Ttc #3 over 35 - anyone else in the same boat??

[Dysan]

faithmum so sorry about your BFN. When is AF due? If not for a few other days it may still be early.

Yes I did temp yesterday and today but i need to go and get a better thermometer because I dont think it works great. Basically, I have been pulling the thermometer from my nightstand bringing it to my mouth without even moving from bed...and if I do it twice in a row the temps changes DRASTICALLY. For example, this morning first temp was 96.5 then right after that is was 95.7...basically like 20 seconds later. I dont think that's possible...i think that my thermometer does not work. So, I will go and get a BBT today and go from there. Hopefully, a few cycles will give me a good indication of my cycle, O, LP, etc. Obviously I am hoping to get my BFP this coming cycle but in the back of my head i know it is not likely since it is only cycle 3. I read that 50% of couples get pregnant first 4 cycles. Not sure how accurate this stat is?

faithmum how many cycles have you been ttc? I forgot if you mentioned it earlier? I personally will go to "ask for help" if nothing happens after my 6th cycle. I have a heavy history of thyroid problems in my family so I would want them to check that too after 6 cycles just in case.

 

[faithmum]

Thanks Dysan. This is CD13 for me and my cycles are so short (26 days) so I am nearly 100% sure I'm out. Of course I will always save room for a miracle.

I think that's a great idea to get a bbt thermometer. If you can, find one that will remember your last temp so on the days you want to go back to sleep you can.

I have an appt (first available) with a new gyn in May for fertility but she's not really a specialist. I don't really know who to turn to. My insurance won't cover any of it. DF's will cover it though - I just need to be added to his insurance.

I'm hoping neither one of us will need that because we will get our BFPs soon.

Are you starting the B6?

Hey girls - I'm looking for opinions. I think I'm ditching soy (tried it for 3 months) and I'm using primrose because the last month I had great CM with it. I will stay with CoQ10 because I have noticed a huge change in my energy levels now that I've been on it for a month. I was telling DF that my energy feels like it did when I was in my early 30s. AND....I think it's interesting that, if you look at my bbt chart my baseline levels (pre O) are all slightly higher than the previous month when I wasn't taking it. Just thinking about metabolic rate...I'm guessing that this may be an effect of the CoQ. Any thoughts? I will stay with B6 and progesterone (from CD 15 on) too.

Here's what I'm pondering: stay with baby aspirin? It sure made my last period way "clotty" and I have primary unexplained hypertension so I'm thinking it may be good for that too?? My accupunturist says to go off of it because it against Eastern philosophy but...most of what I take/eat is likely against easter philosophy.

Any other suggestions? I read about a lot of women trying Clomid. Thoughts? My cycles are normal and I appear to be ovulating (according to my temps).

Teas? Anybody try the red raspberry tea leaf or red clover?

 

[Bonnie1990]

Yes I did temp yesterday and today but i need to go and get a better thermometer because I dont think it works great. Basically, I have been pulling the thermometer from my nightstand bringing it to my mouth without even moving from bed...and if I do it twice in a row the temps changes DRASTICALLY. For example, this morning first temp was 96.5 then right after that is was 95.7...basically like 20 seconds later. I dont think that's possible...i think that my thermometer does not work. So, I will go and get a BBT today and go from there. Hopefully, a few cycles will give me a good indication of my cycle, O, LP, etc.

It could have to do with the placement in your mouth...that is something else i have found to try to be consistent with. same side-same place-mouth closed. i have had wacky mornings-i usually go with the highest.

Well everybody - thanks for the well wishes but 13 dpo and got a BFN with FMU. I know it's not over til AF gets here but I just feel I'm out this month. I'm not surprised because of the no CM this go around. I am a little worried about being 45 and hardly ever ever reading stories of natural conception. Do you think I used my last eggie at 44? It's a shame that resulted in a mc. Just need 1 (or 2) Fluffy eggs!!!! Wish me luck for April girls.

Bonnie - Girl you are busy today! Why was your water deemed unsafe? Sorry if you already mentioned why and I forgot. Thank goodness your friend salvaged her tube.

I am sure there are a few fluufy eggies in there yet! no worries!
as for the water-some computer software glitch caused some valves to unexpectededly shut and created a sudden pressure drop. schools released early. water got brownish-they had to test-took about 24 hrs for the all clear not to have to boil. DB did want to use it on the dishes so they piled up. lol

Sorry to hear about your friend. That must be devastating for her. Thank goodness she has a good friend like you
How did she know she had an ectopic?

Bonnie and Fluffy are we waiting until Friday?

She was having really bad pains that just wouldn't go away. this is the same person i spoke of regarding Dysan and all of the bleeding she had but not yet AF but still PG. i guess she called the doc with all the pain knowing something was off and because of the suspicion they called her in for an US. it was caught before her tube ruptured so that is good.

Thanks Dysan. This is CD13 for me and my cycles are so short (26 days) so I am nearly 100% sure I'm out. Of course I will always save room for a miracle.

I have an appt (first available) with a new gyn in May for fertility but she's not really a specialist. I don't really know who to turn to. My insurance won't cover any of it. DF's will cover it though - I just need to be added to his insurance.

I'm hoping neither one of us will need that because we will get our BFPs soon.

Hey girls - I'm looking for opinions. I think I'm ditching soy (tried it for 3 months) and I'm using primrose because the last month I had great CM with it. I will stay with CoQ10 because I have noticed a huge change in my energy levels now that I've been on it for a month. I was telling DF that my energy feels like it did when I was in my early 30s. AND....I think it's interesting that, if you look at my bbt chart my baseline levels (pre O) are all slightly higher than the previous month when I wasn't taking it. Just thinking about metabolic rate...I'm guessing that this may be an effect of the CoQ. Any thoughts? I will stay with B6 and progesterone (from CD 15 on) too.

Here's what I'm pondering: stay with baby aspirin? It sure made my last period way "clotty" and I have primary unexplained hypertension so I'm thinking it may be good for that too?? My accupunturist says to go off of it because it against Eastern philosophy but...most of what I take/eat is likely against easter philosophy.

Any other suggestions? I read about a lot of women trying Clomid. Thoughts? My cycles are normal and I appear to be ovulating (according to my temps).

Teas? Anybody try the red raspberry tea leaf or red clover?

i dont know much about the different supplements. the way i took coq10 was not good for my system and that is strange because i usually never have a reaction to anything. the baby aspirin is such a small amount unless it is negating your acupuncture i would take it. it helps in so many other ways too.

i thought clomid was only if you werent ovulating but i may be wrong.


afm-idk-i feel off today and slightly discouraged-like somehow i know this month didnt happen. i know its way too early to even say and i dont know why i feel this way. maybe because i am so tired and sore from all that i did yesterday and overwhelmed with all i have to do today yet--all i want to do is take a nap. ehh..its just one of those PMA out the Window kinda days.
and poor db---i kneed him in the back one to many times during the night and found him on the couch this am-poor guy

 

[faithmum]

Hey B - what's PMA stand for? Probably obvious but I'm slow. I can hardly believe that about your water situation. That makes for a lot of extra work too. Don't be discouraged girl - you have SO much going for you this month! When will you be testing? I'm keeping fx'd for you!

 

[marathongirl]

Thanks Dysan. This is CD13 for me and my cycles are so short (26 days) so I am nearly 100% sure I'm out. Of course I will always save room for a miracle.

I think that's a great idea to get a bbt thermometer. If you can, find one that will remember your last temp so on the days you want to go back to sleep you can.

I have an appt (first available) with a new gyn in May for fertility but she's not really a specialist. I don't really know who to turn to. My insurance won't cover any of it. DF's will cover it though - I just need to be added to his insurance.

I'm hoping neither one of us will need that because we will get our BFPs soon.

Are you starting the B6?

Hey girls - I'm looking for opinions. I think I'm ditching soy (tried it for 3 months) and I'm using primrose because the last month I had great CM with it. I will stay with CoQ10 because I have noticed a huge change in my energy levels now that I've been on it for a month. I was telling DF that my energy feels like it did when I was in my early 30s. AND....I think it's interesting that, if you look at my bbt chart my baseline levels (pre O) are all slightly higher than the previous month when I wasn't taking it. Just thinking about metabolic rate...I'm guessing that this may be an effect of the CoQ. Any thoughts? I will stay with B6 and progesterone (from CD 15 on) too.

Here's what I'm pondering: stay with baby aspirin? It sure made my last period way "clotty" and I have primary unexplained hypertension so I'm thinking it may be good for that too?? My accupunturist says to go off of it because it against Eastern philosophy but...most of what I take/eat is likely against easter philosophy.

Any other suggestions? I read about a lot of women trying Clomid. Thoughts? My cycles are normal and I appear to be ovulating (according to my temps).

Teas? Anybody try the red raspberry tea leaf or red clover?

Sorry about your BFN I know we will all get our BFP's it's just a matter of time. Of course I am like you in thinking we don't have a lot of that in the bank. It's funny because I think of the ladies who are 39 or 40 as being young!!!
That would be beautiful to take your vows in Vancouver! I lived there for 6 years then moved to California(Petaluma) and then moved to Victoria. I am Canadian but loved California.
I wouldn't do the Clomid if I were you as you are o'ing fine and it will only mess with your hormones. I think the coQ10 is good. Not sure about the aspirin. I might try the EPO for CM. I feel like I don't have tons of it. I mean it might seem like a weird question but do you have ewcm that comes out when you go to the toilet? I haven't gotten into the habit of checking the other way yet.
I have heard of red rasp leaf tea but not sure what it is for. I think you are doing well with what you have and maybe just add the EPO??

 

[faithmum]

Hi MG - I'm heading to the vitamin store here to check out the teas and will let you know if I find out anything. The month I did EPO I did have ewcm when I wiped. This month I checked internally as well and just had hardly anything all month. I'm going back to EPO and making sure I am drinking lots of water. DF is Canadian too. He says Vancouver is unlike any other place he's been too - sounds like a beautiful place to live.

I am hoping you will get your BFP this month and won't have to be concerned about ewcm!!

I agree about the age - I would feel SO young at 40 again!! Heck I FEEL young now so I have to get the number out of holding my chances up.

 

[Bonnie1990]

PMA is positive mental attitude.
I might try EPO too. I remember the day having tons of ewcm. Yes lots when I wiped and I hated that annoying wet feeling. Didn't know what it meant and didn't care then. Lol. I had it this cycle but not like the past.

 

[Fluffy83]

Hi girls

Just back from a busy day of retail therapy much needed!! We've had beautiful weather over the past few days which is not normal but the rain is coming back . Yes I've been busy this weekend with st paddys and mothers day too......haven't thought much about 2ww until today when I bought some frer tests and per-natal vitamins lol......then treated myself to some nail varnish and make-up lol......that'll not solve my appearance as much as surgery would

Faithmum don't give up yet.....13dpo may be a bit early so until arrives don't give up
Dysan that's a real strange cycle indeed! So AF only lasted heavy for 2 days! My cycles have gotten stranger some months coming really early, I used to be a 30-32 day and now for the past 4/5 months they've been 26-28 days! Funny how your body works!

Sometimes I wish we could have glass bodies so we could see what's happening in there lol!

You all live in beautiful places! I've only ever seen them on tv and they seem like stunning places to live!

Yes I agree that there's sure to be some this month......there just has to be

 

[marathongirl]

Hi girls

Just back from a busy day of retail therapy much needed!! We've had beautiful weather over the past few days which is not normal but the rain is coming back . Yes I've been busy this weekend with st paddys and mothers day too......haven't thought much about 2ww until today when I bought some frer tests and per-natal vitamins lol......then treated myself to some nail varnish and make-up lol......that'll not solve my appearance as much as surgery would

Faithmum don't give up yet.....13dpo may be a bit early so until arrives don't give up
Dysan that's a real strange cycle indeed! So AF only lasted heavy for 2 days! My cycles have gotten stranger some months coming really early, I used to be a 30-32 day and now for the past 4/5 months they've been 26-28 days! Funny how your body works!

Sometimes I wish we could have glass bodies so we could see what's happening in there lol!

You all live in beautiful places! I've only ever seen them on tv and they seem like stunning places to live!

Yes I agree that there's sure to be some this month......there just has to be

Bring on the BFP's!! I agree that we have to be some this month?I am glad that the tww seems to be going quite fast not that I want my life to just pass by.

 

[faithmum]

Good Night Ladies!! Had great accupuncture tonight. She did extra needles to help with blood flow. I fell asleep at least 4 times during the procedure.

Dreaming of BFPs.......

 

[Mom To 2]

Can someone help me out with Primrose? I know nothing about it?
And thanks everyone for the welcome, I have been on this thread before, but its been awhile and was just getting started.

 

[Mom To 2]

Oh and sorry faithmum about that BFN, but we are not out yet...

 

[Bonnie1990]

Good Night Ladies!! Had great accupuncture tonight. She did extra needles to help with blood flow. I fell asleep at least 4 times during the procedure.

Dreaming of BFPs.......

Oh I miss acupuncture. Could use a tune up right now.
Is it safe if your pg? Is that why you tested before your appt?

 

[Dysan]

good morning ladies!

Very excited as you all ladies are testing this week at one time or another. WE NEED BFPs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no pressure though...

I just wanted to mention the pre-seed that was discussed here before. I dont use it but i read plenty about it and it appears that it acts as the natural EWCM. I thought I should mention that because many of you were discussing low EWCM and it may help since you dont need to take it for a while nor anything like it...just use it at the right moment!

Dysan
Cycle 3 CD4

 

[Bonnie1990]

good morning ladies!

Very excited as you all ladies are testing this week at one time or another. WE NEED BFPs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no pressure though...

I just wanted to mention the pre-seed that was discussed here before. I dont use it but i read plenty about it and it appears that it acts as the natural EWCM. I thought I should mention that because many of you were discussing low EWCM and it may help since you dont need to take it for a while nor anything like it...just use it at the right moment!

Dysan
Cycle 3 CD4

Yes I have preesed and used it this month.
I was hesitant because we don't need any extra lube really and I was afraid it would be too much. (sorry for the tmi). But anyway I only use 2 to 2.5 not a whole tube and it was quite natural. I don't even think DB noticed

 

[faithmum]

Well the is here this morning. CD1 for me. I am not despairing yet and am going to remain hopeful that I've got LOTS of beautiful fluffy eggs and a BFP is coming soon. I am grateful my cycles are 26 days and in no time at all I'll be back in the 2ww....hopefully just Dysan and I!! And Dysan - that'll be our last 2ww for a long time right?

Bonnie - I understand accupuncture is safe and can even help with symptoms like nausea but only if the accupuncturist is highly qualified and understands the difference in treatment during pregnancy. The girl I see will treat as if I am pregnant if I get treament during the 2ww because she doesn't want to damage the possible pregancy. She will do the ears, parts of my hand, head and a few places on my feet. Her speciality is infertility though so I trust her judgment. By the way I like the PMA! How are you today?

Mom to 2 - EPO or Evening Primrose Oil is a supplement you can take up to Ovulation then you discontinue because it can cause uterine contractions. I took 2000 mgs daily and noticed a difference with increased EWCM. The reason I didn't use it this month is because I didn't get a + so I thought I would try Fertile CM to see what that did and I swear that stuff dried me out. Any news from you?? I hope you've got a BFP to share!!

Dysan - I'm excited for you to try again this month. You're already at CD4! Have you got your schedule (bad word I know) figured out?

Fluffy - I've heard Ireland is one of the most magical places on earth. I've never been but one of my dearest friends is Irish (from County Clare). We were saying Saturday that we need to plan a trip together since she knows the area. She's got 2 redheaded beautiful girls. One is in university and the other will be be leaving for school next year. She and DF talked on and on about all the spetacular places to visit and how spiritual parts of Ireland are. DF loved it but says the roads there are scarier than any other place he's driven. My friend's hubby has been there enough (they lived there for a few years when their girls were wee) he can drive with no problem.

MG - you hanging in there? How were the games yesterday? Did DS's team win?

 

[Bonnie1990]

Hugs to you faithmum! Stupid
Yes-last TWW for you and Dysan for a while

PMA is a bit better I guess but it's definitely a Monday at work so blah

Ireland is beautiful. I went with my mother and grandparents when I was 9. I wet to school for a day in an old stone schoolhouse in Limerick I believe. Kissed the blarney stone. I remember the roads being very narrow and our tour bus side swooped another car! We both stopped and waited-the drivers never bothered to get out they just went on their way. We were told it was such a common occurance they don't even bother!

Fx'd crossed for some BFP's this week!

I just had about a half hour of real nausea-I was so lucky with my other two pregnancies and never had a day of ms. I know I'm gonna get slammed this time.

 

[Dysan]

faithmum so sorry to read that AF is here for you

I dont have my BD schedule planned and honestly, i will play it by ear this cycle. We BD SO MUCH last cycle and it was not help at all.

I am not sure if I am CD 3 or CD 4. I am going by CD4. My AF was too weird this month and if i am CD 3 then AF was only 1 day long if I am CD 4 it was 2 so I will take Friday, which was heavy spotting for me, as CD 1. I dont think it matters, honestly, because this cycle was 26 days while my usual is 29-30.

I plan on do OPK for sure probably starting end of the week. We'll BD naturally this week (our standard is about 3X weekly and quite honestly I am eager since we did not BD for past 1.5 week!) and when I get a +OPK we'll see... maybe i will do EOD this time around...

I would not worry about your eggs! You did get pregnant last year so chances are that they you are OK. I forgot where you are but, here in the US, First Response has a test that you do on the third day of AF and tells you egg reserve or something like that...another stick that you can pee on! haha.

 

[Dysan]

Bonnie, that's great about the nausea!!!!!!!!!!!!! hoping that you get the BFP this cycle!

 

[Bonnie1990]

faithmum so sorry to read that AF is here for you

I dont have my BD schedule planned and honestly, i will play it by ear this cycle. We BD SO MUCH last cycle and it was not help at all.

I am not sure if I am CD 3 or CD 4. I am going by CD4. My AF was too weird this month and if i am CD 3 then AF was only 1 day long if I am CD 4 it was 2 so I will take Friday, which was heavy spotting for me, as CD 1. I dont think it matters, honestly, because this cycle was 26 days while my usual is 29-30.

I plan on do OPK for sure probably starting end of the week. We'll BD naturally this week (our standard is about 3X weekly and quite honestly I am eager since we did not BD for past 1.5 week!) and when I get a +OPK we'll see... maybe i will do EOD this time around...

I would not worry about your eggs! You did get pregnant last year so chances are that they you are OK. I forgot where you are but, here in the US, First Response has a test that you do on the third day of AF and tells you egg reserve or something like that...another stick that you can pee on! haha.

It is an FSH test. I got it through pregnacy test.com where I get all my tests from. It is the one test you WANT to be bfn lol