Dealing with azoospermia?

[Pamplemousse]

Deb111: Great news!!! Really hopeful for you. Exciting times ahead!

Corsita: I understand that the blood tests are taken in order to determine whether the azoospermia is caused by an obstructive or a non-obstructive factor. So, whether lack of sperm is due to something blocking the sperm coming through in a physical way, or whether there is genetic issue which mean less or no sperm is produced. Anyway, that is what we were told the blood test was for. But I am no expert!!! My understanding maybe incorrect, I am new to all this and learning the ropes!

The main thing to remember is that anything is possible, yes, a longer process than you probably imagined, but not impossible!


AFM: Feel lots better today, having a day out with my mum, looking forward to that!

 

[Deb111]

Hi girls - will try to catch up with all your news later.

As for us - both slept well and still no pain for either of us - in fact hubby has slept on his stomach most of the night! Amazing when you think what he's had done!

Cosita - Pamplemousse has pretty much covered it with the bloods. If they are normal - especially the FSH and LH - it suggests there is a blockage, but internally, everything is running normally. If the FSH is raised, it suggests that there is 'some' testicular failure and that body is raising it's FSH to deal with it and try to produce more (they are unable to tell exactly how much of the testicle is failing until doing SSR etc)

So less than 3 hours to go til fertility report

 

[snd80]

Yay Deb! Those eggies and "boys" sound like some good news a brewing!!! Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AFM-I made my initial appt. for Jackson Nov 21st.! My aunt/2nd mother is going with me, cause of course, she is funding this for us! I am SOOO excited!!! Still gotta make the final decision of which donor we are going to pick before then, but as hubby and I were talking about it the other night, he had a panic attack and we stopped the discussion for the time being. I guess it was info overload for all in one night... but even if we don't do the first cycle in Dec, that is ok w/ me. I'll live... I always do!

Hope everyone else is doing good!

 

[silverbell]

AFM, I'm finally starting to feel more normal again. I only went once, but the counselling helped sooo much. Thank you Silverbell. I owe you big time. DH is going through a bit of a hard time with everything - it seems like we're never on the one page at the one time but I've convinced him to go to the counsellor too so hopefully that helps. I've set a goal to lose 20kgs (sensibly) to get me to a healthy weight for IVF so I'm concentrating on that now. Day 4 and I haven't faltered once (except that I had an extra coffee today without even thinking about it - I'm trying to cut back to one a day. Oh well. It's a step in the right direction, I suppose

You're so welcome, KB, and I'm overjoyed that it helped you. I am so pleased

Hi Ladies,

Know it sounds a bit daft but does anybody else feel a bit down when they see all the Christmas stuff entering the shops? I went into John Lewis yesterday and saw xmas trees, stockings, loads of lovely festive bits and bobs. I love xmas, I really believe it is a time for children and the cute stuff has made me as broody as hell. I want to be hanging a stocking up for my children and I want to be making paperchains and gingerbread with them and my dream just seems like it is so out of reach.

I think waiting for blood test results is starting to get to me. Having a bit of a down day today.

It's happening to me a lot as this is the first Christmas knowing we're dealing with what we're dealing with. So it's tough seeing all the Christmassy stuff. Christmas is my most favourite time of the year and I get so excited, but I honestly thought I'd have a little one or be pregnant by now, so it's tough. You're not alone.

AFM-I made my initial appt. for Jackson Nov 21st.! My aunt/2nd mother is going with me, cause of course, she is funding this for us! I am SOOO excited!!! Still gotta make the final decision of which donor we are going to pick before then, but as hubby and I were talking about it the other night, he had a panic attack and we stopped the discussion for the time being. I guess it was info overload for all in one night... but even if we don't do the first cycle in Dec, that is ok w/ me. I'll live... I always do!

Hope everyone else is doing good!

Great news! I'm so pleased that things are moving forwards for you. Sorry about your husband's panic attack. It must be ever so difficult for the guys when talking about donor sperm I imagine. It's difficult to try and put ourselves in their shoes and imagine it.


Welcome, corsita

 

[Deb111]

So glad the counselling is helping KB - I think I would have gone mad without mine!

Pamplemousse - you're definitely not alone in finding christmas a difficult time

 

[Deb111]

Just realised I hadn't updated on this thread with my fertility report!

Well, we have 3 lovely fertilised eggs and are looking at a probable transfer on Sunday - although there's a possibility it might be Tuesday

 

[MissAma]

Sounds great Deb! Very pleased for you!

Corsita if it was you who asked about costs in Eugin l answered a few pages ago.

 

[cosita]

Thanks all, Miss Ama yes it was me and greatly appreciate your answer. Deb111 I have fingers crossed for you!Have a good weekend all x

 

[KB38]

Fingers crossed for you Deb111. Can't wait for the next installment!

 

[mumanddad]

Deb thats fantastic news x

 

[tigerlily1975]

That's wonderful, Deb! Good luck!!

C xx

 

[Sar187]

Thats great Deb! I am hoping they divide really well and you have 3 great quality embryos! How many are you transferring, If I remember correctly UK has more strict rules on this than the US does.

I will update later with my WTF appt results gotta run right now.

 

[Deb111]

All being well, they will put 2 back and hopefully freeze the other one. They would only put 3 back if I was over 40 xx

 

[Deb111]

So, we're not going to the clinic today ...

Clinic phoned - all 3 embies doing so well that they can't choose between them and want to take them to blastocycst and transfer Tuesday at 12pm

She said they are all Grade 1 (top notch) and are at the 8 cell stage (should be 5 - 8 cells by now)

 

[Pamplemousse]

Yay Deb! Those eggies and "boys" sound like some good news a brewing!!! Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AFM-I made my initial appt. for Jackson Nov 21st.! My aunt/2nd mother is going with me, cause of course, she is funding this for us! I am SOOO excited!!! Still gotta make the final decision of which donor we are going to pick before then, but as hubby and I were talking about it the other night, he had a panic attack and we stopped the discussion for the time being. I guess it was info overload for all in one night... but even if we don't do the first cycle in Dec, that is ok w/ me. I'll live... I always do!

Hope everyone else is doing good!

Good for you. Looking forward is the name of the game!! Roll on 21st November

 

[Pamplemousse]

Deb111: Fantastic news for you. I am smiling away as I type!! This really is an exciting time for you, all fingers and toes crossed.

AFM: We received an e-mail from the hospital to say that our blood test results are in. No clues as to what the results maybe, just waiting for an appointment date now so I guess we are one step forward on the long path!!!

I am trying to think of qusetions to ask at the next appointment, other than establishing the cause of evil azoo (my new name for it!!). So, I think I need to ask whether the FS detected any sperm at all from DH samples. He said none, but he may not have mentioned any dead ones, so I want to clarify that. Also, I want to know what DH's hormone levels are, and if we can do anything to improve them if there is a problem.

Ooh, also, has anyone else got their DH on wellman vitamins? Dh has agreed to start taking them, and I would like a good three month of vitamins in him prior to an SSR (if we can have one) in order to ensure anything found is as tip top as can be. Anyone got any postive news with wellman?

As you can probably tell I am at present fully motivated to deal with this evil azoo. It will rue the day it thought to cross me and my DH!!!!

 

[wibble wobble]

Hi all

Pamplemouse hope you get your appointment through soon to discuss results

Deb yay for going to blast I'll have my fingers crossed that all 3 continue to grow well over the next couple of days

SND 21st of november isn't too long away hope the time flies by really for you and that you get to speak to hubby more about the donor. In the uk they only give very basic information about donors height,weight,blood group,hair colour etc. I browsed a U.S sperm bank website and you get information about all kinds and a picture too (not sure if personally I'd want to see what my future childs father looks like,think I'd spend to long thinking about it)

afm I've been a victim of a clerical f*** up at the hospital, they invited me to a patient information evening (next thurs) When I spoke to others who had been to one at LWH they said it was all about IVF/ICSI so I rang up fri to ask and turns out the nurses had read my notes wrong and thought I was going straight to IVF when I'm not. So now I'm back in limbo land waiting for an appointment to see the consultant again. I'm a little disappointed as it'll most likely be mid november now before we get in to see him,when it could have been next week that we started the ball rolling with counselling and donor matching... life goes on though I'm sure work will keep me busy enough to keep my mind off it

 

[Deb111]

I am trying to think of qusetions to ask at the next appointment, other than establishing the cause of evil azoo (my new name for it!!). So, I think I need to ask whether the FS detected any sperm at all from DH samples. He said none, but he may not have mentioned any dead ones, so I want to clarify that. Also, I want to know what DH's hormone levels are, and if we can do anything to improve them if there is a problem.

Ooh, also, has anyone else got their DH on wellman vitamins? Dh has agreed to start taking them, and I would like a good three month of vitamins in him prior to an SSR (if we can have one) in order to ensure anything found is as tip top as can be. Anyone got any postive news with wellman?

As you can probably tell I am at present fully motivated to deal with this evil azoo. It will rue the day it thought to cross me and my DH!!!!

Hubby has been on wellman for fertility, plus omega 3 capsules https://male-health.org/low-levels-of-omega-3-dha-linked-to-male-infertility/ The NHS said it was pointless! But Mr Ramsay said that it obviously wont make him create them if he's not, but will make sure there is the best possible environment for any that are being made.

I've also read that pomegranate juice not from concentrate can help https://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Pomegranate-juice-boosts-sperm-quality-study

As to whether or not they helped, who knows we still only found minute numbers!! I mean 35 ish in one testicle when most men produce 1000 per heartbeat just seems crazy - in fact it is a miracle that an NHS random biopsy managed to find 3 - I guess that's one thing we have to thank the NHS for because if they'd found none, I doubt we would have pursued things

As for questions to ask
- ask if they centrifuged the sperm sample - minute numbers that wouldn't show up normally can show up if they centrifuge it
- get them to do a prolactin blood test - high levels can cause azoospermia and can be treated (the details escape me now - it's been a long time sonce we were looing into that, but definitely worth getting it checked)
- definitely make sure you get a note of his testosterone and FSH levels

Can't think of any more right now

You go kick this azoospermia's butt hun!!

 

[Deb111]

So sorry about the mess up Wibble - it is so frustrating that we have to keep on at them and make sure things are done right, but I've sometimes wondered if it's our saving grace that it gives us something to throw ourselves into xx

 

[cosita]

Good luck Deb!!!Things are looking good!