Dealing with azoospermia?

Hopeful Cat, and Gem hope you both are managing ok.

Mbaby, Good luck

Rainbow: any update on your dates?

Some update from me , we move on to the next phase in our journey, the mTese is scheduled for mid March (in 2 weeks time), based on how I respond to medicines. We have seen the FS and also the urologist and we are all set and but extremely nervous.

I have read in many of your posts and seen from your signatures that many of you here have had multiple mTese. This gave me the hope that if things dont work out for us now, then we can try another time. I asked Mr Ramsey how long before we try again , in case we dont find any sperm and his response was that there was no second attempt and this was it. He said we were already pushing things too much. My heart sank when I heard this, I asked him why he would suggest this route over others who go on and have multiple mTese. His response was that , he has previously gone for more than one mTese for some of his patients but those were cases when he first operated on them and then asked them to take medicines and then tried another time. But over the years, he has changed his protocol and he does only one procedure after his patients have taken 3 months of tamoxifen.

He gave us the chances of success as 1 in 5 , 80 pct chance that my eggs would end up being wasted / frozen and said he wished us luck and that we were being brave by choosing to go ahead knowing well how low the chances of success are. After this meeting I became numb and felt like being pushed into another deep dark hole from which I just dint know how to climb out. To add to this, mom called to say , that another cousin was pregnant, I feel very jealous of all these people who can have pleasurable sex and at the end have a baby after few months of trying. We sat down last night to fill the consent forms and it was very painful, not the questions as such but the fact that we are not a normal couple and were about to have just one single attempt at trying to have what we want most in our lives . DH described the next 2 weeks as though it was a trial at the end of which we would know the verdict.
 
Oh Arzoo, how heartbreaking for the doctor to put it like that :(
But I think, we just have to believe ... and I really hug you for going for it. One of my philosophies in life is : if you don't ask / try - it won't happen... the worst that can happen if you do, is that you fail - and the best, that you succeed.

I will keep my fingers and toes tightly crossed for you Sweetie, that your respond well to the meds and that the mTESE in March brings you lots and lots and lots of :spermy: that can also be frozen for future use!!! :hugs:
 
MBaby - I'm sorry it didn't work out this time.

I have been feeling really down and defeated. I just don't know if I have it in me to keep trying and feel this pain every time. Financially is a strain to not put a limit to our attempts and I just don't know what to do. We are trying to take a break and focus on our relationship that has suffered through all of this. I have become a totally different person. I'm sad all the time and at the verge of crying. I see a baby and feel a pain that I can't believe people have to go through it.
 
mbaby I m so sorry to hear that. warm warm hugs to u.
A couple weeks ago I stopped researching and reading about mTESE. It makes me nervous and impatient. I focus on all the positive things in my life. But today I came to see ur result. I m so sorry that it didnt work out. Hopefully next time u ll get a big fat positive!!! baby dust to all of u!!!
 
Update from me:

DH has his 3 month SA this Friday, March 7 to see if his injections have helped his azoo. BUT we couldn't get an appointment with the doctor for the results until March 25. They are trying to get us in sooner, at least for the results, but they don't think he will be available. ARGH! :dohh:

How are my beautiful azoo ladies doing?
 
Oooooh Miki, fingers tightly crossed for you both Sweetie! I find that really bad, that they want to make you wait so long for the results. Ridiculous! I hope they can get you in earlier! xxxx
 
That is crazy to wait that long!! Maybe you can call into the nurse and get prelim results?
 
MBaby, I have been thinking of you. Give yourself time to get through this. Its ok to cry or get mad. This whole situation that we are all in just sucks!! I found on average it took me three to four weeks before I snapped out of my "funk". On the bright side you have oome frosties waiting for you!

Mik, that is ridiculous. I dont see why they cant just call with the results! I swerr these people have no idea what it feels like to be in our shoes.

Sharon and Bub, how are you two feeling?
 
Mobaby I plan to call the imaging center and see if they will release the results to us so that we don't have to wait. I sure hope they will. The results should be ready the same day but my doctor wasn't even able to get it until the next Tuesday so maybe the Wednesday after I will call. :winkwink:

Gem I don't think they understand. Most hospital employees with the exception of some who have been "infertile" think that we are just impatient and can't wait for the doc to call. Um, hello....this stuff is pretty important.

Thanks for all the words of encouragement. :hugs:
 
Mbaby, I am so sorry. And Olive and Deafgal, I'm sorry that you're both going through such a hard time. It sucks and it is not fair. I hope you're able to vent and cry as much as you need to, and can find your way back to a healthy place. It's so much to endure.
 
Gem, I'm feeling "good" (as in, not good, so good :) )- thanks! My first appointment's in 2 weeks. It seems like a long time to wait, but after everything being so medical & science-y for so long, I was ready to feel "normal" and natural for a little bit.

How are YOU feeling?
 
As you all have said, its so unfair, why cant things turn out positive for us.

Mbaby, wish you success with the rest of your frosties.

Sharon glad to know you are in a better place. Good luck with your appointment

Mikihob, it is very frustrating that nurses and medics can be so insensitive to our anxiety.

Yesterday, a friend of mine, who is going through fertility struggles of her own was admitted in the hospital due to hyper stimm. After hearing what she had been through and the dangers she was exposed to, I am very nervous about my case. The doctor had given me all the prescription and put me on a 21 day long protocol but something made DH uncomfortable so we went back to see the doctor again, he reviewed my file and said I was someone who had a high risk of hyper stimm and changed my protocol to the antagonist one. How could he miss all this in our first visit, what if we had not gone back to him again. I went for my first scan and the nurse instructed me to take 150 mg of medicine, I remember seeing it as 125, I asked her to check again and then she realised it should have been 125 ! I feel so nervous and scared at this negligence, specially after being warned that it is our only one change. Doctors who see so many patients going through similar condition as us, may not appreciate the fact that it is just our one chance. I know there is no point in getting anxious about things, all I can do is , trust and hope things will be ok for us.

I am trying to put on a brave face because I am see DH is very nervous and does not have hope of a positive outcome. Every time I think that we may not find any sperms I just want to start crying.
 
Gem, I'm doing OK thanks!
Still not believing that it is happening ... we had our scan on Monday to make sure that the amniotic cavity is there ... and there it was, a perfect little dot - with the beginnings of the yolk sac inside.
Next week Wednesday, is the next u/s to make sure that we see the heartbeat... Once I see that, I might allow myself to start feeling some excitement.

Other than that - feeling tired - don't get through the day without a nap or two. And waking up at unearthly hours of the morning every morning like clockwork (mainly to go to the loo *lol*).

Arzoo - I do find that a bit disconcerting, that they are missing so much! OHSS can be very dangerous, yes. I have had mild OHSS this time around - post ER, then it did calm down by transfer and then two days after transfer, flared up again. By my betas, my ovaries were very sore and I was extremely swollen ... it has calmed down - but at the ultrasound on Monday, the doctor could see that my ovaries are still big and that there is fluid there. (And I have been on the antagonist protocol each time).
If you do not feel comfortable and well-looked after at that clinic, I am not sure I would *just go ahead with it*. Make sure that they know your concerns. Make sure that they acknowledge that this is your one shot at it and that they need to take this seriously - and if you still feel uncomfortable, then make sure you end up with someone you do feel comfortable with! At the clinic I am at, the first two ICSIs and 5 transfers we did with one doctor ... and I found I just wasn't happy with him. We switched to our current doctor after that and we are very happy with him. It is so important, that you do feel confident that you are getting the best advice and the best treatment!

I will keep my fingers crossed for you Sweetie! xxx
 
Gee that is dangerous when the dr has all that info and still neglect to notice small details like that of high risks!!!
 

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