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Dealing with azoospermia?
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deafgal01
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Deb- can you update front page for me- My tests all came back clear but not as lucky for DH- 0 count in SA 3 times so far by urologist. DH currently on Clomiphene Citrate along with Anastrozole. DH's Biopsy results says that it's not blockage issue even though sperms have been found in testes (mobility seems to be an issue) as of July 23, 2012. Currently thinking about donor sperm route (out of 3 options we've been given, 1) DH stays on meds, 2) ivf with sperm retrieval, and 3) sperm donor.
As for all the other ladies on here-
to all of you who are in need of some support right now.
to all of you undergoing iui or ivf to get your babies this month/cycle.
As for all the other ladies on here-
to all of you who are in need of some support right now. to all of you undergoing iui or ivf to get your babies this month/cycle.
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Deafgal: sorry about the results 
that's a tough decision to make for you guys. Its never easy discussing donor sperm... My DH shuts me down if I try to discuss it. He gets very angry.
I never posted my dh blood results. I dont know if anyone has any opinions on them or seem similar:
Prolactin: 9.8
LH: 9.03
FSH: 13.320 (urologist said this needs to be under 3 which confuses me because the range is 1.4-18.1)
Testosterone: 205.530 (low, range 241.00-827.00)
Estradiol: 52
so he had low testosterone, high fsh and borderline high LH.... he gave us no options at the time other than the mTESE, which we didnt do... Our urologist was terrible (in my opinion, others do like him)..
I had my saline sonogram today... all clear! Cavity finally looks good
Free and clear of that big honker of a fibroid that was occupying half my pelvis!
that's a tough decision to make for you guys. Its never easy discussing donor sperm... My DH shuts me down if I try to discuss it. He gets very angry. I never posted my dh blood results. I dont know if anyone has any opinions on them or seem similar:
Prolactin: 9.8
LH: 9.03
FSH: 13.320 (urologist said this needs to be under 3 which confuses me because the range is 1.4-18.1)
Testosterone: 205.530 (low, range 241.00-827.00)
Estradiol: 52
so he had low testosterone, high fsh and borderline high LH.... he gave us no options at the time other than the mTESE, which we didnt do... Our urologist was terrible (in my opinion, others do like him)..
I had my saline sonogram today... all clear! Cavity finally looks good
Free and clear of that big honker of a fibroid that was occupying half my pelvis!
deafgal01
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MoBaby- that's some good news on the fibroid front. 
That sucks that the urologist you had was horrible.
It is hard realizing our three options are that. I'd love to do ivf with sperm retrieval but I don't think I could make DH go thru that again- and I'm not sure how successful it'd be for us. So technically and financially I don't think we can justify the costs if we took that route. Thus it leaves us with option 1 or 3- 1 being the meds with some hopeful wishful thinking and 3 being donor. So that's why we're both thinking we'll be fine with sperm donor but we still have quite a ways to go before we're ready for that route- there's questions we need to ask the dr and the pricing we need to find out if/when we buy the donor sperms. DH will keep taking the meds until he runs out of the clomid version.
That sucks that the urologist you had was horrible. It is hard realizing our three options are that. I'd love to do ivf with sperm retrieval but I don't think I could make DH go thru that again- and I'm not sure how successful it'd be for us. So technically and financially I don't think we can justify the costs if we took that route. Thus it leaves us with option 1 or 3- 1 being the meds with some hopeful wishful thinking and 3 being donor. So that's why we're both thinking we'll be fine with sperm donor but we still have quite a ways to go before we're ready for that route- there's questions we need to ask the dr and the pricing we need to find out if/when we buy the donor sperms. DH will keep taking the meds until he runs out of the clomid version.
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I agree with you guys, but I kind of like feeling hopeful at the moment. I will cross the other path when that time comes. If I wallow, it will only make things much worse. Today has been a bad day with all of this... Haven't cried this hard since we received dh's first SA results. I wish this would all just go away...
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Hey all, just wanted to let you all know I'm back from vacation and have been lurking. Vacation was a great help to start getting through the grieving process. It still hurts when I think about what almost was but hubby and I had some great time together and are definitely doing better. We've decided to move on to donor IUI since we only have 1 vial of hubby's sperm left frozen and they used 4 for our last IVF and only ended up with 2 embryos. We're worried that another time may end up in another miscarriage because of sperm quality and if we did IVF and another TESE we could only go through one time where donor IUI we could afford to do it again if we need to. We even picked out a donor while we were away. I'm just having trouble ramping up for another cycle when I'm so scared we'll get the same results. Hope everyone else is doing well.
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Canadian~ I'm sorry things are tough right now. I just wanted to send you some hugs.
raelynn~ I'm glad to see you back. I've been thinking about you and wondering how you are doing. Sounds like you guys had a wonderful vacation and some much needed time away. I wish you all the luck in the world with the donor IUI. If you want to join (and are ready) there is a thread for donor IUI that Canadian made for us.
to everyone else. I have been limiting my posting in here but I want you all to know that I'm cheering you on and hoping for the best.
I'm sorry things are tough right now. I just wanted to send you some hugs.raelynn~ I'm glad to see you back. I've been thinking about you and wondering how you are doing. Sounds like you guys had a wonderful vacation and some much needed time away. I wish you all the luck in the world with the donor IUI. If you want to join (and are ready) there is a thread for donor IUI that Canadian made for us.
to everyone else. I have been limiting my posting in here but I want you all to know that I'm cheering you on and hoping for the best.
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Hello everyone
I'm sorry to see so many people struggling at the mo' I wish we could all have answers, it's so, so cruel.
I had my supressed scan today - with a Dr who hadn't looked at my notes. Sheesh. His first question was "Have you had an operation?".. I knew where he was going with this. It's my left ovary, it's very high-up and even with pushing, it didn't want to co-operate. He also mumbled something about cysts, but even with that I'm starting the Gonal-F (just waiting for a call to tell me when/amounts and next test/scan).
I asked what can we do about my ovary and there's nothing, just have to see how it goes. What with my husband's one frozen, "twitchy" sperm and now what might be only one ovary working with me, I'm not feeling at all confident about this cycle.
My head really isn't in the right place at the moment - we're finishing up at my dad's home, so it really feels like I'm saying goodbye to my parent's all over again and I swear these ruddy hormones aren't helping.
Okay, mope over, I'm going to curl up on the sofa with a pack of chocolate chip cookies.
Sending all of you huge and the strength, from somewhere, to get through this and make our dreams come true. We ALL deserve this so much!!
C xx
I'm sorry to see so many people struggling at the mo'
I wish we could all have answers, it's so, so cruel. I had my supressed scan today - with a Dr who hadn't looked at my notes. Sheesh. His first question was "Have you had an operation?".. I knew where he was going with this. It's my left ovary, it's very high-up and even with pushing, it didn't want to co-operate. He also mumbled something about cysts, but even with that I'm starting the Gonal-F (just waiting for a call to tell me when/amounts and next test/scan).
I asked what can we do about my ovary and there's nothing, just have to see how it goes. What with my husband's one frozen, "twitchy" sperm and now what might be only one ovary working with me, I'm not feeling at all confident about this cycle.
My head really isn't in the right place at the moment - we're finishing up at my dad's home, so it really feels like I'm saying goodbye to my parent's all over again and I swear these ruddy hormones aren't helping.
Okay, mope over, I'm going to curl up on the sofa with a pack of chocolate chip cookies.
Sending all of you huge
and the strength, from somewhere, to get through this and make our dreams come true. We ALL deserve this so much!!C xx
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So sorry that this has been a rough patch for many. Perhaps just the time of year.
CM - I found that when I was on BCP that were monophasic, I was a nasty witch (perhaps my reaction to them), but when I went on tri-phasic BCP, they are awesome, and my hormones level out, so perhaps they could switch you off the ones you're on and put you on something else - sounds like it's not doing what it should.
As for me - the fertility clinic called and all the test results are in from the millions of tests, so they finally would make an appointment, so we're set to go back for all the results on September 6th at 9am. I'm quite impatient, but again, I don't know if I want the bad news that will likely ensue, but I guess I have to understand what is going on sooner than later. I was surprised that the doc wanted to check me out so much (did the SHG test along with a million blood tests), given that DH has no sperm, it may not matter whether I can have kids or not, but I guess it's better to have the full picture when she's making a recommendation of how we could proceed forward.
Hopefully today is a better day for everyone...
Brandy
CM - I found that when I was on BCP that were monophasic, I was a nasty witch (perhaps my reaction to them), but when I went on tri-phasic BCP, they are awesome, and my hormones level out, so perhaps they could switch you off the ones you're on and put you on something else - sounds like it's not doing what it should.
As for me - the fertility clinic called and all the test results are in from the millions of tests, so they finally would make an appointment, so we're set to go back for all the results on September 6th at 9am. I'm quite impatient, but again, I don't know if I want the bad news that will likely ensue, but I guess I have to understand what is going on sooner than later. I was surprised that the doc wanted to check me out so much (did the SHG test along with a million blood tests), given that DH has no sperm, it may not matter whether I can have kids or not, but I guess it's better to have the full picture when she's making a recommendation of how we could proceed forward.
Hopefully today is a better day for everyone...
Brandy
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cbergs - I hope the specialist helps you put your mind at ease with the decision you decide to make!
I agree and feel the same! The doc kept telling us its the blockage and he was 99% sure there is sperm....well...he was wrong....granted we found enough in the tissue for IVF, but I feel if he just told us there was a 50/50 chance, it would have been easier to cope with. I think no matter what your blood levels are you just never know what your going to find. They found a "blockage" cyst in DH's prostate and all his tests we normal, even genetic, and they found just a couple sperm. So you just never know in my opinion.
Its just sad its not something that can be easily fixed. We can turn our home lights on from our phones now, you would think this would be an easy thing to fix.
CM - I am sorry you are having a tough time right now. I also agree with deb...we are all here to support each other...happy situations or not....we are all in this together. At the end of the day we all want the same for each other.
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raelynn - Im glad you had a great time on your vacation! I wish you all the luck in the world with DIUI! I know its hard not to be scared, but just know we are all here routing you on!
Tiger - I wish you lots of luck with this IVF cycle!!! All you need is one!
MoBaby - Whoohoo Thats great news!
As for me...my estimated ER is now sat or sunday! I go in every day now, so as time goes by I should know an official date.
I hope the specialist helps you put your mind at ease with the decision you decide to make!Speaking from experience if it does happen to be nothing found at biopsy and you've been thinking too optimistically the result can really hurt... I sometimes think if I hadn't got too excited before the tese, the weeks after the result wouldn't have been so bad
I agree and feel the same! The doc kept telling us its the blockage and he was 99% sure there is sperm....well...he was wrong....granted we found enough in the tissue for IVF, but I feel if he just told us there was a 50/50 chance, it would have been easier to cope with. I think no matter what your blood levels are you just never know what your going to find. They found a "blockage" cyst in DH's prostate and all his tests we normal, even genetic, and they found just a couple sperm. So you just never know in my opinion.
Its just sad its not something that can be easily fixed. We can turn our home lights on from our phones now, you would think this would be an easy thing to fix.
CM - I am sorry you are having a tough time right now. I also agree with deb...we are all here to support each other...happy situations or not....we are all in this together. At the end of the day we all want the same for each other.
DG -
raelynn - Im glad you had a great time on your vacation! I wish you all the luck in the world with DIUI! I know its hard not to be scared, but just know we are all here routing you on!
Tiger - I wish you lots of luck with this IVF cycle!!! All you need is one!
MoBaby - Whoohoo Thats great news!
As for me...my estimated ER is now sat or sunday! I go in every day now, so as time goes by I should know an official date.
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MoBaby - I don't understand your dr saying about the FSH needing to be below 3 either!? 
A raised FSH shows that your dh's body has recognised there is an issue. Your results are very similar to my dh's - slightly raised FSH, borderline LH and low test.
Rae - lovely to see you back. It sounds like the break has done you both good and allowed you the tie and space to come to some decisions. If you don't feel you're ready yet and are scared, don't rush into. Delaying things a couple of months wont hurt
MrsC - I hope you're doing ok and not feeling too tired and yuck!
TL - I hope the cookies helped and that you're feeling a bit better about things today
Hugs and thoughts to anyone I missed xx
A raised FSH shows that your dh's body has recognised there is an issue. Your results are very similar to my dh's - slightly raised FSH, borderline LH and low test. Rae - lovely to see you back. It sounds like the break has done you both good and allowed you the tie and space to come to some decisions. If you don't feel you're ready yet and are scared, don't rush into. Delaying things a couple of months wont hurt
MrsC - I hope you're doing ok and not feeling too tired and yuck!
TL - I hope the cookies helped and that you're feeling a bit better about things today
Hugs and thoughts to anyone I missed xx
MoBaby
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Yeah deb that urologist was lame. We wont be going back ever!
After our ivf baby we are goIng for another opinion I think. It may be a crap shoot but who knows!
Stinas: Saturday or Sunday for er!!!! Yippie!!!
Brandy: hi! Glad all your testing is over. Hope yo get some answers at your appt!
Rae: glad you are back and has a good time! Sounds like you and dh have a great plan.
Tiger: did the dr say anything about difficulty with egg collection with the ovary being so high? I've read about laparoscopic egg retrevial wih a hard to find ovary. Hope all goes well with stims!
After our ivf baby we are goIng for another opinion I think. It may be a crap shoot but who knows!
Stinas: Saturday or Sunday for er!!!! Yippie!!!
Brandy: hi! Glad all your testing is over. Hope yo get some answers at your appt!
Rae: glad you are back and has a good time! Sounds like you and dh have a great plan.
Tiger: did the dr say anything about difficulty with egg collection with the ovary being so high? I've read about laparoscopic egg retrevial wih a hard to find ovary. Hope all goes well with stims!
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Lucky me got a yeast infection, so it looks like ER will be monday. Just my luck. lol I guess I should not complain since it does not hurt....if it was not for the urine test I wouldnt even know.
Hope everyone is doing well!
Hope everyone is doing well!
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Had my HSG done today...worst-experience-ever! SO painful. I wasn't expecting it to be. It's a good thing I didn't research it beforehand, I wouldn't have made it to the hospital today.
Everything looks 100% normal though...so, that was good news.
Even in the wake of good news, it's coated with sadness. What good is it that I'M perfect down there if my DH doesn't have a single swimmer to provide me? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Everything looks 100% normal though...so, that was good news.
Even in the wake of good news, it's coated with sadness. What good is it that I'M perfect down there if my DH doesn't have a single swimmer to provide me? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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Cbergs - mine sucked too!! When I got mine we were still thinking it was me....little did we know what kind of news we would get a month later.
It all sucks. It's truly a continued grieving process that never seems to go away. Once you get the ball rolling on what's next for you guys, you will feel better.
It all sucks. It's truly a continued grieving process that never seems to go away. Once you get the ball rolling on what's next for you guys, you will feel better.
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Whatever the outcome ends up being, you need to have faith in your urologist and know that you / they did all you could
Cbergs - I'm sorry it was so tough. There really is nothing easy about this journey
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Hi ladies, hope all is well with you. i havent posted on here at all for the past few weeks, needed a break from all things TTC. Which has done me the world of good.
Update on us, no blockage, is Azoo and we are going forward for IVF with donor sperm. So i know its not what we hoped but there is still a light at the end of this tunnel.
Question - For ladies who have done IVF with donor, did the Dr try IUI first or straight to IVF. We have been referrred in the last few days and know an appt can take up to 26 weeks, BEFORE they actually put us on the list. Any Cardiff people done IVF here? x
Update on us, no blockage, is Azoo and we are going forward for IVF with donor sperm. So i know its not what we hoped but there is still a light at the end of this tunnel.
Question - For ladies who have done IVF with donor, did the Dr try IUI first or straight to IVF. We have been referrred in the last few days and know an appt can take up to 26 weeks, BEFORE they actually put us on the list. Any Cardiff people done IVF here? x
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Bumphopes. Sorry to hear nothing could be done. I'm sure you've had an emotional time over the last while. It sure is a tough reality to get used to.
However I found once you have a plan in place it eases the pain and you start to focus on the positives.
We are initially doing iui with donor as I have no known fertility issues. This generally is normal practice if no you have no issues, iui then onto ivf. They say after 3 goes at IUI if it hasn't worked it is best to move onto ivf. (as it should within 3)
Have you had to pick your donor as of yet?
However I found once you have a plan in place it eases the pain and you start to focus on the positives.
We are initially doing iui with donor as I have no known fertility issues. This generally is normal practice if no you have no issues, iui then onto ivf. They say after 3 goes at IUI if it hasn't worked it is best to move onto ivf. (as it should within 3)
Have you had to pick your donor as of yet?
