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[Meli_H]

Minuet,

Sorry to hear of DH’s diagnosis. I hope he recovers soon and y’all can get back on the babymaking train!

Thank you. I'm afraid we are out though. He starts chemo on Monday and we cannot do unprotected BD for a year after that. I am beyond crushed.
Besides all the worry and concern over his health and long term effects of chemo...
I had literally finally just started getting my body back on track. Started getting periods, first cycle of soy - very hopefully that soy would make me ovulate this cycle. And now, Monday is the last day we can DTD. So I have to ovulate by next Wednesday/Thursday to even have a chance.

Otherwise. It means waiting a few months and trying IUI with his banked stuff from last year's surgery. I hate the thought of that though, how it doesn't always work, is costly.....

It's all around very very upsetting.

Minuet,

I'm sorry but I really dont know what to say...I am so sorry to hear that your worst fears have been realized! It sounds like Nichole has great insight to offer you, being as she (unfortunately) has been through the same situation. I am sure that she will get her BFP very soon and have a H&H 9 months. She will serve as an inspiration for you and your future babymaking.

In the meantime, try to be strong for your DH sake. Sending you lots of strength and patience and perseverance. You and your DH will get through this and be stronger as a result.

BIG

 

[Meli_H]

No O for me, temp dropped again to 96.76F. I don't understand what's going on, why my temps dropped like that

Ice,


I'm sorry that I dont have any insight to offer you. All I know is that I think the saliva monitor will def help you. It really helps to get advance notice of the 0-this current cycle, I got the heads up on the monitor on Saturday morning, so I ramped up the BD that day. I ended up o'ing on Wednesday. Had I not had the heads up on Saturday, I prob would have waited to ramp up the BD'ing on Sunday or Monday and missed a couple of days during my fertile period.

 

[NDTaber9211]

Ice- maybe you are having an anovulatory month? When do you usually O?

 

[IceQueen86]

I'm sorry that I dont have any insight to offer you. All I know is that I think the saliva monitor will def help you. It really helps to get advance notice of the 0-this current cycle, I got the heads up on the monitor on Saturday morning, so I ramped up the BD that day. I ended up o'ing on Wednesday. Had I not had the heads up on Saturday, I prob would have waited to ramp up the BD'ing on Sunday or Monday and missed a couple of days during my fertile period.

I have to think about getting it Usually i go buy CM and CP, my CP was disappeared CD18 but i had no EWMC, so i was like i don't think i'm gonna O yet. But since my temps dropped so much i thought that maybe i will O I'm not mad that i didn't O yet, just wondering what could have caused these temp drops below normal.

Ice- maybe you are having an anovulatory month? When do you usually O?

I'm a late O'er , so i have time. FF says i should O next week. Was hoping to O earlier but oh well... Have to research and come up with a new plan to regulate my cycles and stop that mid cycle spotting.

 

[Meli_H]

I'm sorry that I dont have any insight to offer you. All I know is that I think the saliva monitor will def help you. It really helps to get advance notice of the 0-this current cycle, I got the heads up on the monitor on Saturday morning, so I ramped up the BD that day. I ended up o'ing on Wednesday. Had I not had the heads up on Saturday, I prob would have waited to ramp up the BD'ing on Sunday or Monday and missed a couple of days during my fertile period.

I have to think about getting it Usually i go buy CM and CP, my CP was disappeared CD18 but i had no EWMC, so i was like i don't think i'm gonna O yet. But since my temps dropped so much i thought that maybe i will O I'm not mad that i didn't O yet, just wondering what could have caused these temp drops below normal.

Ice- maybe you are having an anovulatory month? When do you usually O?

I'm a late O'er , so i have time. FF says i should O next week. Was hoping to O earlier but oh well... Have to research and come up with a new plan to regulate my cycles and stop that mid cycle spotting.

Ice,
Ok, that makes sense...

 

[minuet]

Sorry to hear about your situation Hopefully your hubby will get better soon and you guys can start planning

PS! I have been struggling with my cycles for a long time and i feel the same way about seeing babies and pregnant women. So if you think that this makes you crazy then i am crazy too

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only crazy one! And I am so sorry that your temp dropped again.

I know how incredibly deflating it is to keep thinking ovulation happened and then get a temp drop again.
Let's hope SI is the secret ingredient for you!

 

[minuet]

I'm sorry but I really dont know what to say...I am so sorry to hear that your worst fears have been realized! It sounds like Nichole has great insight to offer you, being as she (unfortunately) has been through the same situation. I am sure that she will get her BFP very soon and have a H&H 9 months. She will serve as an inspiration for you and your future babymaking.

In the meantime, try to be strong for your DH sake. Sending you lots of strength and patience and perseverance. You and your DH will get through this and be stronger as a result.

BIG

It's ok, you don't have to try and say something. It just helps to have somewhere to say what I'm feeling.
Yes, it also helps that Nicole has been there, but I would have never wished that on her or anyone!
She is sweet and I hope she gets her BFP very quickly! And you as well of course.
We will indeed be stronger. If nothing else all these trials are making us a strong couple relationship wise and that is worth a great deal to me.

 

[minuet]

This is my last shot at naturally TTC for at least 6 months, and I haven't given up hope on the month.
I have a chance if I ovulate even as late as next Wednesday, and we're covering our bases with BDing until then; as his chemo starts bright and early Monday morning.
Today I only saw EWCM in the morning once, and usually I have tons of it so I wonder if that is a good sign or not. The great debate : is soy doing anything or not? Please body, for once in your life, ovulate!
I really wish I'd have known about this earlier, as I'd have risked the Clomid and maybe had a better shot at it. But such is life.
The doctor said we have to wait a year to try, but we'll do an SA at 6 months and see how healthy things are and go from there.

 

[NDTaber9211]

I'm sorry but I really dont know what to say...I am so sorry to hear that your worst fears have been realized! It sounds like Nichole has great insight to offer you, being as she (unfortunately) has been through the same situation. I am sure that she will get her BFP very soon and have a H&H 9 months. She will serve as an inspiration for you and your future babymaking.

In the meantime, try to be strong for your DH sake. Sending you lots of strength and patience and perseverance. You and your DH will get through this and be stronger as a result.

BIG

It's ok, you don't have to try and say something. It just helps to have somewhere to say what I'm feeling.
Yes, it also helps that Nicole has been there, but I would have never wished that on her or anyone!
She is sweet and I hope she gets her BFP very quickly! And you as well of course.
We will indeed be stronger. If nothing else all these trials are making us a strong couple relationship wise and that is worth a great deal to me.

Aww thanks ladies, I hope you are right! We have been trying off and on for 2 years now. It would be lovely to get that BFP.

It's a horrible thing to go through cancer/chemo or know someone who does but using your unfortunate experience to help other people is a silver lining. If I could make that awful situation any easier in some way I am down for it. Hopefully you catch the egg before he starts chemo! It would give him another thing to fight for. All the luck in the world to you.

 

[IceQueen86]

This is my last shot at naturally TTC for at least 6 months, and I haven't given up hope on the month.
I have a chance if I ovulate even as late as next Wednesday, and we're covering our bases with BDing until then; as his chemo starts bright and early Monday morning.
Today I only saw EWCM in the morning once, and usually I have tons of it so I wonder if that is a good sign or not. The great debate : is soy doing anything or not? Please body, for once in your life, ovulate!
I really wish I'd have known about this earlier, as I'd have risked the Clomid and maybe had a better shot at it. But such is life.
The doctor said we have to wait a year to try, but we'll do an SA at 6 months and see how healthy things are and go from there.

Even if you see it once it's a good sign. I have had few cycles were i saw ewmc only once in the morning the day i ovulated. Just cos punch of it don't come out, don't mean you don't have much inside. If you see ewmc that means you are already very fertile So you better get busy to make sure your not gonna miss it in case you will O

 

[minuet]

Even if you see it once it's a good sign. I have had few cycles were i saw ewmc only once in the morning the day i ovulated. Just cos punch of it don't come out, don't mean you don't have much inside. If you see ewmc that means you are already very fertile So you better get busy to make sure your not gonna miss it in case you will O

Well, since I have PCOS I get EWCM all cycle long so unfortunately seeing EWCM doesn't mean I'm fertile. But I take it as meaning that anyway and act on it.

Unfortunately my temp went up again today, I was really hoping it would keep going down.

We are covering our bases with BD though anyway just in case.

 

[IceQueen86]

Well, since I have PCOS I get EWCM all cycle long so unfortunately seeing EWCM doesn't mean I'm fertile. But I take it as meaning that anyway and act on it.

Unfortunately my temp went up again today, I was really hoping it would keep going down.

We are covering our bases with BD though anyway just in case.

Ahh then that's not gonna help you much FX that you will O soon!

 

[lamago]

Did you get random pains when using soy?

 

[NDTaber9211]

Besides af cramps I had no pains with soy

 

[lamago]

It's my first cycle and I'm getting so much ewcm and pains. Hope everything works out ok.

 

[minuet]

The soy seems to have dried up my EWCM. Because I have PCOS I get EWCM every single day, but not this cycle.
The two days marked on my chart were just once in the mornings, and nothing the rest of the day.
We've been BDing anyway since he starts chemo tomorrow, but with no EWCM making an appearance I'm thinking the soy affected it.

I'm hoping that just maaaaaybe it's finally happening today, even with negative OPKs. I was terrribly moody all yesterday, just grumpy/angry/sad/upset. And it wasn't just from everything going on with spouse, it was mood swings.
And today, suddenly, I'm having really tender breasts.
Apparently mood swings/emotional and tender breasts are ovulation signs.

Please let that be true!
Wednesday I'm hoping to do an ultrasound to see if anything is going on.

 

[IceQueen86]

It's my first cycle and I'm getting so much ewcm and pains. Hope everything works out ok.

Welcome and GL!

 

[minuet]

So nervous! No EWCM the past few days, but lowest temp yet this morning. So hoping it shoots high and stays high tomorrow!

How is everyone else doing on Soy?

 

[NDTaber9211]

I don't know if the soy did anything for me. I o'd the same day as usual, everything seemed the same. I am just sitting here in the 2ww waiting to start testing. My bbs are getting sore and my nips have been feeling weird. My LP is only 12 days so AF will be here soon so it could just be pms. I hate not knowing whats going on.

 

[minuet]

I'm sorry Nicole That tww has got to be rough! I hope those are good signs for you and not just stupid pms. *hug*