Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[crazy84]

Hahaha it has taken me a few months to go ahead and finally try them! I am going to take 80,80,80,120,120 good luck to you!!

 

[Empathetikfae]

Thanks! You too! Looks like we are both around the same time in our cycle!

 

[ssjad]

Hey guys, I started taking mine last night too. I am breastfeeding and not having periods, so hoping it'll either help me ovulate, or get af. I think I'll only do it once if nothing happens, so I'm taking 200mg for five days. FX we all get BFPs this month!!

 

[BeautifulD]

Ss be careful taking 200mg straight off. You could over stimulate and cause more problems

 

[sue_88]

My little girl is a Soy Miracle!! (used conceive plus too!)

I tried it for 1 cycle, the last natural cycle before taking clomid & it worked

Cycles 1-29 - natural
Cycle 30 - soy & conceive plus
Cycle 31 - clomid BINNED!!

Would be happy to hunt out my protocol for anyone if interested?

 

[BeautifulD]

I didn't realise little Millie was a Soy baby too Sue This little dude is a Soy baby

 

[sue_88]

I didn't realise little Millie was a Soy baby too Sue This little dude is a Soy baby

Yeah she is
We were quite disheartened at the thought of real fertility drugs do we thought we'd just give it a go.....and it worked

Took a good few months of research into it though to make sure my protocol was bomb proof!


Yay for soy babies!!

 

[Empathetikfae]

Oh man. I took 200mg last night for the first time too. What kind of problems can it cause? I guess I didn't do enough research!! Yikes!!!

 

[ssjad]

Ss be careful taking 200mg straight off. You could over stimulate and cause more problems

Thanks BeautifulD... can you tell me what problems that would cause? I thought I'd try the highest dose as I don't even get AF. I'd hate to think I'm stuffing up my chances!

 

[BeautifulD]

Its best that you slowly up your dose throughout your five days.... Just to be safe. Over stimulation can cause Ovarian hyperstimulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovarian_hyperstimulation_syndrome

I did a lot of research into taking it and took many months getting the dose just right. My first bfp on soy I took 200mg every day, that unfortunately ended in mc (nothing to do with soy, more egg quality) and I ended up with several huge follicles

May I suggest researching and taking co enzyme Q10 alongside... I believe this did wonders for my egg quality and got me where I am today.

ssjad... I don't think its recomended to take to start AF, can you get to your GP and get them to give you some progesterone (I think thats what it is they use) to help start af off.... then you can start a fresh with the soy.

I know how delicate our cycles can be and I really would hate for any of you to accidently muck them up more

 

[Empathetikfae]

Thanks for the info beautifulD!

 

[Missbx]

I'm still waiting for Af to try soy xx

 

[toffee87]

Can I join?

I'm starting soy this cycle. 150mg's CD1-5

Hoping it brings my ovulation day forward (in the 20's) and to get pregnant, obviously


xxx

 

[Empathetikfae]

Can I join?

I'm starting soy this cycle. 150mg's CD1-5

Hoping it brings my ovulation day forward (in the 20's) and to get pregnant, obviously


xxx

Good luck! Fingers crossed for you!!

 

[toffee87]

My little girl is a Soy Miracle!! (used conceive plus too!)

I tried it for 1 cycle, the last natural cycle before taking clomid & it worked

Cycles 1-29 - natural
Cycle 30 - soy & conceive plus
Cycle 31 - clomid BINNED!!

Would be happy to hunt out my protocol for anyone if interested?

Yes please x

 

[sue_88]

My little girl is a Soy Miracle!! (used conceive plus too!)

I tried it for 1 cycle, the last natural cycle before taking clomid & it worked

Cycles 1-29 - natural
Cycle 30 - soy & conceive plus
Cycle 31 - clomid BINNED!!

Would be happy to hunt out my protocol for anyone if interested?

Yes please x

Here you go hun............

Daily:
Prenatal (including 400mcg FA) (This was the Morrisons Own Brand prenatal)
1200mcg FA (so I was taking 1600mcg in total)
30mg Vitamin B6
75mg Aspirin

CD 2-6:
200mg Soy

CD 7:
80mg Soy

CD 8-9:
40mg Soy

I ovulated on CD 20, we BD'd on CD 16 & 18. I had EWCM on CD 17, and a few seconds of OV pain on CD20.
I used a heat pad every night on my tummy after OV. I had implantation bleeding from 12-14DPO although very scant. Just pink tinged CM.

I chose days 2-6 as this is what my fertility specialist told me I would need to take the clomid on. I gradually weaned off the daily tablets after BFP until I was just taking Folic Acid which I then stopped at 8 weeks.

I hope this helps!!

 

[toffee87]

Thanks how come you took soy for longer than 5 days? x

 

[sue_88]

Thanks how come you took soy for longer than 5 days? x

Bare with me for that answer. I have forgotten why... but I know that I said why on another forum Be back when I find it!!

 

[sue_88]

Thanks how come you took soy for longer than 5 days? x

Thanks how come you took soy for longer than 5 days? x

Bare with me for that answer. I have forgotten why... but I know that I said why on another forum Be back when I find it!!

Found the answer.

As I was basing my Soy intake exactly on the patterns of clomid I took the science from how clomid works and applied that to my cycle.

Clomid can be taken on CD's 2-6, 3-7, or 5-9. As my fertility doctor had already said my clomid would be 2-6 I started to look into what that meant.

Taking clomid on days 2-6 produces a few eggs from the ovaries (I have PCOS so we were aiming for a few eggs so at least one would be good and get released!), however when you take clomid on 5-9 is generall produces 1 really good mature egg.

So my reasons for just keeping the dose going slightly was to mature 1/2/3 of the eggs my body was reducing so that they were better quality than if I stopped straight at CD6.

Does that make sense?

 

[toffee87]

Yes thanks x