Recurrent Miscarriage Thread

[hopeful23456]

heart - thank god that bill didn't pass - seems to be alot of VERY ignorant people that run the govt most of the time here in the states. all old and clueless
the iui went well, it was quick, i always have a drop of blood when they take out the catheter filled w/sperm (i have never seen it though, they just tell me). they have me test 14 days after the trigger. (of course, i will test way before then and keep testing as i've turned into a poas junkie).

just read your new post - that's how they have me do it too, BD night of trigger then day after iui so you know what i'll be doing tonight - thanks for reminding me you don't have to wait until after the trigger tonight, but they always have me trigger at 10pm just so you know as then my IUIs are scheduled for 11am (so about 36 hours later but it ends up being around 11:30 am when they start iui). the iui is so quick, just 5 mins or so. have you had IUIs before?

i always feel ovu pain, like my ovaries are big and little cramps in them. you really have to trust the trigger shot works (i poas to get the 2 lines to make sure i got it in me right). you can do it in your stomach or leg (what they told me - i used 250 iu Ovidrel). and it's hcg so kind of makes you feel preg too.

amos- i've never used metformin. i would test before your bday too so you can drink if it's neg. Then, if my test i neg a few days before thanksgiving, i can use your bag as well. i told my mom i'm not going to my aunts for the holiday (where everyone is going) as i don't want to be around kids no matter what. will probably go out to eat.

35 - sounds like you are really happy, you deserve it!

lee - im so excited you are see shehata

hi pip - i refer gals to your steroidmania thread when they ask how steroids make you feel

 

[petitpas]

Sorry, Amos, I don't know. Can you not continue taking it in pregnancy then?

Lee, please don't look at me! I'm so scared it'll all be over at our next scan. This last one the baby only measured 2mm more than our biggest dead one. Sorry to be so explicit. It was still too close to think we have cleared it!
Although I have to admit to occasionally silently stalking another thread on the net with a collection of ladies under Mr S's care. They seem to be doing mostly well with only one of them having suffered a miscarriage so far (yet she is trying again) and a handful being past the 9 week mark.
It helps to read those stories but I'm still very scared. I don't think any of us will be feeling carefree in first tri ever again.

 

[heart tree]

35, my hubby has to produce his sample at the clinic. They don't let anyone else in the room with him. Apparently there are some porn videos and magazines in the room. Hopefully that will be enough to get the job done. Tonight we're going to BD and then I'll do the trigger. The doctor said not to BD again until after the IUI on Friday. They want him to abstain for at least 24 hours.

I love your story! Obviously it worked!

 

[petitpas]

Hi 35!

Lol, I think I missed a trick by getting the wrong university degree! Maybe all these miscarriages are a sign to me to requalify?

 

[Amos2009]

35- you cracked me up!! Yeah- be sure and take care of those men ladies. Hopefully they won't do like mine did- he finally got it up, both nights, but couldn't ever shoot me some boys. Soooooo.....what's the point I wanted to scream at him!! LOL

Heart- I never did come across a reason why to stay on it the whole cycle, but I did see plenty of people who's doctors told them to. I did find one good side effect- not sure how I missed this before when reading- weight loss. HUH? Ok- now I'm on board!

Hopeful- yay on finishing the IUI! Now it's your turn to catch those eggies!!
So when you say the HCG shot makes you feel preggo- I wonder if that's why I am feeling so exhausted these past 2 days? That plus the progesterone suppositories maybe?

 

[heart tree]

Hopeful, I'm going to do the Ovidrel tonight. I'm not sure what the amount is. I plan to do it in the stomach. I had a practice run with a nurse, so I have done it once, but that one was filled with saline, not hcg. I have 20 IC's and 9 FRER's ready. I'll use my ICs to test the hcg down. I'm secretly excited to see those pink lines.

I'm already planning to have Thanksgiving dinner with my husband's cousin. She has 2 young children. It's going to be very hard, but I don't have a way out of it. I'd gladly join you in going out to eat if I could.

Pip, being scared is the name of the game for us. As we've proven, being worried about something doesn't make it real or true. But at the same time, it is impossible not to be scared. Mr. S sounds like a miracle worker though. I have hope.

 

[Amos2009]

Dr. Pip- ( I just love calling you that) It sounds like you are in the best hands possible. But you are right- we have lost that innocence and happiness that should be our first trimester. I hope these next few weeks fly by and we get to see picture of little Ducky soon!

I wish we could all get together for Thanksgiving. Would make it so much easier.

 

[35_Smiling]

Hopeful23456 I will be more happier when I get to see her/him lol

Petitpas: hope you the fear eases as time goes on.

Heart tree: okay then wow I am sure he will be okay then hee hee well we didn’t on the day I only did some physical help for him but the next day until I burnt him out

Amos2009: I tell you we talk about it today now and then and bust our laughing too lol

 

[HappyAuntie]

Hearty and Amos, I've had 5 IUIs and my clinic says to test 14 days after the IUI, but with every single one of them (including the one that worked and I later lost) I've started spotting at 12-13 days after the trigger and tested on 14 dptrigger. If you figure the trigger is like the LH surge, it makes more sense to test 14 days after trigger than 14 days after IUI anyway. And yes, the trigger and the progesterone make me feel super pregnant every time - the trigger makes my nipples burn if you even look at them! And my ovaries twitch around like Mexican jumping beans for most of the tww with all the extra progesterone floating around in there. It's a cruel trick, really. My boobs almost always start to hurt less a day or two before I start spotting - that's usually my first clue.

(By way of reintroducing myself, because though this thread is the reason I joined BnB, it's been ages since I posted regularly on it... DH and I are 38 and we've been ttc #1 for three years. We lost our first baby at 12 weeks, second at 8 weeks and third at 5 weeks. DH has sky-high count and motility but only 1% morphology. I'm hetero MTHFR but my homocysteine is normal, so it's probably not a factor. My RE has me on extra folic acid, baby aspirin, progesterone suppositores from ovulation/trigger, and we've been doing IUIs with injectables since February of this year, with a few breaks in that time, to help speed things along.)

 

[heart tree]

Hi HA, so good to see you here. I can't bring myself to be anywhere else but this thread. I feel at home here. It's strange how I've become a mc snob. If you've only had one, I find myself having a hard time relating. Of course I have empathy, but unless you've had more than one, I can't relate anymore. And if you've never had any, well then, we're in a totally different universe! So, this is my home now. But of course I read up on you and some other ladies on some of the other threads I used to frequent.

Thanks for the IUI info. Shoot, that means testing day for me will be the day after Thanksgiving. I just know myself and I'm going to test before that.

When did you time your BD sessions? I know there is some debate about BD'ing the day before IUI. I was told not to, but I'm scared to miss my window.

Also, you said you spotted 12-13 dp trigger. Did this happen while on progesterone? I never bleed when using the progesterone. I have to stop it in order to get AF.

 

[Amos2009]

Hello Happy! I am pretty sure I remember seeing you around the boards. Sorry you are still trying for that forever baby, but welcome back to the thread. And thanks for the info too- I actually had the trigger and the IUI done the same day based on an ultrasound (that i think was measured incorrectly) that showed one follie about to burst.
Regardless- I have decided Nov 16th will be my first test date. Then I will have plenty of time to

 

[heart tree]

Amos, does that mean your birthday is November 17?

Why do you think you were measured incorrectly?

 

[Amos2009]

My birthday is actually the 21st. That is when my doc wants me to come in for a beta....at first I thought I wouldn't test, that I would just wait on the beta. Of course- that plan has changed.
The day they decided to do the trigger and the IUI- the sonographer (which always is in a hurry and doesn't explain crap) measured one follie at 19.7 or something...so they rushed in and did the IUI. The next day doc wanted to see me for another ultrasound just to see what that follie and the others were doing to see if we caught it in time. Well, I had NO follie that big. The biggest 2 were around 17ish.

 

[petitpas]

Hi HA!
With the 1% morphology, how come you have not gone straight to ICSI? I'm not terribly clued up on this but doesn't it mean that with IUI they are putting more of the bad swimmers closer to your eggs?

Heart, I can be a bit of a snob, too. A while ago a real life friend was at our house, visibly pregnant. She told me that she had a scare with a little bleeding at 12w. You won't believe how frightened I was, she said to me! I could have punched her

 

[Amos2009]

Pip- some people are SO freaking clueless. And you are right- this thread is my sanctuary. I don't venture out anywhere else.

 

[heart tree]

Hmmm...Amos, that is really strange about the measurement. Well at least you know you didn't do IUI too late. You definitely had time for the sperm to meet the egg.

Pip, I probably would have punched her! Argh, I get so annoyed by that! My pregnant friend just told me she feels like she has a monster growing inside of her and then said that the ultrasound image looked like a little beast in there. Luckily this was all written over email, or else I probably would have punched her. Needless to say, she's never had a loss. Can you imagine calling your baby that after all we've been through?

Thanks for understanding my snobbiness. It's the first time I've ever admitted it to anyone. xoxo

 

[LeeC]

That's the good thing about this thread. We can all speak openly about how we feel and know we are not judged.
I've often wanted to give a few people the hairy side of my hand!!!
This site keeps me sane xxx.

 

[LeeC]

Pip, do you have the link to thread of other Dr S patients. Would be interested to read. It's so true and yet bloody unfair how we will all be so apprehensive and anxious in our first trimester, I can't even imagine the stress after that, 12 weeks would feel like a milestone at the minute.

 

[hopefulmama2b]

You won't believe how frightened I was, she said to me!

 

[petitpas]

Aw. thanks for the backup!

Heart, I actually think some babies' scan pictures look really scary! Especially the 3D ones. I certainly wouldn't want to encounter a 6ft version down a dark alleyway...