castaway, I am so sorry for your loss this last one really hit me hard too, the one I lost in june I didn't know how far along I was or anything it still hurt but not like this one, june baby wasn't planned however this one was and I really thought it was meant to be I had dreams about it and I always have crazy dreams real vivid when I get pregnant which I am having now as well, but my mom passed away in 2010 and I dreamed I asked her to please let me be pregnant well I was and my due date was her bday so it really hit me as a shock I am highrisk so I get u/s a lot more I had 9w heard hb everything great, 11w3d again hb great, 13w3d no hb, of course I hoped it was a mistake but at my 14w3d scan it confirmed what I already knew due to light spotting etc placenta was trying to detach then when I passed him at 17weeks it was so hard on me he looked just like a baby would only a lot smaller he had eyes ears nose mouth hands feet fingers toes everything of course eyelids were still closed but I had him at home (you could tell it was a boy) and the ambulance brought him and while I was knocked out after dnc they took him to the lab without asking me so now I have nothing but u/s pictures I was so mad and still am, I will never be the same after this one but iw as going to just NTNP and see how it went but I can't let it go I guess and I like the whole opks and hpt testing lol but you said your 5w post dnc? hmm that's a hard guess since you don't know if you hit 0 yet but since you were just 9weeks this last time I would think you would be at 0 by now but everyones different I really hope you are and everything goes great this time everyone deserves a baby (with exception of course) and its hard after mc cause you still feel and look pregnant and idw to go anywhere or see anyone cause scared theyd think I was still pg or ask its hard I completely get it and seeing pg women makes it harder and people that you know aren't good parents etc but we have to push on and know there is a reason for all of this and that we will get our baby!!