Spotting week before AF every month - anyone else?

[_Nell]

MrsPttc - In that case I think your Dr has been really kind and considerate in giving you the choice.
I think like you say the HSG makes the most sense diagnostically and because it is less invasive. You can always try and refuse the treatment if it seems too painful. You can also ask for a smaller speculum (they have different sizes for different ladies and i've asked for a smaller one in the past!) I would think if you BD fine now, the speculum will be ok too .

Lucy - hi and welcome, I've not taken AC or soy so no experience sorry.

Curious, dependant on the unit of measure that prog level does seem a little low, BUT I've read that suppositary progesterone can sometimes not show up in our blood draws - so it might be your Dr is thinking, it's a touch low but I know i've prescribed the progesterone already to boost it.
I would just ask
I wouldn't up the dosage with your Dr agreeing, the same dose is given to women in IVF who would have no corpus luteum and zero progesterone levels of their own, so upping it is likely not needed. I think too much progesterone can be a problem too, you'll have an almighty crash for AF.

 

[happyshopper]

Welcome Lucy. You shouldn't take AC and soy together as they counteract each other. I've taken both and seen more improvement with soy than AC but it can make ovulation a bit late xxx

 

[lucyoz34]

Thanks girls, think I'll stick with the soy next cycle, to give it a fair chance, then see about doing something else after that. Can you get progesterone pessaries anywhere other than the doctors? I dont fancy having to wait months for a specialist appointment. Been trying for 7cycles post mc, and I'm nearly 35. The ticking clock is pounding in my head! x

 

[MrsHY]

Hello ladies
Welcome to all the newbies!
I'm 10dpo today and think AF will come tomorrow - my temp had started to fall this morning (although still above the coverline).
I had a blood test late afternoon at 7 dpo (spotted red blood in the evening of 6dpo), was convinced they'd find a progesterone deficiency, but nope - mine was in the upper end of normal at 65! From some reports I've read, that suggests there could even be two corpeus luteums pumping out progesterone - hence 2 eggs!
Have spotted small amounts of brown blood ever since that fresh red at 6dpo - so don't know what to think really. Am just fairly sure AF is coming tomorrow because I've never got past a 10 day LP with or without Clomid. Plus the brown spotting was a little heavier this morning which co-incided with the lowest temp I've had so far in my LP.
Bought two FRERS today but wish I hadn't - I just know that I'll wake up all excited tomorrow ready to use one - then take a temp below the coverline and see that AF has well and truly made her appearance...

Hope everyone else is well. x

 

[yum]

hhello ladies, been so long ! hope everyone is ok !

hs- wen r u goin on vacation ? have a great time ! i luv the strategy lol

nell- gud to knw abt spotting & howz ur ivf process goin on ? anything new?
gl !

mrshy- sorry abt all the spotting but hope its ib ! i was hoping for a low prog too but mine was high & my gyn thought i was pregs but i knew i wasn't..could be 2 eggs ! gl & fx 4r tmrw !

curios- thats gud news abt spotting ! yay ! wish my gyn wud just give it to me ! ur prog levl seems a little low..in an ovulatory cycle they like to see 10 or above but it could be the prog supposits ! totally with nell on this one !

lucy - welcome to the thread !

mrspttc- sorry abt all the confusions i'm exactly like u when it comes to pain & any gyn tests ..i had very mild vaginismus & had been to a therapist & she just told me its in my head & suggested some breathin techniques for relaxing & kegel xercises & only later i could bd completely..never shared this with anyone but just want to tell u, u r nt alone..the only sure way to find out abt endo is lap & it can be removed if any ( hope none of us has it though)..one of my frns got it done & she recovered real soon ! but i don't think u hav endo b/c most common symptoms wud be painful & heavy periods..many women say hsg is not really bad & u'll be given a otc muscle relaxant b4r procedure..as nell said, u can say no if its really painful..u can always ask for small spec..i was so worried 4r my pap & tvs but turned out ok ! watever u decide, v r here to support

afm, long story huh..i'm goin on vacation next tue(married 7 yrs but kinda our 4rst honeymoon) my af was due this tue or i felt its gonna be late on fri..wen on cd12,i decided to stop b6 as it made my cycle long & guess wat i strd spotting last tue & it was brown cm, little red blood now & then brown spotting i felt so devastated & din't fell like doing anything but cry & hence the absconding..got my af y'day eve..medium flow till now..
my temps were flat 4 days wen spotting but real high & fell below cl only y'day but i was @ my cousins & couldn't sleep..i din't wanted to temp this cycle as i'm goin on vac but just thought i'll do it this week just to see if my temps dropped & it rose to 98 today from 97.3..i'm so confused & feelin low right now i somehow hope its my thermo but ???
had cramps & couldn't sleep y'day night either ! my room is pretty warm, could this be the cause ? i'm hoping its nothing..really praying 4r low temps !any thoughts ladies !

 

[MrsHY]

Hi Yum
Where are you in your cycle now, how many dpo? And did you say your flow has now eased up? I would be secretly pleased if my temp stayed up - I'd be thinking that the AF was not AF but just early pregnancy bleeding or something! Do you know when you definitely ovulated?

As for me, well - I awoke to another day of a temp above the coverline - the first I've EVER had at 11 dpo. But, the spotting is now darker in colour (sorry TMI) and heavier, so I have a feeling it will be my last day and AF will come tomorrow.

Of course, I gave in to temptation and tested this morning - BFN on a FRER. The instructions said that 78% of pregnant women will show up as a positive in this timeframe, so I guess that's me out (which I probably suspected anyway given the increase in spotting).

Oh well, I'm SO chuffed that this cycle has been nearly normal for me with 100mg Clomid - OV a normal-ish time cd 17/18 and a 11 day LP. Beats my natural state - OV on day 25 and a 7-8 day LP!

x

 

[yum]

mrshy, sorry abt bfn & spotting ! if ur temp is above cl then u could still get bfp ! gl & fx ! u r not out yet !

i had medium flow (like regular af) on sun/mon but having real big clots today( i sometimes do on cd2/cd3) but not this big ! i'm hoping i'm not miscarring or its not chemical or somethin ! my temps came down today though..i changed the batt on my bbt thermo ! i can't tell 4r sure wen i o'd but got almost + on july3 & temp rise that day..so i'm guessing i o'd on july 2 but ff says diff..i also got another almost + on july 5 after a - on july 4 ! so confusing ! today is cd31 !

 

[MrsPTTC]

Hi Nell, yes he said if its too bad they'll stop & book me in for a lap.

Mrshy did your AF come?

Yum are you ok sweetie? Why do you feel dead & you're now WTT? Hope you're ok Thanks for sharing your problems, its nice to know someone whose gone through the same as me, makes me feel less of a freak lol . Is your sex drive very low? Mine is, I'm always so tired & never feel like it but force myself for baby making purposes!! x x

 

[MrsHY]

Hi all

Yum- same as what MrsPTTC says really - are you OK? We're here if you want to 'chat'.

My AF came today - boo! But I did get a 12 day LP in the end - a personal best! Sadly no changes to the spotting, but I have to admit, I'm starting to get less concerned about that since my progesterone came back normal. I'm of the mind that if my temp's still up, the spotting's light and it's predominantly brown (old blood), then a fertilised egg has got just as much chance of implanting as anyone else's. But ask me that in a few months time if I'm still TTC and I might have changed my mind again!

I now have a strategy which is keeping me sane and focussed - start cycle 2 of Clomid tomorrow. Will do five more cycles (so six in total) and then if I'm still not pregnant, will do IVF. I WILL be pregnant this time next year! It's the RULES!

xx

 

[MrsPTTC]

Hi all

Yum- same as what MrsPTTC says really - are you OK? We're here if you want to 'chat'.

My AF came today - boo! But I did get a 12 day LP in the end - a personal best! Sadly no changes to the spotting, but I have to admit, I'm starting to get less concerned about that since my progesterone came back normal. I'm of the mind that if my temp's still up, the spotting's light and it's predominantly brown (old blood), then a fertilised egg has got just as much chance of implanting as anyone else's. But ask me that in a few months time if I'm still TTC and I might have changed my mind again!

I now have a strategy which is keeping me sane and focussed - start cycle 2 of Clomid tomorrow. Will do five more cycles (so six in total) and then if I'm still not pregnant, will do IVF. I WILL be pregnant this time next year! It's the RULES!

xx

Ah shame AF came Mrs I think that's a very good strategy!! It's hard to believe but I think we're all just in the unlucky category that its taking a while to conceive & the spotting is *a coincidence* but I know I'd feel a lot better if I wasn't spotting!

Do any of you take Maca? Both DH & I do but we've been forgetting lately & I feel a bit less stressed not having to throw supplements down my neck! Not sure whether to stop it or not as been taking it since January x

 

[_Nell]

Yum - you sounds really stressed

MrsHY - Sorry AF came, but like you say good news about the LP

MrsPttc - Any idea how long you've got to wait for the HSG? My PCT have us call in on CD1 and then they try to get us in that cycle, if not we keep calling back each month until they fit us in.

Not much happening with me. Had my follow up with the consultant, think he's a bit out of touch with modern fertility tbh, not that i'm too worried because i'm fast realising he's just the 'face' of the clinic, the salesman if you like and it's someone else who does all the deciding on drugs, the actual procedures etc - it really IS like the wizard of oz

Of course they have not much to say other than, round 2 of IVF madam? I'm currently disappointed with UK clinics (or the 2 i've been to ) and have U.S envy, I don't think we get what we pay for here even as private - they won't even give me more crinone unless it's for an IVF cycle, but do think i need it, i have to go back to my GP. They're not so much fertility clinics wanting to investigate and treat fully, more just IUI and IVF kwikfits.

I'm not sure if i'm going to go for another IVF just yet or give my body a break for a while - my cycle seems a bit screwed up right now and I think I'll O after CD13 which is unusual for me. I've never seen an OPK as negative as it is now. I am also as dry as a bone and have no CM of any kind.

Almost excited to see what day I'll be re-united with my spotting after a 2month break, I'm hoping for 7dpo or beyond

 

[MrsPTTC]

Yum - you sounds really stressed

MrsHY - Sorry AF came, but like you say good news about the LP

MrsPttc - Any idea how long you've got to wait for the HSG? My PCT have us call in on CD1 and then they try to get us in that cycle, if not we keep calling back each month until they fit us in.

Not much happening with me. Had my follow up with the consultant, think he's a bit out of touch with modern fertility tbh, not that i'm too worried because i'm fast realising he's just the 'face' of the clinic, the salesman if you like and it's someone else who does all the deciding on drugs, the actual procedures etc - it really IS like the wizard of oz

Of course they have not much to say other than, round 2 of IVF madam? I'm currently disappointed with UK clinics (or the 2 i've been to ) and have U.S envy, I don't think we get what we pay for here even as private - they won't even give me more crinone unless it's for an IVF cycle, but do think i need it, i have to go back to my GP. They're not so much fertility clinics wanting to investigate and treat fully, more just IUI and IVF kwikfits.

I'm not sure if i'm going to go for another IVF just yet or give my body a break for a while - my cycle seems a bit screwed up right now and I think I'll O after CD13 which is unusual for me. I've never seen an OPK as negative as it is now. I am also as dry as a bone and have no CM of any kind.

Almost excited to see what day I'll be re-united with my spotting after a 2month break, I'm hoping for 7dpo or beyond

Hi Nell, they've said the same to me as they did to you! So I'll be calling CD1 and see what happens! I've had a word with my boss and told her what's going on so she's said it's fine for me to have time off whenever and also go in late for when I have my bloods, so hopefully it'll be next month...FX'd for us both! I'm confused though why you've had IVF before a HCG, I thought they explored everything before IVF? I've been thinking today and I'm annoyed with myself why I let the FS tell me opk'ing and temping were a waste time, I should've not be such a shrinking violet and stood up for what I believe in! Girl power and all that! x

 

[MrsHY]

Yum - you sounds really stressed

MrsHY - Sorry AF came, but like you say good news about the LP

MrsPttc - Any idea how long you've got to wait for the HSG? My PCT have us call in on CD1 and then they try to get us in that cycle, if not we keep calling back each month until they fit us in.

Not much happening with me. Had my follow up with the consultant, think he's a bit out of touch with modern fertility tbh, not that i'm too worried because i'm fast realising he's just the 'face' of the clinic, the salesman if you like and it's someone else who does all the deciding on drugs, the actual procedures etc - it really IS like the wizard of oz

Of course they have not much to say other than, round 2 of IVF madam? I'm currently disappointed with UK clinics (or the 2 i've been to ) and have U.S envy, I don't think we get what we pay for here even as private - they won't even give me more crinone unless it's for an IVF cycle, but do think i need it, i have to go back to my GP. They're not so much fertility clinics wanting to investigate and treat fully, more just IUI and IVF kwikfits.

I'm not sure if i'm going to go for another IVF just yet or give my body a break for a while - my cycle seems a bit screwed up right now and I think I'll O after CD13 which is unusual for me. I've never seen an OPK as negative as it is now. I am also as dry as a bone and have no CM of any kind.

Almost excited to see what day I'll be re-united with my spotting after a 2month break, I'm hoping for 7dpo or beyond

Hi Nell
Good to hear from you and you sound like you're in good spirits. It's so easy to let all this bullsh*t take over your life isn't it - and having a bit of a step back from it is really good.
Have a good cycle! PS - can you PM me when you get a chance about which fert clinics you're using because from memory you're in London, right? Any advice you have would be brill xx

 

[_Nell]

MrsPttc - You're right usually you'd have a HSG before IVF to check your uterus and tubes are fine. But i'd already had a hysterscopy which is more detailed than a HSG for checking the uterus but that doesn't check tubes and the private consultants were very happy with that.
So in theory my tubes could be blocked. But, the reason i'm having IVF is because I don't have many eggs left, the hope is that by harvesting a few they can pick a good one and try get me pg and maybe even freeze some for baby no. 2, before they disappear completely. With very low amh there is only a teensy tiny chance of a natural pregnancy, because although you're releasing an egg it's all out of whack timing wise due to hormones (for me it's released too early while the lining is still way too thin each month)
I'm having the HSG on the NHS because the NHS just do things one way and I want to join the waiting list for IVF with them as a safety net really, in case i'm not pg by the time I reach the top! We'll pay private for now but we don't have endless funds to throw at this.

MrsHy - I will PM you

 

[MrsPTTC]

Hi nell, oh I see, yes that all makes sense! Do they know why you don't have many eggs left, is it your age? Hope the HSG goes well & you have a better experience with the IVF next time! x

 

[_Nell]

Thanks MrsPttc - I'm not yet booked in but FX for next cycle for both of us.
The eggs thing is just one of those cruddy deals life throws sometimes , I'm only 31 but have the egg reserve of a 41yr old, so have been told to 'get a move on' like i'm not trying
Chemo and abdominal surgery can reduce you eggs but i've had neither so looks like I was just born with less.

 

[MrsPTTC]

Thanks MrsPttc - I'm not yet booked in but FX for next cycle for both of us.
The eggs thing is just one of those cruddy deals life throws sometimes , I'm only 31 but have the egg reserve of a 41yr old, so have been told to 'get a move on' like i'm not trying
Chemo and abdominal surgery can reduce you eggs but i've had neither so looks like I was just born with less.

Oh how crap! I hope my egg reserve is ok, though the doc didn't mention about any tests for that . Ah but I just remembered I've ordered a fertility test finally when I was shopping for opk's so will see what that says. For once in my life I won't be wanting another line ha ha x

 

[yum]

hello,
i'm much better now..my heavy,clotty af went to spotting y'day cd5..my temps went down too..thanks 4r asking ladies u guys r so sweeeet ! u uplift my spirits ! i hope this cycle wud be better !

mrshy- sorry abt af ! r u gonna continue with clomid ?

nell- gud luck with hsg & with everythin this cycle ? r u not on prog supp & any othr meds this cycle ?

mrspttc- my sex drive is kinda low..i mean i'm so concerned abt the spotting after bd in the second half of cycle..thats a mood killer..except that my sex drive is not bad..i wudn't say i have gud drive though ! gud luck with everythin !

now that i'm done with heavy af, i'm xcited abt my vacation..sometimes i can't help but think " if this cycle is gonna b as bad as last & if i made it worse with all b vits & herbs but i'm trying to push away those thoughts 4r now

have a gud weekend ladies !

 

[Sw33tp3a]

hi all. im new to actually ttc. this is my first time charting my cycle. i was as i thought usually on time till this cycle has me baffled. if i started one month on the 1st it would come next month on the 1st or 2nd. well ya didnt happen this cycle. this cycle started on the 18th of June. i have no idea when i ovulated. im on cd35. i had spotting light pink wouldnt have nown if i hadnt been looking for AF since im five days late and showing bfn's on hpt. this is only when i whipped tmi sorry. i thought ok finally here she is.this was at 3pm. ok went to the bathroom later and nothing and nothing since. was this IB dont know. dont even know when i ovulated. had ewcm twice this month once around the 1st and then a week ago again for a few days. so confused. will fine out tomorrow if i spot again. i could only imagine what its like to go for as long as some of you are. good luck ladies.

 

[MrsPTTC]

Sweetpea, you may have ovulated very late hence the long cycle, this has happened to me twice before. But then with your AF being very light, hmmm. And I know you got a faint line a while ago and now BFN's...Whatever has happened I hope you get it sorted!

Yum - I'm lucky I get no spotting after BD just low LOW sex drive and the Maca has done nothing to improve it. Maybe we need to spice up our I don't know!

xx