Spanking

[JASMAK]

Wow, it seems many of you who have 'tapped' your child do not baby proof. Is there a reason why babyproofing is not being done?? I am just genuinely curious.

this incident happened at another persons house and i dont cary plug guards around lol.

Oh, I see. I thought maybe this was the new thing with moms. lol I am a little older now, since my last baby. lol

 

[PeanutBean]

Wow, it seems many of you who have 'tapped' your child do not baby proof. Is there a reason why babyproofing is not being done?? I am just genuinely curious.

Read back at my previous posts. I've already explained at least twice, possibly more times. And I do babyproof, I just don't lock every drawer and cupboard, put every item we own on top of high shelves, bandage every corner of every piece of furniture on the offchance of a stumble, only buy Byron cuddly toys in case of an injury (most incidents of pain are caused by toys), put metal guards around anything that can't be moved or bandaged, or keep him in a playpen all day in case of any danger of him straying outside of the dedicated safe-play zone.

 

[BlackBerry25]

Well I clearly described it, so I cannot see ANYONE taking it that far out of context.

I do not believe in spanking.

But I think there are very few instances where you may need to tap a kids hand, not HIT, NOT SLAP, NOT HIT WITH AN OBJECT, NOT USE ANGER.

I was mopping my kitchen floor, my 7 month old who could crawl at 4 months old and walk perfectly at 9 months old, was in a bouncy seat, she climbed out of her seat and pulled the tea towel (which I have since removed) and opened the oven door.

I tapped her hand and explained to her in baby language not to touch the oven again.

She has never touched it or gone near it again and she is just over 24 months old.

 

[Boothh]

Wow, it seems many of you who have 'tapped' your child do not baby proof. Is there a reason why babyproofing is not being done?? I am just genuinely curious.

this incident happened at another persons house and i dont cary plug guards around lol.

Oh, I see. I thought maybe this was the new thing with moms. lol I am a little older now, since my last baby. lol

you come across as extremely patronising, i think you started this thread in order to start an agument with anyone who doesnt agee with you, we all have different ways of parenting and i respect everyone elses decision to do whats best for their child, i wont shove my view at anyone or try to catch them out when they voice their opinion, and as fo that last comment.. get over yourself.

 

[BlackBerry25]

And I am the same as PB.

I have chemicals up high, and knives up high, and I have my front door to the street locked, but I did not run out and by all these saftey gadgets, and I have never needed them. I think I am past the age now as she speaks and fully understands me.

 

[Boothh]

And I am the same as PB.

I have chemicals up high, and knives up high, and I have my front door to the street locked, but I did not run out and by all these saftey gadgets, and I have never needed them. I think I am past the age now as she speaks and fully understands me.

you dont need to explain yourself to someone who is deluded enough to suggest tapping a child in the situations we've described is child abuse. x

 

[JASMAK]

I am sorry that you all are taking offense. I was really asking questions to understand. I didn't know what tapping was. I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I stated the law, that was it. I am sorry some of you are being sensitive about it. The debate section is to debate. I undestand that ways of parenting are personal, so perhaps if this is hitting home too much, it isn't the place for you. I really just don't understand, espesially if it doesn't hurt, as most have said, why bother 'tapping'. KWIM? I don't get it. That is MY opinion. I don't think it is necessary. I started this debate from another thread...

 

[PeanutBean]

And I am the same as PB.

I have chemicals up high, and knives up high, and I have my front door to the street locked, but I did not run out and by all these saftey gadgets, and I have never needed them. I think I am past the age now as she speaks and fully understands me.

Yes I forgot about chemicals, we of course DO keep those on a high shelf in the bathroom we put up especially for the purpose.

 

[ALY]

yes i TAP my children if the need it and i dont see it as chils abuse

i thnk comparing a tap to child abuse is just wrong i know peole who have been abused and noway can you say a TAP is child abuse

my house isnt baby proof either they should be able to explore and go where they want now i have safty gates on sams room and one in the room as he goes in the room when i am cooking

but please dont say tapping a child is child abuse that out of order and trying to make us feel bad for how WE decide on how to raise OUR children xxx

 

[JASMAK]

Someone show me WHERE I said that *I* thought is was child abuse?!! For the love of GOD, you all are taking my words, twisting them, and saying mean things about me (that I am deluded etc). If you can't debate, then get out of the debate section. This is supposed to be a place where we can state our opinions and beliefs, and back things up with facts (the Canadian law). Tell me where I was out of line, please!

 

[PeanutBean]

I am sorry that you all are taking offense. I was really asking questions to understand. I didn't know what tapping was. I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I stated the law, that was it. I am sorry some of you are being sensitive about it. The debate section is to debate. I undestand that ways of parenting are personal, so perhaps if this is hitting home too much, it isn't the place for you. I really just don't understand, espesially if it doesn't hurt, as most have said, why bother 'tapping'. KWIM? I don't get it. That is MY opinion. I don't think it is necessary. I started this debate from another thread...

I'm not offended, it's kind of funny that someone would think something so little was child abuse and perhaps explains a lot about the misrepresentation of what child abuse really is. (I totally understand why Blackberry might be offended given her experiences.)

But I already explained why bother tapping so I'm not going to do it again. If someone can't comprehend something physical having a purpose other than pain or punishment then clearly it's best that person doesn't do anything physical with their child in this way.

 

[Dragonfly]

Theres actually a book out that describes how to whip your children from 4 month sold into submission. I seen it on a facebook group posted and I was horrified at abstracts from it! thats a book that needs banned and I know everyone can agree with me on that. I will have a look for it as i cannot remember the name of it.

 

[PeanutBean]

Someone show me WHERE I said that *I* thought is was child abuse?!! For the love of GOD, you all are taking my words, twisting them, and saying mean things about me (that I am deluded etc). If you can't debate, then get out of the debate section. This is supposed to be a place where we can state our opinions and beliefs, and back things up with facts (the Canadian law). Tell me where I was out of line, please!

Jasmak you very much gave the impression that you would consider it child abuse with:

Well, according to Canadian law, hitting a child under the age of 2 is against the law.

and

But you both agreed that tapping is hitting with less force. But, still a hit.

together with your not being able to understand a purpose for it.

I don't understand why you think differing in opinion is not knowing how to debate.

 

[PeanutBean]

Theres actually a book out that describes how to whip your children from 4 month sold into submission. I seen it on a facebook group posted and I was horrified at abstracts from it! thats a book that needs banned and I know everyone can agree with me on that. I will have a look for it as i cannot remember the name of it.

 

[JASMAK]

Someone show me WHERE I said that *I* thought is was child abuse?!! For the love of GOD, you all are taking my words, twisting them, and saying mean things about me (that I am deluded etc). If you can't debate, then get out of the debate section. This is supposed to be a place where we can state our opinions and beliefs, and back things up with facts (the Canadian law). Tell me where I was out of line, please!

Jasmak you very much gave the impression that you would consider it child abuse with:

Well, according to Canadian law, hitting a child under the age of 2 is against the law.

and

But you both agreed that tapping is hitting with less force. But, still a hit.

together with your not being able to understand a purpose for it.

I don't understand why you think differing in opinion is not knowing how to debate.

Again...WHERE does it say what you have so rudely accused me of???

Giving the IMPRESSION is not saying it, nor impy it.

I still do not understand the purpose of it. That is an OPINION. You all have been so rude to me, espesially you. I am sorry if I do not agree with what you are saying, but that is your problem, not mine. You can't expect everyone to agree with it. But you don't have to bully, belittle, and call me names.

 

[Phinners]

Do you agree with spanking your child, and if so, at what age is it appropriate. I do not spank, by I know people who do, and whether by coincidence or not, they all have rather aggressive children.

I hit my son once when he was about 2 1/2 and it utterly turned my stomach to hurt him, who the fuck did I think I was to bring a child into the world and then lose my temper and inflict pain on him?? I've never touched him since and he's now 12. I take away his cool stuff instead if he misbehaves. He now has a Visa debit card with his 'Under 19s' bank account and that the most treasured item he owns....that would go first if he stepped out of line.

I was bashed a lot as kid by my mother, and I see smacking, spanking or 'light taps' or whatever people try to call it these days as child abuse. In my mind if you hit your kid you are a child abuser.

off to read the rest of the posts now...

 

[ALY]

Someone show me WHERE I said that *I* thought is was child abuse?!! For the love of GOD, you all are taking my words, twisting them, and saying mean things about me (that I am deluded etc). If you can't debate, then get out of the debate section. This is supposed to be a place where we can state our opinions and beliefs, and back things up with facts (the Canadian law). Tell me where I was out of line, please!

yeah it is a debate thread and i will not get out of it, you have your rights and i have mine, now we dont agree but that doesnt mean that we should start saying mean things to each other

now i will give you an example of why i TAP samsam
samsam is been assessed for autisum and when he is having a bad day he will hit any one and everything that gets in his way he goes as far as to headbut the wall so yes i will give him a little tap and he will prob stop hitting but it wont change his mood,i couldnt put him in time out as that just makes him worse now from my point of view a tap is better for him that headbutting a wall

 

[Boothh]

Someone show me WHERE I said that *I* thought is was child abuse?!! For the love of GOD, you all are taking my words, twisting them, and saying mean things about me (that I am deluded etc). If you can't debate, then get out of the debate section. This is supposed to be a place where we can state our opinions and beliefs, and back things up with facts (the Canadian law). Tell me where I was out of line, please!

i dont live in canada

 

[Boothh]

and as someone who was brought up in house were parents fostered (and i myself was sexually abused by one of the teenagers they fostered) i know real child abuse, iv seen it and suffered it and tapping a child to get them to stop an action that is dangerous/potentially fatal IS NOT CHILD ABUSE.

 

[JASMAK]

My daughter has autism too. It can be very difficult can't it? I guess we have one thing in common.