Kate McCann releasing a book...

[AppleBlossom]

my brother's a freemason ...

they're not THAT bad, it's not a huge
secretive club or anything and i don't think if my brother
did commit a crime they'd cover it up for him
they may have some powerful members but i
wouldn't go around accusing the freemasons
of hiding things especially if you don't know about
the things they actually do and the money they
raise for events and charities ...

just saying ​

Oh I know the Freemason's aren't bad and they don't just go around killing people and covering it up or anything. I just meant, there will be very powerful member amongst them who, if something needed doing, could do it without being questioned. Obviously only a very select few.

 

[TweetiePie]

I just heard the audio of Gerry whispering "Don't talk" to Kate at the first appeal :/

Why not talk if you've got nothing to hide?

Before I read this thread, I wasn't sure what to think. But I watched that documentary that was posted earlier and that made me VERY suspicious. However, there were also things in that video, which to me didn't add up.
Some have been explained in the rest of this thread though.

I think they have something to do with this.
I feel so sorry for Madeleine.
The story makes me feel sick, it's so awful.

 

[AppleBlossom]

I'm reading some theories at the minute. Some are truly disturbing and I hope to god that there is no truth in them

 

[chel27]

I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

well no they are not being punished enough as i believe you are putting your child in danger no matter what when you choose to leave them alone, especially at such a young age. how can anyone condone this???

ermmm and i disagree no mother/father in their right mind would leave their child on their own in a FOREIGN country where they are bearly in sight...would you?

its common sense that you are putting your child at risk if your going to leave them alone DUH!!!!

so in that case its ok for me to pop to my neighbours for few hours and leave my kids in bed? but its ok because i can just see their window from where im sitting???????? ermmmm no this would be neglectful wouldnt it?

I'm not 'condoning' what they did, they obviously made a bad choice that they are paying for now.

No, it wouldn't be alright to leave your children at home while you went to a neighbours house, that would be a bad choice, but if you did that, and something happened to the child, I would still have sympathy for you as a Mum who had lost a child.

its not a bad choice!!! WOW its a planned neglectful occasion that NO mother/father in their right mind would do!!!
if they haddnt of left maddy she would still be here FACT!!!

how do you know they are paying for it? I feel they done it and the whole thing is a plan/ set up going by all the known evidence, yet theres none to say she was abducted so why would you think this?

thats crazy im sorry but I cant feel compassion for someone who has left their child unattended on several nights.

the only one i feel sorry for is poor maddy x happy 8th birthday where ever you are xxx

 

[sophxx]

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[AppleBlossom]

I just heard the audio of Gerry whispering "Don't talk" to Kate at the first appeal :/

Isn't Gerry McCann just a delight. Between that comment and comparing the loss of his daughter to "the feeling you get when you realise you've gone overdrawn on your student loan" paint a picture of a perfect family figure. Not.

OMG did he actually say that!!!!! (havent read the whole thread its too bloody long)

i'm gobsmacked!!!!!!!!!!!

where did you find these can you post links ?

Yep, give me a minute to find them

 

[AppleBlossom]

This is the audio clip:

https://truthformadeleine.com/2011/...in-mccann-appeal-on-may-7-2007/#comment-20263

This is the student loan comment made by Gerry. Fact 40:

https://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/the-madeleine-foundations-50-facts-leaflet/

 

[purpledahlia]

You know what, I think she died the day before...

 

[Samemka]

I just heard the audio of Gerry whispering "Don't talk" to Kate at the first appeal :/

Where's this hun? (Ignore this just seen the posts above lol)

I know there's a slowed down version of the first appeal on youtube & at the very start Kate deviates slightly from the script & Gerry looks proper p'eed off! When she says 'to the person who is...or was...with Madeleine' - can't seem to find it now but can look later if anyone wants.

This too, around 0:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnHeGlyd7Og

And finally this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHgEkd9uFw&feature=related

(Prob nothing in this at all but a bit strange)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix6bKUnmOCM&feature=related

And as a Dr you didn't then think to act if you thought they'd been sedated?! Ugh!

Only found out earlier before becoming a GP Kate's specialism was anaesthiology....just saying! :/

 

[TweetiePie]

This is the audio clip:

https://truthformadeleine.com/2011/...in-mccann-appeal-on-may-7-2007/#comment-20263

This is the student loan comment made by Gerry. Fact 40:

https://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/the-madeleine-foundations-50-facts-leaflet/

Looks like a good link!
Will need to read through it properly when LO is in bed

 

[TweetiePie]

You know what, I think she died the day before...

I was thinking about this.

Did anyone confirm that Maddie WAS at the creche that day?
Did a member of staff see her?

There was a handwriting story which was interesting, posted as part of a link a few pages ago

 

[haze]

This is interesting:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pper-drugged-twins-night-Madeleine-taken.html

There's one bit that stood out

Asked if the twins had been drugged, she said on BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour today: 'On the night I just remember the twins lying in the cot and not moving - with lights going on and people moving around.

'There was a lot of noise and they just didn't move and I remember several times checking for chest movements. I did feel it was a bit strange that they were not moving let alone waking up.

'I did consider with Madeleine perhaps she had been given something too.

Do you think they're thinking if her body was found they have to put the idea of being drugged in people's head because if they had accidently given her an overdose then there would be signs of that wouldn't there? Just a random thought that popped into my head when I read that bit.

 

[AppleBlossom]

And just to add, those 50 facts ARE facts, not some conspiracy made up by some random person on the internet

 

[purpledahlia]

https://fakedabduction.com/2011/05/kates-handwriting-at-ocean-club-creche-looks-like-a-forgery/ thats the handwriting story

 

[AppleBlossom]

I read the handwriting thing earlier. It doesn't make any sense really. If Maddie hadn't been at the creche that day wouldn't one of the workers have noticed? And why would they bother to sign her in and out?

 

[Samemka]

I'm reading some theories at the minute. Some are truly disturbing and I hope to god that there is no truth in them

Do you mind saying where? Not cos I'm morbid, but I really feel I'm so caught up in this at the moment I just can't stop thinking about it! Playing on my mind constantly.

 

[Samemka]

This is interesting:-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...pper-drugged-twins-night-Madeleine-taken.html

There's one bit that stood out

Asked if the twins had been drugged, she said on BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour today: 'On the night I just remember the twins lying in the cot and not moving - with lights going on and people moving around.

'There was a lot of noise and they just didn't move and I remember several times checking for chest movements. I did feel it was a bit strange that they were not moving let alone waking up.

'I did consider with Madeleine perhaps she had been given something too.

Do you think they're thinking if her body was found they have to put the idea of being drugged in people's head because if they had accidently given her an overdose then there would be signs of that wouldn't there? Just a random thought that popped into my head when I read that bit.

Yes, definitely.

So as a DOCTOR she was that worried she had to check their breathing...YET they failed to have ANY tests done on the twins?!

NO NO NO!

 

[TweetiePie]

I read the handwriting thing earlier. It doesn't make any sense really. If Maddie hadn't been at the creche that day wouldn't one of the workers have noticed? And why would they bother to sign her in and out?

Alibi/Cover up

 

[jenny_wren]

my brother's a freemason ...

they're not THAT bad, it's not a huge
secretive club or anything and i don't think if my brother
did commit a crime they'd cover it up for him
they may have some powerful members but i
wouldn't go around accusing the freemasons
of hiding things especially if you don't know about
the things they actually do and the money they
raise for events and charities ...

just saying ​

Oh I know the Freemason's aren't bad and they don't just go around killing people and covering it up or anything. I just meant, there will be very powerful member amongst them who, if something needed doing, could do it without being questioned. Obviously only a very select few.

lol it's alright just didn't want someone to think badly
of them seeing as they actually do good things ​

 

[purpledahlia]

The same report exposes other contradictions in the English’s depositions. Kate and Gerry say that they picked up their children from the crèche at 5.30 p.m., but while the former guarantees that they went for a half-hour run on the beach and only then returned to the apartment, her husband states that they went to play tennis during that period.
After that, at around 8 p.m., one of the elements of the group reportedly went to the apartment that had been rented by the couple. Kate says that he was there only for 30 seconds and then left. Gerry speaks about half an hour. The policeman remembers that the time difference is what is needed between asking whether everything is well, or advancing in case a crime has to be concealed.
Another situation that the authorities found strange was the fact that Kate, upon realizing that Maddie had disappeared, remained inside the apartment for ten minutes. Only then did she ask for help, leaving the twins asleep in their cots while she returned to the restaurant. The policeman who wrote the report asks how it is possible that a mother facilitates the safety of her other children when it is certain that by that time she was already screaming that her daughter had been abducted.

quote from https://truthformadeleine.com/2008/07/payne-suspected-of-paedophilia/