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Aww... Big hugs to Sam! I wish I could help, but I'm in no position.

Back from docs! I'm re-posting from my journal so you don't have to track down what happened. Putting it behind the spoiler because its SO long!
Okay... I got there at 10:25am. There were 2 guys and one woman with 2 children who she didn't seem to need to have any control over waiting already. I really thought I'd never get to see her, as I figured I'd already be in prison for slaying the stupid woman and her obnoxious kids. They were jumping on the chairs, running around, trying to climb the wall while holding on to the receptionist's ledge, panting like dogs, flipping over chairs, playing some "game" where they would hold their hands up to their eyes like binoculars and ask each other "Are you in 1 piece or 2 pieces?" and whatever the other one said was always the wrong answer... This game is very loud, and it went on forever. One of them proceeded to go to the parking lot alone (at maybe 7?) and came back in spilling an entire McDonald's breakfast platter on the floor... pancakes, hashbrown, eggs, etc. Some poor girl came in right after me who had a 10:30am appointment and sat through all of this too. The 2 guys got called in, but I got called in before the woman with the kids or the girl with an appointment... odd, but okay. It was 11:30am I think? So, not ages, but felt like ages.

Anyway, the nurse comes in to do blood pressure and temp and says to me "Do you not have a gynecologist set up yet?" I told her that I didn't have one I liked at the moment. Keep in mind, my paperwork stated my reason for the visit was "discuss lab results" because that was part of it. Anyway, she then says, "Well, you need to get that done, because she can't keep doing this. It isn't her job." She's referring to my doctor, in case you wondered. Odd... Its not my doctor's job to discuss my test results with me? Because, I think it might be!

Well, my blood pressure was 149/84. I wonder why! I was annoyed with the kids, fuming about what the nurse said... OF COURSE IT WAS HIGH!

My doctor comes in and is perfectly nice. I keep my thoughts about the nurse to myself, because I didn't want to taint the appointment with that at the very beginning. First, I explain that I've been eating better and trying to be more active to no avail (my 10lb loss seems to fluctuate on the day... some days its 10lbs, some days its 1lb... I think my scale sucks). Anyway, we talked about that for a bit. She said that she thinks I might be gaining some muscle mass, which I doubt... but it was nice to hear. Then, she said that she also thought I might be retaining some water because of the weather, so I had probably lost even if the scale wasn't showing it. We moved on from there for the moment.

Then, I asked about the 2nd fertility clinic referral. She said they won't even return her calls anymore. So, that's out. She said that some specialty places here (fertility clinics, child psychologists, etc) only accept referrals from ONE of the 3 hospitals. So, they're probably ignoring her because she's not with their "preferred" hospital. What a bunch of shit. Anyway, I told her about the FS I hated leaving the clinic I'd been to and some new guy taking over. She asked me to call right then and get a consult scheduled, so I did. I have an appointment on Aug 28 @ 10:30am.

I asked her about my progesterone level and showed her my chart. She said that she actually wondered if it had been done on the wrong day, because my level was almost double what it had been every other time it was checked. After seeing my chart, she said without question that I had it done 3 days too late. She agrees 100% that I did ovulate and my level barely rises afterward. She confirmed that it could have caused everything, because it probably didn't ever rise enough to sustain an embryo past the very, very beginning stage and never got high enough to have the sharp drop required to instigate the bleed. She all but said "mystery solved." She also agreed with me splitting my chart and calling this CD4, even though there was no bleed other than the super light spotting. Apparently, there wouldn't be much to shed since I probably didn't form much of a lining anyway. So, I really did have it all figured out! :thumbup: Maybe I should just get the degree to make my life easier. :winkwink: Although, she wants to wait for the FS to prescribe the progesterone supplements, because she said they would know more about the dosage and whatnot.

Anyway, we touched back on the weight thing, and she asked if I'd consider not trying this cycle and going back on Phentermine. Well, with the FS appointment coming up, I didn't really want to try this cycle anyway, because I don't have my post-O progesterone supplements... So, it would just end in heartbreak again anyway. Obviously, I agreed right away. Phentermine is how I lost the weight before, so I'm more than happy to do it that way again. She stressed that I absolutely couldn't TTC while taking it, but the paperwork tells a different story and my old OB/GYN who prescribed it said it would be fine. So, I'm not quite convinced, even though I'm perfectly happy with not trying this cycle.

So, I do feel like I got somewhere. I feel like I have the answer I needed. Knowing that I wasn't talking nonsense about the test being done the wrong day and whatnot feels really good. I'm also glad she isn't so closed-minded that the number on the paper is the end-all-be-all of things... That she wasn't so high and mighty (like so many doctors are) to admit that there are flaws in blood tests because of human error. She was absolutely certain that I had it right though... She said she absolutely didn't believe I hadn't ovulated. So, I did ovulate on CD25... and I had a fairly normal cycle... other than terrible freaking progesterone levels.

I mentioned the estrogen dominance thing, and she doesn't think that's what I'm dealing with. So, we didn't go any further into that option.

All in all, I came away very happy. I didn't quite get what I hoped for, but I got something better! I got my freaking answer! I'm quite certain as to why I've lost my babies... and I think we can now prevent it from happening again for the same reason! Obviously, something can always go wrong that's not within our control, but I will NEVER allow another to be lost due to insufficient progesterone levels! I feel so free, vindicated, hopeful... but I do feel a bit sad that I didn't have a chance to prove it before losing the 2nd one, as I was pretty sure that this was the problem even back then... even before losing the first one! It was just that no one would listen to me! :growlmad:

Either way... I have my answer now... I can't live in the past! Apparently I needed to live through what I've lived through to be allowed to find my answer. So, that's the way it is and I can move forward... ONWARD AND UPWARD!

Sorry that this was a novel... but it is! LOL Thanks for the love and support! I couldn't do it without all of you! :hugs:
 
:hi:

Hope you don't mind me popping in, I know I have nothing to do with this thread but have been hunting for updates on Sam and stumbled in here and just read the news. Fingers crossed for Sam and Aggie x
 
hey Ladies, how are you all doing?....hope your all doing well....

Sam how are you and Aggie doing?...miss you dearly...:hugs:is she kicking alot?...how is Matt and the kids doing?...Hope your having a great week..

Megg hun how can that be showing that you didn't ovulate when your chart showed it?:nope: I'm sorry hun...are you still going to keep taking the soy or take clomid? I know its very frustrating and your in my thoughts hun...I'm so glad that you have answers now...hoping you catch an egg soon hun...

Lindsey how are you doing? have you got AF yet?...well i seen that you were getting a high on your monitor so i'm hoping that you have ovulated hun...and catch that egg...:hugs:

to the rest of the wonderful ladies on here hope your night is wonderful ...:hugs::hugs:
 
frogger3240 said:
hey Ladies, how are you all doing?....hope your all doing well....

Sam how are you and Aggie doing?...miss you dearly...:hugs:is she kicking alot?...how is Matt and the kids doing?...Hope your having a great week..

Megg hun how can that be showing that you didn't ovulate when your chart showed it?:nope: I'm sorry hun...are you still going to keep taking the soy or take clomid? I know its very frustrating and your in my thoughts hun...I'm so glad that you have answers now...hoping you catch an egg soon hun...

Lindsey how are you doing? have you got AF yet?...well i seen that you were getting a high on your monitor so i'm hoping that you have ovulated hun...and catch that egg...:hugs:

to the rest of the wonderful ladies on here hope your night is wonderful ...:hugs::hugs:
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Well, that's the thing... Obviously, my levels were dreadfully low, and it stands to reason that I took the test 3 days late... We can see that in hindsight. So, if my levels started really low, its very likely that it could have dropped drastically in those 3 days. So, I did ovulate... I just didn't get my blood drawn in time to prove it exactly. She assured me that I shouldn't worry that I didn't ovulate... She definitely thinks I did. I'll just require massive amounts of progesterone after ovulation. No biggie... We should be able to counteract the problem and make the next one sticky!
 
morning girls, hope you are all well today,
Linds thanks for updating,xx

ok so the situation is this, went for scan and as you all know i felt very uneasy yesterday morning, so when i went in she began the scan and the atmosphere just changed, i knew there was something wrong straight off the bat, she is ootling breech at the moment, head on my left side spine across the top of by bump legs going down and feet in my pubic region. the cord is gathered up around her feet and one loop is around her foot. still a ridiculous amount of cord there, 3 loops have now formed as the cord is hypercoiling as she is spinning round, she did this during the scan also, stayed in the same position but spun 360 degrees again twisting the cord. the loops are in close proximity to her head so if she decides to go head down chances are those loops will go over her head and round her neck, as there is hypercoiling they think the loops are going to turn into knots pretty soon.
my amniotic fluid has also decreased although i am really not sure as to where that will have gone or why?
so went to antenatal afterwards and the doc says to me "oh we were expecting this" i was like WTF? they told me what happened with LM was a freak accident so why were they expecting it? and mores to the point why didn't they tell me? so she automatically says that they are going to begin steroids next wednesday with my second shot on thursday, this will apparently last her until about 30 weeks but she is thinking more of a 27 week delivery, if by any small chance she makes it past 30 weeks they may give her another course of steroids at 31/32 weeks. but i have been told to go home and sort my hospital bags etc and basically prepare for her coming in the next few weeks, i just hope she can hold on or a bit longer, she is still too small in my eyes.
so yesterday she continued to spin and kick but then this morning nothing again, arrggghhhhh!!!! so back on my paranoid stint again lol. so got fetal medicine specialist on Friday at Cardiff so we shall see what position she is in then, they are talking about scanning me twice a week from next week which for me is much better as i will only have a few days inbetween. apart from that bombshell she looks great, very active and hb and doppler flow looking good. just wondering where my amniotic fluid has gone????
 
Morning Girls -i've only been up about 40 mins - decided sleeping was a good way to avoid the heat - nudger seems quiet atm - which isnt too disimilar from normal, ususally get a wriggle after breakfast (which im only 1/2 way through) - have a very afternoon active baby in here.


Sam i hope aggie holds on a little bit longer, but im glad the hos are starting the steriods for you x x
 
Hi Ladies,

Megg yes it makes sense now doh!:dohh:. You definately did ovulate without question. I'm loving the positive attitude and I'm glad they can sort it for you. Something so simple. Hormones eh! who needs em lol. Here's to next months sticky!!

Sam Aggie is going to be fine I just know it. You have so much more monitoring this time and the steroids will definately help. I have a feeling we may be meeting aggie closer to the 32 week mark. Good Luck for tomorrow. It's good that they are scanning you twice a week.

Jo how you doin hun? still surviving the heat bless you! Hope nudger is enjoying breakfast. I'm off brekkie this morning, I can't stomach this diet anymore and my stomach is refusing the food, can't physically swallow it. Hey ho though only 2 days to go and I can eat normal again :happydance:.

Hello to the rest of you. Hope you all have a good day.x
 
MissyMojo said:
Morning Girls -i've only been up about 40 mins - decided sleeping was a good way to avoid the heat - nudger seems quiet atm - which isnt too disimilar from normal, ususally get a wriggle after breakfast (which im only 1/2 way through) - have a very afternoon active baby in here.


Sam i hope aggie holds on a little bit longer, but im glad the hos are starting the steriods for you x x
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wish i could have a lie in, got about an hours sleep last night, soooooo tired. hope the heat a bit gentler on you today and Nudger gets moving soon,xx
 
Doodar said:
Hi Ladies,

Megg yes it makes sense now doh!:dohh:. You definately did ovulate without question. I'm loving the positive attitude and I'm glad they can sort it for you. Something so simple. Hormones eh! who needs em lol. Here's to next months sticky!!

Sam Aggie is going to be fine I just know it. You have so much more monitoring this time and the steroids will definately help. I have a feeling we may be meeting aggie closer to the 32 week mark. Good Luck for tomorrow. It's good that they are scanning you twice a week.

Jo how you doin hun? still surviving the heat bless you! Hope nudger is enjoying breakfast. I'm off brekkie this morning, I can't stomach this diet anymore and my stomach is refusing the food, can't physically swallow it. Hey ho though only 2 days to go and I can eat normal again :happydance:.

Hello to the rest of you. Hope you all have a good day.x
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hey hun, how you doing?xx
 
Megg33k said:
Aww... Big hugs to Sam! I wish I could help, but I'm in no position.

Back from docs! I'm re-posting from my journal so you don't have to track down what happened. Putting it behind the spoiler because its SO long!
Okay... I got there at 10:25am. There were 2 guys and one woman with 2 children who she didn't seem to need to have any control over waiting already. I really thought I'd never get to see her, as I figured I'd already be in prison for slaying the stupid woman and her obnoxious kids. They were jumping on the chairs, running around, trying to climb the wall while holding on to the receptionist's ledge, panting like dogs, flipping over chairs, playing some "game" where they would hold their hands up to their eyes like binoculars and ask each other "Are you in 1 piece or 2 pieces?" and whatever the other one said was always the wrong answer... This game is very loud, and it went on forever. One of them proceeded to go to the parking lot alone (at maybe 7?) and came back in spilling an entire McDonald's breakfast platter on the floor... pancakes, hashbrown, eggs, etc. Some poor girl came in right after me who had a 10:30am appointment and sat through all of this too. The 2 guys got called in, but I got called in before the woman with the kids or the girl with an appointment... odd, but okay. It was 11:30am I think? So, not ages, but felt like ages.

Anyway, the nurse comes in to do blood pressure and temp and says to me "Do you not have a gynecologist set up yet?" I told her that I didn't have one I liked at the moment. Keep in mind, my paperwork stated my reason for the visit was "discuss lab results" because that was part of it. Anyway, she then says, "Well, you need to get that done, because she can't keep doing this. It isn't her job." She's referring to my doctor, in case you wondered. Odd... Its not my doctor's job to discuss my test results with me? Because, I think it might be!

Well, my blood pressure was 149/84. I wonder why! I was annoyed with the kids, fuming about what the nurse said... OF COURSE IT WAS HIGH!

My doctor comes in and is perfectly nice. I keep my thoughts about the nurse to myself, because I didn't want to taint the appointment with that at the very beginning. First, I explain that I've been eating better and trying to be more active to no avail (my 10lb loss seems to fluctuate on the day... some days its 10lbs, some days its 1lb... I think my scale sucks). Anyway, we talked about that for a bit. She said that she thinks I might be gaining some muscle mass, which I doubt... but it was nice to hear. Then, she said that she also thought I might be retaining some water because of the weather, so I had probably lost even if the scale wasn't showing it. We moved on from there for the moment.

Then, I asked about the 2nd fertility clinic referral. She said they won't even return her calls anymore. So, that's out. She said that some specialty places here (fertility clinics, child psychologists, etc) only accept referrals from ONE of the 3 hospitals. So, they're probably ignoring her because she's not with their "preferred" hospital. What a bunch of shit. Anyway, I told her about the FS I hated leaving the clinic I'd been to and some new guy taking over. She asked me to call right then and get a consult scheduled, so I did. I have an appointment on Aug 28 @ 10:30am.

I asked her about my progesterone level and showed her my chart. She said that she actually wondered if it had been done on the wrong day, because my level was almost double what it had been every other time it was checked. After seeing my chart, she said without question that I had it done 3 days too late. She agrees 100% that I did ovulate and my level barely rises afterward. She confirmed that it could have caused everything, because it probably didn't ever rise enough to sustain an embryo past the very, very beginning stage and never got high enough to have the sharp drop required to instigate the bleed. She all but said "mystery solved." She also agreed with me splitting my chart and calling this CD4, even though there was no bleed other than the super light spotting. Apparently, there wouldn't be much to shed since I probably didn't form much of a lining anyway. So, I really did have it all figured out! :thumbup: Maybe I should just get the degree to make my life easier. :winkwink: Although, she wants to wait for the FS to prescribe the progesterone supplements, because she said they would know more about the dosage and whatnot.

Anyway, we touched back on the weight thing, and she asked if I'd consider not trying this cycle and going back on Phentermine. Well, with the FS appointment coming up, I didn't really want to try this cycle anyway, because I don't have my post-O progesterone supplements... So, it would just end in heartbreak again anyway. Obviously, I agreed right away. Phentermine is how I lost the weight before, so I'm more than happy to do it that way again. She stressed that I absolutely couldn't TTC while taking it, but the paperwork tells a different story and my old OB/GYN who prescribed it said it would be fine. So, I'm not quite convinced, even though I'm perfectly happy with not trying this cycle.

So, I do feel like I got somewhere. I feel like I have the answer I needed. Knowing that I wasn't talking nonsense about the test being done the wrong day and whatnot feels really good. I'm also glad she isn't so closed-minded that the number on the paper is the end-all-be-all of things... That she wasn't so high and mighty (like so many doctors are) to admit that there are flaws in blood tests because of human error. She was absolutely certain that I had it right though... She said she absolutely didn't believe I hadn't ovulated. So, I did ovulate on CD25... and I had a fairly normal cycle... other than terrible freaking progesterone levels.

I mentioned the estrogen dominance thing, and she doesn't think that's what I'm dealing with. So, we didn't go any further into that option.

All in all, I came away very happy. I didn't quite get what I hoped for, but I got something better! I got my freaking answer! I'm quite certain as to why I've lost my babies... and I think we can now prevent it from happening again for the same reason! Obviously, something can always go wrong that's not within our control, but I will NEVER allow another to be lost due to insufficient progesterone levels! I feel so free, vindicated, hopeful... but I do feel a bit sad that I didn't have a chance to prove it before losing the 2nd one, as I was pretty sure that this was the problem even back then... even before losing the first one! It was just that no one would listen to me! :growlmad:

Either way... I have my answer now... I can't live in the past! Apparently I needed to live through what I've lived through to be allowed to find my answer. So, that's the way it is and I can move forward... ONWARD AND UPWARD!

Sorry that this was a novel... but it is! LOL Thanks for the love and support! I couldn't do it without all of you! :hugs:
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just goes to show you that your own intuiton is what you should trust, least you are now getting some answers hun,xx
 
Hey girls :D

forgot to say earlier (sleepy head brain) Megg - glad your dr was helpful and looked thru ur chart etc and your getting the help u need to get the sticky bean you deserve

Linz - i reli hope ur cycles get sorted soon my darlin

Sam - ur siggys pretty :D sory you didnt get much sleep x hope Aggie stays active for you x x

nudger woke up for a little bit after brekie and has gone bk off to sleep - its damn hot - it doesnt ease up at all and probably wont for the next 6 weeks or so -- current temp 37c, current humidity level 66%
 
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