Dealing with azoospermia?

[MissAma]

Deb they almost always lose the bigger one. With that in mind.... it does sound uncoordinated, have they answered? But good crop girl!

Sar - cautiously very happy for you!

Snd80 - you two sound exactly like we sounded after we got diagnosed and told to adopt, the exact same conversation and I even posted on a forum saying I had months to consider this, donor it is but for me that would have been a monstrous mistake as I really wasn't ready to give up the fight for a baby of our own and after a bunch more soul searching we embarked on the TESE route. I'm not saying the same will happen to you or that I made the wiser choice -our credit score sure doesn't think so!- but I am just saying you sound like I was, still emotional and confused and if that is the case then you should take more time to think it through?

 

[snd80]

Some good news for me, I gotta call from my dr. this morning giving me the green light to go forward. Said my bloods from July looked great and as far as he could tell I was good to go and that my weight shouldn't be an issue b/c my cycles are regular and I do ov. He asked who I was talking to in Jackson and told me I made a great choice and keep him updated, to which I told him hopefully I would be seeing him again soon. But....

Hubby finally admitted this morning he is having a hard time w/ everything, as I knew and can understand, so I told him we would wait until he was ready for sure. I told him we could go the IVF route instead, but as he pointed out with his dialysis schedual, it would be hard for him to be there for everything that needs to be done. So until he is ready for whatever we shall stay in limbo. Which is fine with me cause that gives me even more time to lose more weight. He said he has the middle names picked out, that if it couldn't be "his", he at least wanted it to have a piece of him with his middle name; Allen for a boy or Alaina for a girl. IDK how I'm buying the girls name as I have had names picked out for the past 10 years, and not sure I am ready to surrender my girls name yet! LOL! I'll have to think on that one...

Hope everyone is well this morning! =)

 

[Deb111]

Deb they almost always lose the bigger one. With that in mind.... it does sound uncoordinated, have they answered? But good crop girl!

Still heard nothing from the Lister. My consultant's automated email reply said he'd reply within 2 days. Decided it might be a good idea to try to arrange a phone consultation with him (or even another consultant) tomorrow, after I've had my next scan. It might cost us, but for the sake of a few quid; I'd rather not risk the cycle.

So I phoned his secretary - 5 times - no answer, no option to leave message

Phoned the appts line - several times - no answer

Not a happy bunny! Hopefully I will get some answers from them tomorrow and will also ask at MFS - maybe they can at least give me some reassurance about delaying a long protocol by a day or 2

 

[MissAma]

Snd - good stuff, glad to hear you guys are taking it slow. For the record, it is only ONCE in the entire ICSI process when they are needed there, when they -pardon my French- cut their neder regions all the other times -2-3 scans, an initial meeting, Egg Retrival and Embryo Transfer- it is only you they need. Would it be nice if he were there? Sure but I know many women who went alone to all appointments for various reasons or with a friend or family member and they were ok. Just sayin'

Deb - this is ridiculous! Nothing I hate more than medical professionals not keeping their word when they know everything is nerve wrecking to us at these stages! WTF! If I were you I would probably express very clearly how disappointed I am so that you scare them into action, at the end of the day you are a paying customer not only a patient! Hope they answer very soon. Meanwhile please try and calm down, while I don't think PMA makes a lick of a difference, stress does and while you can't eliminate it all trying hard to stay calm may help? I'd be boiling if I were in your shoes, I am not as level headed as you are!

Sar - hope you have great news for us.

 

[Deb111]

Deb - this is ridiculous! Nothing I hate more than medical professionals not keeping their word when they know everything is nerve wrecking to us at these stages! WTF! If I were you I would probably express very clearly how disappointed I am so that you scare them into action, at the end of the day you are a paying customer not only a patient! Hope they answer very soon. Meanwhile please try and calm down, while I don't think PMA makes a lick of a difference, stress does and while you can't eliminate it all trying hard to stay calm may help? I'd be boiling if I were in your shoes, I am not as level headed as you are!

Thanks MissAma - I'm ok - I guess it helps knowing I can talk to the other clinic about it when I go for my scan tomorrow. I'm not impressed! and I'm not stressed, just worried. I will be pointing out that I'm not happy about the incorrect advice I was given about increasing my meds when we are paying £11K for this 'synchronous cycle' - I will make sure I stay calm though

 

[silverbell]

That's fab, snd, that you've both come to an agreement. A bit of time to digest and think about things is a great idea.

Deb I am livid for you! I hope you get some answers soon.

 

[Sar187]

SND-Glad you got some good news and also that you and your dh have come to an agreement about proceeding. I think its good that you take some time to come to terms with everything.

Deb-Hoping you get some answers soon.

AFM-yesterday's test was actually lighter than the 2 I took on Wednesday, to the point where I wasn't sure If I was seeing a line or it was my imagination. Today's test was a definite BFN. Hoping that Wednesday was still trigger and I missed a line on tuesday's test. I'm not giving up hope until my beta results on monday!

 

[snd80]

Any news Sar?

 

[steffa]

Hi to all of you. 2 days ago we got the SA results that we were not expecting...azoospermia (1 immobile sperm found). I am 33 and my DH is 37 and we have been ttc since February. I always thought it was me and my short-ish luteal phase and had just bought pre-seed. But as it turns out...
So it was a big shock and we slowly walked home from docs office in silence, not knowing what to think. I should explain that we live in Spain (DH is Spanish) and most things are done thru specialists. So we got the results from urologist. He didnt really explain anything, took a look at testicles and said they seem fine and this week blood testing will be done and probably the ultrasound aswell although he didnt think that would give us any news.
We are calm. On Friday night (before googling anything!) we talked about adoption (we had actually discussed this before any of this happened) and my DH surprised me by saying he wanted me to have a baby even if it wasnt him. So I guess our options are quite varied. After reading thru a lot of this thread I see that we need to be very patient and for the moment...we really don't have any idea whats going on and th road will be a long one.
For the moment we are not telling anyone, I will tell my sister as they have the same problem but have not done anything about it. As donor sperm is an option for us we have decided never to tell anyone (except by sister) about the azoospermia.
Sorry my intro is sooooo long, but there is so much to say!!

 

[Deb111]

Hi Steffa

Welcome - you will find loads of support here.

Wishing you every luck with your journey xx

 

[wibble wobble]

Hi Steffa welcome to thread. You've found a nice bunch of ladies full of loads of information and more importantly they are the most supportive bunch I know x

 

[Deb111]

So as of Friday's scan - Follicles are 18, 14, 12 on one side and 14, 10 and 1 less tha 10 on the other side ... yes! I now have 6 follicles and the lead one doesn't seem to have grown too quickly either.

Lining is 9.4mm

Next scan tomorrow and EC aimed for Thursday

 

[steffa]

Thanks a lot girls, to be honest I have so much to learn and we have a long journey ahead of us as you all know. We had a nice weekend, we are feeling a strange sense of calm...I am especially compared to the previous months of mad TTC and charts and CM and whatnot!!I´m going to enjoy this newfound calm while it lasts.
We have a good friend who is an acupuncturist and a chinese medicine consultant. Have any of you any experience with this?

 

[KB38]

Thanks a lot girls, to be honest I have so much to learn and we have a long journey ahead of us as you all know. We had a nice weekend, we are feeling a strange sense of calm...I am especially compared to the previous months of mad TTC and charts and CM and whatnot!!I´m going to enjoy this newfound calm while it lasts.
We have a good friend who is an acupuncturist and a chinese medicine consultant. Have any of you any experience with this?

Hi Steffa, my DH was diagnosed with azoospermia in May of this year. He had a TESA procedure in July and we were told he has sertoli cell syndrome. We have since explored every option other to no avail so we are trying acupuncture and chinese herbs. We aren't really expecting a result but it has given us something to do until we can retest DH in 6 months (his request not a medical opinion).

I've read a lot about the benefits of acupuncture with IVF. So....every Thursday we both go to see our therapist. It is quite expensive for the herbs for DH but its really nice to both leave work on time and the accupuncture is soooo relaxing. We've been making it a bit of a 'date night' so we go out for dinner afterwards. As to whether it works, I have PCOS and always had a slightly short luteal phase. After almost 4 months of acupuncture my lp has consistently been 14 days which is picture perfect. It is also supposed to improve egg quality and quantity. We aren't testing DH until the 6 month mark because like I said, we aren't really expecting a result but we're using the time to get used to the idea of donor sperm too.

Like you, we haven't told anyone either. It was important to DH not to tell people until after we've had the second testing done but I have to say I'd recommend just being open. It's really hard keeping "a secret" and sometimes I'd really like a shoulder to cry on. I feel bad when DH seems to be doing ok and I'm having a "totally devastated moment"

 

[REllen]

Hi

My husband had azoospermia and he too ayurveda medical treatment and has sperms now. we need to do a ICSI now.

Please read my blog Azoospermia Cure to share my experience.

blog name : azoospermia-cure

it is a google blog. i cannot enter the web address now. hope you guys will find it.

 

[Pamplemousse]

Hi Ladies,

I have manged to peep a little at people's progress over the weekend but have not wanted to write and run... so here goes:

Steffa: Welcome to a group that no one wants to be part of, but rest assured you will get so much support here. DH was diagnosed 5 weeks ago, we await blood results any time now to ascertain what is causing this issue. I completely understand what you mean about the calm. I have felt realtively calm about the whole but then at times it hits me like a bolt and I am heartbroken. Take your emotions as they come and be easy on yourself! When in doubt get on this forum, we are all here for each other!

Sar: I hope things are looking good everything croseed for you!

Deb111: It seems like it is going well for you too. I really admire the way you deal with this. Good for you for not sitting back and taking the rubbish that comes with the specialists. I think you give us all the courage to keep fighting for our hopes!!

Snd80: How are you feeling about it all? It seems you are more hopeful than last week. Sending you hugs!

As for me, waiting for the blood test results, I feel ok about getting them, but who knows once we have them. I am kind of glad that the end of the year is approaching, it seems next year (hopefully) one way or another will have my child, or at least well on the way to having one!

Be sure when we get the blood results I will be pestering you all for info, talking of which does anyone have any tips on questions to ask when we get our results? When we were diagnosed I really thought we would have to be dealing with low sperm count. I took my note book to write down results, but once we were told there were none I dazed out a bit. Can anyone suggest which results I should try and get, any breakdowns etc??


Hugs to every one else!

 

[snd80]

Welcome Steffa! Sorry to see you here, but we have all been where you are right now and all have open "ears" to listen to anytime! Deb is such an awesome lady to have started this thread for us and is very knowlegable, and might I add, an expert when it comes to this! And we can't thank her enough!

AFM- I am in limbo land right now... hubby finally looked over potential donor profiles I printed out over the weekend and made a "maybe" pile to look into. Now we have to officially sign up and pay the $165 fee to look at pictures to match one as closely as we can to him. I am going to try to make my initial appt for Jackson the week of Thanksgiving while my aunt will be in town so she can go with me. And hopefully Jackson can make some arrangements to work w/ my local gyno to do all the monitoring for them so I won't have to be traveling back and forth so much. (FINGERS CROSSED for that one!!!) Really hoping to have my first IUI in Dec! Or maybe I am just daydreaming.... IDK! But a Christmas BFP would be A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!!!

Hope everyone else is doing well too! =)

 

[MoBaby]

Deb: SOOO EXCITING!!! Steffa: Welcome to the thread Its really helpful!

UPDATE: DH genetic testing normal... urologists gave us the green light to contiue! I start stim cycle on 10/27!!! egg collection scheduled for around nov 7th

snd: thats exciting you are looking at profiles!! cant wait for your update.

 

[Pamplemousse]

Deb: SOOO EXCITING!!! Steffa: Welcome to the thread Its really helpful!

UPDATE: DH genetic testing normal... urologists gave us the green light to contiue! I start stim cycle on 10/27!!! egg collection scheduled for around nov 7th

snd: thats exciting you are looking at profiles!! cant wait for your update.

Great news MoBaby!!!!

 

[steffa]

HI all, hubby went for bloods test today and on Friday he is having ultrasound. So I guess we will visit urologist next week. Meanwhile this weekend I will be ovulating, seems like maybe clutching at straws but for the moment we´re gonna keep trying, you never know, well at least at the moment we don't know!