Sch group (Subchorionic Hematoma)

[mara16jade]

Greenstar - welcome to the thread. Sorry we have to meet under these circumstances. My SCH was detected in week 5 and from the scan picture it was at least 2x the size of the sac (maybe even 3x). They said it was "small", but on the picture it looked rather large, like it wrapped around the sac. It was no longer able to be found by my specialist (during my NT scan) at 14w. And I bled the WHOLE time. If I wasn't gushing bright or crimson red blood, I was spotting pink or brown. I never had more than maybe ONE day of no spotting. It was very stressful, painful and my anxiety was threw the roof. Drink lots of water and kick your feet up (literally elevate your feet) when you feel those cramps coming on. Water is really important. Hope you're doing ok.

Elkalemi, I was scanned at 5w4d and they couldn't see a thing (only a sac and the SCH). By 5w6d, they saw a fetal pole and the slightest beginnings of a HB. But my baby has always measured a few days ahead. So even though I was 5w6d, its possible he was developmentally further along by a few days. And in those early days, a few days means A LOT.

Hope everyone is doing ok.

ETA: The first page on my journal shows a few scan pictures from the beginning. Doesn't show the SCH, but you can see how much changed in 2 days from 5w4d to 5w6d.

 

[Yo_Yo]

So I had my scan-blood clot still there. Didn't get measured as it was a private scan, but looked as big as before, perhaps slightly bigger.

AnywY, she showed me in the clot white dots/grainy areas that she said suggests it's old blood coagulating...this sounds good news, right??

Baby was bouncing away and it looks like a boy. So hard to not get attached, but at the same time I can't even let myself imagine a baby with this stupid sch interfering!

 

[mara16jade]

Yes, old blood is better than fresh blood. But I had bright fresh blood all the way up until about a month before I was cleared. Its so hard not to be hopeful and get attached. But as my doctor at my 10 week scan said, by that point in the pregnancy, I was pretty safe even though I was still bleeding.

 

[Yo_Yo]

Yes, old blood is better than fresh blood. But I had bright fresh blood all the way up until about a month before I was cleared. Its so hard not to be hopeful and get attached. But as my doctor at my 10 week scan said, by that point in the pregnancy, I was pretty safe even though I was still bleeding.

Thanks Mara,

Sorry if I've asked you before-how long did it take to clear?
Wow your 25 weeks tomorrow!!

 

[mara16jade]

Yes, 25 weeks tomorrow!!

My SCH was found at like 5w4d (but I had been lightly spotting for a few days before that). And I was officially off pelvic rest and free to go about my business like a normal pregnant woman by exactly 17 weeks. At my ~14w NT scan appointment, the specialist could barely see a tiny amount left (as well as marginal placenta previa). But by 17 weeks, both issues were definitely gone. They say most people find or develop SCHs in 2nd tri (and its safer and has a better outcome vs finding it in 1st tri). And most SCHs are healed by 20 weeks - that's the average.

 

[Ferreroroche]

Happy Week 25 Mara! You are steaming ahead now!

YoYo... Your findings sound completely normal for an early stage sch. They often get bigger before they shrink (because I think they actively bleed but not all of it comes out).

Mine certainly was bigger at the 13 week scan than the original scan at 11+6 when I was haemorrhaging.

And despite your current bleeding, your baby is still happy in there and into your second trimester so is getting safer by the day.

Did they tell you where the sch was located in relation to the placenta?

White and grainy does indicate clotting blood, which is good as it means the active bleeding is slowing down. I spotted for several weeks after mine looked like that but there was no more bright red fresh gushes.

Hang tight, keep resting as much as you can and hopefully things will start to slowly resolve.

I have a scan on saturday, 4 weeks since my 20 week scan, so praying baby boy is growing on track and the sch is abit smaller at least.

 

[Yo_Yo]

Happy Week 25 Mara! You are steaming ahead now!

YoYo... Your findings sound completely normal for an early stage sch. They often get bigger before they shrink (because I think they actively bleed but not all of it comes out).

Mine certainly was bigger at the 13 week scan than the original scan at 11+6 when I was haemorrhaging.

And despite your current bleeding, your baby is still happy in there and into your second trimester so is getting safer by the day.

Did they tell you where the sch was located in relation to the placenta?

White and grainy does indicate clotting blood, which is good as it means the active bleeding is slowing down. I spotted for several weeks after mine looked like that but there was no more bright red fresh gushes.

Hang tight, keep resting as much as you can and hopefully things will start to slowly resolve.

I have a scan on saturday, 4 weeks since my 20 week scan, so praying baby boy is growing on track and the sch is abit smaller at least.

My sch is like a crescent shape moon all across the top above baby. It's near the edge of placenta, but not touching. Baby kept kicking it-I'd kick it too if I could, damn thing!

Good luck for your scan honey. Be good for you to see how baby is doing.

Happy 25 week Mara! A week nearer

How's everyone doing?

 

[Yo_Yo]

Grrr-cramps and brown bleeding now
Feel so worried now-so many questions go through my mind..will it stay brown? Is it a bad sign? A good sign? Argh.

 

[whigfield]

 

[Ferreroroche]

Grrr-cramps and brown bleeding now
Feel so worried now-so many questions go through my mind..will it stay brown? Is it a bad sign? A good sign? Argh.

It is normal and how sch's tend to bleed out. I bled brown for weeks.mand it would often stop during. Day and come back at night.

Don't panic. Just prepare yourself to see it for a few weeks so that you aren't shocked.

Red gushes are when it is actively bleeding again.

 

[shinona]

Hi everyone. I'm so pleased to have found this thread. I've only read the last few pages although I'll try and catch up.

I'm 8+4 with my third baby (also had a mc three years ago between ds and dd. I had brown bleeding on Monday of this week. At EPAS I had a scan and saw baby's heartbeat which reduced me to tears as I expected the worst. They also saw a hematoma. I was told to expect more brown bleeding but to go back if it gushed or was red.

I had a little brown again on Tuesday and yesterday but some.red this morning. So back.to hospital.for me. We're on hols in Germany now but luckily my friend is a fluent speaker and held my hand throughout while dh stayed with our other two. Lovely heartbeat again. Can still.see hematoma. They gave me magnesium and progesterone to take. Anyone else had to take these?

I'm so worried but I know there is nothing I can do but wait, hope, pray and try and take it as easy as I can with a 4 year old and a 2 year old.

 

[Ferreroroche]

Hi everyone. I'm so pleased to have found this thread. I've only read the last few pages although I'll try and catch up.

I'm 8+4 with my third baby (also had a mc three years ago between ds and dd. I had brown bleeding on Monday of this week. At EPAS I had a scan and saw baby's heartbeat which reduced me to tears as I expected the worst. They also saw a hematoma. I was told to expect more brown bleeding but to go back if it gushed or was red.

I had a little brown again on Tuesday and yesterday but some.red this morning. So back.to hospital.for me. We're on hols in Germany now but luckily my friend is a fluent speaker and held my hand throughout while dh stayed with our other two. Lovely heartbeat again. Can still.see hematoma. They gave me magnesium and progesterone to take. Anyone else had to take these?

I'm so worried but I know there is nothing I can do but wait, hope, pray and try and take it as easy as I can with a 4 year old and a 2 year old.

I am on progesterone to help keep the pregnancy established and almost put myself on magnesium to stop my uterus being so irritable, but in UK they don't really advocate it on nhs so midwives etc would not confirm it was safe.

Sounds like in your case they are happy for you to have it, which I think is a positive thing.

Welcome to the board.

 

[Ferreroroche]

Trivial question, but can anyone tell me how to add a ticker at the bottom of my post? I've tried looking at my settings but can't see any way of adding one.

 

[Yo_Yo]

Will they prescribe progresterone in the UK? I've heard it helps, but no ones mentioned it?

 

[Ferreroroche]

Will they prescribe progresterone in the UK? I've heard it helps, but no ones mentioned it?

Some will, some won't.

I am lucky, I was on it as part of my ivf regime up until 12 weeks, and because I hemorrhaged the day before and have a sympathetic gp, she agreed not to take me off it while the sch was there as she thought it was a bad idea to change anything that might make my pregnancy more precarious.

In the U.S.A it seems to be more common to prescribe progesterone for sch.

I am very lucky with my gp though, it is down to her (and not the consultant at the hospital) that I am also on a long term low dose antibiotic to prevent premature labour due to UTIs. The nhs consultant refused, but my gp went above and beyond to speak to microbiologists to confirm appropriate antibiotic, and in the end when I saw a private consultant, he immediately said I should be on it as well.

Really is rather hit and miss over here.

 

[Yo_Yo]

Will they prescribe progresterone in the UK? I've heard it helps, but no ones mentioned it?

Some will, some won't.

I am lucky, I was on it as part of my ivf regime up until 12 weeks, and because I hemorrhaged the day before and have a sympathetic gp, she agreed not to take me off it while the sch was there as she thought it was a bad idea to change anything that might make my pregnancy more precarious.

In the U.S.A it seems to be more common to prescribe progesterone for sch.

I am very lucky with my gp though, it is down to her (and not the consultant at the hospital) that I am also on a long term low dose antibiotic to prevent premature labour due to UTIs. The nhs consultant refused, but my gp went above and beyond to speak to microbiologists to confirm appropriate antibiotic, and in the end when I saw a private consultant, he immediately said I should be on it as well.

Really is rather hit and miss over here.

Wow, your gp sounds fab! Glad your getting good support-seems hard to come by with sch in uk.

 

[Ferreroroche]

Will they prescribe progresterone in the UK? I've heard it helps, but no ones mentioned it?

Some will, some won't.

I am lucky, I was on it as part of my ivf regime up until 12 weeks, and because I hemorrhaged the day before and have a sympathetic gp, she agreed not to take me off it while the sch was there as she thought it was a bad idea to change anything that might make my pregnancy more precarious.

In the U.S.A it seems to be more common to prescribe progesterone for sch.

I am very lucky with my gp though, it is down to her (and not the consultant at the hospital) that I am also on a long term low dose antibiotic to prevent premature labour due to UTIs. The nhs consultant refused, but my gp went above and beyond to speak to microbiologists to confirm appropriate antibiotic, and in the end when I saw a private consultant, he immediately said I should be on it as well.

Really is rather hit and miss over here.

Wow, your gp sounds fab! Glad your getting good support-seems hard to come by with sch in uk.

Indeed. But I fought too hard for this baby to let unsympathetic medics shrug it off.

I am fighting through every avenue possible to give this boy the best chance. I'm just a control freak, and quite frankly don't want to lose a second child and go through a 5th round of ivf.

 

[Yo_Yo]

Don't blame you honey. I hate it when doctors treat you like it doesn't matter

 

[mara16jade]

Sorry you're spotting browning again Yo-yo.

Ferreroroche - if you go to User CP and on the left-hand side click the "signature" link, you can add a ticker there. You need to go to a ticker website (click on any of our tickers and it'll take you there), set it up, and at the end it'll give you the code to put in your signature here on BnB.

I asked early on about progesterone, and my doctor was against it completely. She said it was a very controversial topic in obstetrics, and could not recommended me to use it, and advised me to stay away from "at home self-diagnosing".

Shinona - welcome to the board. Hope you're doing ok. Ask any questions you have, there's lots of nice ladies on this thread.

 

[shinona]

Thanks for all the thoughts. Apparently magnesium is v common in Germany but I've never heard of it at home.

thanks for all the comments and sorry we're all going through this x