Hi HA, so good to see you here. I can't bring myself to be anywhere else but this thread. I feel at home here. It's strange how I've become a mc snob. If you've only had one, I find myself having a hard time relating. Of course I have empathy, but unless you've had more than one, I can't relate anymore. And if you've never had any, well then, we're in a totally different universe! So, this is my home now. But of course I read up on you and some other ladies on some of the other threads I used to frequent.
Thanks for the IUI info. Shoot, that means testing day for me will be the day after Thanksgiving. I just know myself and I'm going to test before that.
When did you time your BD sessions? I know there is some debate about BD'ing the day before IUI. I was told not to, but I'm scared to miss my window.
Also, you said you spotted 12-13 dp trigger. Did this happen while on progesterone? I never bleed when using the progesterone. I have to stop it in order to get AF.
My RE wants a 2-5 day break before IUI day, so we try to BD a couple of times just to "clear the pipes" during stimming since we never know exactly when trigger will be, and waiting until trigger day only gives his swimmers a 1.5 day break before the IUI. So long story short, we try to time our BD so that our last one is the day before trigger, but sometimes it's two days before and sometimes it's on trigger day. Our RE does one IUI at 36 hrs past trigger and has us BD that night. Once or twice we haven't managed to because DH sometimes has a difficult time managing to get the job done twice in a day.
But I always kind of figure the post-IUI BD is a bonus BD anyway - way more sperm get past the cervix with the IUI than could get up there in a 7-day BD marathon, so I don't worry about it too much. Like with our last IUI, if 200 million sperm in the IUI can't get the job done, adding a couple hundred thousand more that night won't make much difference.
And yeah, with the stims and IUIs, I spot at 12-13 dptrigger even on the progesterone. (It never happened when we were trying on our own and using the suppositories.) I questioned my RE about it, and he said that any drop in progesterone will cause some spotting, and even with the suppositories, when you have so many follicles (I've had from 2-5 each time) you get that many corpus luteum as well, so even if just one fertilized egg implants you're likely to have a small drop in progesterone and therefore some spotting may show up. (What is the plural of corpus luteum, anyway? Corpus lutei??
Whatever - you know what I meant!
) Full flow doesn't usually start for me until about 24-36 hrs after my last suppository.
Hi HA!
With the 1% morphology, how come you have not gone straight to ICSI? I'm not terribly clued up on this but doesn't it mean that with IUI they are putting more of the bad swimmers closer to your eggs?
Because his count is so high that in actual numbers, he typically has more good sperm than an average sample with good morphology. His counts are crazy high - his last sample had 200 million post-wash.
The RE said that with three pregnancies, two of which were acheived without assistance, DH has fathered more than enough babies to prove his morphology is not a problem for us. If we move on to IVF (which we'll probably do after our current break ends in January), he said he'd probably do a to-be-sure ICSI, where he uses ICSI on half the eggs to make sure enough fertilize.
Thanks for the warm welcome/re-welcome, ladies.
I've been stalking this thread all along for the last year and a half even after I stopped posting, so it's one of those awkward things where I know all of you and most of you don't know me at all. I'll try not to be too creepy-stalker about it!
Yeah, after my first mc I had a friend tell me she understood how upset I was because she felt the same way after she had to have a c-section for her first when she'd wanted a natural birth so badly.
I lit into her and really didn't care how she felt about it. (We've talked about it since and she has apologized profusely for it. We both felt better.)
I, too, have a hard time sympathizing with anyone with one or two losses. I hate admitting it, but it's true.