Recurrent Miscarriage Thread

[JASMAK]

Just touching on what Widger was saying, I also had tests done....not sure if I have ever posted what on this thread specifically, but the ones I had done was:
blood - ALL, literally
HSG
I had a hysterscopy
I had a D&C
I had a lap
No reason was ever found with me...I was even ovulating on my own from both ovaries (I had infertility too)

My husband was finally tested after four years, and it turned out he had:
low testosterone
high FSH
thick visocity
only 3% normal sperm

So, my advice is make sure they check OH no matter what. The reason why it took so long for them to test my OH was because we already had two children together, and we got pregnant 3 times after our two children (all miscarriages - one was a set of twins using Clomid). They said that since we were able to get pregnant, it wasn't hubby, but it was in the end...and never me.

Wow Jazmak thankyou for that about OH, i assumed it would be me due to me getting caught easily but after you saying that it has made me wonder if maybe it could be OH? he had his bloods done for the chromosomal testing but we both came back fine for that, but they defo havent checked his sperm. Hmmmmm i wonder if that could be it? Well i am starting my pprogesterone pessaries and asprin next ovulation so we'll give it another shot 1st to rule out low progesterone n hope & pray we get a sticky bean . Hopefully like Widger i'll be 4th time lucky? FX'd xxxxxxxxxxxx Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy hun & try n enjoy every second of it, i cant wait to be where you are Jaz xxxxxxxxx Lov Caz xxxxxxxxxxxx

Yes, it is a simple test really, and why not at least rule it out. Let us know how it goes...

 

[WannaB]

Unfortunatley I am back yet again, found out number 4 is no good, just waiting to hopefully mc naturally after stopping my pessaries or Im in for a D&C on Tuesday, absolutley gutted. My FS is now talking about heparin injections and steriods so I guess he's looking at NK cells with that treatment?

 

[fifi-folle]

Oh WannaB I am so sorry.

 

[padbrat]

WannaB... so sorry you are back here. x

 

[Minimin]

Wannabe! I am so sorry

 

[Swanny]

Hi

I'm back again m/c No.3

Hosp are arranging further investigations but I'm not sure what that involves. Just posted a new thread asking for advice.

Can't believe it's happened again, I'm so scared and feel like I'm useless.

I know that it may not be me that is causing m/c or OH that it could just be a horrible run of bad luck. But I can't help feeling like I am completely USELESS!

I feel like OH is getting me pregnant and then I'm just messing it up! Some days I feel like I don't even want to look at myself in the mirror cause I feel so disgusted with myself and how my body has let me and everyone else down

 

[fifi-folle]

Swanny so sorry. You are NOT useless, you are not "messing it up", there will be a reason and hopefully you will now get the help you need to find out why it is happening and prevent it from happening again. (I am saying this even though there are days when I feel like you are, the rational part of me knows that these thoughts are not true.)

 

[HappyAuntie]

Swanny, I am so sorry. I know exactly what you mean about feeling useless. After my second, those thoughts really started to take over. I feel completely worthless some days. And Fifi, I know exactly what you mean about the disconnect between my emotional brain and my rational brain... very frustrating. And then I feel like I must surely be going nuts, talking to myself and telling myself not to think those things.

Good thing I have another appointment with my counselor this afternoon.

 

[WannaB]

So sorry Swanny! I know what you mean about feeling useless too, even with meds I managed to mc, hopefully they can find something they can treat to help you get that sticky bfp hun, massive hugs to you!

 

[Omi]

Just wanted to say to you girls above that there is nothing that you have done. Recurrent mc's, depending on who you believe/read/listen to are not normal. Meaning, that for most people there will be a reason. I read a wonderful book by (now deceased) Dr Beer, a world renowned mc specialist (his clinic is still running strong in Chicago..you can google his name..) and he reckons that all mc should be investigated as they all have a reason. Yes, some will be 'straight forward' chromosome anomalies yet, that's a reason. No one should expect to just accept this happening.

And certainly, its through no fault of your own! I know, you probably mean its your 'fault' like in you're 'defective' yet you would never say that to someone who had diabetes, hughes disease (sticky blood) or got preeclampsia, would you?

Bad things happen to good people and its our job to decide whether we can stick it out or not. Some of us cant and i would never blame anyone for that, at all. But i also don't wish for any woman to sit there and call herself useless. That is pure wrong!!

None of us chose this road, yet it is the road we are travelling on. You might never find out the reason this happened to you (and i hope and wish you do!) but that still doesnt make it right for you to put yourself down and think of yourself as a lesser being, woman. You didn't chose this, it happened to you!! I would wager like any sane ttc woman you would give you eye teeth to have a baby? And you most probably did.

By all means feel anger, frustration, even self pity at times ( hey, im no stranger ) but don't you dare to ever question your worth as a woman or would be mother. You are NOT worthless! Don't hate your body. This is not your fault, girls!

I pray, hope and wish you find the reason why this happened to you. But even if you don't, i wish you peace, happiness and success regardless.

I say this as a 40 year old 2 mc survivor. I had testing and was told i have an underactive thyroid which possibly, just possibly, but by no means certainly means that was why i mc. There are no easy answers and i will honestly say i will s**t myself if and when i get pg again....but, what can i do but hope, pray and believe i will have a baby one day. Its either that or fold, give up and admit defeat.

And i wont!

Mucho love ladies!

ps, sorry for the rant, lol!

 

[padbrat]

Omi you are so right, but it is sooo hard.

I had my second scan today and although things had grown they hadn't grown as much as they wanted. They have agreed to scan me again next Wed and if there is no dramatic improvement I will be going for surgery... the docs are convinced it is a mmc. I think they agreed because I am not in pain and not bleeding. This is the 4th baby I have lost and I have never made it out of 1st tri.

When the sonographer, who was lovely told me it wasn't good I felt sick and thought not again. What is wrong with me? Why can't I make my gorgeous husband into a Father?

It feels so hard to have hope and wait when the docs are telling you they are 99% sure it is a mmc and I will bleed and be in pain again soon. I am tired of putting us through this again and again.

They say they will test us if I lose this one. Swanny, please keep in touch with me and let me know what happens with you. Maybe we can help eachother through this?

 

[Smiler13]

Hi ladies, so sorry for your losses. Thank you Omi for your post, which almost made me cry, can really recognise the feelings and it is good to have some positive statements to counter some of the self-doubt.

For those of you who haven't had tests done yet, elsewhere on this thread and on B&B are links to information about tests and to other forums. Am attaching a few below.

Forums:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage

https://messageboards.ivillage.co.uk/iv-ukpbrepeatmc/

Tests:

https://www.rcog.org.uk/womens-heal...ent-miscarriage-what-rcog-guideline-means-you

https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/ma2006/information0.htm

https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/ma2006/about/researchNews.htm (information about clinical trials re. progesterone and "natural killer cells")

https://kingspath.co.uk/tests/?id=haematology&gid=4&d=42 (sometimes some of the testing includes a "thrombophilia screen")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherman's_syndrome

https://www.hfea.gov.uk/fertility-treatment-options-reproductive-immunology.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003511.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab002859.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab004073.html

 

[Smiler13]

Hi ladies, so sorry for your losses. Thank you Omi for your post, which almost made me cry, can really recognise the feelings and it is good to have some positive statements to counter some of the self-doubt.

For those of you who haven't had tests done yet, elsewhere on this thread and on B&B are links to information about tests and to other forums. Am attaching a few below.

Forums:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage

https://messageboards.ivillage.co.uk/iv-ukpbrepeatmc/

Tests:

https://www.rcog.org.uk/womens-heal...ent-miscarriage-what-rcog-guideline-means-you

https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/ma2006/information0.htm

https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/ma2006/about/researchNews.htm (information about clinical trials re. progesterone and "natural killer cells")

https://kingspath.co.uk/tests/?id=haematology&gid=4&d=42 (sometimes some of the testing includes a "thrombophilia screen")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherman's_syndrome

https://www.hfea.gov.uk/fertility-treatment-options-reproductive-immunology.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003511.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab002859.html

https://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab004073.html

 

[WannaB]

Omi you are so right, but it is sooo hard.

I had my second scan today and although things had grown they hadn't grown as much as they wanted. They have agreed to scan me again next Wed and if there is no dramatic improvement I will be going for surgery... the docs are convinced it is a mmc. I think they agreed because I am not in pain and not bleeding. This is the 4th baby I have lost and I have never made it out of 1st tri.

When the sonographer, who was lovely told me it wasn't good I felt sick and thought not again. What is wrong with me? Why can't I make my gorgeous husband into a Father?

It feels so hard to have hope and wait when the docs are telling you they are 99% sure it is a mmc and I will bleed and be in pain again soon. I am tired of putting us through this again and again.

They say they will test us if I lose this one. Swanny, please keep in touch with me and let me know what happens with you. Maybe we can help eachother through this?

Im thinking of you hun! Going through the exact same thing, will know today what the oucome is. At my 7 week scan I measured only 5 weeks, perfect sac and yolk but more should have been there for 7 weeks, if my dates could have been out there would be more hope, but I do bbt and progesterone so Im sure of my dates unfortunatley. Going in for another scan today and if nothing has progressed Im getting a D&C done straight away. This will be the 4th Ive lost too, but Ive been run through all the tests so I have no idea what will be next other than what he mentioned last visit. Guess I will know more today. Massive hugs ladies!

 

[padbrat]

Ohhh WannaB. I am so sorry you are going through this too and you are in the same position as me. I really would not want anyone to have to go through this...

The waiting and waiting and losing hope is terrrible...

If you feel strong enough please let me know how you get on today, feel free to pm me if you want. I really am wishing for the very best for you xx

Omi you are so right, but it is sooo hard.

I had my second scan today and although things had grown they hadn't grown as much as they wanted. They have agreed to scan me again next Wed and if there is no dramatic improvement I will be going for surgery... the docs are convinced it is a mmc. I think they agreed because I am not in pain and not bleeding. This is the 4th baby I have lost and I have never made it out of 1st tri.

When the sonographer, who was lovely told me it wasn't good I felt sick and thought not again. What is wrong with me? Why can't I make my gorgeous husband into a Father?

It feels so hard to have hope and wait when the docs are telling you they are 99% sure it is a mmc and I will bleed and be in pain again soon. I am tired of putting us through this again and again.

They say they will test us if I lose this one. Swanny, please keep in touch with me and let me know what happens with you. Maybe we can help eachother through this?

Im thinking of you hun! Going through the exact same thing, will know today what the oucome is. At my 7 week scan I measured only 5 weeks, perfect sac and yolk but more should have been there for 7 weeks, if my dates could have been out there would be more hope, but I do bbt and progesterone so Im sure of my dates unfortunatley. Going in for another scan today and if nothing has progressed Im getting a D&C done straight away. This will be the 4th Ive lost too, but Ive been run through all the tests so I have no idea what will be next other than what he mentioned last visit. Guess I will know more today. Massive hugs ladies!

 

[WannaB]

Thanks for the well wishes padbrat. Nothing had grown since the last scan so the decision was made to get the D&C. The fetal tissue will be sent off to pathology to see if we can maybe get an idea of whas going on. If it was healthy the doc said he will start me on the stronger meds, if it was chromosonal then we will be left to carry on like we are. Im praying you have a better outcome hun and your wait isnt too much longer.

 

[padbrat]

Oh WannaB, I am so sad that this has happened to you. I was really hoping that one of us would have something positive...

I have started very light brown spotting that comes and goes since my scan on Monday, so don't think things are well, though no pain yet.

Please will you let me know how you are doing? Maybe the both of us can help eachother through this.

 

[MrsWez]

I'm so happy I found this thread. I am currently going through my 4th miscarriage at the moment. 1st was technically a stillbirth, December 23, 2004, Avalon Madeline. 2nd was September 21, 2009 MMC at 10 weeks, 3rd was 4 weeks and 3 days March 2, 2010 and this one which started this morning. I am going to my dr. tomorrow but I feel so broken and hopeless right now. I do have mild endo, but I can't seem to stay pregnant. Just a week ago I got a positive digital test and today I'm crying into a bowl of ice cream. I don't know if there is something wrong with me or a string of bad luck but I won't let my babies passing go without finding out why. My periods have also been getting shorter. I'm frustrated and just want to cry.

 

[padbrat]

Mrs Wez I know exactly what you mean. I am going through my third m/c at the moment at 7 weeks... this is my 4th baby and I have been given no answers and it just destroys you.

So we will cry and hurt and bleed and then we will get up and ask our questions and get our answers. Finally we will get our babies.

Everyone here knows how you feel and we are here x

 

[below zero]

padbrat:
I am very sorry to hear you're having such a tough time. Don't give up. I have a friend who has had 4 m/c at the end of the 1st trimester for no known reason. 5th try went well, her due date is next week. With a little math: for all I know the risk of m/c in the first trimester is between 1/8 and 1/5, depending on where you look, numbers seem to be uncertain. This means even if there's no underlying cause and the m/c are uncorrelated, chances are one in 5000 pregnant women will have 4 miscarriages in a row. That's a frustratingly high rate, but means that there's not necessarily anything wrong with you, it's possibly just bad luck.