Zemlianika
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"Shea's heavily addicted and needs help".
For me, the 'her body, her baby, her choice' excuse doesn't really wash. Does that same principle apply to people who beat their children? Emotionally abuse them? Choose to take them rock-climbing in a poor carrying case with no protection?
And there are unhealthy people whos mum smoked around them. I have breathing problems , inhalers asthma. I had that from when I was a child. I also had several lung problems growing up and had lung damage on my lungs as a teen. And yes I smoked, was always passive smoking around my mum and gran before i decided to try one of theirs. My mum didnt mine me smoking. I think its rude when people say theres no damage to people, you may have got off scott free but some of us didnt. I didnt want that for my kids I was always ill as a child.no one is saying she is a bad mother, but eating one egg or smoking 7 a day is quite different.
its just a topic of debate. I find it interesting to see what people will and wont try to do for other people (eg their kids), its sociology and human psychology.
And people's reactions, certainly on here, are even more interesting to analyse
Do you have medical science that prove that? Your one egg, could kill you (chances are slim but its there) and really there is not enough medical science to prove that smoking has caused bad effects. YES, they say it CAN, thats it, because there are a lot of healthy people who parents both smoked.
Both mine smoked, they smoked around us at all times, hell id say they are chain smokers. But, I have no breathing issues, no health issues they say people get from smoking. I dont smoke, never smoked a day in my life. I'm also very athletic, and made good choices for myself.
Ive Just seen her on loose women,i think shes a lovely girl and obviously loves her children to pieces and for someone to presume otherwise is absolutly insulting.
Ive cut down from 20 - 2 and i am SO proud of myself.
Im getting a nicorette inhailer tommorow to kick the last 2 hopefuly by friday!
I quit cold turkey straight away when pregnant with oscar i thought women who smoked when pregnant were disgusting,and now i am in that situation in finding it extremelly hard, i feel terrible for presuming it was only chavs and selfish horrible people who smoked when pregnant.
Im trying my best and im proud of myself,and if someone implied to me i didnt love my children,well they can shove that comment up there arse quite frankly!
For me, the 'her body, her baby, her choice' excuse doesn't really wash. Does that same principle apply to people who beat their children? Emotionally abuse them? Choose to take them rock-climbing in a poor carrying case with no protection?
I think this is different, because we know 100% what effect this actually causes on kids, however, smoking is still wish-washy. Yes, its not good. But what about the air we breath in? Some places some of us live, the air may be worse than smoking. We get chemicals in our body daily, stuff we dont even think about.
The other day i was drinking what out of my tape, 3 hours later I found out we have a boil water advisory, am i bad mom for that stuff that may have not gotten cleaned from the water no.
Ive Just seen her on loose women,i think shes a lovely girl and obviously loves her children to pieces and for someone to presume otherwise is absolutly insulting.
Ive cut down from 20 - 2 and i am SO proud of myself.
Im getting a nicorette inhailer tommorow to kick the last 2 hopefuly by friday!
I quit cold turkey straight away when pregnant with oscar i thought women who smoked when pregnant were disgusting,and now i am in that situation in finding it extremelly hard, i feel terrible for presuming it was only chavs and selfish horrible people who smoked when pregnant.
Im trying my best and im proud of myself,and if someone implied to me i didnt love my children,well they can shove that comment up there arse quite frankly!
I have to say I agree with you that its ridiculous to suggest that someone doesnt love their child because they smoke whilst pregnant. Its not fair to even suggest that.
I cant say Id feel proud unless I had stopped completely because 2 a day is still harming your baby but at least you are trying. x
Ive Just seen her on loose women,i think shes a lovely girl and obviously loves her children to pieces and for someone to presume otherwise is absolutly insulting.
Ive cut down from 20 - 2 and i am SO proud of myself.
Im getting a nicorette inhailer tommorow to kick the last 2 hopefuly by friday!
I quit cold turkey straight away when pregnant with oscar i thought women who smoked when pregnant were disgusting,and now i am in that situation in finding it extremelly hard, i feel terrible for presuming it was only chavs and selfish horrible people who smoked when pregnant.
Im trying my best and im proud of myself,and if someone implied to me i didnt love my children,well they can shove that comment up there arse quite frankly!
I have to say I agree with you that its ridiculous to suggest that someone doesnt love their child because they smoke whilst pregnant. Its not fair to even suggest that.
I cant say Id feel proud unless I had stopped completely because 2 a day is still harming your baby but at least you are trying. x
I think Lydiarose should be very proud of herself... Cutting down from that many to 2 a day is brilliant!!
It's an addiction!
Not going to read through this whole thread but JUST SAYING - the photo doesn't show her whole body. It shows her face and that she is smoking. This photo could have been taken at any time.
After Loose Women i have no respect for her why would being "found out" suddenly make the health of your child more important. More like her career is so important or maybe im too cynical.
I think this is different, because we know 100% what effect this actually causes on kids, however, smoking is still wish-washy. Yes, its not good. But what about the air we breath in? Some places some of us live, the air may be worse than smoking. We get chemicals in our body daily, stuff we dont even think about.
After Loose Women i have no respect for her why would being "found out" suddenly make the health of your child more important. More like her career is so important or maybe im too cynical.
I'm cynical too then because this is how it all seems to me aswel