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That's great news! Keep BDing so you wouldn't miss your early O.

AFM - i have to wait like 2 more weeks, before i will O :growlmad: :coffee: but i will just take it easy with my temping and stuff, no obsessing. Baby will come when it's time for him/her to come, no matter what we do or how hard we try :)
 
That's great news! Keep BDing so you wouldn't miss your early O.

AFM - i have to wait like 2 more weeks, before i will O :growlmad: :coffee: but i will just take it easy with my temping and stuff, no obsessing. Baby will come when it's time for him/her to come, no matter what we do or how hard we try :)

Ice,
You're right, and you've got a great mindset.

BTW, have you ever used a saliva fertility monitor? This is my first full cycle of using it, and I'm loving it!!
 
Ice,
You're right, and you've got a great mindset.

BTW, have you ever used a saliva fertility monitor? This is my first full cycle of using it, and I'm loving it!!

No i haven't even heard of it..i have heard of saliva opk tests that you can use for forever :D How does that fertility monitor work and why you love it so much?
 
Grrrr no O yet. The smiley faces I got were the flashy ones indicating estrogen rose. No LH surge yet :(. I would get the CBFM but it is SO expensive. Maybe after a few more months with no luck.
 
Ice,
You're right, and you've got a great mindset.

BTW, have you ever used a saliva fertility monitor? This is my first full cycle of using it, and I'm loving it!!

No i haven't even heard of it..i have heard of saliva opk tests that you can use for forever :D How does that fertility monitor work and why you love it so much?

Hi Ice,

I think maybe we are talking about the same thing…It’s a little tube with a magnifying glass that you put saliva on. You then look through the magnifying glass.

I love love love it because it totally gave me a heads up on my o. Saturday morning was the first day I started getting partial ferning. Once I got the partial ferning, I then started using opk’s once a day, in the evening, to test for the o. The opk’s were all negative--not even a hint of color, until last night. Last night wasn’t just a hint of color--it was a positive! So was this morning’s opk--positive! For some reason, the last 2 cycles my opk’s have gone from zero (no color) to 60 (positive) so quickly! Meaning, I used to get some sort of color on the opk’s at a certain point…then they gradually get darker and darker. Not lately. They go from no color-to positive. That’s how I missed the o a couple of cycles ago. I was used to getting that notice/gradual coloring to tell me o was on it’s way, but for some reason that stopped happening.

So the saliva monitor gave me 3 days notice before the opk’s. When I started getting the partial ferning, I made sure to put the BD’ing on overdrive lol!
Today I am CD13, so I will prob o sometime between tomorrow and Thursday (I hope I didn’t just jinx myself!!). So, if I o as scheduled, then I will definitely count myself as one of the lucky few whose cycle/o wasn’t pushed out by the soy. Unless, that means that the soy didn’t work for me?? Oh well, I guess we’ll see soon enough. I’ll use the soy for 2 more cycles, and will up the dosage a bit, if this cycle results in a bfn.
 
Grrrr no O yet. The smiley faces I got were the flashy ones indicating estrogen rose. No LH surge yet :(. I would get the CBFM but it is SO expensive. Maybe after a few more months with no luck.

How annoying for you!! I guess all you can do is keep BD'ing and enjoy it. I'm sure OH will appreciate it :haha:
 
Hi Ice,

I think maybe we are talking about the same thing…It’s a little tube with a magnifying glass that you put saliva on. You then look through the magnifying glass.

I love love love it because it totally gave me a heads up on my o. Saturday morning was the first day I started getting partial ferning. Once I got the partial ferning, I then started using opk’s once a day, in the evening, to test for the o. The opk’s were all negative--not even a hint of color, until last night. Last night wasn’t just a hint of color--it was a positive! So was this morning’s opk--positive! For some reason, the last 2 cycles my opk’s have gone from zero (no color) to 60 (positive) so quickly! Meaning, I used to get some sort of color on the opk’s at a certain point…then they gradually get darker and darker. Not lately. They go from no color-to positive. That’s how I missed the o a couple of cycles ago. I was used to getting that notice/gradual coloring to tell me o was on it’s way, but for some reason that stopped happening.

So the saliva monitor gave me 3 days notice before the opk’s. When I started getting the partial ferning, I made sure to put the BD’ing on overdrive lol!
Today I am CD13, so I will prob o sometime between tomorrow and Thursday (I hope I didn’t just jinx myself!!). So, if I o as scheduled, then I will definitely count myself as one of the lucky few whose cycle/o wasn’t pushed out by the soy. Unless, that means that the soy didn’t work for me?? Oh well, I guess we’ll see soon enough. I’ll use the soy for 2 more cycles, and will up the dosage a bit, if this cycle results in a bfn.

Yes looks like we talked about the same thing hehehe. I don't even mess with opk's anymore i will just go with my CM and CP. I wish i could O so early, i'm CD13 and i have no signs of O yet :D I have decided that this will be my last round of soy. Next cycle i will go ahead and try Vitex again.

Just because you O around the same time you usually do doesn't mean that soy didn't work for you. You might get a stronger O ;) Hopefully you don't need anymore soy after this cycle :D
 
Hi Ice,

I think maybe we are talking about the same thing…It’s a little tube with a magnifying glass that you put saliva on. You then look through the magnifying glass.

I love love love it because it totally gave me a heads up on my o. Saturday morning was the first day I started getting partial ferning. Once I got the partial ferning, I then started using opk’s once a day, in the evening, to test for the o. The opk’s were all negative--not even a hint of color, until last night. Last night wasn’t just a hint of color--it was a positive! So was this morning’s opk--positive! For some reason, the last 2 cycles my opk’s have gone from zero (no color) to 60 (positive) so quickly! Meaning, I used to get some sort of color on the opk’s at a certain point…then they gradually get darker and darker. Not lately. They go from no color-to positive. That’s how I missed the o a couple of cycles ago. I was used to getting that notice/gradual coloring to tell me o was on it’s way, but for some reason that stopped happening.

So the saliva monitor gave me 3 days notice before the opk’s. When I started getting the partial ferning, I made sure to put the BD’ing on overdrive lol!
Today I am CD13, so I will prob o sometime between tomorrow and Thursday (I hope I didn’t just jinx myself!!). So, if I o as scheduled, then I will definitely count myself as one of the lucky few whose cycle/o wasn’t pushed out by the soy. Unless, that means that the soy didn’t work for me?? Oh well, I guess we’ll see soon enough. I’ll use the soy for 2 more cycles, and will up the dosage a bit, if this cycle results in a bfn.

Yes looks like we talked about the same thing hehehe. I don't even mess with opk's anymore i will just go with my CM and CP. I wish i could O so early, i'm CD13 and i have no signs of O yet :D I have decided that this will be my last round of soy. Next cycle i will go ahead and try Vitex again.

Just because you O around the same time you usually do doesn't mean that soy didn't work for you. You might get a stronger O ;) Hopefully you don't need anymore soy after this cycle :D


Thanks! Hopefully you get your bfp and dont have to use the vitex again! :dust:
 
Meli what's the name of the saliva thing u are using?

It's called Fertile Focus saliva ovulation test. I bought it from earlypregnancytests.com

It cost $27.95, and $3 shipping fee. I found an online promo code for 10%off, so I ended up paying $30 for it. It arrived pretty quickly, within 4 business days or so.
 
I didn't really get on with the saliva microscope :wacko: the cbfm is great! I got mine from ebay for £30 I was ruthless with the bidding :haha:
 
I didn't really get on with the saliva microscope :wacko: the cbfm is great! I got mine from ebay for £30 I was ruthless with the bidding :haha:

Yah, it took me a couple of weeks to figure it out. I started using it in the middle of my cycle and was really confused. I decided to give it a chance for one month. I'm glad I did because the next month, it all became much clearer for me.
 
Thanks! Hopefully you get your bfp and dont have to use the vitex again! :dust:

Thanks i hope so too, last night i saw in my dream a positive hpt and that i was pregnant OMG i wish it would come true :haha:
Did you O already? i see you have only 3 temps there ...
 
Thanks! Hopefully you get your bfp and dont have to use the vitex again! :dust:

Thanks i hope so too, last night i saw in my dream a positive hpt and that i was pregnant OMG i wish it would come true :haha:
Did you O already? i see you have only 3 temps there ...

that's a cool dream!
Yah, I meant to start temping on Saturday but I totally forgot until it was too late. I think I will o today, I guess I will know for sure when I see tomorrow's temp. FX! I'd like at least one day off from BD'ing lol!
 
Still no positive opk for me... Getting a bit bummed. It's looking like soy didn't help move my O day up. Maybe the soy will make me have a strong O... feeling a bit pessimistic right now.
 
Still no positive opk for me... Getting a bit bummed. It's looking like soy didn't help move my O day up. Maybe the soy will make me have a strong O... feeling a bit pessimistic right now.

Well, that stinks! FX you have a strong O. It remains to be seen how it works for me, but I'm planning to keep using it for a couple more cycles, regardless of whether or not I see a difference this cycle.

What about you?
 
same. Usually I have an annovulatory month every other cycle so I want to see if the soy makes me O then.
 
Hi Ice and NDTaber,

How are you ladies doing?

NDTaber,

Any sign of o yet??

AFM,

I am pretty sure that I o’d on Tuesday CD13 (although FF hasn’t confirmed it), making me 2dpo today. I usually have O day between CD12 and CD16, so it didn’t push out my o. I have to say that thus far, I haven’t really felt any real difference in having taken the soy. One thing I did notice is that on the days I took the soy, even though I took it at night, I had a headache the next day, and they lasted pretty much all day. They weren’t bad enough to take painkillers, but they were very annoying (but worth it for an enhanced chance to catch the egg)!

I haven’t gotten any out of the ordinary “ovarian twinges” or anything. The only thing different I can see so far is that the day that I o’d, I had a heavy uterine feeling, which I normally don’t get. I also had a weird stomach that day--you know, gastric issues? I hope that was due to an overload of hormones/eggs popping lol!

This cycle I took soy CD5-9, 120/120/160/160/200. I’ve decided if I don’t catch the egg, next cycle I will take soy CD3-7, 160/160/160/200/200.
Anyways, trying to stay positive until at least 11dpo, and we’ll see what my temps do then.
 

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