Dealing with azoospermia?

[Pink Lolly]

 

[Pink Lolly]

Hello ladies can i please join you all?

Bit about me n oh...

Im hayleigh and im 23 and matt is 25, we have a beautiful angel son Logan-george who was still born at 43 +2..

We have been ttc now for 35 cycles and nothing.. We have had tests and scans then the doctor refered us to the hospital..

Well oh's results had been lost in the hospital movement so the fs asked him to produce a new sample..

We got the results on thursday and there is no sperm present but there waa in previous tests, has this happened to anyone else?

We are waiting for ivf i have to lose 2 stone yet to get it on the nhs but we are not sure about using a sperm doner... Still in talking at the moment

thanks for reading x

Hey Hayleigh,

Welcome... I'm so so sorry for your loss xx i was reading about your OH and zero sperm my DH had a SA done which came back zero sperm and he done another on Tuesday so we are awaiting the results so nerve wrecking he hasn't had a previous child though so i wouldn't say we are the same situation but keep us posted x What does your BMI have to be for IVF??

Just a question for everyone...Does anyone who has been in similar situation know what happens after the 2nd SA? will they do more bloods then refer us to FS? or refer us first then do more test. My DH asked the DR and he just said we will cross that bridge wen it comes to it.. not helpful at all so nervous and anxious! Just want to get the ball rolling to have our own little

xxx

Hi Wifey

Welcome to the thread. I am in a similar situation to you - we had been TTC for 15 months when we went to the GP in October. In November my DH did his first SA and we received the devestating news that it contained no sperm. A repeat test in December confirmed the same. Our GP referred us to the Fertility Clinic and we had our first appointment in January. At this appoinment they took bloods from me and DH and booked me in for a mid cycle scan the following month.

We went back at the beginning of March for the results and all of DHs bloods came back normal. The consultant gave him a quick examiniation - he had an undescended testicle which was corrected as a child which has left one side damaged. The consultant is hoping to retrieve sperm from the good side using a PESA and we are currently on the waiting list for that and IVF (have been told it will take roughly 4 months until we can get started on first cycle). If the worst case happens and they find no sperm we will use a donor.

Hope that helps explain what may happen next for you. As for BMI - I think it depends on the eligibility criretia in your area. In our area both of our BMIs had to be below 30 to be eligible for funding. We were lucky as mine was only 24 and DHs was 30.1, which they said was OK!

Good luck and keep in touch with us xx

 

[Deb111]

I think our GP etc did things the wrong way round! We were referred to the fertility clinic without having any tests done so all our blood tests, scans, SA's were done once we had been referred

The NHS criteria for our area is below BMI of 30 for me and even though we're going to be going privately now, that's what I'm trying to get mine down to as I figure it's got to be better for me anyway BUT if I lived about 8 miles away, that PCT don't have a maximum BMI for NHS funding! CRAZY!

 

[wifeyw]

Hello ladies can i please join you all?

Bit about me n oh...

Im hayleigh and im 23 and matt is 25, we have a beautiful angel son Logan-george who was still born at 43 +2..

We have been ttc now for 35 cycles and nothing.. We have had tests and scans then the doctor refered us to the hospital..

Well oh's results had been lost in the hospital movement so the fs asked him to produce a new sample..

We got the results on thursday and there is no sperm present but there waa in previous tests, has this happened to anyone else?

We are waiting for ivf i have to lose 2 stone yet to get it on the nhs but we are not sure about using a sperm doner... Still in talking at the moment

thanks for reading x

Hey Hayleigh,

Welcome... I'm so so sorry for your loss xx i was reading about your OH and zero sperm my DH had a SA done which came back zero sperm and he done another on Tuesday so we are awaiting the results so nerve wrecking he hasn't had a previous child though so i wouldn't say we are the same situation but keep us posted x What does your BMI have to be for IVF??

Just a question for everyone...Does anyone who has been in similar situation know what happens after the 2nd SA? will they do more bloods then refer us to FS? or refer us first then do more test. My DH asked the DR and he just said we will cross that bridge wen it comes to it.. not helpful at all so nervous and anxious! Just want to get the ball rolling to have our own little

xxx

Hi Wifey

Welcome to the thread. I am in a similar situation to you - we had been TTC for 15 months when we went to the GP in October. In November my DH did his first SA and we received the devestating news that it contained no sperm. A repeat test in December confirmed the same. Our GP referred us to the Fertility Clinic and we had our first appointment in January. At this appoinment they took bloods from me and DH and booked me in for a mid cycle scan the following month.

We went back at the beginning of March for the results and all of DHs bloods came back normal. The consultant gave him a quick examiniation - he had an undescended testicle which was corrected as a child which has left one side damaged. The consultant is hoping to retrieve sperm from the good side using a PESA and we are currently on the waiting list for that and IVF (have been told it will take roughly 4 months until we can get started on first cycle). If the worst case happens and they find no sperm we will use a donor.

Hope that helps explain what may happen next for you. As for BMI - I think it depends on the eligibility criretia in your area. In our area both of our BMIs had to be below 30 to be eligible for funding. We were lucky as mine was only 24 and DHs was 30.1, which they said was OK!

Good luck and keep in touch with us xx

Thank u sooo much for explaining everything to me it helps alot!!!! How did your DH and u feel whenever you got the results.. we just wanted to lock ourselves away from everything and cry we felt so down after 1st one. soo soo happy for u that u are on ur way i'm really really hoping you can have a bio child.. thats another question if u don't mind me asking was ur DH upset at the fact of using donor sperm? we have talked alittle about it and its kind of mixed emotions on both sides. 4 months for first cycle isn't as bad as i thought, although at that time it might see a lifetime to wait but i thought it would be around 6 months to 8 months.

Did everything turn out ok with u, ur bloods come back normal too? would you have reg AF?

My DH has other complications like operations near there like hernia, when he was 16 he had kidney transplant which is now failing only working 25% and in 2002 he had lymphoma cancer. Which makes me think all the medication he's on for that could be causing harm to the sperm but when he asked the transplant dr and he said the medication shouldn't affect him fertility wise...

As for BMI I'm 31.7 DH is 24.. sooo need more to get that down haha they say thats best exercise How do you find out if you meet the critera through your FS or dr or just by looking on NHS website? I want to get down in weight anyways when i lost 3 1/2 stone for the wedding it gave me will power so hopefully this will i've me the motivation to get back on it again.. sooo hard tho, will get easier wen bright nights and summer comes tho

Wen have u to go back wat date did they give u one? let us know wat happens wen and if u find out anything else. xx GL with getting

 

[wifeyw]

I think our GP etc did things the wrong way round! We were referred to the fertility clinic without having any tests done so all our blood tests, scans, SA's were done once we had been referred

The NHS criteria for our area is below BMI of 30 for me and even though we're going to be going privately now, that's what I'm trying to get mine down to as I figure it's got to be better for me anyway BUT if I lived about 8 miles away, that PCT don't have a maximum BMI for NHS funding! CRAZY!

How long did it take ur DR to refer u's? i hate the thought of it being out of our hands and in limbo... I'm not very good with waiting my DH calls me Monica out of friends lol cause I have to have everything done yesterday... he finds it cute no idea y lol.

I've only seen girls saying it has to be under 30 for going to IVF i think i seen one girl saying as long as it's under 35 that's wat got me confused. Your right it's totally CRAZY i don't see the point!

Is ur BMI ticker right? cause if so we have the same weight to lose woo hoo we can push each other to get to there quicker... Monica style!! lol. Are you cutting down or exercising? How are u finding the whole weight loss thing?


Lots of hugs xxx GL

 

[Step Mummy]

Hi Hayleigh, welcome.

I am so sorry to hear of your loss, it must be really tough on you to now be in this situation!

My DH has unexplained infertility, he has a 19 year old son from his first marriage and they got pregnant first month of trying! And now - nothing at all! He had the SSR and they found sperm are not maturing. Completely unexplained, but something to do with hormones I think, they never really explained it to us.

Our only option now is using a donor, and although DH is really fine with it, I am not, I am struggling, I really want by DH's baby and I am strugglign with the whole thing. We will do it, I just need to get my head around it first. It's really strange - I am fighting one against the other - I really really want a baby but at the same time I don't want to do this! I am sure I just need time! I hope! Because DH has a son, the NHS won't do it for us, we have to go private, which after the nightmare with his SSR op (with NHS) this is no bad thing for us!

Althogh we have a problem, it is many many years since my DH had a baby so I can udnerstand a change in him, but for your DH, this must have been such a shock as you have been pregnant recently, so I would imagine the drugs he is taking is having an effect, but they should be able to tell you that. God you guys have had a tough time! you poor things,

The main thing is that the two of you talk to each other and be honest, also share it with someone close to you, do you have any friends who have had trouble conceiving, even if they ended up doing it natrually, I have my sister in law who got to IVF and found out they were pregnant when she was just about to start the drugs, and she is the only one who can really simpathise with me and understand as IVF was a real option for them, everyone else seems to just think we should get on with it, they just don't understand and their pressure does not help!

Good luck, I really hope you get some news that tells you what the problem is, also well done with the weight loss - keep it up thats great!
XX

 

[mumanddad]

Hi Hayleigh, welcome.

I am so sorry to hear of your loss, it must be really tough on you to now be in this situation!

My DH has unexplained infertility, he has a 19 year old son from his first marriage and they got pregnant first month of trying! And now - nothing at all! He had the SSR and they found sperm are not maturing. Completely unexplained, but something to do with hormones I think, they never really explained it to us.

Our only option now is using a donor, and although DH is really fine with it, I am not, I am struggling, I really want by DH's baby and I am strugglign with the whole thing. We will do it, I just need to get my head around it first. It's really strange - I am fighting one against the other - I really really want a baby but at the same time I don't want to do this! I am sure I just need time! I hope! Because DH has a son, the NHS won't do it for us, we have to go private, which after the nightmare with his SSR op (with NHS) this is no bad thing for us!

Althogh we have a problem, it is many many years since my DH had a baby so I can udnerstand a change in him, but for your DH, this must have been such a shock as you have been pregnant recently, so I would imagine the drugs he is taking is having an effect, but they should be able to tell you that. God you guys have had a tough time! you poor things,

The main thing is that the two of you talk to each other and be honest, also share it with someone close to you, do you have any friends who have had trouble conceiving, even if they ended up doing it natrually, I have my sister in law who got to IVF and found out they were pregnant when she was just about to start the drugs, and she is the only one who can really simpathise with me and understand as IVF was a real option for them, everyone else seems to just think we should get on with it, they just don't understand and their pressure does not help!

Good luck, I really hope you get some news that tells you what the problem is, also well done with the weight loss - keep it up thats great!
XX

Thank you for the reply, im dealing with it badly too it makes me think well its just like chesting on oh.... He seems to be ok though about it now..

I hsve looked at adoption so if he gets bsd results in a few weeks then wecare going to jointhe waiting list.
I reply more later once im in from work x

 

[Pink Lolly]

Wifey

Hi again Wifey - thanks for the good luck and glad to have been of help! It really is a horrible scary thing to have to deal with and I can imagine how you must be feeling.

When we first found out we were devestated like you - it was a Friday after work when we got the results and we both just broke down in tears when the GP told us. It was awful and we literally spent the whole weekend feeling miserable and crying I felt heartbroken like someone had died or something, I'll never forget that feeling. That was when I found this forum which has been a brilliant help to me so I'm glad you found us too! The girls here are fantastic and I am really grateful to them all

I know what you mean about being impatient, I have been exactly the same (have been driving DH Mad I think!) but the time does go by quicker than you expect.

Our GP was really good when he broke the news of the first SA - told us not to give up hope - he told us there was a chance they could retrieve sperm surgically through SSR and also mentioned using donor sperm. From the very beginning we both said that we would use a donor if we needed to and I think the way the GP introduced us to the idea really helped with that. Overall DH has been OK about using a donor as he really wants a baby - but he still has the occasional day when he gets upset about it all. I think it takes a while to get used to the idea and it is such a shock when you first get the results.

For me all of my results have been absolutely fine I have had bloods taken and an internal scan which was all OK and AF is fairly regular so no problems there either.

Funding wise - just after the GP referred us to the fertility clinic, they sent us a questionnaire to fill in and also some info which included the NHS funding eligibility criteria for our area. When we had our first appointment at the clinic, the nurse we saw went through it all with us and confirmed we were eligible We do only get funding for one go though so will have to pay for anything after that. Your BMI is not far off 30 anyway so it wont take long. To be honest even though mine is OK I have joined the gym and do exercise classes twice a week anyway as I want to be as healthy as possible for the treatment. I've also found it helps relieve some stress as well and makes the weeks go by quicker when busy!

I have put together a timeline below for you to see as a guide what has happened so far for us and when - hope this helps you. As you will see our GP referred us to the Fertility Clinic pretty early on which I think moved things along a bit but because there are lots of tests and appointments involved the time does go quickly -

5th October 2010 - First visit to GP as TTC for 15 months. GP ordered initial fertility blood tests for me and suggested SA for DH

20th October 2010 - Initial Fertility Blood Tests for me - Results 25th October were all normal. GP suggests Day 21 Blood Test (Progesterone) to check ovulation. GP made referral to Fertility Clinic.

5th November 2010 - Initial Questionnaire and Funding Criteria received from the Fertility Clinic

16th November 2010 - First SA for DH

19th November 2010 - Results of SA showed Zero Sperm - devesated

1st December 2010 - Day 21 Blood Test for Progesterone confirms I am ovulating

21st December 2010 - Second SA

5th January 2011 - Results of Second SA confirmed Zero Sperm

20th January 2011 - First Consulation at Fertility Clinic.
Blood Tests for me -AMH (Ovarian Reserve), Rubella and Chlamydia Antibodies - All results OK. Internal Scan order for the middle of next cycle.

Blood Tests for DH - Hormones (Testosterone, FSH and LH), Micro Y Deletions Cystic Fibrosis Carrier and Karyotype. All Results Normal.

BMI checked and confirmation that we are eligible for funding for our first cycle IVF/ICSI.

8th February 2011 - Internal scan on Day 11. Everything looks OK but nurse feels it is a little early in the cycle so orders Day 21 bloods to check ovulation. Results confirmed ovulation.

8th March 2011 - Second Appointment at Fertility Clinic. FS goes through all results, quick examination of DH reveals that the right testicle is damaged (this one was undescended and corrected as a child). Left side is normal so FS hopes to retrieve sperm from this side. Put on the waiting list for IVF/ICSI with PESA (trial PESA beforehand to see if sperm is found).

Now waiting IVF consultation appointment

So that's our story so far!! I hope that helps and sorry it has turned into such an essay! When do you get your next lot of results? Have you had any tests done yourself yet?

Take care and keep in touch

 

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[Dancergirl]

Hi ladies I've been reading this forum for awhile, but had yet posted. My wonderful husband and I are high school sweethearts, and recently wed last year, we had ntnp for about six years, and really started "focusing" last year- I knew something might be up, so with the start of 2011, I made an apt to see a fs. Wow, how our world changed, my husband was diagnosed with an azf-a micro deletion. After seeing a urologist, the chances of them finding sperm through a tese, was sooo rare ( in fact most research I've read with this deletion, none has been found), so we decided to try Iui with donor sperm... However, I was diagnosed with reduced ovarian reserve...so I'm currentlyntaking DHEA, along with acupuncture to hopefully increase my odds once we start our Iui cycles. ( we have to wait for at least three months, so looks like the end of may, we would hopefully start! Have any of you used DHEA and had good results? What about Iui with DS?

Hi Bodaciousajac.... just wanted to respond to your IUI with DS? My husband and I did IUI 4 times using DS while I was on the clomid pill. All four tries were unsuccessful. The doctor told us we only had one more option before we would have to turn to IVF (which we couldn't afford right now).

Starting on day 5, my DH had to give me a daily shot (HMG). I went in on day 9 to see if my follicles and lining were progressing as much as they would like. The decided to double my dose in the shots since the follicles were just slightly smaller than they liked. On day 11, I went back to the dr. Everything looked great and on day 12, instead of the HMG shot, my husband gave me the HCG shot that would trigger my ovulation to happen. Day 13 we went in for the IUI using DS. They also put me on progesterone trouche twice daily to help secure the pregnancy if it did take.

It was a painful month for both my husband who had to give me the shots and for me who had to get the shot each night. But it was totally worth it when we got the a few weeks later!!! We doubted the IUI with DS would work, but it did for us!!

Best of luck to you as you find the process that works for you!!

 

[wifeyw]

Wifey

Hi again Wifey - thanks for the good luck and glad to have been of help! It really is a horrible scary thing to have to deal with and I can imagine how you must be feeling.

When we first found out we were devestated like you - it was a Friday after work when we got the results and we both just broke down in tears when the GP told us. It was awful and we literally spent the whole weekend feeling miserable and crying I felt heartbroken like someone had died or something, I'll never forget that feeling. That was when I found this forum which has been a brilliant help to me so I'm glad you found us too! The girls here are fantastic and I am really grateful to them all

I know what you mean about being impatient, I have been exactly the same (have been driving DH Mad I think!) but the time does go by quicker than you expect.

Our GP was really good when he broke the news of the first SA - told us not to give up hope - he told us there was a chance they could retrieve sperm surgically through SSR and also mentioned using donor sperm. From the very beginning we both said that we would use a donor if we needed to and I think the way the GP introduced us to the idea really helped with that. Overall DH has been OK about using a donor as he really wants a baby - but he still has the occasional day when he gets upset about it all. I think it takes a while to get used to the idea and it is such a shock when you first get the results.

For me all of my results have been absolutely fine I have had bloods taken and an internal scan which was all OK and AF is fairly regular so no problems there either.

Funding wise - just after the GP referred us to the fertility clinic, they sent us a questionnaire to fill in and also some info which included the NHS funding eligibility criteria for our area. When we had our first appointment at the clinic, the nurse we saw went through it all with us and confirmed we were eligible We do only get funding for one go though so will have to pay for anything after that. Your BMI is not far off 30 anyway so it wont take long. To be honest even though mine is OK I have joined the gym and do exercise classes twice a week anyway as I want to be as healthy as possible for the treatment. I've also found it helps relieve some stress as well and makes the weeks go by quicker when busy!

I have put together a timeline below for you to see as a guide what has happened so far for us and when - hope this helps you. As you will see our GP referred us to the Fertility Clinic pretty early on which I think moved things along a bit but because there are lots of tests and appointments involved the time does go quickly -

5th October 2010 - First visit to GP as TTC for 15 months. GP ordered initial fertility blood tests for me and suggested SA for DH

20th October 2010 - Initial Fertility Blood Tests for me - Results 25th October were all normal. GP suggests Day 21 Blood Test (Progesterone) to check ovulation. GP made referral to Fertility Clinic.

5th November 2010 - Initial Questionnaire and Funding Criteria received from the Fertility Clinic

16th November 2010 - First SA for DH

19th November 2010 - Results of SA showed Zero Sperm - devesated

1st December 2010 - Day 21 Blood Test for Progesterone confirms I am ovulating

21st December 2010 - Second SA

5th January 2011 - Results of Second SA confirmed Zero Sperm

20th January 2011 - First Consulation at Fertility Clinic.
Blood Tests for me -AMH (Ovarian Reserve), Rubella and Chlamydia Antibodies - All results OK. Internal Scan order for the middle of next cycle.

Blood Tests for DH - Hormones (Testosterone, FSH and LH), Micro Y Deletions Cystic Fibrosis Carrier and Karyotype. All Results Normal.

BMI checked and confirmation that we are eligible for funding for our first cycle IVF/ICSI.

8th February 2011 - Internal scan on Day 11. Everything looks OK but nurse feels it is a little early in the cycle so orders Day 21 bloods to check ovulation. Results confirmed ovulation.

8th March 2011 - Second Appointment at Fertility Clinic. FS goes through all results, quick examination of DH reveals that the right testicle is damaged (this one was undescended and corrected as a child). Left side is normal so FS hopes to retrieve sperm from this side. Put on the waiting list for IVF/ICSI with PESA (trial PESA beforehand to see if sperm is found).

Now waiting IVF consultation appointment

So that's our story so far!! I hope that helps and sorry it has turned into such an essay! When do you get your next lot of results? Have you had any tests done yourself yet?

Take care and keep in touch

You were very lucky that your GP referred u quick thats wat i want to happen for us... it has happened quicker than i suspected on ur side. Hopefully we are as quick. sounds like you got a good GP! We have 2 seperate GP's which is a pain because it's in 2 different areas and as my GP is closest i would love my DH to join mine but because he has had all different medical issues and his GP is used to that he doesn't want to change as he knows his situation best. but hey ho i guess that takes longer going between the 2 aswell. anyways..

Last time i went to my doctor he ordered all different blood tests he said hes testing for all hormones levels etc and the usual checks they do and they all came back fine just showing i had PCOS which i knew anyway. I don't know the exact test that was done though

As for DH SA 2nd results we have to phone up on wednesday but i might phone up tuesday to see if they are back yet and if not phone again on wednesday... so nervous to hear it all over again. DH thinks they have it mixed up i think he doesn't want to accept it which is why i'm nervous because he hasn't got as emotional as me the 1st time he says he want to see wat the next result is so if its the same he's going to be so devastated. He says he wants there to be even a few just so he knows he's producing them.

I'm glad for you it's just one of you and not the 2 as it would have taken longer even though it would be better if none of u's had problems but it could be worse i guess - which i think it will with us because i have PCOS and wats going on with DH.

I've been trying to go to gym 3 times a week from before our wedding and cutting down i don't have much of an appetite and wen i do its carbs which is a no no for PCOS. I have to train myself into eatting properly through the day cause i'm stuck in this if i'm not hungry i don't eat thing. BMI isn't far off but I've seemed to hit a brick wall i think i need to up my workout abit more i agree with u it is a good stress releaser! I've tried the classes once or twice and i'm always conked out on the floor not being able to move after I done a body combat class and DH and his bro decided to come ( the only 2 men there haha) was funny cause DH was wanted to stop for water and the instructor kept shouttin at him was a kodak moment after the 45 min class we went back into the gym for another 2 hours yeah never again that whole week i was like a woman at 70!!!

Thank u so much for taking the time to write everything down for me. I hope you aren't waiting too long on the waiting list and i'm hoping everything goes smoothly whenever the time comes which i'm sure it will. I'll let u know how goes on tuesday/wednesday xxx U do the same

 

[Pink Lolly]

Wifey

Hi again Wifey - thanks for the good luck and glad to have been of help! It really is a horrible scary thing to have to deal with and I can imagine how you must be feeling.

When we first found out we were devestated like you - it was a Friday after work when we got the results and we both just broke down in tears when the GP told us. It was awful and we literally spent the whole weekend feeling miserable and crying I felt heartbroken like someone had died or something, I'll never forget that feeling. That was when I found this forum which has been a brilliant help to me so I'm glad you found us too! The girls here are fantastic and I am really grateful to them all

I know what you mean about being impatient, I have been exactly the same (have been driving DH Mad I think!) but the time does go by quicker than you expect.

Our GP was really good when he broke the news of the first SA - told us not to give up hope - he told us there was a chance they could retrieve sperm surgically through SSR and also mentioned using donor sperm. From the very beginning we both said that we would use a donor if we needed to and I think the way the GP introduced us to the idea really helped with that. Overall DH has been OK about using a donor as he really wants a baby - but he still has the occasional day when he gets upset about it all. I think it takes a while to get used to the idea and it is such a shock when you first get the results.

For me all of my results have been absolutely fine I have had bloods taken and an internal scan which was all OK and AF is fairly regular so no problems there either.

Funding wise - just after the GP referred us to the fertility clinic, they sent us a questionnaire to fill in and also some info which included the NHS funding eligibility criteria for our area. When we had our first appointment at the clinic, the nurse we saw went through it all with us and confirmed we were eligible We do only get funding for one go though so will have to pay for anything after that. Your BMI is not far off 30 anyway so it wont take long. To be honest even though mine is OK I have joined the gym and do exercise classes twice a week anyway as I want to be as healthy as possible for the treatment. I've also found it helps relieve some stress as well and makes the weeks go by quicker when busy!

I have put together a timeline below for you to see as a guide what has happened so far for us and when - hope this helps you. As you will see our GP referred us to the Fertility Clinic pretty early on which I think moved things along a bit but because there are lots of tests and appointments involved the time does go quickly -

5th October 2010 - First visit to GP as TTC for 15 months. GP ordered initial fertility blood tests for me and suggested SA for DH

20th October 2010 - Initial Fertility Blood Tests for me - Results 25th October were all normal. GP suggests Day 21 Blood Test (Progesterone) to check ovulation. GP made referral to Fertility Clinic.

5th November 2010 - Initial Questionnaire and Funding Criteria received from the Fertility Clinic

16th November 2010 - First SA for DH

19th November 2010 - Results of SA showed Zero Sperm - devesated

1st December 2010 - Day 21 Blood Test for Progesterone confirms I am ovulating

21st December 2010 - Second SA

5th January 2011 - Results of Second SA confirmed Zero Sperm

20th January 2011 - First Consulation at Fertility Clinic.
Blood Tests for me -AMH (Ovarian Reserve), Rubella and Chlamydia Antibodies - All results OK. Internal Scan order for the middle of next cycle.

Blood Tests for DH - Hormones (Testosterone, FSH and LH), Micro Y Deletions Cystic Fibrosis Carrier and Karyotype. All Results Normal.

BMI checked and confirmation that we are eligible for funding for our first cycle IVF/ICSI.

8th February 2011 - Internal scan on Day 11. Everything looks OK but nurse feels it is a little early in the cycle so orders Day 21 bloods to check ovulation. Results confirmed ovulation.

8th March 2011 - Second Appointment at Fertility Clinic. FS goes through all results, quick examination of DH reveals that the right testicle is damaged (this one was undescended and corrected as a child). Left side is normal so FS hopes to retrieve sperm from this side. Put on the waiting list for IVF/ICSI with PESA (trial PESA beforehand to see if sperm is found).

Now waiting IVF consultation appointment

So that's our story so far!! I hope that helps and sorry it has turned into such an essay! When do you get your next lot of results? Have you had any tests done yourself yet?

Take care and keep in touch

You were very lucky that your GP referred u quick thats wat i want to happen for us... it has happened quicker than i suspected on ur side. Hopefully we are as quick. sounds like you got a good GP! We have 2 seperate GP's which is a pain because it's in 2 different areas and as my GP is closest i would love my DH to join mine but because he has had all different medical issues and his GP is used to that he doesn't want to change as he knows his situation best. but hey ho i guess that takes longer going between the 2 aswell. anyways..

Last time i went to my doctor he ordered all different blood tests he said hes testing for all hormones levels etc and the usual checks they do and they all came back fine just showing i had PCOS which i knew anyway. I don't know the exact test that was done though

As for DH SA 2nd results we have to phone up on wednesday but i might phone up tuesday to see if they are back yet and if not phone again on wednesday... so nervous to hear it all over again. DH thinks they have it mixed up i think he doesn't want to accept it which is why i'm nervous because he hasn't got as emotional as me the 1st time he says he want to see wat the next result is so if its the same he's going to be so devastated. He says he wants there to be even a few just so he knows he's producing them.

I'm glad for you it's just one of you and not the 2 as it would have taken longer even though it would be better if none of u's had problems but it could be worse i guess - which i think it will with us because i have PCOS and wats going on with DH.

I've been trying to go to gym 3 times a week from before our wedding and cutting down i don't have much of an appetite and wen i do its carbs which is a no no for PCOS. I have to train myself into eatting properly through the day cause i'm stuck in this if i'm not hungry i don't eat thing. BMI isn't far off but I've seemed to hit a brick wall i think i need to up my workout abit more i agree with u it is a good stress releaser! I've tried the classes once or twice and i'm always conked out on the floor not being able to move after I done a body combat class and DH and his bro decided to come ( the only 2 men there haha) was funny cause DH was wanted to stop for water and the instructor kept shouttin at him was a kodak moment after the 45 min class we went back into the gym for another 2 hours yeah never again that whole week i was like a woman at 70!!!

Thank u so much for taking the time to write everything down for me. I hope you aren't waiting too long on the waiting list and i'm hoping everything goes smoothly whenever the time comes which i'm sure it will. I'll let u know how goes on tuesday/wednesday xxx U do the same

Will definitely keep in touch - let us know how you get on on Tuesday and good luck for the results. BTW me and DH are also registered at two different GPs and it has been fine. My GP did the referral to the fertility clinic and after the initial bloods and SAs we hav dealt with the clinic direct so being registered at different GPs wasn't a problem at all so hopefully be the same for you. I thought about changing whenh we first got the results but there wasnt any need xx

 

[Dancergirl]

My DH and I always talk about how many people get pregnant for free while having pleasure. Yet, infertility making conceiving expensive, painful at times, and definitively not a sexually pleasurable thing to do.

 

[april4jdg]

we didn't get to do the d-iui.... Dr said everything looked good. Estrogen was at 1500 on CD13, but my endometrial lining was too thin... i am meeting with her today to get a new plan for this month... She said it happens with Clomid sometimes. I had to give myself an HCG shot, to make sure I would ovulate, so the follicles wouldn't turn into cysts next month... I am so bummed out... But today, I will feel better, because atleast we will have a new game plan...

 

[wifeyw]

we didn't get to do the d-iui.... Dr said everything looked good. Estrogen was at 1500 on CD13, but my endometrial lining was too thin... i am meeting with her today to get a new plan for this month... She said it happens with Clomid sometimes. I had to give myself an HCG shot, to make sure I would ovulate, so the follicles wouldn't turn into cysts next month... I am so bummed out... But today, I will feel better, because atleast we will have a new game plan...

Hey april, my sister has endrometriosis and PCOS and her lining was thin and she carried her first full term but there was abit of bleeding. don't know if thats good info but just thought i'd let u know! but GL with next months and hoping for a BFP soon for u xx

 

[wifeyw]

So i phoned up today about the results just to see if they are back and they are they won't say over the phone so we have an appointments for wednesday at 3:50 DH is so nervous I just want to get all questions together for when i'm there that i want to know and write them down so i don't forget. but i will keep posting letting everyone know xx how is everyone feelings?

 

[Pink Lolly]

My DH and I always talk about how many people get pregnant for free while having pleasure. Yet, infertility making conceiving expensive, painful at times, and definitively not a sexually pleasurable thing to do.

You are very right Dancer, me and my DH always say the same. It doesn't seem fair somehow. Hope you are doing ok xx

 

[Pink Lolly]

So i phoned up today about the results just to see if they are back and they are they won't say over the phone so we have an appointments for wednesday at 3:50 DH is so nervous I just want to get all questions together for when i'm there that i want to know and write them down so i don't forget. but i will keep posting letting everyone know xx how is everyone feelings?

Hi Wifey - good luck for DHs results and let us know how you get on. I remember when we got DHs second results, we were geared up for the results and had prepared ourselves which made it much easier than the first time. Hope you and your DH are OK - just remember you do have options. Thinking of you both xxx

 

[wifeyw]

So i phoned up today about the results just to see if they are back and they are they won't say over the phone so we have an appointments for wednesday at 3:50 DH is so nervous I just want to get all questions together for when i'm there that i want to know and write them down so i don't forget. but i will keep posting letting everyone know xx how is everyone feelings?

Hi Wifey - good luck for DHs results and let us know how you get on. I remember when we got DHs second results, we were geared up for the results and had prepared ourselves which made it much easier than the first time. Hope you and your DH are OK - just remember you do have options. Thinking of you both xxx

Aww thank u Pink Lolly, right now i am waiting on DH to come home from work to go find out DH was just on the phone saying he was anxious..its so nerve wrecking i know i'm going to have to be strong for him if they come back the same this time cause i've prepared myself be DH hasn't, i don't know how to feel at the moment. as soon as i get them i will let u know. couple hours to go. xxx

 

[wifeyw]

ok...um where to start so sorry if i go on alittle.. well...we went down for the results and got a junior doctor he told us that the tests results came back more or less the same as the last time that there wasn't any sperm wat so ever there.

So he started asking about DH kidney transplant etc and past DH has had 3 hernia operations when he was 13 or so so we asked if that would have any affect and the doctor replied with " i don't know" ( at this point i looked over to DH and i could see he was getting emotional about the whole thing and trying to take everything in i just wanted to give him a massive hug) he didn't seem to know alot about anything. I was the one questioning everything.. ( i bet i seemed like a real nasty pasty but i just want to get all the information and blanks filled in) I know the FS will answer alot of them for us... ( but me being me i want it all done yesterday)

On that note he said he would refer us to FS yay! which could take 14 weeks or more depending on the list... I feel so relieved in a way that things will finally get started... but in the mean time he's sending DH for ultra sound scan and blood ( which i had to ask him for and the DR didn't know which bloods he was going to find out and then send for DH) but i think it's a good thing that they are doing that before referred to FS we wont have to go through more waiting and it will mean we will feel like somethings getting done rather than a big gap of nothing and worrying more aswell as dragging it out more.

Question for everyone in same situation.. When referred to FS did u and ur partner have to say to the others GP about it? Did your GP's have to refer you's seperately?

So i'm still unsure weather to go to my GP and tell him everything and say to him about the referral as my GP was the one who asked me to get DH to do a SA. I asked DH's GP if i needed to go to mine and he looked puzzeled ( uh did i say something wrong?) he said well yeah u can if want i don't see why not so as soon as we got out i phoned my GP and there was a cancelation app for tomarrow at 4:40pm so i'm booked in and while i'm there i might ask for some weight loss tablets or something to get me down faster... does anyone know what they call the one that helps with weight loss for PCOS suffers?


Oh and my sister got her 1st scan today which my mum phoned me up to ask about how the GP went and i told her everything, and i asked about how my sisters scan went and she said that there's a fibroid ( which they thought it might been a twin that died) growing in with the baby and its bigger than the baby's head and they have to keep a close eye on everything and asked her to consider a planned C-section to deliver baby as going the natural way might harm it. and she might need a blood transfusion too. as much as i am really sad that shes PG and i'm not i don't wish any harm on any of them. I just sometimes think that my mum doesn't really truely understand what we are going through. she said tell DH that everything will be fine but she seemed more worried about what was going on with my sister than us.. i know that sounds so selfish but it was always the way. maybe i feel like this cause i was up worrying and never got any sleep.. i dunno. my heads a mess trying to stay strong for DH when we got home i tried to stay positive as DH is so down and he asked are u not upset or gutted, i said yeah course i am i know its hard to hear but i know we will get there in the end and at least this is the start of a long journey but we will get there and the baby will be so wanted and so loved which makes it even more special experience ( i was crumbling on the inside though i just wanted to be strong). i will keep everyone informed about tomarrow.


I'm sorry girlies that i've went on so long .. oh my i had'nt realised how much until i checked there now lol

Pink polly i'm just going to your journal to read wats been happening with u i hope everyones having a better day than us xxx