TTC after loss - over 40 - any takers? Our lucky thread - 9 rainbows and 1 BFP

[dancareoi]

I have been reading through this thread with tears in my eyes.
I can relate to so many of you.
I am 42, 43 next year.
I have been blessed with four beautiful daughters, and hadnt planned to have any more.
Then my marriage broke down, I met a wonderful man , and now we are trying for a baby, his first.
He is 42 also.

I always fell first cycle with my others so guess I didnt know what it was liek to have that wait.
I had an early miscarriage in may , i was 6 weeks, after trying for 4 months.
I then fell pregnant my second cycle after MC only to lose it 13 days ago at 10 weeks.
Its hit me really hard and like many I feel time isnt on my side.
The whole expereince has really knocked me for six.
They scanned me last wed and said there was only 9mm left, and they referred to it as product!!
I stopped bleeding on the thursday night, but had slight spotting sun through to mon and I mean slight, but no pains.,
They made me do a pregnancy test today to check hormones were back to normal and it came back positive which has just upset me all over again. They are saying there must still be some 'product' left.
They arent scanning me until monday now and they will decide what to do with me then. So i now feel in limbo as I know I am not going to ovulate until this is all over.
My whole experience with the local hospital has left me with no faith in them whatsoever either.

But maybe third time lucky

I am so sorry that you too are going through another loss. Especially as there seems to be ongoing still.

I too always seemed to catch first time, but it took 4 attempts this time. That in itself was new territory for me, i was not used to that let down each month.

I just want the bleeding to stop and to get on with it. It`s only been 5 days since my D & C and the bleeding hasny been too bad, but today i have started having mild cramps. I am thinking this is just my uterus now starting to contract and hopefully in the next couple of days all the bleeding etc will stop and i will eagerly await the return of my AF.

Just hope and pray it doesnt take 4 goes again.

When I lost one in similar circumstances, we waited for 1 AF before trying again. 10 months after that loss my rainbow baby boy was born, now nearly 2 1/2.

As you say, time is against us, but i have not given up hope yet.

when i go to the clinic again next week, i am going to take with me a list of everything that happened leading up to me getting pregnant i.e

- period lasting 6-7 days
- clots for the two heaviest days, roughly size of 1p piece.
- Short LP of 9 days
- Progesterone level taken 21 dpo which was 44, anything over 30 is good, but I want to meantion this.
- When I Ov i had temp rise, but even though I was PG my temp did not rise again.

I have got it into my head that somehow i have a low progesterone level so u can`t maintain a PG. this combined with my acunounctursit saying I had poor blood quality, I am wandering if the blood flow to the uterus want sufficient.

Anyway, I will mention all of this to them and also next week start acupuncture.

I am not going to give up, I am going to keep trying until i get my rainbow.

I hope everything gets sorted out for you and i am so sorry that another rainbow has been lost. Two more little angels now in heaven.

Keep in touch on this thread, I have found the support here the last 8 months has been great.

My journey has gone full circle in here, from loss to WTT to TTC to BFP then MMC again.

Hopefully my new journey will go WTT, TTC, BFP and

Hopefully third time lucky as you say.

 

[crazymam]

I have been reading through this thread with tears in my eyes.
I can relate to so many of you.
I am 42, 43 next year.
I have been blessed with four beautiful daughters, and hadnt planned to have any more.
Then my marriage broke down, I met a wonderful man , and now we are trying for a baby, his first.
He is 42 also.

I always fell first cycle with my others so guess I didnt know what it was liek to have that wait.
I had an early miscarriage in may , i was 6 weeks, after trying for 4 months.
I then fell pregnant my second cycle after MC only to lose it 13 days ago at 10 weeks.
Its hit me really hard and like many I feel time isnt on my side.
The whole expereince has really knocked me for six.
They scanned me last wed and said there was only 9mm left, and they referred to it as product!!
I stopped bleeding on the thursday night, but had slight spotting sun through to mon and I mean slight, but no pains.,
They made me do a pregnancy test today to check hormones were back to normal and it came back positive which has just upset me all over again. They are saying there must still be some 'product' left.
They arent scanning me until monday now and they will decide what to do with me then. So i now feel in limbo as I know I am not going to ovulate until this is all over.
My whole experience with the local hospital has left me with no faith in them whatsoever either.

But maybe third time lucky

I am so sorry that you too are going through another loss. Especially as there seems to be ongoing still.

I too always seemed to catch first time, but it took 4 attempts this time. That in itself was new territory for me, i was not used to that let down each month.

I just want the bleeding to stop and to get on with it. It`s only been 5 days since my D & C and the bleeding hasny been too bad, but today i have started having mild cramps. I am thinking this is just my uterus now starting to contract and hopefully in the next couple of days all the bleeding etc will stop and i will eagerly await the return of my AF.

Just hope and pray it doesnt take 4 goes again.

When I lost one in similar circumstances, we waited for 1 AF before trying again. 10 months after that loss my rainbow baby boy was born, now nearly 2 1/2.

As you say, time is against us, but i have not given up hope yet.

when i go to the clinic again next week, i am going to take with me a list of everything that happened leading up to me getting pregnant i.e

- period lasting 6-7 days
- clots for the two heaviest days, roughly size of 1p piece.
- Short LP of 9 days
- Progesterone level taken 21 dpo which was 44, anything over 30 is good, but I want to meantion this.
- When I Ov i had temp rise, but even though I was PG my temp did not rise again.

I have got it into my head that somehow i have a low progesterone level so u can`t maintain a PG. this combined with my acunounctursit saying I had poor blood quality, I am wandering if the blood flow to the uterus want sufficient.

Anyway, I will mention all of this to them and also next week start acupuncture.

I am not going to give up, I am going to keep trying until i get my rainbow.

I hope everything gets sorted out for you and i am so sorry that another rainbow has been lost. Two more little angels now in heaven.

Keep in touch on this thread, I have found the support here the last 8 months has been great.

My journey has gone full circle in here, from loss to WTT to TTC to BFP then MMC again.

Hopefully my new journey will go WTT, TTC, BFP and

Hopefully third time lucky as you say.

My gp hasnt discussed feritility issues at all, all i am told is I am too old so have a higher risk of miscarriage. I havent been offered any tests etc?
Maybe I need to push things.
I just wish I was at the stage so my body could ovulate again! It was frustrating today though as hosp were not listening when I told them I stopped bleeding two days ago!! its the wait more than anything. why couldnt they just scan me today , then give me the medication so my body can start again.
I will not be beat though, positive thinking all the way and lots of babydust


And fingers crossed its good news for everyone on here soon

 

[Angelsmommie]

crazymam I am so terribly sorry. How horrible and to refer to it as 'product'?!?!?! Feels so insensitive of them! Chin up girl I'll be praying for a BFP next time around and rainbow babies for all of us.

 

[dancareoi]

Hi all,

DH and I had a very long chat last night about where we go from here. He said he had started to think ahead and make plans in his head for the new baby and wham, it was taken from him.

He is in a dilema in a way, because he does want another baby now, but he is so worried, like me, about how we will feel if the same were to happen again. he wanted to look ahead to that possibility and see where we would go from there. I said the way i feel now, I would need to keep trying. This does worry him because he doesnt want us to have to go through this again and he is worried for me mentally and phsically.

However, we are going to try again and hope and pray it will be 3rd time lucky.

We will wait for me to have 1 AF, which is what we did 3 years ago, and we will then start trying again.

i am at the hospital next week for a follow up appointment and i am going to tell them how my AF have been over the last few months, lasting 6/7 days with clotting and about my short LP and how stressed and anxious i was during the PG.

I have been reading about something called `cold uterus` which I believe is something to do with blood flow to the womb and not being able to sustain a PG due to lack of nutrients and the right hormones.

I am thinking it could be this, doctor will probably disagreed, but i thought no harm in mentioning it. I want to try now and warm up my womb. Hot drinks and hot food help, along with keeping feet warm as well!

I am hoping the acupuncure works for this as well, my first appointment is next wednesday.

Hoping and praying i get my little rainbow.

 

[lilblossom]

Hi Dance, sorry I haven't been posting lately, Hubby and I decided to stop trying but i do still pop in from time to time and get caught up. I was so sorry to see what you just went through. I understand exactly how you feel. I think for me, if they could guarantee me a successful pregnancy right away I would jump on it but I have a feeling I have had at least one chemical since my miscarriage and just don't want to feel that heartache every month anymore. But again I understand needing to keep going and I agree, talking to your doctor wont hurt. Just know my thoughts are with you.

 

[dancareoi]

Hi Dance, sorry I haven't been posting lately, Hubby and I decided to stop trying but i do still pop in from time to time and get caught up. I was so sorry to see what you just went through. I understand exactly how you feel. I think for me, if they could guarantee me a successful pregnancy right away I would jump on it but I have a feeling I have had at least one chemical since my miscarriage and just don't want to feel that heartache every month anymore. But again I understand needing to keep going and I agree, talking to your doctor wont hurt. Just know my thoughts are with you.

Thank you. I really don't want the heartache of another loss, but I on the other hand I am acting so badly for a rainbow.

Just gotmtomtrynand stay positive and hope that between the doctors, the acupuncturist and self help, we will get our rainbow.

I really think there is something in the blood flow to the womb, maybe it's wishful thinking that it is something like this that hopefully can be resolved.

I have decided to try and warm up my uterus! For the last 2 days I have worn socks and slippers all day, kept a jumper on at all times, even though I am a little warm and worn socks in bed! Hoping this will help my circulation and better blood flow to womb.

I am still taking pregnacare conception tablets and vitamin B6.

When my first AF returns, hopefully in about 4 weeks time, it will be interesting to see if my LP is any longer than the 9-10 days it was in the summer.

I have a lot to think about this week, so hopefully keep my mind busy.

My DD is in her first gymnastics competition today. Then on Wednesday I have my first acupuncture session . Then the main things, my DS sat his 11+ exams last week for Birmngham and Warwickshire as we a hoping for a grammer school place for him, either in his firs choice school of king Edwards five ways in birmingham, or his second choice school of king Edwards boys school in Stratford upon Avon. We will get the Stratford results Saturday, we won't find out until march if he is definately in but the marks will give us a good idea wheth he will get a place.

Hopefully all this will keep my knd off what has happened.

I do feel bette this week than last week, because we have sat down and decided to try again after first AF, to me it helps that I know we can try again.

Hope you are feeling good now you too have made a decision.

 

[Creative]

Hello and welcome Crazymam

I'm dreading Halloween as it's the day my angel was due.

I woke this morning to discover AF had arrived early on day 25.

I am beginning to think I may be pre menopausal as although before the surprise, I had never charted, recorded or counted when she would come, since the first proper period after the MC I've had cycles of 28, 29, 26, 27 and now 25 days.
Any thought on this?

I am going to get some OPK's now as before I was using EWCM as a guide to doing the deed.

I'm feeling real dispair right now. I'm still 43 at the moment, but 44 is looming.
It anoys me that OH is not as desiring as I am.

I'm a worship leader at church which means I lead the band and stand up front. Yesterday I saw people looking at my tummy whilst I was leading and I know that there is so much hope out there for me, but I am seriously developing anxiety over it all.
send some hugs my way, I need them right now!

I'm in the midst of the CHristmas prep with my business and am making the decorations and jewellery as fast as I can, I'm busy and that means that sometimes it slips my mind. Then all of a sudden the memories and thoughts come tumbling back bringing me down to earth with a bump (actually no bump!)

 

[dancareoi]

Creative

I don't know about you but I feel so frustrated and angry sometimes, that I came so close, but once again it was taken away. More time wasted!

I have just bought some herbal tea - ginger tea. I have read it is very good for 'warming' you from the inside, for circulation to womb and so on. It tastes absolutely disgusting but I am so determined to do all I can that I will force myself to drink a cup each day.

Over the years my cycles have got shorter,mother used to be every 35-42 days and the ones I had this year were 31, 30, 33, 26 and 29. As I have mentioned before I believe my LP has to 9-10 days.

I haven't had an ad since taking vitamin B6 because I got my BFP, so I will be interested to see what happens this month as we are not trying.

After my mc in jan my AF returned after 6 weeks and after my previous d & c after 5 weeks, I am hoping for AF by beginning November, so we can start trying then and see what happens.

I know how you feel about the age things, I am a little younger, having just turned 41, but even still I wish I were just a couple of years younger.

 

[crazymam]

I am 43 and feel like the clock is ticking now and fast. I also feel frustrated, two miscarriages this year but on teh positive side at least I know I can still conceive and the second one did reach 10 weeks.

But I am starting to get a bit too obsessed with it now.
I started woth ovulation sticks again and havent ovulated since miscarriage, although i idint stop bleeding until last monday so maybe expecting too much
I am taking my pregnacare tablets every day, started drinking barley grass juice powder in my pineapple jiuce every morning, I have a bottle of water in my hand constantly,
I am exercising regularly, although aware not to do it in excess.
I cut out all chocolate, cakes, etc and dont drink tea, never liked coffee.
I only drink alcohol once a month when its my time of the month too!
Although I am even contemplating cutting out alcohol altogether
I am taking my temp every morning, checking cervix and mucus too and using a fertility app on my phone

I have turned quite neurotic I think, luckily my partner is just as crazy and is doing the exercise with me, eating healthy and even drinking the barley grass juice haha,

we just need positive thinking ladies

 

[crazymam]

forgot to mention we are alos drinking green tea too as read that can help with fertility!

Has anyone else tried barley grass juice powder? I stumbled on it by chance last week and ordered some of amazon , it cant do any harm so worth a try.
Probably easier to say what good things it doesnt have in it!
I am also having a spinach and tomato omelette every other day for breakfast, in fact become quite addicted to them now.
One plus is I have never felt so healthy as I do right now, just need a little bump to complete things

 

[dancareoi]

forgot to mention we are alos drinking green tea too as read that can help with fertility!

Has anyone else tried barley grass juice powder? I stumbled on it by chance last week and ordered some of amazon , it cant do any harm so worth a try.
Probably easier to say what good things it doesnt have in it!
I am also having a spinach and tomato omelette every other day for breakfast, in fact become quite addicted to them now.
One plus is I have never felt so healthy as I do right now, just need a little bump to complete things

I suppose that the plus for us is that we can still get PG, so that is something.

What does barley grass juice powder do? I am also taking the pregnacare conception. I don't really drink, apart from last week a baileys every night as a treat, but that will stop now.

I need to stop the chocolate eating and have turned to caffeine free tea.

I brought some ginger nut biscuits today, taste better than the tea. Although I will try the tea with honey to try and sweeten it a little.

I had spinach for tea tonight, wasn't overly keen but made sure I ate it all. Spinach is also good for warming your uterus.

I have 2 soft boiled eggs on toast for lunch every day(scrambled when pg) acupuncturist said I need good protein and eggs a good. I read once that you shouldn't have more than 2 eggs a week due to cholesterol , however he said stress creates more cholesterol than eggs!

I was also eating flora pro- active, but he said to have Kerry gold butter instead.

I will try anything to get my rainbow, anything it takes.

I am going to see doctor tomorrow. It's been 10 days since my d & c and I am still bleeding, not very much though. None in the morning then a little as the day goes on, no harm in seeing doc and see what she says and whether she has any thoughts on how I can get my rainbow .

Crazymam

 

[crazymam]

Its rubbish about eggs and cholestrol they are now telling everyone to eat more eggs! My mam has to control her cholestrol thats how i found out and a spinach omelette is quite tasty! Use olive oil though
barley grass is good for fertility full of iron, calcium, fibre, amino acids, minerals, 12 vitamins etc. Will try and find a link post it or google barley grass juice and fertility x

 

[dancareoi]

Its rubbish about eggs and cholestrol they are now telling everyone to eat more eggs! My mam has to control her cholestrol thats how i found out and a spinach omelette is quite tasty! Use olive oil though
barley grass is good for fertility full of iron, calcium, fibre, amino acids, minerals, 12 vitamins etc. Will try and find a link post it or google barley grass juice and fertility x

I'll google it tomorrow, madness here now as bed time and having to get 3 of them bathed and to bed is a major job!

Have a good night and speak soon

 

[lilblossom]

I just noticed something really weird...I seem to have increased urination the week between af and ovulation...never really noticed before until I started school because I am finding it difficult to wait til class ends to use the bathroom. haha

 

[crazymam]

I just noticed something really weird...I seem to have increased urination the week between af and ovulation...never really noticed before until I started school because I am finding it difficult to wait til class ends to use the bathroom. haha

Is it not just that you are drinking more perhaps? I have never noticed that before, only when I am pregnant then I may as well be permanently sat in the toilet haha

 

[Xanth]

just popping by to see how everyone is doing.


We could do with some good luck on this thread soon

 

[dancareoi]

just popping by to see how everyone is doing.


We could do with some good luck on this thread soon

Hi, we could do with some luck here - I might try and add lucky thread to title!

Went to docs today as still bleeding, only slightly, from my d & c which was 11 days ago. She took a swab just to check things out and also gave me some antibiotics just in case, hopefully this will help( I did the same thing after my d&c 3 years ago anD got my rainbow!)

First acupuncture session tomorrow, so I'll let you know how that goes.

On a sad point, my body in a way still thinks I am pregnant, I have done a couple of OPK tests in the last few days and they are all a positive, obviously picking up on increased levels of hcg. Just want the levels to go down ASAP so my AF will turn.

Started drinking ginger tea yesterday, just a cup a day. It is good for circulation and blood flow to womb. It tastes absolutely disgusting, but I am going to do whatever it takes to get my rainbow.

 

[crazymam]

just popping by to see how everyone is doing.


We could do with some good luck on this thread soon

Hi, we could do with some luck here - I might try and add lucky thread to title!

Went to docs today as still bleeding, only slightly, from my d & c which was 11 days ago. She took a swab just to check things out and also gave me some antibiotics just in case, hopefully this will help( I did the same thing after my d&c 3 years ago anD got my rainbow!)

First acupuncture session tomorrow, so I'll let you know how that goes.

On a sad point, my body in a way still thinks I am pregnant, I have done a couple of OPK tests in the last few days and they are all a positive, obviously picking up on increased levels of hcg. Just want the levels to go down ASAP so my AF will turn.

Started drinking ginger tea yesterday, just a cup a day. It is good for circulation and blood flow to womb. It tastes absolutely disgusting, but I am going to do whatever it takes to get my rainbow.

my opk have been negative since bleeding stopped. A week ago. Think i about to ovulate soon, well i hope! fingers crossed for everyone x

 

[dancareoi]

Well just returned from my acupuncture session and feel a little strange. Something definately happened when those needles went in!

Firstly he did something with magnets on my fingers and says my stomach is the problem, I am not digesting food right so my blood is not good enough. I need to eat at least 2 eggs every day and lots of dark green veg and steak, not overcooked.

He also placed needles in my ears and said both my ovaries are fine and my uterus is healing, so all good there too.

He also placed needles for my pituitary gland to try and improve my LP and also needles to calm me down.

I have a magnet in my ear, that needs to stay all week. I need to press it every 3-4 hours, I think this is to help with my emotions.

I also have 4 magnets on my little finger which need to stay on for a day

He has told me not to worry and believes he can help.

I feel different now to earlier, so whatever he did is helping already!

I have to keep a log of anything that feels different this week. At the moment I feel very tired!

He told me not to worry about my age (41) he didn't think this was a problem. He is currently helping a 48 year old. He specialises in fertility and miscarriage.

Also I don't have to drink that disgusting ginger tea!

I am feeling really positive now about all of this and hope these good vibes will help me to get my rainbow.

 

[Xanth]

Dancaroi Glad you are feeling more positive. Im still a bit scared of acupuncture.

I hope your opk is positive soon Crazymam