Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[vaniilla]

I won't be taking soy again and really wish I hadn't taken it last cycle now, it turned my 28 day cycle into a 21 day one

hopefully it works for everyone else though.

 

[BeautifulD]

They dont really reccomend to take if you have a regular cycle... just like they wouldnt reccomend clomid for a woman with regular cycles

 

[vaniilla]

I have started having regular cycles because of metformin but I still don't ovulate on my own which is why I took it, my fs is making me lose weight before he'll prescribe clomid.

 

[Smithy93]

I am keen to try soy iso is it worthwhile ??

 

[BeautifulD]

I would say so yes. This little man is a soy baby

 

[NDTaber9211]

I had no luck with soy last cycle and am trying it again this one. It is looking like I might have an anovulatory cycle thought so I'm not sure the soy is working for me.

 

[Meli_H]

Ice,
awwww..so sorry to see that the stupid witch showed up

Nichole!!!

omg! I think I may be in the same anovulatory boat as you!!!

I’m kind of freaking out because I just recently found this “Details” feature in FF, in the “Fertility Analyzer” under “Luteal Phase”. It says:

“Your temperature seems to fluctuate more than usual. When temperatures fluctuate a great deal, it is usually due to inconsistencies in temperature taking methods. Make sure you are taking your temperature at the same time every day, when you first wake up, after a solid block of sleep, and with a BBT thermometer. If you are doing all this and are still getting rocky temperatures, you can try taking your temperature vaginally. Some women notice more stable temperatures when taking their temperature vaginally.
Temperatures can also fluctuate a great deal when you are not ovulating, or when you have delayed ovulation. If you are taking your temperatures accurately and are still having large temperature fluctuations and no clear ovulation pattern, then this might be the case”.

Well, my fluctuations are not due to inconsistencies in temp taking methods and times. I’m pretty consistent, so I have to surmise that these fluctuations are due to an anovulatory cycle!!! So then I looked back at all my other cycles, and I found one more (Jan 5) that FF had flagged the same way!!! Granted, this current cycle looks WAY more rocky than the Jan one, but I don’t know. Thank God I have a previously scheduled appt this afternoon with my ob gyn to discuss my endometrial biopsy results, or I would be going OUT OF MY MIND.

 

[IceQueen86]

Looks like my AF is finished already, i got my RRL tea so i will start drinking it today...excited!
Do not freak out about your temps. What FF means about rocky temperatures - some women temps jump like crazy where before O and post O temps are almost the same so its very hard to confirm O but on your charts you can clearly see O because your LP temps are so much higher than pre O temps.

 

[Meli_H]

Looks like my AF is finished already, i got my RRL tea so i will start drinking it today...excited!
Do not freak out about your temps. What FF means about rocky temperatures - some women temps jump like crazy where before O and post O temps are almost the same so its very hard to confirm O but on your charts you can clearly see O because your LP temps are so much higher than pre O temps.

Ice,

Interesting...thanks for the info about rocky temps!

well, I had my appt to follow up last week's biopsy.

My ob gyn has prescribed birth control pills for me in an effort to normalize my hormones. In addition to hypothyroidism causing weight gain and fatigue, it can also cause secondary infertility and miscarriages. So the birth control is for 2 reasons: to try to normalize my hormones, and to avoid pregnancy until my thyroid levels have been optimized.

Once my thyroid is working correctly, she will then do a hysterosalpingogram.
If my spotting continues, she will then prescribe progesterone.

So that’s the plan!

 

[IceQueen86]

Ice,

Interesting...thanks for the info about rocky temps!

well, I had my appt to follow up last week's biopsy.

My ob gyn has prescribed birth control pills for me in an effort to normalize my hormones. In addition to hypothyroidism causing weight gain and fatigue, it can also cause secondary infertility and miscarriages. So the birth control is for 2 reasons: to try to normalize my hormones, and to avoid pregnancy until my thyroid levels have been optimized.

Once my thyroid is working correctly, she will then do a hysterosalpingogram.
If my spotting continues, she will then prescribe progesterone.

So that’s the plan!

Birth control pills? You sure you wanna go for it? What docs won't tell you is that birth control is only a temporary fix and it won't fix the root of the problem. BCP will stop you from ovulating and you are not going to have a real period. It's all synthetic hormone what actually will make things worse for you, because your body will stop producing hormones itself like it should naturally. It will make your hormone imbalance worse.

I had mid-cycle spotting years ago (probably cos i lost weight) went to see a doc got tested everything was fine. Doc gave me bcp, while i was on it i had perfect 28day cycles with no mid cycle spotting. And you can see now when i stopped taking them 1,5 years ago my cycles were 100 times worse than they were before i started taking bcp. I didn't ovulate for 8 months and i had constant everyday spotting for like 3-4 months and no periods. And i'm still struggling with regulating my cycles and ttc.

You really need to think about it. Maybe there's some other option for you.

 

[BeautifulD]

I believe my issues were due to the bcp, I wont ever take it again thats for sure! X

 

[Meli_H]

Ice & BeautifulD,

Argh!! You make good points. How long were you on bcp?

 

[BeautifulD]

I was on bcp for about 7 years x

 

[IceQueen86]

I was on it like 4 years and i will never touch it again...
Meli i wanted to ask that when you first started drinking RRL tea, did you get some short mild cramping?

 

[hopefulmom2]

I was put on BCP when I was 14 years old, I stopped taking it the year I was due to be 22, I was on it roughly for 7 years, and It took me and my ex husband 15 months of trying to get pregnant, on the month I was due to go have a test done to see if I had a blockage in my tubes was the month I fell PG. they did all kinds of other tests first, blood work and exams and he done a full SA and we just gave up and let nature take its course. I didnt do opks or temping or charting.

I want to wish all of you lovely ladies good luck in your Baby making journey and I know most of you are getting close to having baby or getting pg. Sending out tons of baby dust your way.
PS i will still talk this thread I have been following it since April 2012, all of you ladies seem like you would make great parents and I hope you all get blessed and your arms full of a little bundle of joy.

 

[Meli_H]

Ice and Beautiful D and Hopeful,

Thanks so much for ur input. U have made me start rethinking the bc portion of the plan. Goid thing I haven't started taking it.

 

[BeautifulD]

Good luck Meli... whatever you decide xx

 

[minuet]

Yes please really research both sides of the birth control issue. I have hormone issues too but I will NEVER touch birth control because it isn't going to fix anything. Like the others said, it'll only worsen the problem.
The key is to get at the root of the problem and find a solution for that. If it's hypothyroidism, surely there is something better out there to address it than just a BC bandage?
Maybe you could get a second opinion.

 

[hopefulmom2]

Happy Mother's Day to all of the wonderful Mommies and mommy to bes and those ttc!!!!

 

[Visje]

Sorry if these questions have been asked already. I just came off the pill, and I don't think my ovulation has started yet. I am very curious about isoflavones. So,

-Do I need to wait for my period to start before using them? Or can I just start using them for 5 days?
-I'm vegan, so I eat as many soy products as the average vegan, which is more than the average person. So would eating soy products outside of the 5 day window interfere with the effectiveness of the isoflavones?