Mizze x

 

[TwoRdue]

Thanks all,

Bubsta - Mono di is where they share the same placenta and are at a high risk of cord compression and stopping air and food supply to each other or twin to twin transfer. If it is twins or a singleton then I will be through the hospital system as they are classing this as a high risk pregnancy due to the late miscarriage. Camt wait till my first scan though

Mizze - I am so sorry for your loss, it is never easy and all the best with a H&H pregnancy.

 

[Sarena]

Mizze-just read the super fertile articles online, and wondering is this me? Thanks for sharing, its really interesting and seems to maybe fit bill-conceived 4 times since july last year....

To add to what has already been said about progesterone and aspirin, I see it as a why not, they are not known to cause any harm(except to your wallet for progesterone!) and there are mixed results about success, but for me at this stage, its better than nothing. Alas, there are no guarantees.
Bubsta-I got prescribed progesterone and aspirin by specialist, probably worth running it by them anyway.

Olivelove-I am totally with you about the balanced diet-love fruit and veg and wholegrains, hoping it all balances out!

With regard to worries about subsiding MS, doc said the only thing i should look out of is BB no longer sore/tender. About 5 times a day i press them gently, as a test to be sure! If anyone saw me! they feel about a size bigger already!!

 

[Bubsta]

Thanks for explaining the baby Asprin and progesterone Nicola. If I am unsuccessful this time around, I will be talking to my OBGYN further about this.
I can completely relate Mizzie, I felt so guilty every time I had a ciggie with having my 4yo daughter, and my MIL died of cancer (non smoking related) 3years ago... So I was so disappointed in myself for not being able to give up.... Yet soon as I found out I was pregnant, a switch went off and that was it. In the whole scheme of things, gave up easily. Ah the mental games...
Thanks for explaining twoRdue. Now i understand better. Nicola said it perfectly, this is a whole new pregnancy and new baby/babies. It sounds as though they will monitor more due to your previous history, so that can only be a good thing.

Great Sarena, something else for me to worry about, lol. I'm sure I'll be prodding my BBs even more now, lol. (they are no where near as sore as they were a week ago... But they aren't any smaller).

Have a great day/night gals! Xx

 

[raelynn]

Bubsta - I've been doing the same thing, keep checking my boobs. They aren't super sore, just mildly when I push on them. Now I'm worrying!

I also had a bout of some pretty strong AF-like cramps tonight and it had me worrying too!

 

[TwoRdue]

How many week was anyone when breast tenderness started? I am just over four weeks and not really feeling tender at the moment

 

[Bubsta]

Well Raelynn and TwoRdue, hopefully that means we might have just disproved that theory? (or all three of us are in trouble, lol) I honestly think evyone is different. My first pregnancy (which I MC'd) my BBs were crazy sore... With my DD I think my BBs were sore in the beginning and then settled down and just grew.... Last pregnancy (MC) they started off a little sore but settled down. This time... They were my first pregnancy symptom. They were crazy sore like the very first time I was pregnant. Now everyday the soreness is settling... Just still bigger than usual. there are plenty of stories where women get no symptoms at all, so I think if you haven't got sore BBs yet, or they are not as sore, I would try not to worry about it.
Have yor AF cramps settled down Raelynn?? Xx

 

[raelynn]

With my MC my boobs were sore right away and I miscarried at 5 weeks so they obviously weren't a good sign for me then. I don't generally tend to get much soreness, even with AF and they aren't very sensitive on normal days so I just think it is something that I won't get too bad. This time, they felt completely normal up until a couple days ago and now just mildly sensitive. Who knows

My cramping did stop. It was just for a minute or two but felt just like it does when AF is about to start, kind of intense cramping right before the flow. I haven't had anything since then so I'm hoping it was just stretching pains. It was just a bit disconcerting because they were more intense then all the little minor twinges I've had so far.

 

[Bubsta]

My cramping did stop. It was just for a minute or two but felt just like it does when AF is about to start, kind of intense cramping right before the flow. I haven't had anything since then so I'm hoping it was just stretching pains. It was just a bit disconcerting because they were more intense then all the little minor twinges I've had so far.

That's a relief Hun, I think it probably was just stretching pain. It does kinda freak you out a bit when those sort of pains happen. A had a couple of stabbing pains a couple of days ago that made me stop mid stride. Then they went away. I think the bubbas are just trying to keep us on our toes! The cheeky little monkeys stressing us out.

 

[Mizze]

Ah yes the pains!! Freak you out don't they. I had a sharp stabbing pain a few days ago on the left side of my groin but I remember this and it's the stretching pains as everything loosens. I think the cramping pains are different BUT it's also a sign of early pregnancy. I have friends who are 90% through their pregnancies and they got loads of cramps early on (they haven't had losses) and when they saw my bfp they were wishing me lots of cramps!

My boobs aren't sore. But they are occasionally tingly. But I remember from Caitlyn that they were never really sore then either. I remember frantically checking them and getting upset because they weren't sore!


Mizze x

 

[Babybaba]

Hey everyone,

I'm just chuckling to myself as we are all so alike!
Ive a picture of us all prodding our boobs willing them to hurt!! Hehe
I'm sure symptoms will kick in soon, it always baffles me when some women talk about getting ms and loads of symptoms before they've even got a bfp!!!

I feel a bit "hungover" today? My boobs are not sore at al, maybe seem a little fuller?!
Gosh it's just so hard to tell in these early days!

Wish I could fast forward us all to the delivery suite!! Hehehe! Now wouldn't that be amazing!!

Nicola thanks for putting up the info about aspirin and prog! Ive been taking the low dose aspirin for 4 days now! Hoping it helps! Sure I've nothing to loose by giving it a go!! Only alot to gain if we have a healthy baby!!! *fingers crossed*!!!

Has anyone had an hcg beta yet?

I had one yesterday at 19dpo, results came back at 1001.
I'm going for another draw tomorrow, hoping the number double!
Then I have a scan on Thursday at 8.45AM.
They are being really great this time because of my history, they said if all goes ok they will scan me once a week (for reassurance) until I get to 14 weeks....
Just really hoping and praying that things do go ok!!

It's just such an emotional roller coaster! But we are on this ride together ladies!!!
Let's do this!!!

Sending many positive thoughts to you all!!
Xoxoxo

 

[Babybaba]

Oh forgot to mention, because the hcg came back at 1001, it made me instantly think of 101 Dalmatians, so I am going to nickname this little bean Dotty!! Come on Dotty grow baby grow!!
Hehe
Xox

 

[TwoRdue]

Wouldn't that be great to all be delievring at the same time. I wish my boobs would hurt as it may make me feel pregnant, I just want to feel it.

My beta w as 350 at 15dpo and next blood's are Monday at 19dpo, can't wait.

You must be so excited for your first scan. Yay

 

[Babybaba]

Twordue, yes I would Lovee to have sore boobs raging ms and every pregnancy symptom going!!!

All I've got is the horrible ones- light brown spotting every so often and mild cramps!!

Looking forward to the scan BUT absolutely terrified at the same time!!! I've been warned that all I'll probably see is the sac at that point, just want to see something!!
But Thursday's will be my scan day, will hopefully be my fave days! Ohhhh please please let everything go ok! ( sorry nervous wreck here lol)

Not long to go until your next bloods Hun! Will u be getting an early scan?

Xxx