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Dealing with azoospermia?
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*lol* same here ... I kept thinking + hoping that the spotting was implantation bleeding *lol* ... and even though I know his diagnosis and know that there is no chance that we will get pregnant without ICSI - in the months where we have given my body a break after the fails / chemicals, I have still hoped against hope that AF won't turn up and that I am pregnant ...
Me too!!! Every month I would see spotting I would get excited; now I know that I'm just progesterone difficent! And hubby and I joke about how when we were in high school and I'd be "late" how I'd be scared shitless thinking I was pg... and now I'm BEGGING to be pregnant!!! Ah!!!!!!!! To be young and dumb and not an infertility-medical junkie again would be SOOOOOOOOOO nice!!!!
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Hi Ladies,
I have been following this thread for a while, and it's just so nice to know that I'm not the only one, but at the same time its terrible that its happening to anyone.
I just feel like I'm not coping with all this, and by the looks of it by reading all your posts, My Husband and I have a long road ahead.
In 2009 I had a laparoscopy as I have endometriosis. So when hubby and I started TTC shortly thereafter, and just nothing happened, we both, as well as my Gynae, assumed it was me. Eventually I convinced him to go have a sperm analysis in January 2014. SA came back with 0 count. Since then we have been for all the tests possible (except the genetics).
Results were that he has Non-Obstructive Azoospermia. His hormones are all fine except his FSH levels are 20, Our Urologist said that this indicates possible testicular failure and our next step is a biopsy, with the hopes that we find some sperm in there to freeze, and do IVF / ICSI.
I guess I'm just looking for success stories where they found viable sperm in a biopsy, when he had high FSH levels? My husband has made it clear that donor sperm is not an option AT ALL!!!
At this point, we have decided not to jump to the biopsy, he is taking Staminogro (which is a vitamin for men with low counts, not 0) for 3 months and will do another SA in May, if its still zero, we will do the biopsy. I think its very wishful thinking, but want to give it a chance?
I have been following this thread for a while, and it's just so nice to know that I'm not the only one, but at the same time its terrible that its happening to anyone.
I just feel like I'm not coping with all this, and by the looks of it by reading all your posts, My Husband and I have a long road ahead.
In 2009 I had a laparoscopy as I have endometriosis. So when hubby and I started TTC shortly thereafter, and just nothing happened, we both, as well as my Gynae, assumed it was me. Eventually I convinced him to go have a sperm analysis in January 2014. SA came back with 0 count. Since then we have been for all the tests possible (except the genetics).
Results were that he has Non-Obstructive Azoospermia. His hormones are all fine except his FSH levels are 20, Our Urologist said that this indicates possible testicular failure and our next step is a biopsy, with the hopes that we find some sperm in there to freeze, and do IVF / ICSI.
I guess I'm just looking for success stories where they found viable sperm in a biopsy, when he had high FSH levels? My husband has made it clear that donor sperm is not an option AT ALL!!!
At this point, we have decided not to jump to the biopsy, he is taking Staminogro (which is a vitamin for men with low counts, not 0) for 3 months and will do another SA in May, if its still zero, we will do the biopsy. I think its very wishful thinking, but want to give it a chance?
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Hi Baba,
I am so sorry that you have been hit by the Azoo train too
Perhaps I will be able to tell you more after Monday (my DH has non-obstructive Azoo too ... but his FSH results are incredibly low - in fact the urologist was amazed that he had such normal results in every way, genetics, hormones etc and is still not showing any or many sperm in his SA - so not sure if our results will help, but I will definitely let you know).
I think for any of us on this journey, hope and wishful thinking are a big part of it - but until you know for sure, I wouldn't give up
I am so sorry that you have been hit by the Azoo train too
Perhaps I will be able to tell you more after Monday (my DH has non-obstructive Azoo too ... but his FSH results are incredibly low - in fact the urologist was amazed that he had such normal results in every way, genetics, hormones etc and is still not showing any or many sperm in his SA - so not sure if our results will help, but I will definitely let you know).
I think for any of us on this journey, hope and wishful thinking are a big part of it - but until you know for sure, I wouldn't give up
So AF showed in full force yesterday. Didnt even make it to my beta. Hubby still wants me to go, but I really dont see the point. This IVF is another :BFN: with no frosties. I cant believe we are back at square one...again. I am devastated. Now what?
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Oh Gem, I am so sorry!
Do you have some
frozen from the TESE?
I really feel you, I do! Thing is - even with IVF, there are no guarantees and (based on my experience) you have to be lucky for it to be the jackpot first time around
There are some that win right away and some who have to try a few times to get there...
Give yourself time to grieve, let yourself feel the sorrow - it is painful, it is taxing...
If you have some swimmers from the TESE, then at least DH won't have to go through the surgery again if and when you have another go. Give your body a couple of months to recover ... and try again
Do you have some
frozen from the TESE?I really feel you, I do! Thing is - even with IVF, there are no guarantees and (based on my experience) you have to be lucky for it to be the jackpot first time around
There are some that win right away and some who have to try a few times to get there...Give yourself time to grieve, let yourself feel the sorrow - it is painful, it is taxing...
If you have some swimmers from the TESE, then at least DH won't have to go through the surgery again if and when you have another go. Give your body a couple of months to recover ... and try again
No, we have nothing frozen. They barely found enough for all of my eggs this time. After doing this surgery twice, I just cant see DH doing it again. He has been in so much pain. I just really thought this one would stick. Not sure what to do for IVF three, this just sucks.
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Hey ladies! I have a lot to catch up on here as somehow I unsubscribed from this thread.....
I just want to wish everyone dealing with Azo good luck and tell everyone that miracles do happen! Keep the hope and don't give up!! Me and DH were ready to throw in the towel and move on and did our last FET with little hope after 5 previous cycles and 2 mcs thinking it would be a failure....We even decided to switch REs and move to a different game plan. And here we are today! I am delivering in just 40 days viaa c-section!! We really can't believe all of this as it is a dream come true. A true miracle. We probably won't ever have the chance to do all this again. We feel so fortunate even though we went through some crazy trials over 2 years. I am wishing everyone luck and positive sticky vibes!!
I just want to wish everyone dealing with Azo good luck and tell everyone that miracles do happen! Keep the hope and don't give up!! Me and DH were ready to throw in the towel and move on and did our last FET with little hope after 5 previous cycles and 2 mcs thinking it would be a failure....We even decided to switch REs and move to a different game plan. And here we are today! I am delivering in just 40 days viaa c-section!! We really can't believe all of this as it is a dream come true. A true miracle. We probably won't ever have the chance to do all this again. We feel so fortunate even though we went through some crazy trials over 2 years. I am wishing everyone luck and positive sticky vibes!!
Gem - sorry it didn't happen this time around. I just hate that we have to go through so much pain.
Baba - We were not on board in the beginning with using DS, but after several months of grieving, we couldn't take it anymore. We decided to try 3 times, and if it didn't work then we could move on. We needed to at least say we tried. I don't know what will happen if it doesn't work for, but we will decide when the time comes. It is a very difficult journey and ofcourse making the decision is only the beginning of the challenges we will have conceiving a donor baby.
Baba - We were not on board in the beginning with using DS, but after several months of grieving, we couldn't take it anymore. We decided to try 3 times, and if it didn't work then we could move on. We needed to at least say we tried. I don't know what will happen if it doesn't work for, but we will decide when the time comes. It is a very difficult journey and ofcourse making the decision is only the beginning of the challenges we will have conceiving a donor baby.
Hey,
I found your post interesting as I feel like we have similar stories. My husband had a zero count on the initial SA's, but then they centrifuged his sample and found 5 sperm total (3 twitching, non-progressive, and 2 non-motile). All hormones normal except FSH is slightly high (although not THAT high). He has one undescended testicle (which is why i think his FSH levels are a bit high as this testicle is in his abdomen and dead). He also has a scortal hernia above his good testicle but the doc said this wouldn't affect his good testicle in anyway). Doc doesn't really recommend a biopsy because he thinks it's unexplained non-obstructive azoospermia. The fact he has some sperm in his semen and high FSH indicated non-obstructive, but he said he couldn't know 100% unless we did the biopsy. What is this vitamin that your DH is on? Something prescribed? My DH is taking Wellman's Conception. He's been taking it for about 2 months and cut out alcohol. It takes 3 months for the body to recognize the changes, so I think we're going to do one more SA in the next month or so. I'm still debating the biopsy. They've basically told us IVF with ICSI and surgical sperm extraction is our only hope, but if it were obstructive azoospermia we'd have way more options. I'd love to hear more details on your story!
No, we have nothing frozen. They barely found enough for all of my eggs this time. After doing this surgery twice, I just cant see DH doing it again. He has been in so much pain. I just really thought this one would stick. Not sure what to do for IVF three, this just sucks.
Hi Gem,
I'm so sorry
It really is such a gamble...some of us get lucky, and some of us don't. Just try to remind yourself everything happens for a reason. If you have the resources and patience to try again, I would. I wouldn't give up. Wishing you the best of luck in whatever you decide.
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