Post-mc follow-up scans..?

[baileybubs]

Haha that made me laugh cherry! Think I'm gonna do the same, what price did you get it for? If I'm gonna go for it this month I am gonna really go for it!! May as well try preseed! Have either of you heard of it having advers effects?

Did you test cherry? Are you testing this week? I have decided that from now on I am only testing with a frer once AF is late.....however, I used to have 28 day cycles and this month was 31 day cycle, so when do I consider it to be late lol!! Think I'll wait til cycle day 32 and if no AF I will use the frer! I've got 4 of them now and 2 cb digis coz I ordered some and oh also bought me some, FX'd I only have to use one lol!!

 

[cherrytomato]

No need for me to test - AF landed ages ago! I'm on cd10 now, expecting to o around cd 20 but going to cover 'standard cycle' o day too just in case. Mostly paranoid that the second half of my cycle is too short though, if I have another cycle where is clearly looks like 8-9 days I think I might go to doc or a fertility specialist or something..... But maybe we'll be lucky with the preseed! I bought it from Amazon bailey - almost all the reviews give it 4 or 5 stars, and lots of them said they caught first month of trying with it. Fingers crossed...

 

[baileybubs]

Preseed ordered! Lol! And sorry cherry I loose track of things so easily, i do remember you saying AF had come.

What's considered to be a 'normal' luteal phase and what's considered short?

 

[cherrytomato]

Well from what I've read, if you imagine a 'normal' cycle is 28 days with ovulation on say 14, a normal luteal phase is around 2 weeks. 10-12 days is considered shortish, and less than than is problematic because the bean doesn't have time to bed in before it all comes out. I think it's to do with progesterone levels dropping off too quickly. The luteal phase is meant to stay pretty constant across all your cycles, so if you have a longer cycle than normal, it's because the first (pre-ovulation) part was longer (i.e. you ovulated later).

That kind of thing is all over the ttc boards - it's called a luteal phase defect, and the DIY treatment seems to be high doses of vitamin B6. But when I tried to look specifically on NHS/professional medic type websites, the official advice is that 'there is no evidence that medical treatment of luteal phase defect improves pregnancy rates'. So I'm a bit stumped. I guess they don't officially treat LPD, but lump it in with general fertility probs/low progesterone or something.

I'm not entirely sure if I have got a LPD, my charts look like I might, but I've only been charting since Jan and one cycle I was pregnant, one I mc'd, and my cycles are long, so I'm only really generalising from 2 'normal' cycles, and it's not clear cut. When I got pregnant before, I got a bfn at 13dpo with a First Response test, which suggests that it was too early to test, which suggests that my luteal phase is longer than 13 days. But it hasn't looked like it recently!

Can you tell I've been over-thinking this a bit??

 

[baileybubs]

I'm the same, I over think everything!!

And I'm the same cycle wise as you, only had 3 cycles since January, one was after mc so was weird, one was when I got pg and now the one that's just ended. I think my LP must be 14 days as I O'd on a Wednesday two weeks ago and AF showed yesterday. I used to have 28 day cycles but this month was 31, but think I O'd late coz of all the stress of working long shifts and I kept getting negative opk's!!

How long did you say you think your LP is? It all depends how many times you O too coz apparently a lot of women O twice especially of they have a long cycle. That's why I find all this LP stuff confusing, do you have 2 LPs if you O twice?? It's so baffling!!

 

[cherrytomato]

You can o twice??!

I didn't know that!

I keep thinking I have a horribly long cycle, but it's only a few days extra really - somewhere around 32/33 days at the mo. In my pre-pill days I think it was a standard 28, but that was a long time ago...

FertilityFriend thinks my LP is 8/9 days. But that's based on the very first cycle I was temping (and I started halfway through, so unreliable), and the last one, which wasn't very clear - remember it shifted by 3 days if I told it to ignore just one day's temp? Actually, writing it out like that makes it seem silly really..! I should ignore it!!

 

[Pebbles11]

Hey girls, I am 32 day cycle, and some cycles I def ov twice on some cycles once at 18 and once at 21/22! I know this cos I get ov pain on those days and also the first time I conceived twins that were 3 days apart but obviously neither made it. Twins pass down the maternal side of the family because the women in some families hyper ovulate - my gran is a twin on my mums side.

If your LP is 12 to 14 days youre good, anything less than 12 isn't ideal. Acupuncture can help regulate your cycle allegedly????

All okay here with the rice pop (we are calling it that as a little name cos the scan lady said ooh it's the size of a rice pop!) no bleeding but I am shitting myself that I will mmc. Got a 12 wk scan date - 1 August. I'm 31 on August 5th so it better not be bad news....

 

[baileybubs]

Yep you can indeed O twice! Or so I have read anyway.

My cycles were always 28 too but don't know I that was only coz of the pill. I can't remember what they were pre pill as I was only 15 when I went on it (I had really heavy periods). Ironically now my periods are really light and not very painful. Now I have no idea when I should expect AF this month now, but hopefully if I get a positive opk then if your LP doesn't change then it should be 14 days later......or so I think!

I was actually glad AF turned out to be late as I was worried about short LP seen as I only O'd on cd17.

I can't wait to get to O again, looking forward to using the digi opk's this month!!

 

[baileybubs]

Hey pebbles!

Glad your little Rice pop is doing ok! Bet you can't wait for the scan, I'm sure it will be absolutely fine hun, praying that your bean sticks!

I thought it was possible to O twice.....I also have the maternal gene as my nana had twins and triplets!! Would be nice in a way to have twins. I was joking to my oh and said I'm 'owed' a baby now so next time we should get two lol, but in reality I think I'd be petrified if it was twins! Still it would be awesome to have two gorgeous little babies, I'm sure we'd cope somehow. My oh's brother has two sets of twins, boys are 5 yrs old and girls are 3! They are gorgeous but such a handful!

 

[Pebbles11]

Oh my god it's twin central in your family!!! God it would be hard work with twins wouldn't it!

When will your preseed turn up? Just a tip....don't use as much as the leaflet says, just use half. It makes things well slippery if you use too much!!!! It's so good you could literally not tell your oh and he wouldn't even know you were using it. The only thing I hav heard about it is that it sways a boy....as I helps fast sperm (usually boy sperm) swim even faster. However I'll take any actual live baby at this point so not bothered!

 

[cherrytomato]

awww little rice pop Great that the bleeding's stopped - roll on 1 Aug!

No twins on either side here so slim chance of that! I'll just take the one for now...

Think my preseed will get here at the weekend...just in time for the 10 days of dedicated BDing!

 

[baileybubs]

Will you be bding every day? I think we are going to bd every other day from cd10 and then on O day and 2 days after just in case my LH surge comes 32 hours before I actually O.

 

[baileybubs]

Thanks for the tip on the preseed pebbles! I've told me oh, I want him to be as involved in all the ttc as me coz when I was pg last time I think he felt a bit uninvolved coz all he did was one little job haha! I think if he is more involved in all this ttc craziness he might feel more like he had a more important role than just sperm donor hehe!

And I'm with you, a healthy happy baby is fine by me, boy or girl, even both! Twins may be a handful but in reality I'd be overjoyed if I went for a scan and they said there were 2 and they were both doing well!!

 

[cherrytomato]

Hopefully at least every other day, but during a window of about 12 days cos I'm not sure about o day. I'd rather do it every day during the most likely patch, but it tends to stress oh out a bit and I guess there's no need really....

 

[baileybubs]

Well the way i see it is if I could get pg before by chance, surely bd'ing every other day should give us a good chance. Think it's more annoying that you can do it at exactly the right time and it still not work!

 

[cherrytomato]

I know, that sucks!! Ah well, we'll give it everything we've got...

 

[baileybubs]

Exactly! And I'm praying to get pg by November as we are getting married sept next year. I can't exactly be getting married when I'm about to pop so if I'm not pg by November I will have to stop ttc and use bc pill again. I don't mind getting married if I'm anything up to 5 months pg so I'll have to stop between November and April next year I think if I've not already got there. Oh well, we shall see. Still got 5 months this year to try, and thankfully my cycles are only a month long on average so thats 5 tries!!

 

[cherrytomato]

5 months is a good amount of time, every chance you'll be pg by then! How exciting, wedding plans and baby plans....we got married last year, I was crap at the planning. My sister got all the Bridezilla genes. But you've got ages before you have to start planning the wedding I guess! Would you go back on the pill if you hadn't caught by Nov..? It mucked up my cycles so much that I really don't want to go back on it til after we've had our second (we want two, only a year or two apart if poss).

In other news, just got an email saying my preseed is in the post!

 

[baileybubs]

I don't want to go back on the pill no, but like I said I dont want to be heavily preggers in a wedding dress!! I guess I'll just have to see what's going on once November comes. Fingers crossed I will already be pregnant!!

 

[cherrytomato]

Hi both,

How are things? Hope all's well

My preseed arrived at the weekend - has been useful so far, so fingers crossed!

xx