TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[LilSluz]

Manuiti – Your Dr. sounds positively insane – LOVE it! Hope you’re chillaxing hard these days…

Twinks – Hi honey are you OK? I know easier said than done but I secretly hope you can pick yourself up & go for it, chickie! Even if you have to listen to the song from “Rocky” ever morning, or “Fighter” from Christina A., I hope you find that strength deep inside you & go Nike on us…

Dwrgi- Hey there, My Favorite Welshian! Gosh that appt is coming up so quickly! I LOVE the plan & am so glad you are going to test everything regardless! Are you doing both Level 1&2? Oh, I can’t wait – can you get your bloods now please? I couldn’t have come up with a better plan, darlin’. I’m so glad you took some time to think about it. Btw, how can you (& everyone else) not know what the ex looks like? That was one of my first tasks! ‘Course it was easy bc I came over one day in the very beginning & DH was burning her pictures in an illegal fire in the backyard (I’m better looking)

Kin – maybe you need to go see Manuiti’s Dr! Hope the book helps!

Nicker – OK, so COH – what exactly does it do that’s different? (we are all curious when there’s something new that comes across this thread – doesn’t seem to happen too often!)

Luv – GREAT post – you got everyone! Good luck w/the rental & moving! Also, I’m so glad you got answers! Yeah, PCOS & lack of ov will def result in BFN everytime! I take it you didn’t chart? Well, NOW, you can deal with it; it’s the “not knowing” part that you can’t possibly deal with bc you don’t know what to do about it! Great news - GL

LadyH – If you aren’t ov properly have you ever tried Clomid? Looked at yoru chart but doesn’t show anything since March 28? I hope you are feeling better & take a break if you have to – take some time to figure some things out (but please come back & say Hi every once in a while?)

HA – I know you have until 4/30 to wait so I hope you are taking this time to have a little fun & ? I’ll come catch up w/the journal after this...

Carole – only 1 month to go!!! I hate when media twists things too

Coast – one thing to watch for on Clomid. I just finally got a % - gives 30% of women hostile CM (or no CM). I dried up completely & didn’t give it a 2nd thought. I wasted 5 months of TTC like that. Pay attention to it – there are things you can def do to improve it!!! You can start off drinking GF juice & taking mucinex for 6-8 days before & during ov.. GL!

AFM – still sick & took the day off. Can hardly keep anything down, too. I am getting a little hopeful this cycle, tho. Even if this cycle isn’t my BFP, I feel like I am getting super close to finding what works for me. After looking at chart again, I had an implantation dip on Easter & that was well before sickness. That’s the first time my chart has ever shown one (?) (not that you need one, but...). And I’m completely embarrassed at the 100’s of bumps that I broke out with all over face/neck a few days back, but then again, could that also be due to estrogen surge? (I’m learning, here)

This was also 1st cycle w/major EWCM, so even if It’s a BFN, I think I’m on the right track with the GF juice & Mucinex during ov (Purple got her BFP the GF Juice month I believe) & the addition of the 5mg Folate for the MTHFR, as it “appears” that at the very least, maybe it “tried” to implant??? Tomorrow I will be 12DPO. Maybe I will test then… I’m just glad to see a couple of good signs (FINALLY) along this journey, like maybe I’m going in the right direction, at least? It’s Those Things That Make You Go Hmmmm…?

to anyone I missed & I hope you all have an awesome FRIDAY! TGIF! & to all!

 

[purplelou]

Lils - get better soon hun!! oh and dad is hanging in there, he had a scan yesterday to look at the size of the tumours and we are going to see his doctor and get the results on 23/04 so hopefully there is some good news! - thank you for asking

manu - Im crossing everything for you!

HA, Dwrgi - big huge squishy

Missy - it sounds lovely to make a plan to do things you love to do, and why shouldn't you!? itll make you feel loads better and be so good for you xx

Dashka and LadyH - just in case you are lurking - hope you ladies are ok

and good luck asry and DrS - when is testing day?? Im holding my breath for you

Carole - I am so glad that what is being reported is largely untrue, I was worried about you this morning listening to the radio

big loves to everyone else, almost the weekend!!

 

[purplelou]

Oh Lils - I just had a peek - your chart looks good!

 

[Butterfly67]

Blimey lil you do the most comprehensive replies

Well I don't have to catch a plane, just a train but it is hard enough to get away so that no one notices!

I'm really optimistic for you this month

 

[LilSluz]

Oh - for all of us ladies. Someone posted this on another thread & my jaw dropped. This lady took an AWFUL lot of time putting together all of the various supplements for all of the various issues, problems, ailments, etc. for which we LTTC'rs seem to be plagued. She even explains what each one is for & why you should take it. Warning - it's a lot, but maybe just start with looking at your own "known" issues (implant, EWCM, Ov, hormones, etc) & then add a little more if you think its needed?

For example, with my MTHFR (an OB nurse told me that they actually do call it Motherf***ker ) & taking all this wonderful 12x folate + Folgard, I had NO idea that tannins in tea (caf & decaf) can just nix out all the benefits of folic acid!!! I happened to find this link on my 2nd day on the special green tea concoction (for bronchitis), so I think I caught it pretty quickly & "changed my ways"

If interested, here goes:

https://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/fo...topic=226042.0

 

[LilSluz]

Thanks Butterfly & Purple! We'll see. I'm not getting my hopes up except that I am hopeful I'm at least on the right track now after 1yr 4 mos TTC?

Butterfly, just had a peak & yours is looking fab too!

 

[drsquid]

oy, so ive had major sweets cravings on this progesterone (even ended up eating straight turbinado sugar the other night cause i dont keep candy in my house). anyways someone brought in a huge sack of easter candy. wheee jellybeans for breakfast. already ate the handful i got for later (plus the breakfast handful). day 8 of 8 at work.. cant wait to sleep in tomorrow.. been going to bed at 9 and still exhausted when i try to get up for work at 6:45. i work next tuesday and that is it for the week. ive made all kinds of plans with friends so it should be fun. i need the break.

glad to see you all are well =)

 

[padbrat]

LOL thanks for the advice Lils and Purps.... I have temped before right at the start of the rollarcoaster.... but all my pregnancies have been kinda NTNP... in fact thinking back they have mostly been hangover pregnancies lol....

Aside from my ED this is the first one I will actually prep for... I always took the view that if it happens it happens... but now time aint on my side in any shape or form... so I will give it a go...

Also ladies my specialist told me that 5mg folic acid (on prescription only) has been proven to aid conception and I have to say it seemed to work for me... so tonight along with tea it will be pregnancare, aspirin, folic acid... and once I have ordered it CQ 10! YUMMY! LOL

Hope you feel better soon Lils!

Fingers crossed for all the super testers!!

 

[Nicker]

My prenatal is prescription only and contains 5mg of folic acid. Not sure why it is prescription only. In Canada folic acid isn't prescription. Maybe cause each pill contains 5 mg? I asked for the prescription because 1. It is covered on my drug plan and 2 iron and calcium should never be taken together as they compete for absorption. Most multi vitamins including prentals put them both in one tablet. The one I take had iron and some other stuff in the morning and calcium and folic acid for evening to maximize I abodorption of everything.

I have been taking 1 mg of folic acid daily for YEARS. I had to because I took methotrexate for years which strips the body of folic acid. I had to be on 4 mg I folic acid for 4 months after stopping methotrexate before ttc. I took methotrexate for Crohn's disease. My RE and my GI seem to disagree about the effect of methotrexate on egg quality. My RE days the once a week dose was too small and my RE says that he thinks it could be bad but no broad enough studies can prove it. My GI is always up on the latest research and always changes my treatment when new findings arise.

 

[purplelou]

Pad - to have a try - wilkinsons and superdrug sells C0q10 - and it's quite cheap, I got mine from there and started on a low dose and then built up gradually to make sure it suited me ok.

 

[Asryellah]

Eeeeeeek LilS!!! Good luck with testing tomorrow!!!! Eeek!!!!! I'm exited for you
I should wait a WEEK before testing, but I wont.


Happy weekend to you all !!!!!!!!!!!!!

afm, taking a glass of some (lot of) chockolate and laying on the coutch..yeah, chillin'

 

[purplelou]

DrS - have fab weekend - after that stretch at work you deserve it!!

 

[LilSluz]

Asry - I'm jealous! I'd love some & chocolate right now!!! (antibiotics) Enjoy!!!

Also ladies my specialist told me that 5mg folic acid (on prescription only) has been proven to aid conception and I have to say it seemed to work for me... so tonight along with tea it will be pregnancare, aspirin, folic acid... and once I have ordered it CQ 10! YUMMY! LOL

Hope you feel better soon Lils!

Pad - Thanks! That sounds like a lovely meal you have planned! Just be careful of the tannins in the tea - can wipe out the benefits of folic acid so you may want to do tea in the morning & folic acid at night (or vice versa). I'm not sure about straight folate tho (since its absorbed differently)? Here's what I found from an Alt Med site:

Green tea can decrease the absorption of iron, folic acid, and other nutrients, due to the tannins in them (also with black tea). It's often recommended that people do not drink much tea during meals, for that reason. 1-2 cups of green tea daily is probably not enough to significantly impair absorption, but to be safe, you could just drink it between meals. During pregnancy, the need for folic acid is increased in the 1st trimester, but again, 1-2 cups probably wouldn't decrease absorption, especially if drunk between meals, and folic acid levels should be ok if the diet is rich in folic acid with supplemental folic acid. The caffeine is not desirable during pregnancy, but it is much less than coffee or soda, so it's a better option than those. Green tea is safe even in high doses unless people are sensitive to caffeine, but a typical amount is 1-3 cups a day (even 3 cups a day is less caffeine than 1/2 cup coffee). I wouldn't suggest decaf teas, because the processing may be detrimental. But you can decrease the caffeine by reusing the tea leaves, which lowers the caffeine but increases the antioxidant content with each successive steeping.

For those of us w/definite folic acid absorption probs, or any others having implantation probs/not sure, this is really important to know... Just the timing of it can help...

 

[LilSluz]

Purple - FX for dad on 4/23!!!

 

[twinkle1975]

Asry - I'm jealous! I'd love some & chocolate right now!!! (antibiotics) Enjoy!!!

Also ladies my specialist told me that 5mg folic acid (on prescription only) has been proven to aid conception and I have to say it seemed to work for me... so tonight along with tea it will be pregnancare, aspirin, folic acid... and once I have ordered it CQ 10! YUMMY! LOL

Hope you feel better soon Lils!

Pad - Thanks! That sounds like a lovely meal you have planned! Just be careful of the tannins in the tea - can wipe out the benefits of folic acid so you may want to do tea in the morning & folic acid at night (or vice versa). I'm not sure about straight folate tho (since its absorbed differently)? Here's what I found from an Alt Med site:

Green tea can decrease the absorption of iron, folic acid, and other nutrients, due to the tannins in them (also with black tea). It's often recommended that people do not drink much tea during meals, for that reason. 1-2 cups of green tea daily is probably not enough to significantly impair absorption, but to be safe, you could just drink it between meals. During pregnancy, the need for folic acid is increased in the 1st trimester, but again, 1-2 cups probably wouldn't decrease absorption, especially if drunk between meals, and folic acid levels should be ok if the diet is rich in folic acid with supplemental folic acid. The caffeine is not desirable during pregnancy, but it is much less than coffee or soda, so it's a better option than those. Green tea is safe even in high doses unless people are sensitive to caffeine, but a typical amount is 1-3 cups a day (even 3 cups a day is less caffeine than 1/2 cup coffee). I wouldn't suggest decaf teas, because the processing may be detrimental. But you can decrease the caffeine by reusing the tea leaves, which lowers the caffeine but increases the antioxidant content with each successive steeping.

For those of us w/definite folic acid absorption probs, or any others having implantation probs/not sure, this is really important to know... Just the timing of it can help...

I might be wrong but I think she might have been using the word Tea to mean the evening meal - some of us English are odd like that!

 

[Dwrgi]

Hi Ladies. I woke up and have some bleeding. My temp is still high but I am still on progesterone. I go to get beta at 8:30 am.

Welcome CoastDreams!! This is a great thread!! Sorry about your experience.

Frolicky-I hope you are okay. Have they told you to take more progesterone if this happens? I know that this is what my clinic advises if this happens. FX, Axxx

 

[dashka]

Hi wonderful ladies...
I'm baaaaaaaaack..... I couldn't keep away too long - I missed you all... thanks for your kind words.... I need to get some time today to catch up on the last few days...

So until I have a chance to catch up just wanted to say hi to everyone and send big beautiful hugs your way!

Here is a little selfish post until then:

I am doing a little better emotionally (but not physically yet - went to the doctor and she thinks I have post nasal drip possibly caused by allergies on top of the bronchitis) I've never had allergies -but I guess anything is possible - nothing is blooming here yet -except for buds on trees. She said she didn't hear anything bad in my lungs so that's good - So why the hell was I up for 2.5 hrs coughing up my lungs last night??!)

I think part of the reason I got this sickness is my body rebelling – as to not wanting to be here at this job (I feel stuck at because I want to go on mat leave and get benefits etc... I made a promise to myself last year that if I wasn't pregnant by end of last year that I'd leave - guess what still here!) and also the promise I made to be preggers by my b-day next month…. Looks like I broke both promises…. And my body is getting me back! I've also been questioning my ability as a mother - (I know stupid right) as my AD has taken to slapping me in the face almost daily - I know she is only 3 but it's hard to take when you are doing everything you can for her...it brings down your confidence big time. All these things combined are the reasons for my being down... I don't want to complain about her -she is wonderful otherwise - but just soo difficult TTC when you are feeling doubts about your ability as a good mother. Sigh..

As for witch - she has not arrived yet!! I am on CD27 - this is unheard of for me - as last few years I've had 24-26 day max cycles. My whole life I had 28 day cycles and then a few years ago they got cut back to 24-26 days. Last month she came a day early as the coughing was so bad I'm sure it brought her on... I thought for sure the coughing would do the same this month. BUT There is no sign of her. I tested again this morning (with a cheap one-blue strip kind) and BFN.. I wasn't expecting to get BFP as I don't have any symptoms at all...no sore bbs, no bloating etc... I think the meds/sickness are screwing with my body. Maybe the steroids in the inhaler? I don't know... Dr. gave me a nasal spray for the post nasal thing - great it has steroid in it too.... argh...

So not sure what is going on as this is 14 DPO (possibly 13) and no sign of AF and no BFP either. Not sure if I should just keep changing my 'ticker' everyday? I'm all for having longer cycles -it's what I always wanted the last year or so...but not sure why no AF symptoms at all.

Sorry for the selfish post!
Now I'm going to try and catch up!

love you all!!
XOXO

 

[Dwrgi]

Dashka, I think we are all entitled to have a selfish post every now and again. This whole TTC business takes its toll and really gives very little back. From what I have read from your posts, you sound like an amazingly wonderful mother, and your love for your AD is clear. I have heard of a phenomenon called the Terrible Twos, and although she is three (!!) I wouldn't be at all suprised if she is just pushing the boundaries, trying to work out how far she can push you. It doesn't mean you're a bad mother, it just means that she is growing and developing and getting more and more curious about what she can and can't do! So sorry about the BFN, but I think it's a HUGE development that your cycles are nearing 28 days-I think that is worthy of a so I definitely think you are on the right track. I hope this inhaler clears up your allergies-typical that it contains steroids, but a little bit, surely, won't harm, if it means you can have a clear chest? Thinking of you, and sending HUGE

Lil-oooooh, I am soooo excited for you!!! I sooooooo hope that this is your month after everything that you have discovered with regards to the Mother F**ker! Yay girl, I am keeping everything crossed and so hope that you will have very good news for us, very soon!

Purple-hope your father is doing a bit better. I am sure that you are giving him all the love that he needs to get through, and your good news will have given him yet another boost! You sound like a marvellous daughter-I bet he is really proud of you! xxxx

Pad-well, it'll be 6am starts for you, my girl!!!! Good luck with all the pills-I think you can get the CoQs, sorry, CoQ10 from Holland & Barrett as part of their BOGOF, bit the deal may have changed. All I know is that they're blooming pricey, like everything else! Have you thought of IVF with gender selection? Not sure if you can have this in the UK??? Been reading too much Heats and Hellos, probably. Hope you're okay, and glad to have you back, and raring to go too! xxx

Carole-big

Asry-HUGE and lots of good luck to you too on testing. I don't know how anybody can NOT test early. I've heard of some crazy people who actually test a day later than their OTD if they have plans etc. and don't want to be upset. Your chillin on the couch sounds fab. Must say that chocolate has become my staple diet for the past two weeks. Think I'm comfort eating. It's time to wrestly the chocolate from me though, as my pyjamas split last night!! Have a great weekend hun! xx

Butterfly-I am so excited for you and soooooooo hope that you caught that little eggy! You so deserve it, after what you've been through! Am keeping all my fingers and toes crossed, just for you!

Dr S-hope those are good symptoms! FX for you!

Missy T and HA-big

Luv-perversely, I am so glad that they found out what the problem is, as this means they can address it! And it must be a huge relief for your DH to know that it wasn't just his , although I think that sounds a bit odd. Didn't mean it that way, but I know my OH was v upset when his swimmers were treading water and nothing else. I know of people on anotherf thread with your issue who have got PG so I am very hopeful for you, hang on in there!

Lady H-

Hello Newbies-I too have heard that Clomid can be hostile to mucus, so please keep an eye on this. Good luck to you all-I hope you get a lot of support from this thread! xxx

Man-I love your RE, and he is spot on. What does that test mean when you produced fab eggs, as did Missy as did I? It's the quality of the eggs that matter and nothing else. As a footnote, my clinic have now changed their policy and aren't stimming women for max eggs, but want all women to get around 6-8 eggs, as, no matter how many eggs you produce, you will have the same amount of good eggs. For example, if you stimms and have 8 eggs, four are 'good'; for the same person, if she produced 14 eggs, the likelihood is that there would only be four good eggs too. Hope you're hanging on in there and taking it easy. You seem quite cheery! GL to you hun, Axxxx

Twinks-I want to see this picture too, so I am going to stalk you again! Hope you're okay hun? Have been thinking about you loads. Lots of love and hugs, Axxx

Where's Ipen got to then?? Yooo hoo, come out to play please!

Love to you all, and I hope you all have a great weekend, Axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Dwrgi]

Forgot to ask, I'm seeing my doc next week and will ask about folic acid, but can I just take twelve or so 400ui of folic acid to make it up to 5 mg?? I may be in danger of rattling mind........ rattle rattle rattle.......

 

[twinkle1975]

I'm one of the weird ones - I've only tested 3 times in the last 2 years!

Dash - I've had the post nasal drip thingy - it's yuck! I've also totally missed an AF when I've been on steroids.

Dwrgi - all stalkers welcome!!