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Long Term Trying To Conceive Vent Thread

NEVER been so hurt, angry and let down before... after 7 months with the FS they will NOT help me at all because I dont have PSOS - WTF???

they say of my blood tests (each month) 1 showed mild ovulation so I count as 'unexplained' fertility and they will refer me for IVF (which I dont qualify for and cant afford) but they wont even try Clomid because apparently it is ONLY used for PSOS and not for people with week, damaged or irregular ovulation - fucking bollox

well since im a medical scientist and I know my body, understand my test, know the doctor is talking bollox and am more the qualified/knowledgeable to monitor myself and have access to all the equipment needed in the lab (just cant prescribe) anyone know any Canadian websites where I can buy Clomid?

pretty much a year wasted (as they wont even consider a second opinion for another 3 months making it 11 and a half months ive been under their 'care')

also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)


Won't they consider IUI for you? I'm pretty sure the NICE guidelines say that you should be referred for IUI first in the case of unexplained IF. And they should do the IUI cycle with Clomid and injectables.

Yeah, it sucks they won't prescribe you clomid, but don't go ordering stuff online. You don't know what dosage you need...and if it goes pear-shaped, you should be in a doctors care. Not saying you can't be a better doctor to yourself, just saying you need to take care of yourself. It's discouraging, but there are other options.

Why not try soy isoflavones? Some women take it because it's very much like Clomid, just more natural...And it would give you something to do while you wait for your second opinion...
 
Walking into house today, someone walking past with their dog commented on the fact she had been interested in buying our house. We just moved in a month ago, she said it looks like a good family home. Sadly being unexplained and just failed our first IVF cycle. Sadly don't think we will be bringing a child home.
 
NEVER been so hurt, angry and let down before... after 7 months with the FS they will NOT help me at all because I dont have PSOS - WTF???

they say of my blood tests (each month) 1 showed mild ovulation so I count as 'unexplained' fertility and they will refer me for IVF (which I dont qualify for and cant afford) but they wont even try Clomid because apparently it is ONLY used for PSOS and not for people with week, damaged or irregular ovulation - fucking bollox

well since im a medical scientist and I know my body, understand my test, know the doctor is talking bollox and am more the qualified/knowledgeable to monitor myself and have access to all the equipment needed in the lab (just cant prescribe) anyone know any Canadian websites where I can buy Clomid?

pretty much a year wasted (as they wont even consider a second opinion for another 3 months making it 11 and a half months ive been under their 'care')

also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)

I am so so sorry to hear about this that is crazy!!! No that is bullshit. How can they just write you off like that they haven't even tried to find the answer yet! As if it is PCOS or nothing. So stupid

If you find clomid from Canada let me know I have been wanting to buy some but haven't found a reliable source yet.

Big hugs friend
 
NEVER been so hurt, angry and let down before... after 7 months with the FS they will NOT help me at all because I dont have PSOS - WTF???

they say of my blood tests (each month) 1 showed mild ovulation so I count as 'unexplained' fertility and they will refer me for IVF (which I dont qualify for and cant afford) but they wont even try Clomid because apparently it is ONLY used for PSOS and not for people with week, damaged or irregular ovulation - fucking bollox

well since im a medical scientist and I know my body, understand my test, know the doctor is talking bollox and am more the qualified/knowledgeable to monitor myself and have access to all the equipment needed in the lab (just cant prescribe) anyone know any Canadian websites where I can buy Clomid?

pretty much a year wasted (as they wont even consider a second opinion for another 3 months making it 11 and a half months ive been under their 'care')

also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)

I am so so sorry to hear about this that is crazy!!! No that is bullshit. How can they just write you off like that they haven't even tried to find the answer yet! As if it is PCOS or nothing. So stupid

If you find clomid from Canada let me know I have been wanting to buy some but haven't found a reliable source yet.

Big hugs friend

Ive calmed down now but I bet its the NHS lottery, they are fobbing me off just because I dont qualify for NHS IVF so they will save money... I bet if I did qualify for IVF they would try clomid first as its the cheaper option

I failed to find any Canada ones that didn't ask for a prescription :cry: but found 2 recommended ones:

1 is India (supposedly)
1 Mexican

and both cheep so no real loss if the dont arrive or arrive and look dodgy (they sound ligit though)

Ive ordered some from the India one as it sounds more serious and India is suppose to be good and regulated with clomid... it'll take a month to arrive so I guess its wait and see (they are supposes to come fully sealed in the offical clomid packaging too)

ill let you know if it arrives and is as described :thumbup:
 
NEVER been so hurt, angry and let down before... after 7 months with the FS they will NOT help me at all because I dont have PSOS - WTF???

they say of my blood tests (each month) 1 showed mild ovulation so I count as 'unexplained' fertility and they will refer me for IVF (which I dont qualify for and cant afford) but they wont even try Clomid because apparently it is ONLY used for PSOS and not for people with week, damaged or irregular ovulation - fucking bollox

well since im a medical scientist and I know my body, understand my test, know the doctor is talking bollox and am more the qualified/knowledgeable to monitor myself and have access to all the equipment needed in the lab (just cant prescribe) anyone know any Canadian websites where I can buy Clomid?

pretty much a year wasted (as they wont even consider a second opinion for another 3 months making it 11 and a half months ive been under their 'care')

also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)


Won't they consider IUI for you? I'm pretty sure the NICE guidelines say that you should be referred for IUI first in the case of unexplained IF. And they should do the IUI cycle with Clomid and injectables.

Yeah, it sucks they won't prescribe you clomid, but don't go ordering stuff online. You don't know what dosage you need...and if it goes pear-shaped, you should be in a doctors care. Not saying you can't be a better doctor to yourself, just saying you need to take care of yourself. It's discouraging, but there are other options.

Why not try soy isoflavones? Some women take it because it's very much like Clomid, just more natural...And it would give you something to do while you wait for your second opinion...

according to the FS 3 years is the referral time (were are just past 2 and a half years if you include the NTNP) for IVF and at that point any other intervention wont increase our chances so by the review period in 4 months (even though they always say 3 months but yet again have made the booking 4 months away) we will be just at the 3 year period :wacko:


im positive they doing this just to save money... dont know how they justify fobbing people with medical issues off for a relatively small amount of money and yet they can do unnecessary expensive things like cosmetic only boob jobs on the NHS

they wont even treat for my high estrogen dispute the fact I have many other quite sever medical issues liked to it and im under 3 different clinics (general, fertility and breast) for it, due to go in for surgery for a growing tumor (hormone fed) where as estrogen blockers (clomid happens to be one) would mean I wouldn't have to :cry:
 
also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)

AND ANOTHER JUST ANNOUNCED THEIR PREGNANCY TOO... ARE YOU KIDDING ME, IS EVERYONE EXCEPT ME PREGNANT????

I can usually handle it really well if its 1 at a time 2 max but now its everyone - family, friends, random fucking strangers and im not in the mood to pretend I give a fuck when the hospital basically told me I wont be getting pregnant anytime soon (unless I win the lottery and can suddenly afford IVF) and ontop of that just got a letter from the hospital that they are referring me to a surgeon for a possible double mastectomy for the other fucking problem they never treated

unable to get pregnant and soon to be breast-less... I might as well just start taking testosterone, change my name to Dave and make peace with the fact that nature seems to think I should be a man :cry:
 
also insult to injury... 5 yes 5 fucking people have announced their pregnancy on facebook in the last 2 fucking days and 3 have just had babies and 1 is moaning constantly about a miscarriage despite the fact she drinks, smokes, got tattooed and took nothing seriously (of a baby she threatened to 'kill' more than 8 times)

AND ANOTHER JUST ANNOUNCED THEIR PREGNANCY TOO... ARE YOU KIDDING ME, IS EVERYONE EXCEPT ME PREGNANT????

I can usually handle it really well if its 1 at a time 2 max but now its everyone - family, friends, random fucking strangers and im not in the mood to pretend I give a fuck when the hospital basically told me I wont be getting pregnant anytime soon (unless I win the lottery and can suddenly afford IVF) and ontop of that just got a letter from the hospital that they are referring me to a surgeon for a possible double mastectomy for the other fucking problem they never treated

unable to get pregnant and soon to be breast-less... I might as well just start taking testosterone, change my name to Dave and make peace with the fact that nature seems to think I should be a man :cry:

I'm so sorry... That's a whole helluvalot for anyone to deal with. Wish I had some words of wisdom, but I don't. Here's all I got- :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
not so much a rant but more of a gripe

am I the only one who gets sick of hearing people moan and cry or bitch about others getting a BFP when they havnt and how unfair it is when they have only been trying for 1 MONTH????

seriously 1 whole month, how hard it must be for them... I feel like saying 'oh, boo frickin hoo' - if you have been actively trying less than 4 months minimum then I really dont want to hear you moan about anything, grow up its not instantaneous the first time you have sex ffs

I didn't even bother looking up forums until 5 months of actively trying (and longer of NTNP) and didn't even begin to worry until 9 months and the bitching about others BFP (on here) is relatively new (after over 2 years and being told frankly that it probably wont happen)





p.s sorry for all the recent posts... its kind of nice to have somewhere to moan, just ignore me and my miserable-ness
 
not so much a rant but more of a gripe

am I the only one who gets sick of hearing people moan and cry or bitch about others getting a BFP when they havnt and how unfair it is when they have only been trying for 1 MONTH????

seriously 1 whole month, how hard it must be for them... I feel like saying 'oh, boo frickin hoo' - if you have been actively trying less than 4 months minimum then I really dont want to hear you moan about anything, grow up its not instantaneous the first time you have sex ffs

I didn't even bother looking up forums until 5 months of actively trying (and longer of NTNP) and didn't even begin to worry until 9 months and the bitching about others BFP (on here) is relatively new (after over 2 years and being told frankly that it probably wont happen)





p.s sorry for all the recent posts... its kind of nice to have somewhere to moan, just ignore me and my miserable-ness

Yes!! I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Ugh, drives me crazy!

It also annoys me when people respond to a post and say they know exactly how I feel...and they've been trying for 1-3 months. No, you don't know EXACTLY how I feel.
 
not so much a rant but more of a gripe

am I the only one who gets sick of hearing people moan and cry or bitch about others getting a BFP when they havnt and how unfair it is when they have only been trying for 1 MONTH????

seriously 1 whole month, how hard it must be for them... I feel like saying 'oh, boo frickin hoo' - if you have been actively trying less than 4 months minimum then I really dont want to hear you moan about anything, grow up its not instantaneous the first time you have sex ffs

I didn't even bother looking up forums until 5 months of actively trying (and longer of NTNP) and didn't even begin to worry until 9 months and the bitching about others BFP (on here) is relatively new (after over 2 years and being told frankly that it probably wont happen)





p.s sorry for all the recent posts... its kind of nice to have somewhere to moan, just ignore me and my miserable-ness

Yes!! I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Ugh, drives me crazy!

It also annoys me when people respond to a post and say they know exactly how I feel...and they've been trying for 1-3 months. No, you don't know EXACTLY how I feel.

it always just seem infantile for people to moan that soon... it reminds me of when I was a teenager and everyone wanted a baby but 90% of people where only together a month or so and moaning they weren't pregnant yet (even though I doubt half of the paid enough attention in school to even know what ovulation is)

its always annoying not getting a BFP but if you so desperately need it in the first 3 months then why?

I found most people that try to get pregnant that fast are just trying to 'keep' a guy who is usually gone in a few months anyway... or maybe I need to improve my caliber of friends from the Jeremy kyle crowd lol

there is one girl on Facebook who is constantly pregnant to different men (she just had a miscarriage of a baby she kept threatening to kill because the dad had a new girlfriend even though she had had 3 new boyfriend in that time and was only 8 weeks gone so im expecting the next 'birth announcement' next month or so to the 'new' boyfriend who ever he maybe) and she hasn't been with a single one longer than 2 weeks :nope: its going to suck when she wakes up from her teenage angst to realize the only people shes fucked up is her and her kids and she proved nothing to no one by trying to grow up too quick
 
Me & dh have been ttc for about 2 years!
3 cycles of Clomid/Fertomid-BFN

I've just found out that my sister is 4 1/2 weeks & she wasn't even trying! What the hell??? My brother also had his bundle of joy 8 months ago!


When is it going to be my turn?
I announced that I'll be doing IUI in a month and I was so excited, but I was quickly brought back to reality with the news!
I cried the whole night! I'm still quite emotional!

Its crazy that we have to go through this! I hate it! I hate it! I hate it!

Hoping that time can fly past and I can do the IUI!


The lady that can't get a script for clomid from your FS, try a OB/GYN. My ob/gyn prescribed it for me(although it didn't work for me). Hope you get that script!
 
just over heard my son say to his dad 'why hasn't mummy had any more babies yet'... what am I meant to say to that???

hes too young to understand anything about it but old enough to realize he is the only kid at school without a brother or sister :cry:
 
JJKCB- I can so relate to your kid being the only one that doesn't have a sibling. My dd is 6 years old and she's been asking me for the last 2 1/2 years for a sister/brother. I don't know what 2 say to her anymore!!!
 
I do not have even a single kid. I would be happy with even one :(
Why God is so cruel?
 
I don't usually vent but....

It is SO HARD to see three different pregnancy announcements in my facebook feed in the past two days while I'm still dealing with the after effects of my m/c.

I'm happy for them, truly, because I would never wish IF on anyone...but please, can it be my turn soon?
 
Dialled into a call today, the PM announced a second birth within project team. I don't want to know about random people giving birth.
 
How i wish I remembered what it felt like to be HAPPY! Honestly feel like the last time was 3 years ago :-( before we started TTC.
Had our last failed IUI in Jan 2014 and dr decided that it was time for us to move on to IVF.
Started lupron shots on 27/02 and lo and behold my sister in law delivers her baby on 04/03 and moves in to the house we live in together with the baby so my MIL can help her with the baby! (dh and I are temporarily living with his parents while the constrcution at our house is being completed).
SO while going throuhg this painful anonymous journey (as nobody knows we are TTC) theres a newborn baby in the house and baby stuff EVERYWHERE. My hormones are out of control due to the injections, and I have turned into a horrible nasty bitter person which I HATE, cos this is not me!!
Just so angry cos the timing could not possibly be worse, just when I need to de-stress I have to look at this baby SHIT all over the place!
I feel there is so much riding on this as I doubt we will be able to afford another IVF, and its really taking its toll on me. It CONSUMES every minute of every day of my existance:nope::sad2:
 
Today I got pictures from my brother of my SIL with their newborn baby boy. This is their second child. We're going to visit this weekend, and purely by luck will get to meet our new nephew. Part of me is so excited to get to see him. The other part of me is profoundly sad and wants to weep. I know you all get that.
 
Pyrus and Despondent I can actually relate with you girls. I want to say I am FED UP! I can't take it any more..such a long ttc. I am gaining weight, my hairs are falling but when I see around everyone else is getting pregnant. Why MEEEE?????I Want to be a Momma, hate to be an aunty now. I know I am being rude but this is how I feel.
What have I don't to not have even a single baby? Don't I deserve it?
 
well somebody cant do math/understand biology.... a rant at reporters lol

just seen several newspaper/blogs announcing confirmation that some 'celebrity' is pregnant - she is apparently due either 31st of December 2014 or 1st of January 2015...

some explain to me how the fuck they figured that out when people due on the 8th are only just finding out today (early by the way) that they are pregnant????

she wouldn't even implant for another week minimum

unless she can see into the future their is not a cat in hells chance she can 'confirm' now that she is pregnant with a baby that's due next year :dohh:

the stupidity amazes me
 

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