Dealing with azoospermia?

[snd80]

Deb- Hope you get to feeling better soon! Hugs!

 

[silverbell]

Thank you Step for the input! I really didn't search too much into it after what the doctor told me, but me being me and having shitty luck always following me, I didn't want to risk anything! So we picked a - donor...........

And drum rolll!!!!! I placed my order this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 vials and shipping and $1900 dollars later, our spermies will be in Jackson MONDAY!!!! I am SOOO freaking excited!!!!

They called me this morning and said my progesterone levels were great! So I have my annual exam for the 30th of this month, which if my cycles are still on track it will be CD12-CD14, so I can also have my scans done to see if the good side is producing, and maybe, just maybe, we can go for the 1st try!!!! It is like we have been in limbo forever, and now it is all happening soooo fast!

Great news! I was on such a high when we chose our donor. It's such a major thing and it felt so good to have gotten to that stage. Well done to you both and I'm praying your ovaries play nicely and ovulate from the good side soon. Fingers crossed!

 

[Stinas]

snd - thats AMAZING news!!!! WOW that happened super fast!!! Yay! How exciting!!!

 

[CanadianMaple]

I'm just about to have supper and will be back for personals in a bit. Just wondering what you would do in my situation. We have been waiting 5 months to see the urologist DH's family doctor sent. They called today to book his appointment and he said he didn't need it since he will see the RE's urologist soon.

We know he has low T (very, very low) and are still waiting for the last genetic test result before they send us to their urologist. They said it takes about 4 weeks to see him after the referral is put in.

Should he have gone to that one anyway or should we just wait another 6 weeks or so to see the one that would do the TESE if he is eligible?

Ahhh! So frustrating to say no to an appointment after waiting FIVE months to see a urologist.

 

[Stinas]

CanadianMaple - Thats a long time to wait!!!! Im sorry!!! That sucks big time! I dont understand why it takes soooo long just to see a freaking doctor! Thats frustrating. I would just go see the doc who can see you the earliest. Its enough of a frustrating thing to go through what we are going through, but to have to wait on top of that....its just wrong.

 

[CanadianMaple]

Stinas- waiting for the genetic tests has been brutal, especially since they won't book anything until they are in. I feel very frustrated tonight.

Sdn80- omg! I'm excited for you, everything is speeding along for you. You must be so excited!

 

[Stinas]

Canadian - Im sorry!! Hope it all gets sorted out soon~!

 

[silverbell]

Hey everybody.

I'm very sad to say that I got a very early, very surprising and very nasty AF this morning. I'm only 9dpiui (8 day luteal phase).

My clinic say they can't explain it, but it can happen sometimes. I'm hoping to get some better answers at my scan next weekend to check on follie size for cycle 2.

 

[snd80]

CM- Oh no honey! That sucks! In this terrible game of azoo, we all have the patience of saints after all the waiting and waiting and waiting some more! Hope it speeds up soon for you!

SB- *sigh* I don't know what to say! Massive to you lady! That broke my heart to read!!!!! I was praying hard for it to work for you the first try!!!! Keep your head up sweetie!

 

[Stinas]

I'm sorry silver!!

 

[CanadianMaple]

I'm so sorry Silver. It's not fair.

Update to my panicked post last night. I called the RE clinic and his results are in! We finally can see the fertility Urologist on May 10!!!!

 

[snd80]

Yay CM! Won't be too long!

AFM- started to "pink" a little today, so might be sooner than expected! =)

 

[Deb111]

So sorry SB - I don't know what to say xx

 

[Stinas]

Canadian - Yay!!!

SND - Yay for pink! hehe

 

[Deb111]

I'm so sorry Silver. It's not fair.

Update to my panicked post last night. I called the RE clinic and his results are in! We finally can see the fertility Urologist on May 10!!!!

Have updated front page with your appt xx

 

[Stinas]

Just got off the phone with DH....doc called and said all his bloodwork came back normal. He goes for his SA on monday and then once we get that back I think he needs to do a sonogram on the balls.

Is this good that its not hormonal? Doc told him that its actually harder to fix if its hormonal?

 

[Deb111]

As for which is easier to fix, there seem to be so many different issues / combinations of issues that can cause azoospermia, I really don't know

However, although no test results can tell you 100% whether they will find sperm to remove surgically or not, normal blood test results (in terms of hormones) certainly suggest it could be a blockage as the body has no need to increase FSH / LH to solve the problem of no sperm production, because it senses there is normal sperm production - fingers crossed for you xx

 

[Stinas]

Thanks deb! I sure hope so!!!
The normal test results gave me some hope!

 

[rdleela]

Hi, ladies, well, been stalking this awesome thread a tiny bit, but haven't posted yet. Been messaging a bit with Cdn Maple, and Stinas, we were on some of the same threads a few months ago - sorry to see we both ended up in this position

Anyways, we're in northern Alberta in a small town; I'll be 33 next month, DH is 36. Been actively TTC since last August, have a great doctor who ordered an SA for DH very quickly. Got the zero sperm news two days before my grandfather passed away, he was in the hospital at the time. I put away my shock for a few weeks after that, then this news we got finally started to sink in.

No problems with me, I just have a short luteal phase, progesterone really worked for me back when I thought we had sperm. I'm overweight, trying to lose some weight. I did have a really weird cycle recently, MASSIVE horrible ovulation pain, went to ER. Had ultrasounds and xrays next day, just proved I have no issues and got some quick, easy ultrasounds! lol, turns out just a large follicle that grew too fast that caused the pain and I don't think I ovulated b/c of it. Did a ton of research on it, sounds like a non-issue.

Anyways, back to DH; did a second SA, zero sperm. Had an ultrasound, found a cyst on left side. It actually causes him a lot of pain (has actually had some pain for the last year). All his blood work came back normal. His SA's both came back with high white blood cell counts, low volume and high pH, which from what I read leans towards blockage.

DH had a testicular biopsy done this morning! Did not get any opinion from doctor on what he saw in tissue sample, so we just have to wait a couple of weeks to find out.

If we have no sperm, we will move on to adoption. DH is against sperm donor, and I would be sad that I wouldn't get to experience pregnancy, but I respect DH's concerns, so adoption it will be! I've always wanted to adopt, so I'll be happy with that.

If we DO have sperm, it will depend on the advice we get, I guess! If straight on to IVF/ICSI is the advice, that's what we'll do. My preferred option is blockage by-pass surgery; hopefully it will be an option for us. From everything I've read about these surgeries, the skill of the doctor will determine the success of the surgery, so I've found a surgeon in Prince George, BC who specializes in these types of surgeries. I'm not feeling comfortable with the surgeon in Edmonton, just b/c he doesn't specialize in these surgeries, but he did tell me this morning that he does do them.

Looks like it will cost us $6000 for the surgery, plus travel costs if we decide to go with the specialist. Does anyone on this thread have any experience with the surgeries? Or were you given the choice between surgery and IVF/ICSI? Why did you choose to go the routes you chose? Any advice would be helpful!

And sorry for the insanely long post! Looking forward to getting to know you ladies!

 

[Deb111]

Hi rdleela and welcome

So sorry to hear about your diagnosis, but it sounds like you're dealing with it well and have done a lot of research.

In terms of the blockage bypass surgery, I've not heard of it unless we call it something different here In terms of actually repairing blockages, what I've read and been told is that it doesn't have a very high success rate at all and therefore they will usually prefer to just do a surgical soerm retrieval rather than attempting to repair a blockage.

It frustrates me that so many couples are having to wait so long for biopsy results. I wonder if they are being frozen and looked at later? because when we had our biopsy on the NHS, they told hubby whilst they were still doing the procedure that they had found one healthy motile one and we had the full results within 3 hours. Then when he had the private mTESE, the wouldn't take me down for EC until they had confirmation that they had sperm so we knew within 2 hours. It just seems cruel to keep people waiting so long Anyway I really hope it's good news for you.

You will get great support her whatever route you decide to go down xx