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Well I am joining you Simmy and bec in the sleep camp!!
After reading mels post yesterday about how they woke Harrison up for the feed and wished they hadn't we were in the same predicament last night - she fell asleep at 8.30 and at 10.30 we went to bed and didn't wake her. So she woke up at 12.30-1.30 and fed and has been asleep ever since! Still is! Gregs alarm went off but that didn't wake her! I am only up now because my boob was killing full of milk so I had to express it. Out if the left side thenax I have ever got out was 70 mls and this morning I got 225mls!! That's from one side! I am in shock!!
I am going to go back to sleep now while she still is.
Caz - if you can see congestion you could use one of those nasal pipettes however when clare comes on she might have some suggestions as Niamh has congestion I think. Have a look on her parenting journal as she was talking to some of the others about remedies.
After reading mels post yesterday about how they woke Harrison up for the feed and wished they hadn't we were in the same predicament last night - she fell asleep at 8.30 and at 10.30 we went to bed and didn't wake her. So she woke up at 12.30-1.30 and fed and has been asleep ever since! Still is! Gregs alarm went off but that didn't wake her! I am only up now because my boob was killing full of milk so I had to express it. Out if the left side thenax I have ever got out was 70 mls and this morning I got 225mls!! That's from one side! I am in shock!!
I am going to go back to sleep now while she still is.
Caz - if you can see congestion you could use one of those nasal pipettes however when clare comes on she might have some suggestions as Niamh has congestion I think. Have a look on her parenting journal as she was talking to some of the others about remedies.
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Okay she is awake now so I'm feeding. Can't tell you how refreshed I feel!
Anyway wanted to get your advice, my nct friend (lives in the block of flats across the road) seems yo be suffering a degree of depression. I couldn't say if it's actually PND obviously. She gave birth 6 days before me after a 24 hour labour (from the very start of contractions) and she got to 4cm but didn't advance further so they ended up doing an emergency c section. She has her parents living with them now - they live in canadia but are over for 8 weeks to help. She sendsme emails probably 5 tines a week saying how hard she is finding things and that she is struggling with no sleep, how difficult BF is, that she doesn't want to leave the flat unless she has to in case the baby needs feeding. She was meant to meet me at baby clinic last Monday but didn't as she got halfway there and turned around because her baby was crying. Her baby sleeps for approx 3 hour stretches and she gets up and does the feed then she hands the baby to her parents who stay with it until it's burped and back to bed. If the baby wakes up in the night and it's not feed time then her parents deal with it. I guess my point here is that she has lots of support. She has asked her mum to stay longer but nit sure if she is.
She sendsme emails where she is worrying about stuff to do with the baby, an example being one I got last night saying that her baby had just been sick for the first time and she was panicking something was wrong. Now as annabelle is permanently vomiting I just said that babies are sick sometimes for no major reason and if she is feeding and appears happy and no temperature she isprob fine. My point is that she seems to have disproportionate panics over things. Whether it be sick, or no. Of poos or how much she cries etc. I saw her at the weekend for the lunch we went to and her mum was telling me how she wasn't coping well and that when she went back to canadia she thought they would need to hire professional help.
She is still recovering from her section too and says she is still ib a lot of pain internally but scar has healed on the outside.
Every week I send a text or email asking if she wants to catch up. easy for me to pop over and I'm more than happy to and she just ignores my suggestion.
I guess I'm now thinking should I send an email saying that I'm worried about her and that I think it would help to talk and that I can come over. I guess be a bit more pointed and specific or should I just leave her? I know her mum is trying to help but she even said she doesn't know what more she can do. I fon't want to offend her or upset her though by making her think I think she isn't coping. Which of course I do think that but I also think that if she talks to someone it could help her before it gets put of hand.
If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it! Thanks
Anyway wanted to get your advice, my nct friend (lives in the block of flats across the road) seems yo be suffering a degree of depression. I couldn't say if it's actually PND obviously. She gave birth 6 days before me after a 24 hour labour (from the very start of contractions) and she got to 4cm but didn't advance further so they ended up doing an emergency c section. She has her parents living with them now - they live in canadia but are over for 8 weeks to help. She sendsme emails probably 5 tines a week saying how hard she is finding things and that she is struggling with no sleep, how difficult BF is, that she doesn't want to leave the flat unless she has to in case the baby needs feeding. She was meant to meet me at baby clinic last Monday but didn't as she got halfway there and turned around because her baby was crying. Her baby sleeps for approx 3 hour stretches and she gets up and does the feed then she hands the baby to her parents who stay with it until it's burped and back to bed. If the baby wakes up in the night and it's not feed time then her parents deal with it. I guess my point here is that she has lots of support. She has asked her mum to stay longer but nit sure if she is.
She sendsme emails where she is worrying about stuff to do with the baby, an example being one I got last night saying that her baby had just been sick for the first time and she was panicking something was wrong. Now as annabelle is permanently vomiting I just said that babies are sick sometimes for no major reason and if she is feeding and appears happy and no temperature she isprob fine. My point is that she seems to have disproportionate panics over things. Whether it be sick, or no. Of poos or how much she cries etc. I saw her at the weekend for the lunch we went to and her mum was telling me how she wasn't coping well and that when she went back to canadia she thought they would need to hire professional help.
She is still recovering from her section too and says she is still ib a lot of pain internally but scar has healed on the outside.
Every week I send a text or email asking if she wants to catch up. easy for me to pop over and I'm more than happy to and she just ignores my suggestion.
I guess I'm now thinking should I send an email saying that I'm worried about her and that I think it would help to talk and that I can come over. I guess be a bit more pointed and specific or should I just leave her? I know her mum is trying to help but she even said she doesn't know what more she can do. I fon't want to offend her or upset her though by making her think I think she isn't coping. Which of course I do think that but I also think that if she talks to someone it could help her before it gets put of hand.
If anyone has any thoughts I'd really appreciate it! Thanks
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hi girls...just a quickie here...loving the baby pics! We have the cutest babies here!
Hubby came home a day early! Yay! Max slept last night for 2.5 hours! That's the longest stretch we've had at night before! Jealous of all your sleeping babies!
Hubby came home a day early! Yay! Max slept last night for 2.5 hours! That's the longest stretch we've had at night before! Jealous of all your sleeping babies!
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Well done to all the sleeping babies.
Niamh has been poorly but luckily has begun to clear up! I got one of those nasal (suck the snot out) things and it did not work very well. From the advice of DM I got a saline spray (by Calpol) it was really good and caused her to sneeze which in the process dislodged alot of it. I also got childrens olbas oil it says from 3 months but I just but it on pillows in the room so it was in the air (seemed to help) also having her in the sreamy bath room helped!
It was horrible and was really hard for her to feed but she is alot better today. Caz i would jump on it before it gets worse I left N's for a bit thinking it would clear itself, it didnt
oh and sitting them upright really helps with the breathing too.
Niamh has been poorly but luckily has begun to clear up! I got one of those nasal (suck the snot out) things and it did not work very well. From the advice of DM I got a saline spray (by Calpol) it was really good and caused her to sneeze which in the process dislodged alot of it. I also got childrens olbas oil it says from 3 months but I just but it on pillows in the room so it was in the air (seemed to help) also having her in the sreamy bath room helped!
It was horrible and was really hard for her to feed but she is alot better today. Caz i would jump on it before it gets worse I left N's for a bit thinking it would clear itself, it didnt
oh and sitting them upright really helps with the breathing too.
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OMG - Logan slept last night from 930pm to 3am then from 330 -6:15am I feel great this morning 
Caz - try putting some Albas Oil on a hankie and leaving it in Ajay's room. I do this with Josh and it really helps him sleep when he is conjested. I tend to put it on Josh's pillow now he is older but when he was a babe I put it on a hankie and and put it on a shelf near his bed.
Hann - re your friend she may cope better when she is alone and has to cope but I would probably do as you suggest and send the e-mail saying you are worried about her and as a new mum yourself how about you come over and have a chat with her about how you handle things. would you recommend to her joining our group here so at least its not just you who she turns to with her questions thus aleviating some pressure on you? Although I can understand you may not wish to do that as it's your place to vent/discuss.
Jenni - glad your OH came home early to give you some relief.
frecvkles - Elliot sounds like he has sleeping sussed - what a clever boy.
wez - Jonathon is so cute in his glasses.
Sb - Yes you are mad considering another one so soon
But it just shows how well you have taken to being a mum.
amanda - sorry you are feeling this way. I think its quite normal to have periods where you feel like that as sometimes all I feel like I do is feed Logan, change him and wind him and do nothing else and you can become a bit resentful like you are no longer a person but a machine. I agree with Lindsay that if this feeling continues speak to your doctor.
sherri - love the annecdote about stress.
Re the PP bleeding. Mine only lasted 2 weeks and was incredibly light but thats because I lost a lot of blood when I had my c-section. I too thought I was starting my period yesterday as I had some bloody mucus but doesn't seem to have come to anything.
Caz - try putting some Albas Oil on a hankie and leaving it in Ajay's room. I do this with Josh and it really helps him sleep when he is conjested. I tend to put it on Josh's pillow now he is older but when he was a babe I put it on a hankie and and put it on a shelf near his bed.
Hann - re your friend she may cope better when she is alone and has to cope but I would probably do as you suggest and send the e-mail saying you are worried about her and as a new mum yourself how about you come over and have a chat with her about how you handle things. would you recommend to her joining our group here so at least its not just you who she turns to with her questions thus aleviating some pressure on you? Although I can understand you may not wish to do that as it's your place to vent/discuss.
Jenni - glad your OH came home early to give you some relief.
frecvkles - Elliot sounds like he has sleeping sussed - what a clever boy.
wez - Jonathon is so cute in his glasses.
Sb - Yes you are mad considering another one so soon
But it just shows how well you have taken to being a mum.amanda - sorry you are feeling this way. I think its quite normal to have periods where you feel like that as sometimes all I feel like I do is feed Logan, change him and wind him and do nothing else and you can become a bit resentful like you are no longer a person but a machine. I agree with Lindsay that if this feeling continues speak to your doctor.
sherri - love the annecdote about stress.
Re the PP bleeding. Mine only lasted 2 weeks and was incredibly light but thats because I lost a lot of blood when I had my c-section. I too thought I was starting my period yesterday as I had some bloody mucus but doesn't seem to have come to anything.
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Mel, Harrison is a cutie pie!
Hann, your MIL is ridiculous. You shouldn't be forced into having visitors. Also, impressive pumping. About your friend, it's a touchy situation. I think maybe you could offer to point her to resources for PND and say you thought they were helpful for you thought you'd pass them over. I know it's technically a lie, but it might feel better...just an idea.
Sherri, your post made for great reading during the nearly 4am feeding. Thank you for the entertainment.
SB and DM, you must be gluttons for punishment, although I will admit thinking about saving outgrown baby clothes "just in case."
Wez, J is adorable with his sun glasses. Congrats on the sleep
Caz, hope you get some better sleep. I have to say, 8:30-1:15 would be an accomplishment for me.
Freckles, 7hrs of sleep sounds amazing. Enjoy!
Simmy, 5hrs is great for that age. Jill barely ever sleeps that much. Most nights it's 4hrs and then 1-2hr blocks after that.
Jenni, glad hubby came home early.
Clarea, hope Niamh feels better soon. Love your new icon photo. What a cute smile!
Does anyone have advice for when the baby becomes hysterical and can't latch on properly? Jill started doing this partway through feeding. She started crying and kicking arms and legs and took about 5 minutes to calm down before she would re-latch. It's happened twice tonight. Hope she doesn't make a habit out of it.
Hann, your MIL is ridiculous. You shouldn't be forced into having visitors. Also, impressive pumping. About your friend, it's a touchy situation. I think maybe you could offer to point her to resources for PND and say you thought they were helpful for you thought you'd pass them over. I know it's technically a lie, but it might feel better...just an idea.
Sherri, your post made for great reading during the nearly 4am feeding. Thank you for the entertainment.
SB and DM, you must be gluttons for punishment, although I will admit thinking about saving outgrown baby clothes "just in case."
Wez, J is adorable with his sun glasses. Congrats on the sleep
Caz, hope you get some better sleep. I have to say, 8:30-1:15 would be an accomplishment for me.
Freckles, 7hrs of sleep sounds amazing. Enjoy!
Simmy, 5hrs is great for that age. Jill barely ever sleeps that much. Most nights it's 4hrs and then 1-2hr blocks after that.
Jenni, glad hubby came home early.
Clarea, hope Niamh feels better soon. Love your new icon photo. What a cute smile!
Does anyone have advice for when the baby becomes hysterical and can't latch on properly? Jill started doing this partway through feeding. She started crying and kicking arms and legs and took about 5 minutes to calm down before she would re-latch. It's happened twice tonight. Hope she doesn't make a habit out of it.
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Thanks for the advice Curlew and BV - both good ideas. I told her about this thread and just about BNB in general but I'm pretty sure she hasn't used it. I think she would have been better had she not had the c section but I think thats thrown her. I was thinking she wasn't coping that well but when her mum also said it it kind of confirmed it. I might drop her an email and just see how she is doing and just be a bit lighter on it, i.e. not say I'm worried so much but say that i'm around if she does want to talk. We have our NCT catch up on Monday with the tutor so maybe that will help her.
BV on the latching - Annabelle does it sometimes when she is getting some reflux so I take her off and burp her and then put her back on. Try that and see if it helps. It might not but its worth a go. They get so frustrated when they can't latch don't they?!
Curlew - yay for Logan sleeping - it must be what the article said if you have now been following that. I did it last night which is why I woke up with an almost exploding left side because I did two right feeds! But the sleep is sooo worth it!
Jenni - so glad your husband is home early - you deserve some 'you' time!
BV on the latching - Annabelle does it sometimes when she is getting some reflux so I take her off and burp her and then put her back on. Try that and see if it helps. It might not but its worth a go. They get so frustrated when they can't latch don't they?!
Curlew - yay for Logan sleeping - it must be what the article said if you have now been following that. I did it last night which is why I woke up with an almost exploding left side because I did two right feeds! But the sleep is sooo worth it!
Jenni - so glad your husband is home early - you deserve some 'you' time!
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Hann - I know it was a couple of pages back but there is a thread in baby club on pillows for flat heads that may interest you....
I also had the predicament that some of you have had. Last night J was asleep when we wanted to go to bed at 10 but i wanted to feed him so he didnt wake up in an hour. So, i tried a dreamfeed. Worked really well, he slept as normal them till 1am. Was quite pleased as i really thought he would wake up and then not settle. Will definately do it again if it starts to become a pattern! (not even going to use the word routine!)
I also had the predicament that some of you have had. Last night J was asleep when we wanted to go to bed at 10 but i wanted to feed him so he didnt wake up in an hour. So, i tried a dreamfeed. Worked really well, he slept as normal them till 1am. Was quite pleased as i really thought he would wake up and then not settle. Will definately do it again if it starts to become a pattern! (not even going to use the word routine!)
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Okay...trying to catch up a bit....
I still am bleeding and passing clots from my section....not too heavy, but am surprised every time I see a blood clot!
I was paranoid with Audrey about a flat head so I just made sure I always laid her facing different directions. Sometimes looking left, then right then straight. Her head is perfect and round now! I think a lot of babies with flat heads are just laying down to much...if you are holding your baby lots and baby wearing I don't think it should be a problem....but am going to check out that thread as this is my opinion...I've never actually read anything about it.
Max with sometimes unlatches and then fights me to re-latch....I find that he usually just needs a good burp or fart and he is good to go again!
So excited!! My baby wrap is going to be delivered tomorrow!! I hope Max and I like it!! Is anyone else baby wearing and if so what wraps, slings, carriers are you using?
I still am bleeding and passing clots from my section....not too heavy, but am surprised every time I see a blood clot!
I was paranoid with Audrey about a flat head so I just made sure I always laid her facing different directions. Sometimes looking left, then right then straight. Her head is perfect and round now! I think a lot of babies with flat heads are just laying down to much...if you are holding your baby lots and baby wearing I don't think it should be a problem....but am going to check out that thread as this is my opinion...I've never actually read anything about it.
Max with sometimes unlatches and then fights me to re-latch....I find that he usually just needs a good burp or fart and he is good to go again!
So excited!! My baby wrap is going to be delivered tomorrow!! I hope Max and I like it!! Is anyone else baby wearing and if so what wraps, slings, carriers are you using?
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i got a wrap off of ebay and wear it to take ds1 to nursery or short trips.
josh quite likes it, snuggled up to mummy and its much easier than getting out the double pram just to go the short distance.
josh quite likes it, snuggled up to mummy and its much easier than getting out the double pram just to go the short distance.
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I use a moby wrap and some thin slings. Katie loves to be carried and close - I take her on walks in the Moby and it keeps her content. The slings I use for quick trips when I'll be getting in and out of the car a lot.
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Thanks Georgie I hadn't seen that thread - very helpful!
I spoke to my friend from NCT - she called me and I just asked how she was doing. She was still panicking about her baby throwing up once - I told her again that loads of babies throw up and unless she has a temperature or looks in pain then she is probably fine. She was considering taking her to a&e. Anyway her parents have now said they will stay until October to help so thats good at least. I asked if she wanted me to pop over to talk about stuff and she said she was too tired because she had stayed up with the baby after it had thrown up making sure it didn't choke. I am just hoping the NCT meet up next week is helpful for her. Its not nice seeing someone clearly in distress and not really being able to help them.
Just had a friend over for the past few hours which has been nice, though Annabelle screamed for a good proportion of it! She will hopefully sleep well tonight though as she hasn't slept all afternoon.
Hope everyone is having a good day and babies are doing well!
I spoke to my friend from NCT - she called me and I just asked how she was doing. She was still panicking about her baby throwing up once - I told her again that loads of babies throw up and unless she has a temperature or looks in pain then she is probably fine. She was considering taking her to a&e. Anyway her parents have now said they will stay until October to help so thats good at least. I asked if she wanted me to pop over to talk about stuff and she said she was too tired because she had stayed up with the baby after it had thrown up making sure it didn't choke. I am just hoping the NCT meet up next week is helpful for her. Its not nice seeing someone clearly in distress and not really being able to help them.
Just had a friend over for the past few hours which has been nice, though Annabelle screamed for a good proportion of it! She will hopefully sleep well tonight though as she hasn't slept all afternoon.
Hope everyone is having a good day and babies are doing well!
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Hann does your NCT friend have a hubby that you could talk to about this? i wonder what he makes of it all? Poor girl. We have an NCT girl a bit like that too - obviously everyone struggles a bit but I think she is REALLY struggling, i really feel for her. We were supposed to have a catch up at her house today but she cancelled at the last minute... Bit worrying. I'm going to make sure i keep emailing and texting her just to keep an eye.
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I was thinking I could say something to her hubby. Just had a text from her - she is in a&e with her baby getting them to check her out. I feel so bad for her because she has clearly worked herself into a state about her throwing up once. One of the other nct girls has now also emailed to say her baby is permanently throwing up and not to worry. Hopefully the doctors can reassure her anyway.
Simmy - sounds like your friend is similar - let me know if you or anyone has any ways to help her. I feel awful standing by and doing nothing but equally I haven't known her that long so not sure if it just looks like I'm interfering!
Simmy - sounds like your friend is similar - let me know if you or anyone has any ways to help her. I feel awful standing by and doing nothing but equally I haven't known her that long so not sure if it just looks like I'm interfering!
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BV – sorry I can’t help with latching as I’m FF’ing but I’m sure others will be able to advise.
Curlew – great sleeps form Logan, go him!
Clare – thanks for your advice on saline drops. I will go to the chemist tomorrow and get some.
Jenni – so pleased your hubbie came home early. He seems to work away a lot – is that in UAE or further afield? Sorry, I’m so nosey!!!
Hann – it sounds like your friend is having a hard time bless her. I’d definitely have a quiet word – I’m sure you will be able to gauge her reaction to your support.
I think I was like your friend sort of but not so extreme. I found it really hard in the first three weeks and only in the last week am handling things better. But actually doing things on my own is good for me and I hope your friend does the same too. I think it was hormones for me really. I wish she would come on here – I know how much support I have had from you ladies, I wish she would get the same too!!!
AFM – went to an NCT met up today, tums to tots, which was nice, As I couldn’t drive due to my c section, it was my first solo trip out! It felt really good to get out and about – it felt ‘normal’ and really nice. I then was at my MIL’s house – I’m there 3 times a week but it is really nice and she is good to spend time with. Managed a cheeky hour nap too!!
Curlew – great sleeps form Logan, go him!
Clare – thanks for your advice on saline drops. I will go to the chemist tomorrow and get some.
Jenni – so pleased your hubbie came home early. He seems to work away a lot – is that in UAE or further afield? Sorry, I’m so nosey!!!
Hann – it sounds like your friend is having a hard time bless her. I’d definitely have a quiet word – I’m sure you will be able to gauge her reaction to your support.
I think I was like your friend sort of but not so extreme. I found it really hard in the first three weeks and only in the last week am handling things better. But actually doing things on my own is good for me and I hope your friend does the same too. I think it was hormones for me really. I wish she would come on here – I know how much support I have had from you ladies, I wish she would get the same too!!!
AFM – went to an NCT met up today, tums to tots, which was nice, As I couldn’t drive due to my c section, it was my first solo trip out! It felt really good to get out and about – it felt ‘normal’ and really nice. I then was at my MIL’s house – I’m there 3 times a week but it is really nice and she is good to spend time with. Managed a cheeky hour nap too!!
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Hi ladies
Hann, your friend does sound like she is struggling a bit, bless her, i agree a chat to her hubby may be a good way to go. Hope you had a good afternoon with your friend.
Jenni, enjoy your baby wrap! We have a carrier that OH uses sometimes when we go out for a walk, i think Harrison likes it, he just falls asleep!
B Bear, ive heard of dreamfeeding but what exactly is it and how do you go about it?
Re the bleeding, mine has all but stopped, just get a tiny bit of brown discharge now and again, so still wearing a liner.
We had a lovely day today, walked for about 5 miles, had a picnic lunch in the park before coming home, my legs were seriously aching though when we got home!
Re the situation with my mum, why is it she can make me feel guilty without even saying anything, i sensed today on the phone that she seemed a bit off, she said she isnt going to see us till wed evening when we have pre arranged to anyway and tomorrow she is coming over this way to see my grandad, well she is "popping in" before she picks him up, has asked us to meeet them for lunch and then offerered to watch Harrison for half hour in the afternoon while we go to the cinema, which i accepted. She just sounded a bit sorry for herself on the phone though but ive decided im not going to worry about it, im not wasting time worrying when i can enjoy my little family, and the last 2 weeks Alan has got off before he goes back to work!
Hann, your friend does sound like she is struggling a bit, bless her, i agree a chat to her hubby may be a good way to go. Hope you had a good afternoon with your friend.
Jenni, enjoy your baby wrap! We have a carrier that OH uses sometimes when we go out for a walk, i think Harrison likes it, he just falls asleep!
B Bear, ive heard of dreamfeeding but what exactly is it and how do you go about it?
Re the bleeding, mine has all but stopped, just get a tiny bit of brown discharge now and again, so still wearing a liner.
We had a lovely day today, walked for about 5 miles, had a picnic lunch in the park before coming home, my legs were seriously aching though when we got home!
Re the situation with my mum, why is it she can make me feel guilty without even saying anything, i sensed today on the phone that she seemed a bit off, she said she isnt going to see us till wed evening when we have pre arranged to anyway and tomorrow she is coming over this way to see my grandad, well she is "popping in" before she picks him up, has asked us to meeet them for lunch and then offerered to watch Harrison for half hour in the afternoon while we go to the cinema, which i accepted. She just sounded a bit sorry for herself on the phone though but ive decided im not going to worry about it, im not wasting time worrying when i can enjoy my little family, and the last 2 weeks Alan has got off before he goes back to work!
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