Struggling with female factor infertility

I also wanted to add, because I know we have ladies in this thread (yours truly included) with AMH issues: I did some research yesterday on the CoQ10 co-enzyme which is the one that is supposed to envigorate the eggs, improve quality etc. (I think L'Arginine also does that among other things). I found this article which I found extremely hopeful and wanted to share it:

https://www.hans.org/magazine/995/Slowing-the-Reproductive-Clock

Especially the part that reads:
Until now western reproductive medicine has insisted that a woman is born with a fixed number of eggs and that the sharp decline in the quality and quantity of eggs after age 35 is irreversible. However, new studies challenge the absoluteness of this view. A recent study from Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto on coenzyme-Q10 (Co-Q10) and egg quality suggests that, in fact, it may be possible to improve egg quality and slow down or even reverse the aging process.

In the study, scientists found that by injecting old, retired breeder mice with the antioxidant Co-Q10, they were able to stimulate more eggs to develop, and the genetic quality of these eggs--their youthfulness--resembled those of mice eggs in their reproductive prime. The offspring of these older mice, who were the equivalent of a 50-year human, were as healthy as those from younger mothers. It appeared that the Co-Q10 was actually able to rejuvenate the mitochondria (the cell's power source) and repair damage to the DNA.


Also, in the support group I attend with Julia I. there are several ladies with AMH issues (or low AMH-high FSH issues). Julia is very insistent on not dwelling on the numbers per se. She was telling us that, when she was trying to conceive at age 42, 20+ years ago, no doctor would take her with her FSH numbers which were considered too high (even though she brought them down to half, they still wouldn't take her for treatment because the mentality at the time was 'you're as good as your highest FSH'). AMH was not known yet. She's been following research developments since then and was telling us that nowadays doctors aren't as adamant about high FSH as they used to be, and that several studies have proven that there is hope even with a high FSH. So she was telling us that AMH could be the same. It only started being widely used as a marker 5-6 years ago, as of now serious research is lacking to show exactly what this hormone means about a woman's fertility, and that she wouldn't be surprised if the absolutedness of today's views on AMH is shaken further down the line by some new research. Just like it happened with the FSH absolutedness eventually. And I think this article I linked to proves exactly that - there is always hope :flower:
 
thanks for sharing your article! An hour ago I bought CoQ10 and DHEA to start taking! I'm hopeful that it will make a difference. I do O every month on my own but they don't seem to be great eggs because I can't get pregnant.
 
thanks for sharing your article! An hour ago I bought CoQ10 and DHEA to start taking! I'm hopeful that it will make a difference. I do O every month on my own but they don't seem to be great eggs because I can't get pregnant.

I think this is a good idea. You got nothing to lose anyway :winkwink:
I think I am the same. I ovulate on my own, but haven't seemed to produce a good enough egg that will be fertilized and stick, so far. I had the endo cyst in my right ovary (now removed) and it is possible that it may have compromised my egg quality on that ovary (that was also the ovary with the low follicle number), so hopefully I will be able to improve quality over time. Though I do have a seemingly perfect ovary (the left one), with no endo, normal follicle count etc. and it still hasn't happened. But oh well, I'm hopeful :flower:
Let us know how it goes.
 
I'm not sure I can thank the coq10 but I've been taking it (ubiquonol) 100mg 3x/day for the past 2 months. I stopped it Monday when I got my bfp. But my doc did suspect that I made crappy eggs...
 
Congratulations HtheW!!! What exciting news! :dance:
 
Hi Ladies,


It's pretty late but I wanted to post here to get subscribed to this thread.

I had endo and fibroids removed back in May after a failed hsg revealed I had blocked tubes. My amh is also very low .73 and I'm 34 in 3 weeks. I only read the first two and last page but I will definitely catch up on who everyone is.

At time I so feel so lonely in this journey.
 
Welcome NDurham12! :thumbup:

I had my second acupuncture session today - my acupuncturist was away on vacation this week, so I saw someone else. She was still very good. It felt really good and I was able to relax pretty well, which I'm happy about. The only thing I'm wondering about: she asked what part of the cycle I'm at, and I told her that I was expecting AF sometime between tomorrow and the weekend, unless I got pregnant this cycle (which I don't think so). So she put the heat lamp over my abdomen, presumably to help ease any PMS symptoms (the herbs are supposed to help with that too). As soon as I got home from the acu session, I had some light red bleeding (sorry for TMI). So I got a little pissed off, because I didn't want AF to come sooner that expected :wacko: and I wonder if that prompted it to start earlier. Ugh! We'll see if it was just that for today, or if it will come full flow later.
Last night (TMI alert again :blush:) hubby and I had some action :winkwink: and there were 2-3 teeny-tiny blood tinges afterwards after I wiped. So it might have been on her way anyway. Of course the herbs I take during the luteal phase are supposed to help with proper lining shedding, so I wonder if this is what I'm experiencing as the body is adjusting to the herbs. Then again, I can't help but wonder: since these herbs are designed for fertility and mimic the 4 parts of the cycle, aren't they supposed to keep the lining thick and strong in case conception has taken place?? Instead of actually facilitating lining shedding? And could they affect a possible pregnancy by bringing the opposite result? I know I'm supposed to discontinue use as soon as I find out I'm pregnant (whenever that is, if it happens), but what about the days between implantation and a missed period or a positive HPT? I'm too neurotic, aren't I? Lol :haha:
I need to ask my acupuncturist next week when I see her again...So many questions...
 
Welcome NDurham12! :thumbup:

I had my second acupuncture session today - my acupuncturist was away on vacation this week, so I saw someone else. She was still very good. It felt really good and I was able to relax pretty well, which I'm happy about. The only thing I'm wondering about: she asked what part of the cycle I'm at, and I told her that I was expecting AF sometime between tomorrow and the weekend, unless I got pregnant this cycle (which I don't think so). So she put the heat lamp over my abdomen, presumably to help ease any PMS symptoms (the herbs are supposed to help with that too). As soon as I got home from the acu session, I had some light red bleeding (sorry for TMI). So I got a little pissed off, because I didn't want AF to come sooner that expected :wacko: and I wonder if that prompted it to start earlier. Ugh! We'll see if it was just that for today, or if it will come full flow later.
Last night (TMI alert again :blush:) hubby and I had some action :winkwink: and there were 2-3 teeny-tiny blood tinges afterwards after I wiped. So it might have been on her way anyway. Of course the herbs I take during the luteal phase are supposed to help with proper lining shedding, so I wonder if this is what I'm experiencing as the body is adjusting to the herbs. Then again, I can't help but wonder: since these herbs are designed for fertility and mimic the 4 parts of the cycle, aren't they supposed to keep the lining thick and strong in case conception has taken place?? Instead of actually facilitating lining shedding? And could they affect a possible pregnancy by bringing the opposite result? I know I'm supposed to discontinue use as soon as I find out I'm pregnant (whenever that is, if it happens), but what about the days between implantation and a missed period or a positive HPT? I'm too neurotic, aren't I? Lol :haha:
I need to ask my acupuncturist next week when I see her again...So many questions...

You know I am going to try and get a groupon for an acupuncturist.

Herbs? What herbs? I'll go back and try and find more information if you already posted it.

I just got 400MG progesterone suppositories, but the nurse said to take them CD17, which is very bizarre. I will be doing more research!
 
NDurham12 - sorry, I never got a notification that you had responded :blush:. I am not working with an RE anymore (decided to stay away from fertility treatments, at least for the time being). Instead, I'm working with an acupuncturist/herbalist and I take herbs along with nutritional supplements to try and re-balance my hormones. I only started a week or two ago, so it remains to be seen whether anything will come out of it. Natural/traditional Chinese medicine usually stays away from prescribing straight hormones (they rather prescribe herbs that are supposed to boost specific hormones), but I have taken progesterone suppositories in the past. I wonder if what the nurse meant was for you to start taking the suppositories from CD17 onwards, as these are usually prescribed for the second part of the cycle.

Vent time: my AF has gone crazy :wacko:. I was expecting it sometime between Thursday and Saturday. Instead, all I have (since Wednesday) is brown spotting :wacko: but no period. I had some red bleeding Friday morning and thought I must have been starting my period (and immediately switched to the herbs that are supposed to be taken during menstruation), but to my astonishment, the bleeding subsided and went back to brown spotting later that day. I am not pregnant as far as I know (took a pregnancy test this morning and it was a clear negative, though if this continues I'll be taking another one in 2-3 days just to rule it out completely, though I don't think it's that). I've stopped the herbs and waiting for the real AF to show up (I contacted my acupuncturist and she agreed it was the right thing to do). I do have some cramping and very slightly sore boobs (typical AF symptoms for me), but no sign of it other than the brown discharge :growlmad: Also, I suck at BBT but I have a method to predict when AF will show up that has always worked for me in the past: I actually take my temperature every night at around the same time the week before AF. The night before AF shows up, there is always a temperature drop. Without fail, I've been getting AF within a day of seeing my temperature drop. This time it hasn't dropped yet, so I'll be surprised if I get it tomorrow. I do hope it shows up soon. I know these all sound like pregnancy symptoms, but I seriously doubt it is that. Plus the test I took was one of those early pregnancy strips that claim to be very sensitive, and it was a clear negative. I don't want to think it's the herbs that caused this mess, but I can't help wondering. I'll talk to the acupuncturist more at our Wednesday appointment, especially if AF is still awol and pregnancy is ruled out.
I can also think of a few other things that might have affected this cycle:
1) it was the first full cycle after my lap
2) I have made diet changes to include more endo friendly (or rather, anti-endo) foods and exclude problem foods as much as I can
3) I had A LOT of stress
All these could have contributed, alongside the herbs, but I'm still worried as to why this is happening. It's not unheard of for me to spot before AF, but never more than 3-4 days, and today marks the end of spotting day 5 (going on day 6) with still no AF in sight :growlmad:

Phew, vent over!! :cry:
 
No problem Christi.

I'm sorry AF is being so wishywashy. Either come or go...don't like the inbetween stage. It could be your hormones doing what the herbs are intended to do.

I'm interested to know how things go. I'm not at the point of doing acupuncture yet, as I've already spent a large amount on herbs and the like from my Naturopathy doctor.
 
You're AF sounds like it is doing exactly what mine did, and you know how that worked out. I just hate the limbo and know that you do too. I hope that she shows up soon!
 
Thanks NDurham - the herbs at this stage were supposed to actually help the lining shed etc. so it doesn't make much sense that they'd have the exact opposite effect :wacko: We'll see what happens. I wouldn't mind if this was my AF for this month (a wacky period every few years is not a big deal), the only weird thing is that my boobs are still sore, which always goes away after AF is here. I took a second pregnancy test this morning though and it's still negative. My acupuncturist said that the herbs can take 3-4 months to regulate a cycle, and that 'irregular bleeding' is not unheard of. Except this was when my AF was supposed to come. But I've stopped the herbs for now and will not be starting them again until I get a full AF.

If you're currently taking herbs and progesterone suppositories, be sure to ask your doctor if it's ok to take them together. I know most times they say not to mix herbs with hormones. I've only done acupuncture twice (this week will be my third session) and it's mostly been good to help me relax. I think it may be too early to see other changes.

Pirate- if you mean the horrible 'monster' AF you just had, I really hope the same doesn't happen to me :cry:. It's the last thing I need. I hate the limbo too :growlmad:
 
I absolutely hope you don't have to go through what I went through. I thought I was going to bleed to death (only a slight exaggeration). I meant toying with you with all of the spotting. There are few things worse than limbo!
 
I absolutely hope you don't have to go through what I went through. I thought I was going to bleed to death (only a slight exaggeration). I meant toying with you with all of the spotting. There are few things worse than limbo!

Very true about the limbo...
Luckily I have a busy day ahead, so I can get it out of my mind. I am desperate for AF to come though, so that I can get back on track :wacko:
Seeing as I have 2 negative 'early response' tests (taken a couple days after a 'missed period' when they are supposed to show even before a missed period), I don't think pregnancy is a realistic possibility. More like my hormones are out of wack :cry:
 

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