TTC after Methotrexate shot

[JPARR01]

Chart is looking good!

How'd everything go on Friday, Natalie?

Thanks again for all the support last week. I'm definitely feeling better today/this weekend. Don't get me wrong, I'm still cautious - but I'm not so run down and bitter/angry/resentful. I really appreciate all your kind words and understanding though.

6dpo so far.. wonder what'll happen!

 

[mirandala]

Natalie- thinking of you and hoping friday went well!

Savasannah- I'm so glad to hear things are feeling a little bit better now. Fingers crossed for you!!!

 

[Savasanna]

Thanks Mirandala! Any updates for you?

 

[Nataliek]

Hi ladies, Friday went well! My hubby had a sperm count of 150 million post wash lol he was quite proud of himself. I am not confident it worked and I'm ok with that, if I have to do it again I won't be as stressed as I know what to expect. They know how I respond to the injections so they will increase next time to try and get two eggs. I go in for bloodwork next Friday.

How is everyone feeling???

 

[Savasanna]

Natalie! 150million sperm count is great! Did something happen that makes you not confident or is that just a general feeling?

I'm doing well today. 8dpo and getting anxious to know how this is going to turn out. I'm still not cramping.. and the only other time I wasn't cramping by this point was when I got my bfp. I went back and re-read some of my old posts from that cycle, I'm not sure if that was a good idea or a bad one. haha.

 

[Nataliek]

ha ha I do that too. I analyze everything!!! Nothing happened lol, just a general feeling that it wont work because we have had two losses and the ectopic so why would it work now? What an awful way to think!!!! It was really odd also because I had a 21mm follicle last Thursday when I had the ovidrel shot, which should have had my ovulating 24-36 hours afterwards. IUI on Friday morning and then sex that night. It wasn't until I woke up in the middle of the night on Saturday I was in pain, cramps and pinching on my one side. I called the clinic the next morning and they said I was probably ovulating, I was still achy all day on Sunday. That's really the only thing that has made me think maybe the timing was off and I really didn't ovulate 36 hours after the trigger shot, was more like 72 and by then would any of the fresh sperm from the IUI still be alive? I need someone to take google away from me for the rest of my life!! lol

How long are your cycles usually? The good news is you know you can conceive right, its just a timing thing and stocking up on patience is next to impossible I know! Do you do one or two inseminations at a time?

 

[mirandala]

Natalie- what a great sperm count!! The sperm from bd'ing on Friday night should still be alive when you were ovulating even if the IUI sperm was not anymore. So it could go either way! Ahh! How are you feeling? Are you temping?

Savasanna- are you a poas person? When are you going to start trying?

Me: I had the call on Tuesday that my beta was at 3! Wooooo! So I'm not pregnant anymore and back to normal. I'm trying to go away to NYC for the summer, given the break up in conjunction with the ectopic. I'm able to work there too so it just makes sense to get away. I am going to start trying again when I'm back from NYC, not sure yet when that will be. I kind of like the idea of having forced time away- I am going to try not to worry too much about everything this summer, and when I am back I will focus on ttc again.

 

[Savasanna]

Congrats Mirandala! I totally understand what you're saying - while I didn't *want* to take a break between the mtx and trying again, part of me enjoyed the forced break, if that makes sense. Where in NYC are you staying? I spent some time in Park Slope a few years back and absolutely adored it.

I'm not a poas person, no. The bfns are too hard for me. I'm not sure when I'm going to test - but probably this weekend. I like the idea of testing at 11dpo (so Saturday) because it's far enough along that a bfp is possible, but early enough that a bfn doesn't necessarily mean a failed cycle. I'm reeeeeaaally curious what my temp is going to do tomorrow - I feel like that is going to be telling for me.

Ack! so nervous!

Natalie - We're actually using my partner's brother as a donor so we do one insemination a day for a few days. The problem with that is that he's not local so we have to schedule the time and cross our fingers that it lines up with my ovulation. This past cycle it was a little early - we did 3 inseminations 4, 3 and 2 days prior to ovulation (according to ff). I thought it was on the early side but maybe I was wrong?! The whole not cramping thing is what's getting me. I always start cramping about a week (sometimes more) prior to my period. The only exception was the month I got my bfp. So I guess we'll just wait and see!

 

[Nataliek]

Savasanna, my doctor (who is the director of the fertility clinic I go to) explained to me that you are most likely to conceive 2 days prior to ovulation!

 

[WHITNEYG]

Well I'm 1dpo, and the 2ww begins. I'm nervous because I'm pretty sure I ovulated from my ectopic side, but at this point I'm very hopeful.

I hope everyone else is doing good this week, and Savasanna did you test yet?

 

[Savasanna]

I didn't get a chance to test as af showed early. Bummer. Ah well - already spoke with my bil and he's available this month so we'll be trying again in a few weeks, hopefully with better results!

The bonus here is that a few months ago I made plans to get a tattoo while I was having a "my life can't revolve around ttc forever" moment. Her earliest availability was 6/25. I scheduled it but kind of assumed I would have to cancel the appointment as I'd be pregnant by then. The bad news is I'm not pregnant, but the good news is new tattoo next week!

Welcome back to the tww Whitney! I hope everything goes well for you!

Natalie - any news yet?

 

[Nataliek]

Don't worry Whitney, I was the same really worried about ovulating from the same side but we have a 90% chance of having a normal pregnancy!! I hope your tww goes fast!!

Sorry af came Sav, but happy your brother in law is available for you to try again! Exciting about your tattoo, I have four small ones lol. In places you can't really see them except for the one on my ankle.

I am pretty sure my period is imminent, positive it will be here on Friday. I was feeling really down yesterday but dealt with it and now I'm ready to get on with it. We are going to try on our own this cycle and then if we're not successful will do another iui with an increase in medication to try and get two eggs.

 

[Savasanna]

I totally understand that - I think that's mostly why I temp. It helps me deal with the feelings of af coming so by the time I actually get my period, I've already gone through the process of dealing with it. Like this cycle - I don't know why but I thought for SURE it was going to work. The only thing that kept my head out of the clouds was my low temps. I think it would've been devastating to wake up Monday morning sure of success, only to get my period right as I arrived at work. It would've been hard.

Anyway - the point I'm making is that, for me, it's better to be sad/angry/whatever before.. once af shows it's time to move on. BUT - I'll still hold out hope for you Natalie. You may need to keep your feet on the ground to protect your heart but I'll keep my hopes up for you. I think it'd be great of all of us could get our bfps around the same time and support each other in the coming months.

On that note - how're you doing Whitney?

Natalie - good on you for stopping at 4 - and four small ones at that! I got my first tattoo when I was 18. Yup. Hi, I'm that cliché. I didn't get another one for 10 years but have since gotten 5 in the last 4 years. I'm pretty much done, however. I have a thing with symmetry and I can't think of anywhere else that I'd want to put a tattoo that would fit with the ones I currently have, if that makes sense. The tattoo I'm getting next week is actually a reworking of an existing one - so I'm not counting that as a new tattoo. I plan to only get one more in life - and that will be something to symbolically represent any child(ren) I have. I'm saving a place on my body for that one.

Actually, there's one other one I'm planning too. My partner and I decided that we'll get each other's names tattooed on for our 50th anniversary. We'll be 71. I know it's a big no-no to tattoo names, but we figured we'll pretty much be in the clear by then. Plus what's more adorable than two old ladies getting tattooed?

 

[Nataliek]

Aww I think that's a wonderful idea, Sav! How cute! I got my first one at 18 also and then the last one I had done I was 25. I don't think I will get anymore, but I never say never.

I agree, we should really try and lift each other up while we go through this. It's such a long process and support is so important. I really hope the coming months bring us our bfp's.

I am spotting tonight and have my usual pre-af cramps, pretty sure tomorrow morning it will be here right on time! I knew this wasn't the month, don't ask me how but I knew. We are going on vacation next Sunday and I am really looking forward to getting away and sitting on the beach for a week, taking a break from my thoughts and all of this.

How are you Whitney?

Mirandala, How are you???

 

[Savasanna]

Where are you vacationing to?

 

[WHITNEYG]

So far so good, just anxiously waiting. I was a little concerned because my temp only jumped to 97.5 after ovulation. The past 2 months I've been temping it ALWAYS jumps to 97.7. However, I'm pretty sure it's because I have stopped drinking wine at night. I read somewhere that alcohol can raise your bbt slightly, but since we're ttc, clearly, I have stopped drinking.

Savasanna, I'm with you. My temp is always so telling. About 2 days before my period starts my temp starts dropping. Will keep you guys updated.

 

[mirandala]

Sav- that tattoo idea is really cute!

Natalie- I'm okay thanks! I'm just trying to stay distracted! Look forward to my boobs shrinking back down!! I haven't had my AF yet, but it's so nice not to be bleeding.

You all temp- I've not done that yet. I'm a little afraid that if I start it will become an obsession, you know?

I'm sorry this month hasn't been successful yet for any of you! Fingers crossed for you whit!

 

[Savasanna]

It can become a little obsessive - but honestly there's not that much to get obsessed about. It's not like testing where some people test 4 times a day. You temp once in the morning.. and that's it. Done and done. I do find myself looking at my chart throughout the day - but again, you look for 3 minutes.. and then there's really not much else to look at. haha.

Glad to hear things are moving along for you! I totally understand what you mean about not bleeding!

 

[WHITNEYG]

Ok, I know I'm going to sound like a weirdo, but I'm freaking out. So this weekend my temps have stayed normal, but I've had weird twinges and pinches that started on Saturday on the side I'm pretty sure I ovulated from which is my ectopic side. I'm terrified that this is happening all over again. I'm trying to stay positive, but I'm scared to death. This could be all in my head, but I'm just a big ball of nerves right now.

How is everyone else?

 

[Savasanna]

Whitney - I get twinges on the side that I ovulate from EVERY month. I asked my doc about this (because I also thought it was a symptom of my ectopic) and she said it's because after you ovulate you form a small cyst (corpus luteum) around that ovary. The job of this to produce the progesterone until you are pregnant and form a placenta (which then takes over the progesterone production). If you are not pregnant the corpus luteum dissolves, which diminishes the progesterone in your body and intiates your period. Some women, particularly women who are ttc and are therefore VERY cognizant of what's happening in their bodies, can feel the corpus luteum in the form of pressure or pinches off to one side.

Totally. Normal. (and you’d likely feel it whether you’re pregnant or not)

Hope this eases your fears a little!