Trying before AF?

[xxemmyxx]

I've heard that zinc is good for sperm count, and have you tried Angus castus? It's good for regulating your cycle. I used royal jelly, and was pregnant the first time 3 months after using it, and 2 months after that again.

I just bought him wellman vitamins for fertility and I take pregnacare conception, I started taking agnus castus but when I ran out I never bought anymore, I need to get some more as I know it can take 3 months to have an affect. Never heard of royal jelly though...maybe I need to visit holland and Barrett!

 

[mummy2o]

I'm sorry to hear that emmy. I remember your post saying they didn't need to test his sperm, but I guess they were right to test him just in case. As you have said you got pregnant once before, you will do so again. You'll get that rainbow baby one day.

AFM had to go to the doctors twice to get bloods done. The first time the nurse was rubbish and gave up trying to find a vein! It was the only appointment in the 4 day slot they had. So they made me one this afternoon and she managed after 30 minutes and pricking me twice in different arms. I hate getting bloods done.

 

[xxemmyxx]

I'm sorry to hear that emmy. I remember your post saying they didn't need to test his sperm, but I guess they were right to test him just in case. As you have said you got pregnant once before, you will do so again. You'll get that rainbow baby one day.

AFM had to go to the doctors twice to get bloods done. The first time the nurse was rubbish and gave up trying to find a vein! It was the only appointment in the 4 day slot they had. So they made me one this afternoon and she managed after 30 minutes and pricking me twice in different arms. I hate getting bloods done.

We had to get the SA for them to refer us to fertility clinic and I assumed it was just me who was causing all the problems, OH has to get tested again cus apparently unless its low twice it's not conclusive, I guess he could of been having a bad day lol
Now we have the SA results they will refer us, going back on Friday to the GP to discuss the next steps, it's such a long process, it's taking forever!!

Why did you have bloods taken? I'm the same they can never find a vein and they waste my time coming and going on different days just to get some blood!
Seriously considering going private if we do need assisted conception, my dad said he would help us pay xx

 

[Starry Night]

What's royal jelly?

emmy - I'm sorry about your OH's low sperm count but at least you already have proof that it doesn't have to stop you from getting pregnant again. I hope you can get the help you need.

Nurses have a tough time finding veins in me too. When we were tracking my hcg after my latest loss it was always the same thing: poke, poke, swivelling the needle in my arm, poke and poke some more. My left arm is much better so I would just put it out but some nurses thought they knew best. It's even worse when I need an IV.

 

[Libbysmum]

I think Royal Jelly is the same as petroleum jelly?

 

[vietmamsie]

Thanks for the acupuncture tip.... I did it for months and never got my BFP's until I stopped. It did help to regulate my cycles.

As for Royal Jelly, I believe it's a form of bee pollen, but I might be wrong. I had the hubs on regular bee pollen because it's supposed to be good for fertility for both man and woman. Just be sure to check where you get it from as there can be chemicals in it.

 

[jennyb86uk]

It's what bees make to feed the queen bee so she can lay hundreds of good quality eggs, it pretty much makes sure that you ovulate and that the egg you release is a good quality one. I got it in tablet form from holland and barrett. It seemed to work for me.

 

[mummy2o]

Note to self, go to holland and barrett if this cycle is fruitless. Going to give it a good proper cycle before anything, if everything has just got back to normal I need to give it a chance right.

I got my bloods done for my irregular cycles. Once those results come in we're discussing the next steps. OH hasn't had to do a sample yet, maybe our area just does things differently, which wouldn't surprise me as all these west country folk like to do things in a very unique way at times.

 

[xxemmyxx]

Mummy2o everyone I speak to is doing things in a different order, it's so frustrating for me!! Now we have the sperm analysis they want him to repeat it, it took 2 and a half months to get the first sperm analysis appointment and the doctors refuse to even refer me to the fertility clinic until they have the second sperm analysis!!! I have been to the GP today shouting at them cus I am NOT waiting another 2 months just for a sperm analysis how ridiculous!! And there is no reason why they can't refer me now, the fertility clinic probably will have a long waiting list but that aside I know I need treatment for my ovulation problems so why can't they get that under way ASAP???? My oh already has low sperm count and (found out this today from dumb GP) borderline morphology and he is 37 time isn't exactly on his side and we both have never had a child so why are they wasting time, they know they have to refer us eventually so just get on with it!! And what really annoys m e is that I cold tell that GP I saw today more about fertility than he knew, so now I have another appt with another GP on Wednesday who specialises in fertility apparently and I am going to make a huuuuuuuge fuss, sick of this now!!
First baby's due date should have been on Monday 18th so that's probably not helping my mood...

 

[jennyb86uk]

Mummy2o everyone I speak to is doing things in a different order, it's so frustrating for me!! Now we have the sperm analysis they want him to repeat it, it took 2 and a half months to get the first sperm analysis appointment and the doctors refuse to even refer me to the fertility clinic until they have the second sperm analysis!!! I have been to the GP today shouting at them cus I am NOT waiting another 2 months just for a sperm analysis how ridiculous!! And there is no reason why they can't refer me now, the fertility clinic probably will have a long waiting list but that aside I know I need treatment for my ovulation problems so why can't they get that under way ASAP???? My oh already has low sperm count and (found out this today from dumb GP) borderline morphology and he is 37 time isn't exactly on his side and we both have never had a child so why are they wasting time, they know they have to refer us eventually so just get on with it!! And what really annoys m e is that I cold tell that GP I saw today more about fertility than he knew, so now I have another appt with another GP on Wednesday who specialises in fertility apparently and I am going to make a huuuuuuuge fuss, sick of this now!!
First baby's due date should have been on Monday 18th so that's probably not helping my mood...

Doctors are so stupid Emmy, It's like they don't see the emotion behind the problem, they just see it as another physical ailment thats not going to kill and they'll get around to at some point. It's just not fair.

 

[mummy2o]

Mummy2o everyone I speak to is doing things in a different order, it's so frustrating for me!! Now we have the sperm analysis they want him to repeat it, it took 2 and a half months to get the first sperm analysis appointment and the doctors refuse to even refer me to the fertility clinic until they have the second sperm analysis!!! I have been to the GP today shouting at them cus I am NOT waiting another 2 months just for a sperm analysis how ridiculous!! And there is no reason why they can't refer me now, the fertility clinic probably will have a long waiting list but that aside I know I need treatment for my ovulation problems so why can't they get that under way ASAP???? My oh already has low sperm count and (found out this today from dumb GP) borderline morphology and he is 37 time isn't exactly on his side and we both have never had a child so why are they wasting time, they know they have to refer us eventually so just get on with it!! And what really annoys m e is that I cold tell that GP I saw today more about fertility than he knew, so now I have another appt with another GP on Wednesday who specialises in fertility apparently and I am going to make a huuuuuuuge fuss, sick of this now!!
First baby's due date should have been on Monday 18th so that's probably not helping my mood...

Doctors are so stupid Emmy, It's like they don't see the emotion behind the problem, they just see it as another physical ailment thats not going to kill and they'll get around to at some point. It's just not fair.

My dad had an experience when he had cancer in his neck, his GP told him it was nothing to worry about. It was only when he went private (cover by his work) when they discover what it was. Shortly after that it all went quickly on the NHS. I think its the whole not enough resources to, to many patients.

 

[xxemmyxx]

Mummy2o everyone I speak to is doing things in a different order, it's so frustrating for me!! Now we have the sperm analysis they want him to repeat it, it took 2 and a half months to get the first sperm analysis appointment and the doctors refuse to even refer me to the fertility clinic until they have the second sperm analysis!!! I have been to the GP today shouting at them cus I am NOT waiting another 2 months just for a sperm analysis how ridiculous!! And there is no reason why they can't refer me now, the fertility clinic probably will have a long waiting list but that aside I know I need treatment for my ovulation problems so why can't they get that under way ASAP???? My oh already has low sperm count and (found out this today from dumb GP) borderline morphology and he is 37 time isn't exactly on his side and we both have never had a child so why are they wasting time, they know they have to refer us eventually so just get on with it!! And what really annoys m e is that I cold tell that GP I saw today more about fertility than he knew, so now I have another appt with another GP on Wednesday who specialises in fertility apparently and I am going to make a huuuuuuuge fuss, sick of this now!!
First baby's due date should have been on Monday 18th so that's probably not helping my mood...

Doctors are so stupid Emmy, It's like they don't see the emotion behind the problem, they just see it as another physical ailment thats not going to kill and they'll get around to at some point. It's just not fair.

My dad had an experience when he had cancer in his neck, his GP told him it was nothing to worry about. It was only when he went private (cover by his work) when they discover what it was. Shortly after that it all went quickly on the NHS. I think its the whole not enough resources to, to many patients.

Yeah true it's too overloaded...hope your dad is ok?

The GP should be considering how overloaded the system is and referring us immediately in that case! Why hang around?? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[vietmamsie]

emmy, sorry for your frustration... I know how it feels. Over here I have my own set of road blocks: Not being able to communicate since no one is a native English speaker and many of the doctors have such thick accents, it is very hard to understand them.

Feel you on knowing more than the doctors about fertility... If I had just listened to my heart and not the doctor then I would have never gotten my hopes up in the first place about the last pregnancy. I should have been more firm with her when she told me my dates were wrong since it was measuring behind.

 

[Starry Night]

Doctors can be a real pain. I find they never want to investigate why you're bleeding in 1st tri or why your hcg is low or why the baby is measuring behind. It's always "maybe you got your dates wrong". With my last pregnancy I was annoyed with my GP when he told me I had about 60% chance of miscarrying. But after the runaround I kept getting from the doctors and nurses at the ER I think from now on I'm going to be happy for any blunt honesty I can take.

 

[vietmamsie]

ok, so I remembered that aknqtpie and a few others has continued to have hcg flowing for a while after their miscarriages, so this morning I took a hpt and it was negative... nothing, zero, nada. Good sign? Not sure we're going to try this cycle as I haven't been temping, plus my hubs will be out of town for the next few days, but hoping I might O and things get back on track this cycle.

 

[Starry Night]

I'd say a negative was a good sign. It took me nearly 6 weeks to get a negative.

 

[flapjack10]

Thinking of you today Emmy

Xxx

 

[xxemmyxx]

ok, so I remembered that aknqtpie and a few others has continued to have hcg flowing for a while after their miscarriages, so this morning I took a hpt and it was negative... nothing, zero, nada. Good sign? Not sure we're going to try this cycle as I haven't been temping, plus my hubs will be out of town for the next few days, but hoping I might O and things get back on track this cycle.

I think that's a good sign! It took me just over 2 weeks to get a negative hpt after mc and the doctor said that you can ovulate as early as 2 weeks after you first start bleeding so it is possible, although a lot of cycles are a bit messed up and ovulation can be delayed.

I raided holland and Barrett on Saturday so I have a few new things to try whilst I wait for the doctors to pull their fingers out. Also got some coconut oil for my hair on recommendation from my hair dresser...I have gone blonde!

 

[xxemmyxx]

Thinking of you today Emmy

Xxx

Thank you! Very sweet that you remembered

It's half term so it's quite nice that I'm not at work today. It feels like a lifetime ago that I was pregnant I can't believe I still would of been now and about to give birth!

Luckily I have two lovely best friends and bridesmaids who came over yesterday and we did lots of wedding stuff to keep me busy! We went to a wedding fair and my maid of honour bought me a wedding planner and a snazzy pink pen with a big diamond on it. Then we had a lovely lunch at La Tasca and drank sangria and came home and made 210 salt sough hearts and decorated 25 jam jars as candle holders for the engagement party, it was such a lovely day

I did do a cheeky pregnancy test cus I'm still a psycho after all but it was a bfn. A weird thing happened last night though during sexy time, I had really sharp pain in the area where I would expect my left ovary to be, I have a cyst on my left ovary so I'm going to mention it to the GP on Wednesday. It really hurt!?

 

[vietmamsie]

Emmy: Glad you're holding up and keeping busy... I have no idea how I will handle each due date as they come and past, I hope I'll be pg by the time they start swinging by...

Good to hear about the negative pg test being a good sign. I took one the morning of our last ultrasound and it was darker than the test strip. Now, 17 days after medical abortion, it's totally clear, not even a squinter. After my first MC, I had a 50 day cycle with no ovulation, but after my second my cycle was only 38 days with a timely ovulation. Hoping for a similar outcome this cycle. I am ready to get this show on the road!

On a side note, feeling pretty lonely, DH is out of town for another few days/possible week and I feel sad. Glad I have tons of work and homework to keep me busy, but the house is awfully quiet..