Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[Meli_H]

So nervous! No EWCM the past few days, but lowest temp yet this morning. So hoping it shoots high and stays high tomorrow!

How is everyone else doing on Soy?

Hi everyone,

So far soy has affected my temps. They have been much higher than they have ever been. Yesterday, 10dpo, i had such a terrible headache. Last time i had such a headache, it was when i was pg last year.
today is 11dpo. I tested this morning and bfn


Nichole,
hope those are good signs for u!

Minuet,
hope u catch the egg!

 

[minuet]

Meli Thanks, I hope there is an egg to catch!

And your chart looks terrific! I hope you get a BFP soon.

 

[Meli_H]

Meli Thanks, I hope there is an egg to catch!

And your chart looks terrific! I hope you get a BFP soon.

Thanks. Not hopeful cuz u would think that by 11dpo a line would come up, but nope.

My ovaries arent off the hook. Next time i will up the soy dosage. Take that, stupid ovaries

 

[topkittycat]

Hi ladies, dh and I are currently ttcing number 2 atm. Num 1 we ttc'd for 2 years. We have currently been ttcing for 9 months now. Im halfway threw a cycle atm *thinking* im on "o" day today, but if nothing comes of this cycle im looking at trying this soy that everyone is talking about.

Could someone give me the run down of what to look for at the herbalist and how to take it? I read somewhere that 50mg of soy is only equivalent to 25mg of clomid, so for it to even out you would need to take 100mg for 50mg?? Am I on the right path or going astray? Thanks for all advice tips and info in advance!!
And good luck to you all.

Ps I have pcos so im not sure if I ovulate and if I do , when.....

 

[IceQueen86]

FX for you Nicole and minuet!

Meli - your chart looks great, i have a feeling that you are going to get your bfp this cycle Wait few more days before you test again, maybe you don't have enough pregnancy hormone yet, plus your temps are super high and your chart looks nothing like your last cycle chart Sorry about your headache tho, i hate headaches If i remember right you said you are drinking raspberry leaf tea ..when in your cycle and how many tsp and cups do you drink in a day? I was researching it and i think i will add that to my new ttc plan. I think my uterine lining might be weak, cos of the spotting and i read it can raise your estrogen levels, which i need to O earlier.

Topkitty - welcome to soy thread! You are right about clomid and soy doses. That's what the women say. You have to take it in the beginning of your cycle: CD1-5, CD2-6, CD3-7 or CD5-9. If you take it earlier then you will have more eggs, if you take it later then you will have one more mature egg.
Many women start with small doses like 80mg a day and then increase the dose in the last days. I went with the bigger dose the first cycle, started with 160mg and last 2 days took 200mg which gave me a bad headache. Side effect from too high dose. This cycle the max i took was 160mg and i had no headaches. So you just have to test it yourself what doses are the best for you

AFM - ok i don't know now if higher dose of maca gave me these weird temps i had before, i lowered my maca dose and now my temps have been all nice - check out my chart. Still waiting to see some O signs

 

[Meli_H]

Ice,

Thanks for the pma, but I tested again this morning 12dpo and bfn

I really think these high temps are a result of the soy and not cuz of a bfp….not to mention I have not had any cramping, sore bb’s, nada! Just a horrendous headache on 10dpo and much less intense headache 11dpo.

I drink raspberry tea from af until o. I drink 1 cup each night, but it’s the strong stuff. I buy the herbs from Chinatown and brew it myself. When I get a chance, I’m going back to buy some nettle tea from them. I understand nettle tea is safe to drink throughout the whole cycle.

I’m planning to up my soy dosage next cycle. Is it safe to take pain meds for the resulting headaches?

I just went this morning to have blood drawn to check my thyoid levels because I think they are all messed up, and have scheduled an endometrial biopsy for next week to see if I have any polyps that could be causing my spotting during the luteal phase.

That’s weird about your temps. You’ve never had flat temps like those the last few days, have you?

Topkitty,

GL! I bought my soy isoflavones from Walmart. $6 for the bottle.

Nichole,

How are you doing?

Minuet,

How are you? Looks like your temps DID shoot up today!!?

 

[Mrs A]

I took 200mg soy isoflavones cd 2-6. This is my 2nd cycle, am currently waiting or af to show and am having bfn's even though af is due today.

 

[NDTaber9211]

I am feeling down and out . I just don't feel confident with this cycle anymore. AF is suppose to be here in 3 days and the only sign I have is my tender bbs. I usually get that right before O though. I hate feeling so down. I really thought this month was going to be my month.

 

[Meli_H]

I am feeling down and out . I just don't feel confident with this cycle anymore. AF is suppose to be here in 3 days and the only sign I have is my tender bbs. I usually get that right before O though. I hate feeling so down. I really thought this month was going to be my month.

I know what you mean....but I've just accepted the fact that this wasn't my month. It stinks because had I caught the egg, edd would have been 12/25!
sigh......

wait, did you say you have tender bbs but usually get that right before o? That's a promising sign, right??

 

[Meli_H]

I took 200mg soy isoflavones cd 2-6. This is my 2nd cycle, am currently waiting or af to snow and am having bfp's even though af is due today.

Did you say you got your bfp? If so, congrats!!

 

[NDTaber9211]

You are gettign bfp Mrs a?

Sucks this month isnt ours Meli. I am trying to hold out hope because we arent out until shows.

I have anovulatory problems so I am terrified I wont be able to try again for 2 1/2 months. If next month is anovulatory, the cycle alsts anywhere from 45-60 days and then I have another 19 days to wait for o. Ugh

 

[Meli_H]

You are gettign bfp Mrs a?

Sucks this month isnt ours Meli. I am trying to hold out hope because we arent out until shows.

I have anovulatory problems so I am terrified I wont be able to try again for 2 1/2 months. If next month is anovulatory, the cycle alsts anywhere from 45-60 days and then I have another 19 days to wait for o. Ugh

wait, did you say that right now you have tender bbs, but usually only get that right before o? That's a promising sign, right??!!!

Let's stay positive that you did catch the egg! your tender bb's sound promising!!

 

[IceQueen86]

Girls you are not out before AF shows. I'm still keeping my FX for you!

Meli - I want to brew it myself too. As for painkillers i took them when i got a headache from soy. But if you might be pregnant then take Tylenol, this had to be safe during the pregnancy. Do you usually get sore boobs and cramping? If so and you don't get it now can be a good sign. Everything that is different from normal cycles can be a good sign.
I had some flatter temps last cycle when i started taking 1/4 tsp maca like a week before O. I have to keep it up to see if this is the cause. I don't mind it tho, my whole cycle should be like that, then a little dip before o and then temp spike..that would be perfect

 

[NDTaber9211]

Crud did I say before o? I meant to write before AF. Tenders bbs is my number 1 pms sign usually.

 

[Mrs A]

No, I'm due af today, and all I'm getting are bfn and no af, although I do only have a 25 day cycle

 

[Meli_H]

Girls you are not out before AF shows. I'm still keeping my FX for you!

Meli - I want to brew it myself too. As for painkillers i took them when i got a headache from soy. But if you might be pregnant then take Tylenol, this had to be safe during the pregnancy. Do you usually get sore boobs and cramping? If so and you don't get it now can be a good sign. Everything that is different from normal cycles can be a good sign.
I had some flatter temps last cycle when i started taking 1/4 tsp maca like a week before O. I have to keep it up to see if this is the cause. I don't mind it tho, my whole cycle should be like that, then a little dip before o and then temp spike..that would be perfect

Ice,

the raspberry leaf tea is called Fu Pen Zi in chinese. Do you have a Chinatown where you live? I also want to buy safflower (Hong Hua) and apricot seed (Tao Reu) herbs for blood stasis/stagnant uterus. I'm realizing that I need to find my way to Chinatown stat lol!

The only thing different with my current cycle, and all previous cycles are my high temps. I usually don't get sore bbs, sometimes get cramps 2-3 days before af, but not always. I did get a horrible headache on CD10, but I'm thinking that maybe I didnt drink enough water that day and was dehydrated.

That sounds like a good plan, to test your theory and start taking the maca again and seeing if your temps level off again.

 

[Meli_H]

Crud did I say before o? I meant to write before AF. Tenders bbs is my number 1 pms sign usually.

Oh, I see.....

 

[Meli_H]

No, I'm due af today, and all I'm getting are bfn and no af, although I do only have a 25 day cycle

oh, sorry to hear that...hope af stays away!!

 

[minuet]

I am feeling down and out . I just don't feel confident with this cycle anymore. AF is suppose to be here in 3 days and the only sign I have is my tender bbs. I usually get that right before O though. I hate feeling so down. I really thought this month was going to be my month.

I'm sorry Stupid hormones. When we want symptoms they give us none, and when we have symptoms then we wonder what they mean!
That TWW can drive you crazy, but try not to give up yet.

 

[minuet]

Minuet,

How are you? Looks like your temps DID shoot up today!!?

I guess it is totally possible that the soy is giving you high temps since I've heard that clomid can do that for some ladies. BUT I still think you have an awesome chart and might get some good news soon! 12DPO is still very early as most ladies don't get BFPs until they are a week late!

Yes, my temp did go up, but it likes to do that to me a lot and shoot back down. It shot up CD11 too, and then dropped again. So I'm not hoping for much. I'll still be disappointed when I read that low temp in the morning though.