Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[Mom3boys]

Really hoping I don't have to do it again an this is the one

While I was taking it no problems at all felt good on it, got positive opk tues, weds (felt twinges ache left side) Thursday still positive woke feeling like that, still positive Friday

Think your right if I do take it again def gonna lower the dose

 

[BeautifulD]

What dose did you take?

 

[Mom3boys]

What dose did you take?

I did days 2-6, 80mg 80mg 120mg 120mg 160mg

 

[IceQueen86]

What dose did you take?

I did days 2-6, 80mg 80mg 120mg 120mg 160mg

Maybe you should stick to 120mg or 80mg only, cos i think there's no point for you to take a bigger dose if it makes you feel like crap. That means your body is not fine with it Maybe you don't even need to take it anymore if you get lucky now

 

[IceQueen86]

Meli H - did you start with your soy? which days and how many mg?
PS! jealous at your charts, wish i was so regular with early O ...

 

[Meli_H]

Meli H - did you start with your soy? which days and how many mg?
PS! jealous at your charts, wish i was so regular with early O ...

Hi Ice,

I did some more research and rethought my decision for 2 reasons (I know, I’m a big wimp lol!): 1. I have fibrocystic breasts, just had a mammogram, and was told to return for follow up xrays because they found something they want to take a closer look at in my left breast, and 2. I just had an ultrasound couple weeks ago and they found a small follicular cyst.

So, based on those reasons, I’m going to give the progesterone cream a chance, I ordered it last week and hope to get it soon, FX that it works for me! I will give the cream a chance for 2 months, if still no bfp, then I will get brave and try out the soy in lower dosages (prob start on 80mgs). BUT, hopefully, maybe won’t need to go there!

Thanks again for your information! I really appreciate it!

Oh yah, my early o last cycle, caught me by surprise cuz I usually o CD14, egg was sneaky this time and came early, I have a feeling I missed it and BD’d too late…

 

[IceQueen86]

That sneaky egg LOL ..i'm always scared to miss my egg since i have no idea when i ovulate..it sucks. But about the soy, you are not a wimp i think these are 2 very good reasons to stay away from soy...you made the right desicion. FX that your xrays and everything goes well and of course that NPC would bring you your bfp

 

[Meli_H]

That sneaky egg LOL ..i'm always scared to miss my egg since i have no idea when i ovulate..it sucks. But about the soy, you are not a wimp i think these are 2 very good reasons to stay away from soy...you made the right desicion. FX that your xrays and everything goes well and of course that NPC would bring you your bfp

that totally sucks to not know when you ovulate !!

Thanks so much! GL to u!

And I will let you know if I have to come back here in a couple more mos if no bfp

 

[Mom3boys]

What dose did you take?

I did days 2-6, 80mg 80mg 120mg 120mg 160mg

Maybe you should stick to 120mg or 80mg only, cos i think there's no point for you to take a bigger dose if it makes you feel like crap. That means your body is not fine with it Maybe you don't even need to take it anymore if you get lucky now

Yeah think that 160 a bit much for me if I do I'm gonna stick with the 80 maybe add 120 last day but really hoping I don't need to, caved today an did a test was a faint line I'm telling myself it's an evap it's too early yet, silly silly me why do I do it

 

[roopachoo]

Hi Ladies, sorry to butt in the middle of all your conversations. It's been a while since I was on this GREAT thread, about 2 and a half years ago! It got me pregnant back then, and I have a seriously amazing little girl to thank it for. Hoping it can do the same for me again.

Been TTC #2 for 6 months now, had a BFP last month just before AF was due which turned into AF the very next day

I think my problem is that I'm ovulating much later than I was pre-pregnancy at around CD20 (previously CD14) on a 30/31 day cycle and so my womb lining quality is not viable. I got pregnant with #1 on my first cycle with soy and b vits so thought this time round it was a sure bet. Can anyone offer any insight into why my ovulation has moved up so much, and why the soy and b vits do not seem to be working this time?

On my reasoning the B Vits should be setting up a healthy corpus luteum to produce the progesterone for the luteal phase. I no longer breastfeed but I would have thought the soy would give the estrogenic boost needed in the presence of any prolactin. I had a positive OPK on CD17. On CD20 today and still no temp spike, which makes me think I'm out for this cycle again. How could I have had a positive OPK, HSO cervix, but no temp rise yet??

I'm on 50mg B Complex. Soy: 80mg CD3-4, 120mg CD5, 160mg CD6, 200mg CD7

 

[BeautifulD]

All I could suggest is maybe start a day earlier so days 2-6 and maybe start on a higher dose say 160, 160, 160, 200, 200 see how you go with that?

Good luck!!! xx

 

[roopachoo]

Thanks for the suggestion! If I remember correctly the earlier dose gives more follicles whilst the later dose gives a stronger egg? Do you think giving the follicles a kick start earlier may move my O down a bit??

 

[BeautifulD]

Yeah maybe, I've tried all sorts and the one I found worked best for me are days 2-6. 3-7 I didn't o until cd20+ most months

 

[roopachoo]

Yeah maybe, I've tried all sorts and the one I found worked best for me are days 2-6. 3-7 I didn't o until cd20+ most months

Aaah that's interesting... how about starting on CD1? So when were you Oing when taking it days 2-6? Interesting that one day can make such a difference.

 

[IceQueen86]

I had a positive OPK on CD17. On CD20 today and still no temp spike, which makes me think I'm out for this cycle again. How could I have had a positive OPK, HSO cervix, but no temp rise yet??

I'm on 50mg B Complex. Soy: 80mg CD3-4, 120mg CD5, 160mg CD6, 200mg CD7

Hi roopachoo it's very possible to get all : +opk, HSO cervix and even EWMC and still not O. That means your body was gearing up to O but for some reason it didn't happen. One cycle i geared up to O like that 3 times i think before i finally O'd and got my temp shift.

 

[roopachoo]

Hi roopachoo it's very possible to get all : +opk, HSO cervix and even EWMC and still not O. That means your body was gearing up to O but for some reason it didn't happen. One cycle i geared up to O like that 3 times i think before i finally O'd and got my temp shift.

Oh dear IceQueen, what a bummer.

My hormones are def out of kilter because of the pregnancy. I only stopped BFing 2 months ago after 18 months, and my periods took a whole year to return after giving birth. I'd really like to get the Day 3 and 21 hormone testing done, but not sure how likely it is on our health service in the UK.

Has the soy helped your cycle?

 

[roopachoo]

Yeah maybe, I've tried all sorts and the one I found worked best for me are days 2-6. 3-7 I didn't o until cd20+ most months

Can I ask what dosage worked for you?

I see you're 21 weeks- how exciting- I remember being so thrilled at that stage as you're nearing the time that most hospitals consider your little bubby viable for life outside the womb... not that we want to see them for another 19 weeks though! But still comforting to know nonetheless

 

[IceQueen86]

Oh dear IceQueen, what a bummer.

My hormones are def out of kilter because of the pregnancy. I only stopped BFing 2 months ago after 18 months, and my periods took a whole year to return after giving birth. I'd really like to get the Day 3 and 21 hormone testing done, but not sure how likely it is on our health service in the UK.

Has the soy helped your cycle?

My hormones have been messed up since i stopped bcp 1,7 years ago. Some months ago i finally got my AF back and i do ovulate but i have super long cycles. My last 3 cycles have been 39, 54 and 46 days long. And in these cycles i O'd on CD 26, 37 and 33. So not sure how much Soy helped me. Last month i O'd 4 days earlier, this is my second round on soy, i'm CD22 and still waiting to O. I think i need more than just a soy to get shorter and regular periods.

Is CD21 test ovulation test? Do you know when you might O? Because if you ovulate after CD21 then you will get false results and doc will tell you that you do not ovulate.

 

[BeautifulD]

Yeah maybe, I've tried all sorts and the one I found worked best for me are days 2-6. 3-7 I didn't o until cd20+ most months

Can I ask what dosage worked for you?

I see you're 21 weeks- how exciting- I remember being so thrilled at that stage as you're nearing the time that most hospitals consider your little bubby viable for life outside the womb... not that we want to see them for another 19 weeks though! But still comforting to know nonetheless

Well I took a number of things due to recurrent pregnancy loss. I was taking 300mg Co Enzyme Q10 (for egg quality) and low dose aspirin initially I was taking this for circulation and lining quality but that was added to my rpl protocol. I truly believe those two things are the things that helped me to ovulate earlier. I did 2-6 120 120 160 160 200 and I ovulated on CD10

My previous pregnancy I wasn't taking any of the other things. I took soy 2-6 200mg and didn't ovulate until cd 18 and had over stimulated. I had four 3cm enlarged follicles sadly we lost her at 9 weeks... She had turners syndrome and I really think that had something to do with my egg quality... I'm rambling a bit sorry lol.

I'm soooo excited, 2 weeks 6 days until V day :yippe:

 

[pinkylisa28]

Beautifuld when did you take the co enzyme?how long for?i took soy cd3-7 and miscarried so thinking of changing the days and maybe the dose but thinking about taking the co enzyme aswell