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Dealing with azoospermia?

Canadian I hope you are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel soon. Hearing such devistating sperm results is never easy. I remember the time my husband got his first zero sperm results like it was yesterday. It happened four years ago but it is still vivid. We had only been married six months. I was devistated and so was he. He would get angry every time I'd mention it. So, rather than put our marriage in jeopardy, I swept it under the rug. I'd bring it up every once in a while to test the waters and quickly bury it if things were still bad. It took my husband four years to come to terms with it enough to even kind of talk about it and even then it took me breaking down into tears and telling him I just needed someone to talk to. No one else that I knew was going through this and I just needed to talk. He finally opened up and is now actively trying to get treated. I'm not saying you need to wait four years. There's a little more to the story of my waiting, but I agree with everyone else. Try to brush it under the rug and let things settle a little. He may be more open to discussing once he's had time to sort through his feelings.
Sorry for the long story. I just wanted to share our story to let you know that you are not alone.
 
Thinking of you CM.... take all the time you need and when you are ready to come back, we will all be here for you! :hugs:
 
Canadian - sorry you are feeling down. I think we have all been there, the waiting sucks :nope:

Its more than a year since we were diagnosed and it seems like we've waited a lifetime looking back, altough actually the time does go quickly. Its a rollercoaster though and I have had many dark times like you. Sending you massive :hugs:

I'm back on the iui train again now! Start stimming tonight - fingers crossed this time. Hope everyone else is ok :wave:
 
I've just looked back and can't believe how long it has been since I've logged on here. I think it is partially because I have been in a bit of denial and partially (mostly) because I forgot my password and had major issues getting a new one :dohh:.

Anyway, DH and I had a full day of appointments yesterday. It was such an emotional day and I am absolutely exhausted today. It seemed to be all bad news - firstly, although DH has to do another SA "for our peace of mind", we've been told that there is no prospect of having his biological child. We've known this for a while now so not a big shock but still not nice to hear and to me the SA seems really condescending and a waste of time and money...

Then we saw my new FS. He is so much nicer than the one I saw last year and I do feel comfortable with him. DH was also very comfortable and he was able to give us far more information about DH than what DH's urologist was. He offered to refer DH to another urologist if we'd like but said that it was highly unlikely that anything would change which we accept. But he did mention that my AMH levels are a little low for my age (7.4) which wasn't explained to me last year and so has irrationally become a huge source of stress for me.

Then because of a change in the law here donors now not only have to be identifiable to any future child but also have to have undergone a counselling session with an accredited psychologist which means that there is an absolute shortage of DS and that for that reason, even though I am otherwise fine, clinics will not do IUI so I have to go straight to IVF. For the first time on this journey, I feel so resentful and angry at DH, my work, the world in general....

Now (and I know this is completely illogical) I just want to walk away from it all. I don't want to use a donor anymore and the thought of having a baby is absolutely terrifying me.

When we were looking through profiles yesterday I was being really, really picky. Our clinic is importing through European Sperm USA and I want to log onto their site to get more information about our potential donors but for some reason the site won't accept my postcode so I can't get in and can't make a decision about which donor to use.

Then we had to have our mandatory counselling session and because we haven't told anyone yet, we are being made to go away and think about it and to come back again. I feel like we are being made to rethink decisions that we have thought long and hard about by someone who knows nothing of our family dynamics and situation. As DH said, we will just lie when we go back if we have to.

Like I've said before, we have no issues with telling our child or our families but we wanted to be sure of the diagnosis and have made a definite decision about what we were doing before we went there. I am not in a good headspace and I don't want to hear what others think about our decisions. As you all know, they are not easy decisions to made and I still feel a little bit uncomfortable.

A few months ago I remember reading about a book you'd all suggested. Can anyone give me the title again? I need to get some perspective as I am not in a good headspace.
 
Aw kb - sending you massive hugs :hugs:

If it's the book I'm thinking if it's called Helping the Stork - The choices and challenges of donor insemination.

Sorry you are also upset about your amh - I know there are others on this thread who have been in the same situation xx
 
So sorry KB - this journey is tough.

It sounds like your AMH is measured in the same scale as mine was and mine was 1.4 :shrug: I was told it was surprisingly low for someone my age. Try not to get too wrapped up in it - it is mainly used so they know what doesage of meds to give you. It's more important how many follicles you have. I had 5 with one tiny one but there must have been some hiding because they got 8 mature eggs. I remember someone on here saying to me that sometimes if you have less follicles for the meds to work on, they are better quality

Thinking of you at this difficult time xx
 
So, we're scheduled for hubby's TESE on the 21st. For those of you who have already gone through this, how quickly did you get results back? We're excited but nervous!
 
Great news that things are moving for you.

We had our results pretty immediately. Hubby was told whilst they were still operating that they'd found one healthy motile sperm and we knew they'd found 2 more within an hour or so. They said they'd still be looking for another couple of hours but didn't find any more
 
Hey ladies! I'm new here although we've been dealing with our azoo diagnosis for 7 months. I've just spent several hours reading through your stories and is it ever amazing how our experiences are so different yet so similar.

For the past 3 months DH has been on hcg injections. Besides being treated for a low thyroid and previously being on testosterone supplements (would have been great to know the side affects of that prior to taking it- grrrr) all of his hormone levels came back normal- except for that ever important sperm. Tomorrow DH will take a SA to see if the injections worked. I am soooo terribly nervous, not to mention dreading the 48-72 hours they said it would take to get the results. Has anyone had experiences with hcg injections to treat azoo? I'm in a support group through my church but am the only one whose DH has azoo. Our RE says he's "cautiously optimistic" but really, the proof is in the pudding (ew- no pun intended) so we will have to see.

Glad to find this group- although I can't say it's fun to be a member of the exclusive azoo club that no one wants an invitation to:(.
 
Good luck Kendall. Never heard of hcg injection treatment for treating that but hope that you'll get some good news with that. Welcome to the group- sorry that you've been dealing with it but at least you'll find great support here too. :hugs:
 
Then we saw my new FS. He is so much nicer than the one I saw last year and I do feel comfortable with him. DH was also very comfortable and he was able to give us far more information about DH than what DH's urologist was. He offered to refer DH to another urologist if we'd like but said that it was highly unlikely that anything would change which we accept. But he did mention that my AMH levels are a little low for my age (7.4) which wasn't explained to me last year and so has irrationally become a huge source of stress for me.

Then because of a change in the law here donors now not only have to be identifiable to any future child but also have to have undergone a counselling session with an accredited psychologist which means that there is an absolute shortage of DS and that for that reason, even though I am otherwise fine, clinics will not do IUI so I have to go straight to IVF. For the first time on this journey, I feel so resentful and angry at DH, my work, the world in general....


Then we had to have our mandatory counselling session and because we haven't told anyone yet, we are being made to go away and think about it and to come back again. I feel like we are being made to rethink decisions that we have thought long and hard about by someone who knows nothing of our family dynamics and situation. As DH said, we will just lie when we go back if we have to.

Like I've said before, we have no issues with telling our child or our families but we wanted to be sure of the diagnosis and have made a definite decision about what we were doing before we went there. I am not in a good headspace and I don't want to hear what others think about our decisions. As you all know, they are not easy decisions to made and I still feel a little bit uncomfortable.

A few months ago I remember reading about a book you'd all suggested. Can anyone give me the title again? I need to get some perspective as I am not in a good headspace.

Yes, the book I recommended is Helping the Stork, as PL mentioned :thumbup: I found it very detailed and useful and it was great to read of other couples' experiences and those of the children themselves.

I'm sorry about how things are for you at the moment, KB.

My AMH was low for my age too (4.76 I think it was) and it freaked me out, but the clinic have said they have absolutely no worries because they saw 5 or 6 follicles in my luteal phase at my dildo-cam scan, so they're not concerned at all and it's just to guide them with regards to dosage of drugs. In fact, they said they'd be more worried if it was higher, as there would be a chance of hyper-stimulation, whereas it's very unlikely for me. 7.4 was classed as normal on the paperwork I was given :thumbup:

Our clinic actually recruits their own donors, so we can go to IUI. It's such a shame when ladies are forced to undergo IVF without trying IUI first for donor.

That's pretty shocking about the counselling. :growlmad: I don't see why they've done that? Is there any way you can call and say you've had your counselling and that's that and you don't want any more? It seems entirely unreasonable to make you do more just because you hadn't shared with family???

I agree with you entirely about not wanting to think about what others thing of your decisions. I was the same and when we told family we said we weren't looking for negativity or opinions - this was what we'd chosen to do and we needed them to be prepared and to accept it (if not straight away, then at least with time). It seemed to work for us, but I had warned DH that if anybody dared to say anything derogatory about our decision then I would snap! It's nobody's decision but your own as a couple.

Hope you're feeling in a better place soon, KB :hugs:

So, we're scheduled for hubby's TESE on the 21st. For those of you who have already gone through this, how quickly did you get results back? We're excited but nervous!

Unfortunately ours took 13 days. It was a lifetime, honestly, and ours was the same Consultant who did Deb's ... so I have no idea why there are different timescales. He did say DH's was being sent off for laboratory testing where they check to see exactly what stage any sperm are at in the creation stage and that's what took a long time. I really hope you hear shortly. I would advise to try and get an idea from the Consultant prior to the op, as it was a huge shock and upsetting to us on the day to find out we'd be waiting 2 weeks (we had previously been told the following day).

Hey ladies! I'm new here although we've been dealing with our azoo diagnosis for 7 months. I've just spent several hours reading through your stories and is it ever amazing how our experiences are so different yet so similar.


Glad to find this group- although I can't say it's fun to be a member of the exclusive azoo club that no one wants an invitation to:(.

Hi Kendall and welcome. Yeah we all know what you mean!

I've not heard of this for azoo before but I really do hope that it works. Keeping everything crossed for the 2 of you. :hugs:
 
Hi ladies,

I have just spent the past 2 hours reading through many of the post in this thread and I have been crying my eyes out for all of you and also for myself, unfortunatly.

DH and I have been married for 7 years and finally decided to start TTC this past October. After 5 cycles I just knew something was wrong. Our family docotor sent DH for a SA and we got the results on Thursday - no sperm in his sample.

I know you have all been through this horrible feeling. It really is the worst. I am barely functioning at the moment and feel extremely hopeless. DH is devestated as well. I know there is still hope but the road ahead of us feels so long. I am a planner and right now we can't plan anything - he has to do another SA as well as bloodwork and maybe that will tell us more but right now I am really struggling to cope.

You all seem so very nice and I hope you don't mind if I join in on this thread.

xo
 
:hugs: Oh Nightdaze. Not good that you just found out- but glad you managed to find us. This group is a godsend.
 
Nightdaze, welcome to the thread and I'm so very, very sorry to hear of your news :hugs:

Like you say, we've all been there and it's absolutely devastating and I remember the feelings you're experiencing right now with deep sadness and pain.

You're right though - it isn't the end of the road just yet. Do you live in the UK? If so, you can spend lots of time chasing the NHS to do things and can speed things up quite a bit. It took us 7 months from finding out about DH's zero sperm count to having the biopsy done on the NHS, with loads of things going on in the meantime. Be prepared for uneducated medical professionals and having to do the research yourself and nagging for tests etc.

At the beginning nothing much happens at all but in a way I think this is a good thing because you really need the first few weeks to process the information and just deal with it. The emotions involved have been medically described as being the same as grieving the loss of a loved one. Please take your time to deal with these emotions and don't forget to talk to one another and give each other huge amounts of hugs and love. You both need it now more than you likely ever have.

Thinking of you x
 
Kendall,
My husband and I are about the same as you. My husband was on testosterone and has now been taking hcg for about three months. He had a sperm sample taken a couple of days ago but we haven't gotten the results yet. I'm guessing, just from the way he's able to perform, (he'd kill me if he saw me writing about this!) at least his testosterone is good. I can only hope that the results will be good. It's been a few days so I think I will call to see if there are any results back yet.
Good luck on your results! It's good to see someone else going through the same treatment! We can talk and compare notes. Does your husband get headaches and seem extra grumpy on hcg?
 
Welcome Kandall and Nightdaze :flower: So sorry you're both going through this. SB has put it perfectly as usual :thumbup: When you get this kind of news, it is a grieving process - you are grieving the chance of ever being able to do this naturally at the very least and that is hard to deal with, but there are many successes in this thread - one way or another we WILL all get there.

I've heard of HCG injections - it was something they considered for my hubby but decided on the arimadex / tamoxifen instead.

AFM, had my early pregnancy scan today - all went brilliantly and everything is just as it should be. Heartbeat was flickering away really strongly so she switched the machine on so we could hear it - INCREDIBLE!!! :cloud9:
 
Hi and welcome to the newbies! Sorry to see you here, but we have all been there in your shoes in one way or another at some point in time... but know that we are here for all the support you need anytime!!! :hugs:

Deb... YAY! I can only dream of the day I can hear a little heartbeat on the screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You MUST be over the moon!!!! :happydance:

Hope everyone else is doing good! I didn't have time to read through all the personals, but wanted to stop in to give out some love!

AFM- nothing to report.... still in waiting-limbo hell. Waiting on af to show up so I can start my first round of clomid and CD21 bloods after ov. May needs to HURRY THE HELL UP! :haha: I spend allllll my free time in the gym to make it go by faster, but it doesn't. :nope: That's about it for me! Oh, and guess we will start to official donor search and picking out "the one" next month! Guess that is something to look forward to! :shrug:
 

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