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[Meli_H]

My temp dropped today and I feel the witch cackling in the corner. As if that’s not bad enough, I slept horribly wrong last night and my neck/right shoulder and arm are so sore. I can barely move them.

In the meantime, I need to figure out my plan for next cycle. I am scheduled for an endometrial biopsy (to search for polyps, in an attempt to find out the reason for my spotting throughout the luteal phase) next Weds, which, according to FF, I should be CD7. My o day will probably be 7 days later. I don’t know how long I will bleed from the procedure, and I read that you can’t BD until the bleeding stops. What I need to figure out, is if I should take the soy isoflavones again or not. I don’t want to take the soy and suffer through the side effects, and then not even be able to BD, in effect, having taken the soy for nothing. Not just because of the daily side effects, but because I don’t want to take soy for too long because of the possible long term side effects…If I DO decide to take the soy, I need to take it starting CD3, which will be here soon. Or, maybe just count myself out for the next cycle and start ttc the following one?

How’s everyone else doing?

 

[IceQueen86]

Ice,

the raspberry leaf tea is called Fu Pen Zi in chinese. Do you have a Chinatown where you live? I also want to buy safflower (Hong Hua) and apricot seed (Tao Reu) herbs for blood stasis/stagnant uterus. I'm realizing that I need to find my way to Chinatown stat lol!

The only thing different with my current cycle, and all previous cycles are my high temps. I usually don't get sore bbs, sometimes get cramps 2-3 days before af, but not always. I did get a horrible headache on CD10, but I'm thinking that maybe I didnt drink enough water that day and was dehydrated.

That sounds like a good plan, to test your theory and start taking the maca again and seeing if your temps level off again.

I agree with Minuet here that soy can give you higher temps. I see you had a temp drop today but your temp is still high, so there's still hope
How are you feeling today?

I don't think they have a china town here but i found some organic raspberry leaves , they might be dried too not sure, anyways i was thinking about buying that one, it's a 1lb bag. Not sure if i asked you already but did you see the difference in your cycle since you have been drinking it?

Today i had another flat temp, it must be maca, since i decreased my dose back to what i took when i first started taking it, my temps have not been jumping around like crazy or maybe my hormones starting to balance finally

Just saw your new post - sorry about your shoulder and arm, that must really suck, gosh! You need some massage from your man If you still might be bleeding around your O time and can't BD , then i would skip the next cycle soy. If you might not be able to BD then it would be pointless. Wait until the cycle after that.

 

[Meli_H]

Hi Ice,

I think the difference that I can see in drinking the herbal tea is that when af comes, it’s red blood/spotting. Before, I used to start out with brown spotting for the first few hours. Now, it’s red. I read that’s a good sign.

I hear good things about the maca, I may look into that if no bfp in the next couple of months.

I am definitely going to get a massage tonight! And I’m thinking that this month I will take a break from the soy due to the biopsy.

And I’ve also decided that from now on, I will only temp from CD8 until I confirm o. I just have too many anxiety and stress temping throughout the tww, esp the last few days of it, and especially when I have picture perfect charts!!

 

[IceQueen86]

Oh yeah that's what i have, i spot brown 2 days before and 2 days after AF. Before when my hormones were balanced, i started spotting little brown and then 1 hour later full AF came.

You should def check out that maca.You can read about it a lot online.

Charting in tww is awful. I've decided to stop temping after O too. Like you said the last days of tww are the worst

Waiting to see your today's temp, any good news??

 

[NDTaber9211]

I think I might try maca too if I don't get a bfp with soy in the next few months.

 

[Meli_H]

Oh yeah that's what i have, i spot brown 2 days before and 2 days after AF. Before when my hormones were balanced, i started spotting little brown and then 1 hour later full AF came.

You should def check out that maca.You can read about it a lot online.

Charting in tww is awful. I've decided to stop temping after O too. Like you said the last days of tww are the worst

Waiting to see your today's temp, any good news??

Ice,

I saw an improvement within a cycle once I started drinking the tea. And I will definitely research the maca to add to my arsenal.

yes, the last days of temping during the tww are the WORST! I stopped temping because I know af is around the corner, so why bother. I slept in today until the alarm went off and it felt so nice!

 

[Meli_H]

I think I might try maca too if I don't get a bfp with soy in the next few months.

I may do the same, but first I suppose the prudent thing to do is to make sure that it doesnt clash or contraindict with all the stuff I'm already taking. I think I rattle sometimes

 

[IceQueen86]

Meli - Sorry that your AF showed up Have you made up your mind about this cycle plan?

 

[Meli_H]

Meli - Sorry that your AF showed up Have you made up your mind about this cycle plan?

Hi Ice,
No, I'm still not sure what I will do! I alternate between both options. Maybe I should just flip a coin?!!

so do you think you o'd last week?

 

[IceQueen86]

Meli - Sorry that your AF showed up Have you made up your mind about this cycle plan?

Hi Ice,
No, I'm still not sure what I will do! I alternate between both options. Maybe I should just flip a coin?!!

so do you think you o'd last week?

You have to make up your mind fast if you still want to take soy
I think i O'd yesterday. I had a big temp spike this morning Now have to buy my raspberry leaf tea. Forgot to ask you, how many tsp of tea do you put in 1 cup of water?

 

[Meli_H]

Meli - Sorry that your AF showed up Have you made up your mind about this cycle plan?

Hi Ice,
No, I'm still not sure what I will do! I alternate between both options. Maybe I should just flip a coin?!!

so do you think you o'd last week?

You have to make up your mind fast if you still want to take soy
I think i O'd yesterday. I had a big temp spike this morning Now have to buy my raspberry leaf tea. Forgot to ask you, how many tsp of tea do you put in 1 cup of water?

I know, I need to make up my mind no later than tomorrow night!! (I wanted to take it CD3-7).

Yay to the o!! FX you caught the egg!!!

I measure out the raspberry tea by handfuls (that's how they showed me in the chinese herbal store lol)! 1 handful for every cup of water.

 

[NDTaber9211]

I'm out, I started spotting today. I am trying not to be sad but I can't help it . I was holding on to a little bit of hope... Please don't let this upcoming cycle be anovulatory.

 

[minuet]

I think i O'd yesterday. I had a big temp spike this morning Now have to buy my raspberry leaf tea. Forgot to ask you, how many tsp of tea do you put in 1 cup of water?

You had a great spike! Looks like definite ovulation to me.



I maybe ovulated yesterday as I had a big temp spike today also. However, I've had spikes many a time before so I'm not going to get my hopes up until it stays up a few days.
Plus with hubby's chemo starting, we last DTD Sunday night, so it'd be a stretch with O on Thursday especially since I didn't see any EWCM back then.

 

[minuet]

I'm out, I started spotting today. I am trying not to be sad but I can't help it . I was holding on to a little bit of hope... Please don't let this upcoming cycle be anovulatory.

So sorry honey

 

[IceQueen86]

I'm out, I started spotting today. I am trying not to be sad but I can't help it . I was holding on to a little bit of hope... Please don't let this upcoming cycle be anovulatory.

Sorry

 

[IceQueen86]

I think i O'd yesterday. I had a big temp spike this morning Now have to buy my raspberry leaf tea. Forgot to ask you, how many tsp of tea do you put in 1 cup of water?

You had a great spike! Looks like definite ovulation to me.



I maybe ovulated yesterday as I had a big temp spike today also. However, I've had spikes many a time before so I'm not going to get my hopes up until it stays up a few days.
Plus with hubby's chemo starting, we last DTD Sunday night, so it'd be a stretch with O on Thursday especially since I didn't see any EWCM back then.

FX that you did O

 

[minuet]

No temp this morning Hubby was up a lot last night so I couldn't do it.
I'm also bleeding. I had bleeding in the middle of my cycle last month for one day when hormones seemed to be fluctuating, so I hope that is just it and not something strange from the ultrasound and pap.

 

[IceQueen86]

No temp this morning Hubby was up a lot last night so I couldn't do it.
I'm also bleeding. I had bleeding in the middle of my cycle last month for one day when hormones seemed to be fluctuating, so I hope that is just it and not something strange from the ultrasound and pap.

Ahhh im so sorry that really sucks

 

[minuet]

No temp this morning Hubby was up a lot last night so I couldn't do it.
I'm also bleeding. I had bleeding in the middle of my cycle last month for one day when hormones seemed to be fluctuating, so I hope that is just it and not something strange from the ultrasound and pap.

Ahhh im so sorry that really sucks

No temp again today, and I'm STILL bleeding.

has anyone had a pap or transvag ultrasound kick start an early period or something?

I'm going to be calling my doctor in the morning.

 

[IceQueen86]

No temp again today, and I'm STILL bleeding.

has anyone had a pap or transvag ultrasound kick start an early period or something?

I'm going to be calling my doctor in the morning.

No , i had no bleeding at all not even spotting. Did you find out if your bleeding is normal?