parents who dont vaccinate your babies??

I agree it does help immune systems but it is not going to stop a baby from getting a seri use illness I totally no breastfeeding has so many benefits but i would rely on just breastfeeding to protect my child

It probably used to be very effective when we lived in small communitys but no i agree now we are living much wider lives with so much contact breastfeeding will only have a minimal level of protection
 
Driving your child over to the clinic in your car puts them at a higher risk of something happening to them than giving them vaccines that could potentially save their lives...
If we stop fascinating, diseases will come back, children will die, if its preventable then lets prevent it.
Vaccines haven't been proven to do anything except prevent disease.
Ok theres a chance that your child could have a negative reaction, or it be linked to something else, we just don't know but what I do know is the risk of my child getting a disease and dying far outweighs the risk of him having a severely bad reaction to a shot.
Nobody thinks twice about putting their child in a car and driving them around, when the reality is it is much more risky than giving them a shot.
 
Call me dumb or whatever but I vaccinate because it's "just whats normal" around here. I go to the doctor, they ask if I wanna get her shots, I say yes and thats that. I haven't studied vaccines at all, I have no idea what's in them. I just know, my siblings and I got them, and that babies get them...
I guess in my case ignorance is bliss when it comes to them.
It is interesting to read why people don't though. =) I didn't know peoplw didn't..
 
I am choosing to keep my LO vaccine free for a number of reasons.

(1) Vaccines include a lot more than just the "virus" they are trying to prevent. Vaccines need to have a lot of other additives in them to be injectable into the body. Primarily, the biggest turn offs are mercury (thimerasol), aluminum, formaldehyde, biological ingredients such as aborted fetal cells, chick embryo cells, aborted calf cells, oil-based adjuvants, peanut oils, preservatives, and more (and worse).

Each vaccine contains most, if not all, of those ingredients (plus more I didn't list). Keep in mind that the average child will be injected with 36 vaccines before the age of 3. Each time you give your child a vaccine, you inject more mercury, more aluminum, more formaldehyde, more chemicals, more aborted cells, etc, into your LO's bloodstream.

The human body is not made to expel these ingredients easily. Mercury and aluminum can build up in the body, causing a lot of health issues and a lot of side effects. For example, the peanut oils in the vaccines cannot be easily broken down by the body. Thus, the body develops an intolerance to them and - ding ding - you get peanut allergies (ever wonder why the sudden increase in peanut allergies???)

Vaccine ingredients are absolutely terrifying. You can read more in depth about these ingredients here:
https://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/what-is-coming-through-that-needle/

(2) My second reason for not vaccinating my child is that the childhood illnesses they are attempting to prevent are NOT commonplace anymore. And it was not vaccinations that made these illnesses decrease to the extent they have - it was the improvement of living conditions - running water, waste management systems, better healthcare, increased hygiene, etc. If you had any idea the squalor people lived in back when these illnesses were rampant, the living conditions of today are 100x better. We don't go poop in a bucket in our house and then toss the bucket onto the muddy street, where it runs down a makeshift sewer and infects the local butcher's shop....Medical care for illnesses was very primitive - they didn't understand coughing on people spread illness, or what germs were.

(3) Even if my child contracted an illness, chances are it would run its course as "childhood illnesses" do, and if she ended up getting more sick than usual, medical technology of today can cure it up pretty darn well.

(4) I believe in evolution, I believe in nature, I believe that, for the human species to have survived as well as it has, our immune systems must be pretty tough. ESPECIALLY to make it through hundreds of thousands of years of dismal living conditions, and dismal medical treatments. Obviously our bodies can handle a sickness here or there.

I believe that breastfeeding and giving my child a natural antibodies to fight sickness is nature's intention. I believe that my child can be exposed to certain germs and her body will develop its own antibodies, and thus she will have a natural immunity rather than an artificial one.

(5) Vaccines don't necessarily protect your child from the intended illness. The whooping cough vaccine is notoriously known for being very ineffective. As a child, I was vaccinated for whooping cough and guess what - I still got it, in grade 3. I was MISERABLY sick for weeks, but with the proper treatment (humidifiers, puffers, etc), I was fine. And not just in the child's case, but ANY vaccine has the potential to be ineffective (ie: the flu vaccine "attempts" to predict which strain of flu could be the bad one for the year...most of the time, you inject yourself with the vaccine for the WRONG strain.) I would rather be sniffly and sneezy for 10 days than inject myself with such chemicals and nonsense.

In conclusion, there is NO way to know what the accumulation of all these vaccines will do to a person. 36 injections before the age of 3? Injecting things into your baby's body that were NEVER meant to be in a human's body is just a deplorable thought to me. I don't know how anyone could honestly justify vaccinating, especially after doing the research.

I find that many people shun those who choose not to vaccinate. But the difference, is that those of us who do not vaccinate have DONE OUR RESEARCH. We have not blindly accepted that "doctor knows best" when doctor is paid by pharmaceutical companies to sell, sell, sell. It is not about protecting health anymore, it is about making money. I find that, those who do vaccinate, have done so without an hour's worth of study. They do not investigate deeper, go around what one doctor suggests, and truly do the research and find out what these vaccines are doing to this world.

And when those parents who vaccinated because of fear DO do their research, they quickly become defensive about their decision to vaccinate because they feel cognitive dissonance between their decision and the evidence. That creates a hostile person, because they have done something that contradicts what the evidence truly says.

For all of these reasons, and then some, I choose not to vaccinate. I could never justify doing that to my child, especially after knowing what those vaccines contain, and the VERY high unlikelihood my child will contract anything in this day and age. And if she does catch something? No big deal. Maybe she'll be sick, but her body will fight it and she will be all the stronger for it.

Parents who do not vaccinate are often attacked by parents who do vaccinate. Why is it any of your concern? Why would you be worried? If your child is "VACCINATED" then you should have no problem with those who don't vaccinate. After all, your child won't 'get sick', right? So you are SO concerned for the health of my child? That you are willing to tell me I'm a bad parent for not vaccinating? I'm not sorry to say it, but I feel if you vaccinate without having done research, you fit the category of bad parent. In this day and age, it is essential to research. It is essential to go around the big pharmaceutical companies and the highly paid doctors and go behind the front lines, to discover for yourself what is going on. Watch documentaries, read the clinical experiments, open some books and do some research. This is your child's life, after all.

Thank you for taking the time to write and explain...I totally agree with what you have written :thumbup:
 
I am choosing to keep my LO vaccine free for a number of reasons.

(1) Vaccines include a lot more than just the "virus" they are trying to prevent. Vaccines need to have a lot of other additives in them to be injectable into the body. Primarily, the biggest turn offs are mercury (thimerasol), aluminum, formaldehyde, biological ingredients such as aborted fetal cells, chick embryo cells, aborted calf cells, oil-based adjuvants, peanut oils, preservatives, and more (and worse).

Each vaccine contains most, if not all, of those ingredients (plus more I didn't list). Keep in mind that the average child will be injected with 36 vaccines before the age of 3. Each time you give your child a vaccine, you inject more mercury, more aluminum, more formaldehyde, more chemicals, more aborted cells, etc, into your LO's bloodstream.

The human body is not made to expel these ingredients easily. Mercury and aluminum can build up in the body, causing a lot of health issues and a lot of side effects. For example, the peanut oils in the vaccines cannot be easily broken down by the body. Thus, the body develops an intolerance to them and - ding ding - you get peanut allergies (ever wonder why the sudden increase in peanut allergies???)

Vaccine ingredients are absolutely terrifying. You can read more in depth about these ingredients here:
https://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/what-is-coming-through-that-needle/

(2) My second reason for not vaccinating my child is that the childhood illnesses they are attempting to prevent are NOT commonplace anymore. And it was not vaccinations that made these illnesses decrease to the extent they have - it was the improvement of living conditions - running water, waste management systems, better healthcare, increased hygiene, etc. If you had any idea the squalor people lived in back when these illnesses were rampant, the living conditions of today are 100x better. We don't go poop in a bucket in our house and then toss the bucket onto the muddy street, where it runs down a makeshift sewer and infects the local butcher's shop....Medical care for illnesses was very primitive - they didn't understand coughing on people spread illness, or what germs were.

(3) Even if my child contracted an illness, chances are it would run its course as "childhood illnesses" do, and if she ended up getting more sick than usual, medical technology of today can cure it up pretty darn well.

(4) I believe in evolution, I believe in nature, I believe that, for the human species to have survived as well as it has, our immune systems must be pretty tough. ESPECIALLY to make it through hundreds of thousands of years of dismal living conditions, and dismal medical treatments. Obviously our bodies can handle a sickness here or there.

I believe that breastfeeding and giving my child a natural antibodies to fight sickness is nature's intention. I believe that my child can be exposed to certain germs and her body will develop its own antibodies, and thus she will have a natural immunity rather than an artificial one.

(5) Vaccines don't necessarily protect your child from the intended illness. The whooping cough vaccine is notoriously known for being very ineffective. As a child, I was vaccinated for whooping cough and guess what - I still got it, in grade 3. I was MISERABLY sick for weeks, but with the proper treatment (humidifiers, puffers, etc), I was fine. And not just in the child's case, but ANY vaccine has the potential to be ineffective (ie: the flu vaccine "attempts" to predict which strain of flu could be the bad one for the year...most of the time, you inject yourself with the vaccine for the WRONG strain.) I would rather be sniffly and sneezy for 10 days than inject myself with such chemicals and nonsense.

In conclusion, there is NO way to know what the accumulation of all these vaccines will do to a person. 36 injections before the age of 3? Injecting things into your baby's body that were NEVER meant to be in a human's body is just a deplorable thought to me. I don't know how anyone could honestly justify vaccinating, especially after doing the research.

I find that many people shun those who choose not to vaccinate. But the difference, is that those of us who do not vaccinate have DONE OUR RESEARCH. We have not blindly accepted that "doctor knows best" when doctor is paid by pharmaceutical companies to sell, sell, sell. It is not about protecting health anymore, it is about making money. I find that, those who do vaccinate, have done so without an hour's worth of study. They do not investigate deeper, go around what one doctor suggests, and truly do the research and find out what these vaccines are doing to this world.

And when those parents who vaccinated because of fear DO do their research, they quickly become defensive about their decision to vaccinate because they feel cognitive dissonance between their decision and the evidence. That creates a hostile person, because they have done something that contradicts what the evidence truly says.

For all of these reasons, and then some, I choose not to vaccinate. I could never justify doing that to my child, especially after knowing what those vaccines contain, and the VERY high unlikelihood my child will contract anything in this day and age. And if she does catch something? No big deal. Maybe she'll be sick, but her body will fight it and she will be all the stronger for it.

Parents who do not vaccinate are often attacked by parents who do vaccinate. Why is it any of your concern? Why would you be worried? If your child is "VACCINATED" then you should have no problem with those who don't vaccinate. After all, your child won't 'get sick', right? So you are SO concerned for the health of my child? That you are willing to tell me I'm a bad parent for not vaccinating? I'm not sorry to say it, but I feel if you vaccinate without having done research, you fit the category of bad parent. In this day and age, it is essential to research. It is essential to go around the big pharmaceutical companies and the highly paid doctors and go behind the front lines, to discover for yourself what is going on. Watch documentaries, read the clinical experiments, open some books and do some research. This is your child's life, after all.

Thank you for taking the time to write and explain...I totally agree with what you have written :thumbup:

Although I would not consider myself a bad parent, what you have said is interesting and actually making me think twice. I have done some research, asked parents, doctors etc. but now I'm not so sure anymore.
Thank you for your post.
 
To the parents that don't vaccinate their babies/children, what do you say when people ask 'well your child could infect mine because he/she isn't vaccinated yet?' (If their child wasn't vaccinated at that time because of age or something like that)?
 
To the parents that don't vaccinate their babies/children, what do you say when people ask 'well your child could infect mine because he/she isn't vaccinated yet?' (If their child wasn't vaccinated at that time because of age or something like that)?

In my personal life no one has ever asked me that. But As far my child infecting anyone elses child...Thankfully my child isnt exposing anyone to anything because he has nothing
 
I find that many people shun those who choose not to vaccinate. But the difference, is that those of us who do not vaccinate have DONE OUR RESEARCH. We have not blindly accepted that "doctor knows best" when doctor is paid by pharmaceutical companies to sell, sell, sell. It is not about protecting health anymore, it is about making money. I find that, those who do vaccinate, have done so without an hour's worth of study. They do not investigate deeper, go around what one doctor suggests, and truly do the research and find out what these vaccines are doing to this world.

And when those parents who vaccinated because of fear DO do their research, they quickly become defensive about their decision to vaccinate because they feel cognitive dissonance between their decision and the evidence. That creates a hostile person, because they have done something that contradicts what the evidence truly says.

You know, you could have just stopped after giving your reasons, because this is extremely misleading. You have simply set up a situation where only you can be right. According to you, if a parent chooses to vaccinate, it is because they have not done their research. But if they have done their research and still choose to vaccinate, and try to explain why, it is because they are "defensive" because they know they are wrong. :shrug:

Parents who do not vaccinate are often attacked by parents who do vaccinate. Why is it any of your concern? Why would you be worried? If your child is "VACCINATED" then you should have no problem with those who don't vaccinate. After all, your child won't 'get sick', right?

The majority of parents who are concerned about non-vaccinated children are concerned because a) their children are too young to be vaccinated or to have completed the schedule and are thus susceptible to the illness, or b) their children are unable to be vaccinated for another reason including chronic illness or allergy. Just to clear that up.
 
To the parents that don't vaccinate their babies/children, what do you say when people ask 'well your child could infect mine because he/she isn't vaccinated yet?' (If their child wasn't vaccinated at that time because of age or something like that)?

In my personal life no one has ever asked me that. But As far my child infecting anyone elses child...Thankfully my child isnt exposing anyone to anything because he has nothing

You just cannot say that. Lots of us are 'healthy carriers' of certain bacteria's. You dont even know you have them.
 
some illnesses are most infectious during the incubation phase though, such as chicken pox, children are infectious for 2 weeks before the blisters break out, this was how my son's whole class come down with pox over xmas when he was in nursery. So you can not be sure your child isn't ill even if they seem well with certain viruses xx
 
My view : if babies didn't benefit, they wouldn't be offered. Really as simple as that IMO.
 
I choose to vax my children not just to protect them but, to protect others like newborns who can't be vax due to being too young. There are people out there who don't realise that whooping cough and measels are killers if you don't get vax yes you can still catch them but, not to the extent. I wonder if people who choose not to vax have actually seen what whooping cough is like on a baby or toddler? if they have surely they would vax?
 
some illnesses are most infectious during the incubation phase though, such as chicken pox, children are infectious for 2 weeks before the blisters break out, this was how my son's whole class come down with pox over xmas when he was in nursery. So you can not be sure your child isn't ill even if they seem well with certain viruses xx

The problem with that argument is even vaccinated you can still be a carrier so I guess the view could be at least unvaccinated children will show the symptoms and then be seperation from society until its over but a vaccinated child will just pass on the disease unknown to anyone.

Obviously the former is better for society but not the child who becomes ill from the preventable disease.
 
I chose to vaccinate Emmy as my mum almost died of whooping cough as a baby and with it being on such a high rise in the uk, in my personal opinion, I thought it would be wrong of me not to protect my child from this.

However, again like with most controversial subjects on here... It comes with its pros and its cons and at the end of the day every mother knows what is best for their babies. Wether others agree or not.
 
To the parents that don't vaccinate their babies/children, what do you say when people ask 'well your child could infect mine because he/she isn't vaccinated yet?' (If their child wasn't vaccinated at that time because of age or something like that)?

In my personal life no one has ever asked me that. But As far my child infecting anyone elses child...Thankfully my child isnt exposing anyone to anything because he has nothing

You just cannot say that. Lots of us are 'healthy carriers' of certain bacteria's. You dont even know you have them.

yes your right but we are talking about polio as well as all the other sicknesses that vaccines are suppose to protect against...he wouldnt be healthy walking around spreading it to others. Cuz if that was the case...why were the vaccines even made?
 
I don't vaccinate, I was not vaccinated and I have never come near anyone with a vaccinatable disease, nor had one myself, except chicken pox, which isn't even vaccinated in the UK apparently. It was no big deal.

A K&K made some excellent points. I am terrible at expressing myself sometimes.

There is a database in the US of adverse vaccine reactions, there wouldn't be a database if there wasn't serious adverse reactions to vaccines. You can go and see how many are serious disability or death for certain vaccines. Just the number of serious disabilities or deaths from the MMR vaccine is enough to make me want to think twice about it. Vaccines are not 100% safe, they do cause adverse and deadly reactions. They track them.
 
Your right unless your a doctor let's not pretend to be!! Yes ok I said in the uk doctors do not work on commission this IS true my doctor is great and gas never once forced the subject of immunisations on my she couldn't care less! She is more concerned about seeing everybody before her lunch break lol! In all honesty I think some not all mothers who do not vaccinate make the whole topic to be something more than it is! Ots your choice at the end of the day!
 
I don't vaccinate, I was not vaccinated and I have never come near anyone with a vaccinatable disease, nor had one myself, except chicken pox, which isn't even vaccinated in the UK apparently. It was no big deal.

A K&K made some excellent points. I am terrible at expressing myself sometimes.

There is a database in the US of adverse vaccine reactions, there wouldn't be a database if there wasn't serious adverse reactions to
vaccines. You can go and see how many are serious disability or
death for certain vaccines. Just the
number of serious disabilities or
deaths from the MMR vaccine is
enough to make me want to think
twice about it. Vaccines are not
100% safe, they do cause adverse
and deadly reactions. They track
them.


You will also find that the pros outweight the cons! Hence the reason there is no warning out there to not vaccinate and why all doctors in the uk who don't work on profit (nhs) will recommend. But again we can discuss this till we are blue in the face nobody is going to change there mind x
 
I am choosing to keep my LO vaccine free for a number of reasons.

(1) Vaccines include a lot more than just the "virus" they are trying to prevent. Vaccines need to have a lot of other additives in them to be injectable into the body. Primarily, the biggest turn offs are mercury (thimerasol), aluminum, formaldehyde, biological ingredients such as aborted fetal cells, chick embryo cells, aborted calf cells, oil-based adjuvants, peanut oils, preservatives, and more (and worse).

Each vaccine contains most, if not all, of those ingredients (plus more I didn't list). Keep in mind that the average child will be injected with 36 vaccines before the age of 3. Each time you give your child a vaccine, you inject more mercury, more aluminum, more formaldehyde, more chemicals, more aborted cells, etc, into your LO's bloodstream.

The human body is not made to expel these ingredients easily. Mercury and aluminum can build up in the body, causing a lot of health issues and a lot of side effects. For example, the peanut oils in the vaccines cannot be easily broken down by the body. Thus, the body develops an intolerance to them and - ding ding - you get peanut allergies (ever wonder why the sudden increase in peanut allergies???)

Vaccine ingredients are absolutely terrifying. You can read more in depth about these ingredients here:
https://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/what-is-coming-through-that-needle/

(2) My second reason for not vaccinating my child is that the childhood illnesses they are attempting to prevent are NOT commonplace anymore. And it was not vaccinations that made these illnesses decrease to the extent they have - it was the improvement of living conditions - running water, waste management systems, better healthcare, increased hygiene, etc. If you had any idea the squalor people lived in back when these illnesses were rampant, the living conditions of today are 100x better. We don't go poop in a bucket in our house and then toss the bucket onto the muddy street, where it runs down a makeshift sewer and infects the local butcher's shop....Medical care for illnesses was very primitive - they didn't understand coughing on people spread illness, or what germs were.

(3) Even if my child contracted an illness, chances are it would run its course as "childhood illnesses" do, and if she ended up getting more sick than usual, medical technology of today can cure it up pretty darn well.

(4) I believe in evolution, I believe in nature, I believe that, for the human species to have survived as well as it has, our immune systems must be pretty tough. ESPECIALLY to make it through hundreds of thousands of years of dismal living conditions, and dismal medical treatments. Obviously our bodies can handle a sickness here or there.
I believe that breastfeeding and giving my child a natural antibodies to fight sickness is nature's intention. I believe that my child can be exposed to certain germs and her body will develop its own antibodies, and thus she will have a natural immunity rather than an artificial one.
(5) Vaccines don't necessarily protect your child from the intended illness. The whooping cough vaccine is notoriously known for being very ineffective. As a child, I was vaccinated for whooping cough and guess what - I still got it, in grade 3. I was MISERABLY sick for weeks, but with the proper treatment (humidifiers, puffers, etc), I was fine. And not just in the child's case, but ANY vaccine has the potential to be ineffective (ie: the flu vaccine "attempts" to predict which strain of flu could be the bad one for the year...most of the time, you inject yourself with the vaccine for the WRONG strain.) I would rather be sniffly and sneezy for 10 days than inject myself with such chemicals and nonsense.

In conclusion, there is NO way to know what the accumulation of all these vaccines will do to a person. 36 injections before the age of 3? Injecting things into your baby's body that were NEVER meant to be in a human's body is just a deplorable thought to me. I don't know how anyone could honestly justify vaccinating, especially after doing the research.

I find that many people shun those who choose not to vaccinate. But the difference, is that those of us who do not vaccinate have DONE OUR RESEARCH. We have not blindly accepted that "doctor knows best" when doctor is paid by pharmaceutical companies to sell, sell, sell. It is not about protecting health anymore, it is about making money. I find that, those who do vaccinate, have done so without an hour's worth of study. They do not investigate deeper, go around what one doctor suggests, and truly do the research and find out what these vaccines are doing to this world.

And when those parents who vaccinated because of fear DO do their research, they quickly become defensive about their decision to vaccinate because they feel cognitive dissonance between their decision and the evidence. That creates a hostile person, because they have done something that contradicts what the evidence truly says.

For all of these reasons, and then some, I choose not to vaccinate. I could never justify doing that to my child, especially after knowing what those vaccines contain, and the VERY high unlikelihood my child will contract anything in this day and age. And if she does catch something? No big deal. Maybe she'll be sick, but her body will fight it and she will be all the stronger for it.

Parents who do not vaccinate are often attacked by parents who do vaccinate. Why is it any of your concern? Why would you be worried? If your child is "VACCINATED" then you should have no problem with those who don't vaccinate. After all, your child won't 'get sick', right? So you are SO concerned for the health of my child? That you are willing to tell me I'm a bad parent for not vaccinating? I'm not sorry to say it, but I feel if you vaccinate without having done research, you fit the category of bad parent. In this day and age, it is essential to research. It is essential to go around the big pharmaceutical companies and the highly paid doctors and go behind the front lines, to discover for yourself what is going on. Watch documentaries, read the clinical experiments, open some books and do some research. This is your child's life, after all.

Thank you for your post. It is very well reserached and expressed for the most part. I found it interesting and informative however i did find parts of it to show no thought of people in my situation. For the record I have no issues with those who do not vaccinate, parental choice is most important.

However I find some of your assumptions about those who do vaccinate quite insulting in my own situation.

My daughter has Charge syndrome. A very rare disease. Most of the doctors i have encountered since her diagnosis know little about it (i have wintessed them use google and wikipedia in front of me). I have spent MONTHS researching each and every aspect of my daughters life including her own chances of having children even tho she is only five months old. For the most part I DO know better than the doctors what is good for her. So i find the implication that becasue i vaccinate i must not have doen any research or blindly assume doctor knows best a little insulting. I most certainly do not assume doctor knows best, as im quite sure my daughters team of doctors would attest to. They are made to work very hard to convince me of any course of treatment. On more than one occasion doctors have apologiesd to me for trying to push me in one direction when i have been proven to be correct in something I have insisted upon in my daughters treatment.

Secondly you assume any illness can be ridden out or wont be serious. While this may be true in your case it is not true in every case. My daughter caught a common cold a few weeks ago (yes i know you can t vaccinate agaisnt this) but she spent TWO WEEKS in hospital on oxygen. as a result. If my child catches whooping cough or flu etc it could quite seriously KILL her. So while vaccines are not some magic cure to all disease they could prevent or at least reduce the symptoms for my LO. So if my choice is inject some slightly undesireable subtances into her over her dying guess what I'm going to do.

As far as building her immune system, she was fed breastmilk via tubes till she was 12 weeks, and in the past few months has still had a cold, two bouts of bronciolitis and flu. All of which resulted in seperate hospital stays. of a minimum of 10 days. Part of her syndrome can be a compromised immune system which isnt improved by catching diseases. So letting her ride out illnesses may be a futile exercise anyway.

As you summed up this is my childs life, it has already been several months of surgeries, hospital stays and illness. In our case vaccinations may save my childs life, as her surgeries did. We will give them.

I say again I did however find your post very interesting but as you say a lot of vaccinating parents are quite judgemental towards non vaccintaing parents. It might improve your post to consider in future there are cases where vaccintaing is in the childs best interst even if it doesnt apply to your own situation. :flower:
 

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