Greetings to Paula, any new members whose names escape me right now and to all the ladies that are doing a Soy Cycle again....This is the formula that worked for me - I know that most on this board have only taken the Soy, but i mixed mine up this past cycle - first cycle of true TTC since I missed the egg in July. (Come to think iof it, that was an omen cause I took the wrong doses of Soy - dumb ass can't read a label in my old age!
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So August 2 was my last CD1 and I took the correct doses of Soy on CD2-6. I also took all other supplements below exactly as stated. I O'd early on CD10 and am now 4w5d. Too early to see if it's twins, but considering that this was the first month trying and I am pg - this may just work well......keeping in mind ladies that I am not annovulatory, I was going for twins. Since I O on my own, I was hoping for two eggs, but for those of you with PCOS or any type of annovulatory situation, this combo may do the trick.....
After extensive reading and researching as much as i could, here is my list of supplements and it is important to mention that
if you are breastfeeding, you should not take Tribulus.
- Soy Isoflavones: taken CD2-6 (see below for dose)
- Red clover (weak phyto estrogen, present in my Soy pills): taken CD2-6
- Licorice Root: 900mg CD1-7
- Tribulus: 1,000mg taken CD6-10 (would have taken it CD6-11, but i O'd on CD10 so I stopped.)
- Evening Primrose Oil: 3,000mg taken CD5-12
- Royal Jelly: 1,000mg everyday beginning CD3 (that is the day i bought it)
- Folic Acid: 2400mcg EVERYDAY since June
- 3 cups of non-fat milk each day since June
- 1-3 yogurts each day since June (we decided in June to TTC)
*For the dairy products, they are NOT hormone free & organic - twinning has been linked to the hormones in dairy. https://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/health/30twin.html That link will get you to the article by reknowned OB Dr. Steinman of Long Island Jewish Hospital - the man may be on to something...
** I am also taking 4 adult gummy vitamins (double dose) so I am getting an additional 800mcg of Folic Acid, meaning 3,200mcg per day without fail.**
My Soy Iso came in 10mg pills and 40mg pills. The 40mg pills also have 140mg of Red Clover in them as well. I took them as follows:
CD2: Soy = 180mg; (Red Clover 560mg present in pills)
CD3: Soy = 180mg; (Red Clover 560mg present in pills)
CD4: Soy = 200mg; (Red Clover 700mg present...)
CD5: Soy = 200mg; (Red Clover 700mg...)
CD6: Soy = 240mg; (Red Clover 840mg...)
CD6 overlapped with both Soy and Tribulus. I took the Tribulus in the mornings and Soy at night to avoid headaches. The Tribulus came in 1,000mg pills, but the normal dose is 750mg. Here is the link to the Tribulus article. The women's info is down towards the bottom of the article.
https://www.life-enhancement.com/arti...ate.asp?ID=479
Other fertility supplements you may be wondering about:
Yams are controversial so I did not take them. The Nigerian/Ugandan yam root (Cassava Root) is the yam pill that you want in order to increase fertility. I could not find it in my natural food store or anywhere else in Denver and I will not buy pills off the internet. Mexican Yam root (Dioscorea villosa) is in the stores & easily available BUT this is not a phytoestrogen and instead rasies progesterone, therefore it may stop ovulation and has been used as birth control for centuries. Now you can take it (Mexican Yam Root) after implantation to increase progesterone, but I am a firm believer that if for some reason my body is rejecting a pregnancy because something is wrong, I do not want to mess with nature and try to hold it, so I opted out of taking it.
Vitex - another supplement that is supposed to be great for female hormone balance - DO NOT MIX THIS WITH SOY OR CLOMID as they cancel each other out.
Don Quoi - another great herb for balance, but not so great for twinning b/c it regulates hormones from going too high and what you need for twins is high estrogen to grow the eggs, high FSH to grow the eggs and high LH to get hopefully two eggs released.
Also remember that double ovulation must occur within a 24-hr period and before the temp spike. Any increase of 0.4*F or more indicates that the progesterone has kicked in and will cease all other eggs from releasing. This is where the Tribulus helps - it surges the LH better to get the egg or eggs released and help prevent ovarian cysts.
There are mulitple herbs that can increase estrogen (it is found in many foods) there are no herbs or supplements that can naturally increase FSH and LH except Tribulus. Tribulus must be taken by women in limited durations for six days immediately following Soy. (So if you took Soy CD2-6, You begin Tribulus on CD6 and if you took Soy CD5-9, you begin on CD9, etc.)
I will stress that I am not a doctor and this is my own "hocus pocus" formulation. It definitely worked to help get me BFP fast, but it is yet to be seen if it worked for twins for me. Only because these are all food supplements, I was okay with trying the combo for up to four cycles - well I don't need to - I BFP'd in cycle 1 and HPT showed so at 10dpo which was nice and early. Now we are just praying for healthy - regardles of 1 baby or multiples - healthy is first priority!
I have my 1st OB appt 9/13 & a scan is the norm at the first visit for my doc. I will keep you all posted!