TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[purplelou]

Dwrgi - big and ...just because

Dashka - It sounds so difficult to arrange everything!! do you have a sympathetic work?? could you just say you have medical "appointments" ?? big I hope you get to see someone soon xx

DrS - I am glad you are having such a nice time at home, but so sorry about your friend passing away

Frols - happy 11 weeks

big loves to asry and manu

Chicken - this thread and site are a complete lifesaver!! I too would agree, I would have lost my sanity a long time ago without the ladies here xx

Nessaw - sorry about your Boyf's job - its a common story isn't it, but so blinking hard!!

greek porn - sorry I cant help with the progeterone question, but if the nurse was happy, then that's what Id worry about

Butterfly, if you caugt the eggy this time and you think you were a bit early, its more likely to be a girl - by Lils and Pad's research!

Pad - when you move do you get help or have to do it all by yourselves?? are you all ready for Florida?? I would love to go!! have a fab time

Lils - big loves chick, how are you doing??

Honeybee - Im very impressed!! you have turned something very difficult into a positive with your work!! how wonderful !

Agape - that's fab that the metformin worked for you, now hopefully next cycle you can catch that eggy!

LadyH - fingers for you chick in the dreaded tww!!

and big for everyone Ive not mentioned, hope you are all ok??

afm - nothing much to report - still got a bit of a wonky eye! - its weird, my pupils are 2 different sizes, Ive not noticed it before but one of the doctors at work saw it the other night. Im well in myself though so it's likely to be one those (freaky) things. but I am going for my eye test tomorrow so itll be checked then.

 

[purplelou]

Girls, think I'm going to buy the three month package for FF. See how I go with it! It will also take me through the summer IMSI.....

Love to you all!! Much colder today, isn't it, UK girls???!!

Lils, especially HUGE hugs to you,

Axxxxxxxxxxxx

Dwrgi - I think the 3 month package with FF is quite good, you get a nice easy layout with colours (Im so sad ....I LOVE the colours ) but it does make it easy to follow, plus you can search other charts - which is a time sucking hobby and add in all the widgets and gizmos

 

[Dwrgi]

Dwrgi - big and ...just because

Dashka - It sounds so difficult to arrange everything!! do you have a sympathetic work?? could you just say you have medical "appointments" ?? big I hope you get to see someone soon xx

DrS - I am glad you are having such a nice time at home, but so sorry about your friend passing away

Frols - happy 11 weeks

big loves to asry and manu

Chicken - this thread and site are a complete lifesaver!! I too would agree, I would have lost my sanity a long time ago without the ladies here xx

Nessaw - sorry about your Boyf's job - its a common story isn't it, but so blinking hard!!

greek porn - sorry I cant help with the progeterone question, but if the nurse was happy, then that's what Id worry about

Butterfly, if you caugt the eggy this time and you think you were a bit early, its more likely to be a girl - by Lils and Pad's research!

Pad - when you move do you get help or have to do it all by yourselves?? are you all ready for Florida?? I would love to go!! have a fab time

Lils - big loves chick, how are you doing??

Honeybee - Im very impressed!! you have turned something very difficult into a positive with your work!! how wonderful !

Agape - that's fab that the metformin worked for you, now hopefully next cycle you can catch that eggy!

LadyH - fingers for you chick in the dreaded tww!!

and big for everyone Ive not mentioned, hope you are all ok??

afm - nothing much to report - still got a bit of a wonky eye! - its weird, my pupils are 2 different sizes, Ive not noticed it before but one of the doctors at work saw it the other night. Im well in myself though so it's likely to be one those (freaky) things. but I am going for my eye test tomorrow so itll be checked then.

Purple-you amaze me, as you are always so kind and thoughtful!!! You are a saint!!! The BnB Saint!! How strange about your eye-is it to do with being PG, or is it something you've always had?? Am sure, if it was a problem, it would have caused issues for you before. That's a perk of working with doctors, I suppose! Hope you get it sorted soon!!!

BIg to you!!

 

[purplelou]

oh and HTJ - honesty - don't rely on temping to give you any clues about pregnancy or not - the only definite is a pregnancy test - I have looked through loads and loads of charts and all are very different, and implantation dips etc etc often dont show up (I never had any signs at all) Ill just keep my fingers crossed for you chick xxx

 

[purplelou]

aww Dwrgi - you make me blush. I really do love all you guys!! I just can't stay away - that is until you ALL have that BFP

my eye thing - well Iv never noticed it and nor has DH and it's quite noticable at moment and it looks completely weird!!!! like a glass eye or something - I could scare small children with it but it's likely to be "one of those things" and won't need anything doing about it, ne of the doctors told me something heat and bright light to do it. nothing to do with pregnancy though, so you can all relax

 

[Dwrgi]

Thanks Purps, we cross posted, I think. Have got quite addicted to it, and if I hadn't been using it this month, then I wouldn't have found out (from Butterfly and Lils) that I was due to ovulate later than normal. I wonder if they come with the package??????

I also found a list of the most reliable HPT-First Response is up there with 95% accuracy; poor Tesco only managed a 70 odd%! Which figures, as when I did get preggers in 2009 (which then mcarried), it was a Tesco hpt that I first used which said negative. Pah, Tesco. Waste of space!!!!

I sound like such a geek! Love to you hun!!

 

[purplelou]

you are so not a geek - but that site is addictive!!

big loves xx

ps wouldn't it be great is lils and butterfly wre part of the package - actually thats a good idea for a business - interpreting charts online for a small fee you ladies could be gazillion-aires!

 

[LilSluz]

AFM-still no AF and temps still high but still a this morning. I think the cow bag witch (b)itch will arrive tomorrow, considering my LP is generally 14 days, and I Oed on CD19. Guess I feel a bit down about it all, as I'd come to the stage where I felt fairly sanguine about everything, after all the disappointments I've had. Now, after seeing dips and high temps, I thought this could be my miracle, and got my hopes up again, and am back where I was months ago. It's a very cruel game, and I hate my body that I can't produce good eggs, (or there are immunological factors. IDK, I read somewhere that if your Level 1 tests come back fine, it's unlikely that Level
2s will highlight anything either).

I'm going to reveal something that may upset some of you, but I fell pregnant naturally ten years ago, when I lived with my ex-partner and I'd taken a break from BCP. I was off the pill for two months and it was a complete accident. I was about to retrain and go back to college, and also I realised that I wanted to leave my ex. I felt I had no choice but to have an abortion, and I did, and it was awful, so upsetting, although it was VERY VERY early on, but still. I remember my ex saying that he was sad as he felt it was his 'last chance' to be a dad' and I secretly and selfishly thought that wouldn't be the case for me, as I could still conceive into my 40s, right??? I knew I was doing the right thing then, but from what I have been through over the last four years, I do wonder if I did the right thing now. I feel like I'm being punished for what I did, and I feel like I'm being punished for staying with somebody that I didn't love for as long as I did, and so wasting all those fertile years. Life is too short to wait and you don't often get second chances, do you? This is how I feel now. Just really really sad. It's all bumbollo* really.

I hope I haven't upset anybody with the A word.

Anyway, love to you all,
Axxxx

Dwrgi - I understand how you could think that you are being punished. I feel the same way - perhaps I am being punished for that thing I did or this thing OR maybe it was...Ohhhh, THAT?! You are not being punished, honey. And you really did make the best decision you could at the time. Can you imagine being forever conjoined with shitty ex & not having gotten your education, etc so that you can help/teach people like the wonderful person you are today? I know it had to be hard to come on here & admit that, but I applaud you for it because perhaps it was something you have been needing to get off your chest for a really long time. And perhaps it was something that was eating away at you without you even realizing it, but by bit. Maybe you can heal just a little more now & it won't be this huge secret weighing you down?

Also, I like what (I think it was) GreekPorn? said. Not that I ever wish infertility on any of us - ever, ever, ever. But, just "perhaps" there were so many lost & scared women who were +35 TTC #1 who needed a kind, courageous & thoughtful warrior as yourself to help them along? I can't even imagine how many women you have helped since you have been here!!! I can't imagine how many women are pregnant or have babies now bc of you taking time out of your schedule to patiently answer their questions as best as you could. Honey, if it wasn't for you posting the Immunes Tests, I would not have been able to demand them as early on as I did & hence, would not even be able to get pregs at all right now. I would just clot up around my egg & nothing would ever be able to penetrate it. Sure, I may need more aggressive treatment but I am SO much closer now than I was 4 months ago!!!

So, I'm not glad that you have dealt with this for so long, but I am glad that when I came on, you were still here. I guess what I'm saying is that perhaps there was some reason behind your "delayed fertility" that's not to punish you but that uses you in incredible ways that you haven't really realized. But, of course, I don't want to ever lose you, but I am hoping that if that was your calling, maybe it is time for someone else to come along & do that job, as you have put your time in for so long now. So I hope & pray with all my heart that maybe you have worked past some things you needed to work on & have helped who you needed to help & now you can move into a whole new wonderful world that involves a big fat BFP & a

Sending you the hugest & Florida sunshine (& even Flo Rida sunshine) today!!!

Luvs,
Lils

P.S. - I have been doing some research into Level 2's. I am finding there are plenty of people of have Level 2 Immune issues who did not have Level 1 issues! I guess you start at Level 1's bc the tests are easier/cheaper, etc., but Level 2's go much deeper & often (it appears) have nothing to do with Level 1's??? I realize this is just another thread & not a scientific study or anything, but there is a bunch of info on Immunes going back & forth on this thread, if interested... https://www.fertilityzone.co.uk/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=39984 (sorry, just started researching, so don't have much on it yet)

 

[LilSluz]

So, my chart "looks good" with the consistent high temps, right? My question is this... Wouldn't my temps stay up like this even if I wasn't TTC? At 9 DPO, wouldn't my temp stay up during LP regardless, assuming a "normal" cycle? Without a difinitative triphasic pattern, don't the high temps pretty much just indicate that my body is doing what it should be doing after ovulation re: progesterone etc?

I'm trying desperately not to get my hopes up, but at the same time trying not to lose hope all together, which I'm finding is a VERY DIFFICULT balance to achieve, let alone to maintain. My temps are promising, but I have had an ugly skin breakout the past few days. Even my scalp is breaking out, for crying out loud! If I shaved my head I'm pretty sure my head would look like the surface of the moon and you'd find Neil Armstrong running around there somewhere. Timing is right on with AF. Breakouts are the only PMS I have ever suffered so I have nothing else to compare it to.

I have no pregnancy symptoms. None at all. Zip. Zero. Zilch. No implantation dip. No spotting, which I know only happens some of the time. No triphasic pattern. I'm a little tired, but I have been reducing my melatonin to get off of it all together in prep for pregnancy so my sleep patterns are off some.

I hate this. Why can't nature make us with a built-in pregnancy test? Two blue lines on your abdomen means your pregnant ? Sounds good to me! All of this uncertainty is going to drive me to drink. Water. It's gonna drive me to drink water. Dang. Even THAT sucks.



Thoughts?

Oh honey, yes your temps would stay up due to progesterone whether pregs or not. But what we hope for is that they stay up/go up past 14 DPO. But, everyone is sooooo different! As far as implant dips you can't rely on them bc even FF says that only 23% of preg women get them & I think 11%? non-preggers get them too. Please don't get down about your chart temps being the same no matter what as we are all so unique it is very difficult to tell anything from them - espec with only the one chart vs seeing all your past charts & trying to tell if something is different that cycle (yet, we still try to interpret... whatever shall we do with ourselves???!!!).

Also, there are tons of women that don't get any symptoms & some never during their whole pregnancy. Then there are some who get them the day they implant, or even before (estrogen surge - pimples). Which brings me to the topic of break-outs. I don't know if you normally do this, but I just wanted to let you know that it "can be" in itself a symptom. That was one of my symptoms early on. I broke out both pregs between 6DPO - 9DPO. I knew it was not AF bc I didn't usually break out from that until 13DPO+. I think it has something to do with an estrogen surge. The one before this last one, I had hundreds of bumps all over my forehead, down my face & down both sides of my neck!!! I looked like I had a disease or something & refused to go anywhere!!! It was horrible. So, don't get down about that one either! Keep the faith sister!!!

I am with you, I wish our nipples would turn green or something to show we are pregs (I've always said that on 2WW thread!). As far as the melatonin, not to alarm you bc its way early to worry about, but I had previously done research on it being an insomniac myself, so perhaps you can try to switch to Tyl PM if you can? You can take Tyl PM even throughout pregnancy when needed as it is a Class B. It is really funny how something naturally found in your body may not be good during pregs/TTC, but something unnatural is perfectly fine? Its those types of things that drive can drive us nuts as there seems to be no rhyme or reason to it (well, just add that to the long list of what can drive a woman mad during TTC...)

I suppose we all say your chart looks great bc at least it appears to be showing that your progesterone is up at a nice high #. Some people have prog deficiencies, so their temps may stay near cover more. Big to you & please do not lose hope!!!

 

[LilSluz]

I have flipped back and forth since yesterday…. One minute I’m excited about moving forward and the next I think – “what am I crazy???? Will the doc laugh at me because I only want to do IUI with meds and not IVF? If it’s an immune thing then IUI won’t help I don’t think…… How can I manage this?? How will I be able to get to the clinic early mornings –be there for 6:30am and what will I do with AD?? “(–as DH leaves for work at 3:45am).. how will I hide it from work – as I hear you can spend 2 hrs at the clinic in the morning waiting for your turn for monitoring…. Then I get really sad/angry because I think it’s so unfair how we ladies have to worry about all this shit when other women can just get preggers at the drop of a hat!

I don’t know but somehow I have to stop worrying about all the details because that is how I usually talk myself out of things. And I’m so good at that. So we’ll see what happens – maybe while I’m waiting for the doctor that I really want … if another calls me first within the 6 months -I may just try to get a little testing done through them… I don’t know – all I know is that I feel like time is running out…. But giving up - no not yet - there is a hole inside me right now when I think that I'll never carry a child inside me, and sometimes I feel like I've jipped DH.

Sorry for my really long rant!!!
xoxo

(You guys are forcing me to crawl out of my hole, now bc I can't see all of this hurting & pain & not say anything...)

Dashka, you rant away honey! Rant, cuss, scream, cry & break something if you have to (just make sure its cheap & nobody is around!). This TTC biz is not for the faint-hearted, I tell you.

I like your plan - get your 6 month appt (hopefully sooner) w/sis's Dr, but put in all 3 of those referrals too! Chances are one of those referrals will come in first & you never know - they may end up being a godsend! Or maybe they suck, but they'll order your tests & get them going so that when you do get to 6-month appt, you are ready & raring to go with all of your results already in hand! And heck, see a couple of Dr's before sis's Dr to get some diff perspectives, even. Some Dr's you can just feel that "click" like they are "the one", while others turn you completely off, so you never know. Also, some are more aggressive than others, and some you wonder how they got thru med school, so its always best to have a few to pick from anyway. Shit, go to ALL of them if you have to! But I would pursue this full-steam ahead if you have it in you so like Dwrgi says, you never have any regrets about it later or have that nagging "what-if" haunt you for the rest of your life (freakin hate that one). And of course at the end of it, I am hoping that you walk away with a little Dashka?! But, you have to do what you are comfortable doing at the same time.

As far as timing of appts & AD, you can cross that bridge when you get there. If you do testing first, or even if not, your appt might be end of summer/early Fall anyway so maybe at that time you will be ready to tell MIL? Or like Purps said, you can tell work you have a medical issue, which is not lying bc this is a medical issue, and you will be coming in later on certain days? Whatever it ends up being, it is eerie how when you get to that point, often things end up just falling into place for you? You never know what awaits you honey . But if you don't take those first steps, you may never know?

And I am so glad that you are not giving up yet!!! I won't let you. Don't think I won't hop on a plane & fly to Toronto & knock on every door looking for "Dashka" if you do! You have so much support here, honey & you just rant anytime you want & don't apologize for it!!! It makes me so sad to see you hurting .

Sending big fat & from sunny Florida to you to hopefully try & brighten up your day

Luvs,
Lils

(going back into hole now...)

 

[grkprn]

Hi ladies - I just got my 8DPO progesterone results back and they were 12.4 ng/mL. I spoke with the RN and she said that they like to see the levels above 10, so everything looks good. Only question---I've heard that some docs like to see the levels above 20 ng/mL. What has everyone else heard?

Well I looked back at my day 21 bloods and it said Progestogen: 45 (normal 20-80) - but then is progestogen the same as progesterone or is it something different? Also I guess the US and Uk can have different measurements like in some other stuff

Butterfly - Nevermind better to early at least you can have another go

Honeybee - Glad the witch is being kinder on you

HTJ - Sorry I have no idea but hugs to you

Hugs to everyone I didn't get a chance to talk to

No more goes chicken, I just get the one shot as i have to schedule a meet with the ex

Did get a + OPK this evening so think I can count myself in for this month although not perfect timing

Thanks! I looked it up and progestogen and progesterone are pretty much the same thing. I suppose the number can vary from lady to lady, I was just hoping it would be higher, since I was on Clomid this month. I was 9.7 on a non-medicated cycle. Oh well -- I'll look at the positive...it's better than last time!!

 

[HitTheJackpot]

Thanks to each and every one of you for all the support re: my temping questions and partial breakdown Guess we all have those sometimes, eh? Prolly to be expected in the TWW

Froliky - Hearing of your experiences helped so much! Thank you~!

Dwrgi - Can't agree more with everyone has already said... I don't believe that any universe/higher power/god/source etc would punish us for making the choices that were best for us at the time. We do the best we can with what we have and that's all we can do! You are such a wonderfully supportive person and I have already learned so much from you! I have found much comfort in your words and have gained much knowledge from you. THANK YOU!!

Also, re: FF 3 month...I have that too. Signed up for it about two weeks ago when they offered it to me at 1/2 price, and I'm glad I did it. Hopefully we'll all get to move on to the pregnancy tracker sooner than later! And if Lils and BF come with the package, I'll pay DOUBLE!

Honeybee - What an amazing thing you have done with your experiences! You have so much to be proud of!

Chicken - How goes the TWW dear? Are you driving yourself crazy? Then STOP IT!

Dash - Yep, the horses are mine. They have always been a passion, but I wasn't able to get involved with them until 5 years ago and bought my 1st one 4 years ago. He was an orphan, pulled from his mother's side less than 36 hours after birth, a mutt of the horse world (and a by-product of the horse racing industry...google Nurse Mare Foals and get some tissues ), and was slated to go to slaughter The organization I was working with rescued him at 3 days old and I fell instantly in love. (Named him Mojito ... Mojo for short) So I went from very little horse experience to owning a newborn foal that needed constant care. Talk about throwing yourself into the fray! - I tried to attach a picture of him... hope it works.

I live in the suburbs, so they are on a friend's property about 20 minutes away, but I do see them almost daily. This TTC business is a little rough because I can't be in the saddle at all from the time I take the trigger shot until I af comes again. Too risky. Then, once pregnant, I won't go in the paddock with them at all... lest I be kicked. Last year, when I was training him, he took offwhen he was spooked by a stick (a scary horse-eating stick, of course)... at a dead run...he turned the corner at the paddock, but I didn't. Broke my hip, pelvis and my shoulder blade, had a major concussion (was wearing my helmet which cracked all the way through... and saved my life), and more nasty bruises/scrapes/scratches/contusions etc than I can even remember. Took months to heal from that one! Oh gosh, look at me. You got me talking about my horses and I'm going on and on... sorry Back to TTC~!

Asry - Thanks so much for the info! I appreciate every little bit I can get!

Purps - So weird re: your eye! Will be interested to hear what the doc says! I want to thank you for always being so supportive and positive to me and to all the ladies here. Your experience and strength continues to inspire me! And, I have indeed been chart-surfing which has been a help, if not a time waster

Lils - Wow! What can I say! You are such a fountain of knowledge!! I appreciate you crawling out of your hole to help I hope you can come out and stay soon... but you take your time. All the time in the world if that's what you need! You can always be counted on for information, support, personal experiences, kind words, honesty ... you amaze me! Truly! I was glad to know that I'm not the only one suffering from the acne (well, you know what I mean ) . And I have to say, it did seem to start at 6dpo, which is indeed early for me I think... and it seems to be getting better now. The pimples on my scalp and on my chest are out of the ordinary, too. I can't rule out that being the result of the nasty heat here over the weekend, but your experience gives me hope! (you're good at that, ya know?)

Re: melatonin - I am down to 1 per night from 4 per night ... One of the docs at my fertility clinic said that Melatonin is safe in pregnancy, but I wasn't so sure so just last week I did my own research as you did, and came up with the same conclusion... I need to stop using it. Tried cold turkey, but just stared at the ceiling for hours... so now weaning off of it. I can't take Tylenol PM. I have a touch of Restless Leg Syndrome and Tylenol PM just sets that off in a BIG way and my legs literally go into convulsions... it's not fun, so I'll avoid that NOT looking forward to the RLS during pregnancy! ACK!

to all of the other ladies out there!

AFM- Everyone else is traveling, so I'm the only one in the office today, so you would think I'd get SOOO much done... but NOOOO. I am SUPER tired and just want to close my eyes! Not to mention the crew working on the roof! It sounds like they are having a full-blown powwow up there! I have no doubt one of them is going to come through the roof and end up either on my desk or in my lap! Although... Hmm... wonder if I could ask him for some sperm?

10dpo today... planning to test on Sunday so DP and I can be together all day regardless of results. Would hate to test on a weekday morning and have to come right to work. Still no symptoms, but thanks to all of you wonderful women, I'm not as worried about that! (Though I have to admit, my left boob is a bit sore on the side... like it gets when I'm O'ing, though maybe it's just sore from me pushing on it eighteen times per day checking for soreness! )

Holy novel, Batman! Sorry for the long post! Sheesh!

and all around!

 

[purplelou]

I know nothing about horses....but Mojo looks completely beautiful! what a gorgeous colour and pattern on his fur - do horses have fur???

 

[chickenchaser]

Hi Ladies Just a quick one to offer hugs to those that are having a hard time at the moment and hugs to those who aren't but I can't leave you out.

HYJ - You know me and main me laugh so much

 

[HitTheJackpot]

Thanks, Purps! I'm a proud mama to him His pattern is called Dapple Gray. He was born a bright brick red and stayed red until about a year old, if you can believe it! Well, horses have hair, not fur... but close enough

Chicken - I'm happy to oblige with the laughter anytime! It's good for the soul - and for making those around you wonder what you're up to

I came home early to mow the lawn before the round of storms tonight - must have been caused by that powwow on the roof - but realized that I can't use the mower as I boogered up my shoulder, and the edger is too heavy to carry with the shoulder troubles too. Sooo, as much as she HATES doing the lawn, DP is going to HAVE to do it this time! She's just lucky that I won't be heavily pregnant during the summer months if it takes this time!

Storms also mean that the horses have to come into the barn, so maybe we'll divide and conquer. Mowing in the heat can't be good for me anyways, right?

 

[Dwrgi]

Mojo is super beautiful! Sounds like a really nasty accident you had last year. Glad you fully recovered. Is that you holding on to him???? Give him a big kiss from me!!

Lils-you are wonderful and big smackaroonie to you!!

Love to everybody!

xxxxxx

 

[dashka]

Hi ladies,

THANK YOU sooooo much for all your support... Gosh I love you guys... I am feeling much better today.... it helped to get my frustrations out and put in writing all the questions that have been going through my head 24/7!! I am an over-analyzer (that is part of my job is to make sure all 't's are crossed and i's dotted IYNWIM)... I often talk myself out of things because I over analyze things - but I guess it's better to be prepared...

Actually the 3 docs I'm getting referrals for include the doc my sister went to for so many years (and now has 2 kids) One of the doc's my MD says she put a referral for me in January - but it's kind of strange because when she asked me in Jan. if I wanted one I said I wasn't sure....(I think she did anyway) so maybe I'll get that one first??? We'll see what happens - and I'm sure if I need to I can ask my parents if they can take AD the night before or something....(I'm more worried about the daily monitoring so that might be a lot of sleepovers?) and if MIL is back then maybe I will have to tell her - but it is going to be so awkward IYKWIM !!!

Yeah I've come to realize that a lot of these docs are pretty tell it like it is and don't have a lot of bed-side manner.... but I don't care at this point -if they can get me preggers (and fast) then I'll see them.... they just have to listen to me!

Lils - thank you SOOOOO much hun for all your encouragement - especially when you are feeling down yourself.... What would I do without you???? and LOL about you getting on a plane to find me here!!! no need to knock on doors -I will tell you where I live !!- would love to see you! I hope you were able to go to reiki last night and it helped a little?

I think when you and Dwrgi have your babies - you should write a book together with all your encouragement and LOL moments! I know it would be soooo inspirational and entertaining at the same time! I also like the idea re: the Lils/Butterfly chart consulting - hmmm... I would pay double too!

Dwrgi - thank you SOOOO much too hun - you are always there for us too... And we are soooo greatful and fortunate to have come together on here. I agree with what you said about looking back when I'm old and wondering if I should have gone further with it.... I know all these things will work out somehow but just have to take it day by day I guess and take baby steps - but quicker steps!! You asked about why IUI and not IVF... well for 2 reasons - one -financial (we are still in debt for our international adoption - I won't even tell you how much it was and plus we had to stay in her country for 2.5 months! -so the $$$ was high and no salary) Luckily we 'borrowed' what we couldn't cover from my parents so there is no interest... thank goodness... but still always in the back of my mind.... The 2nd reason is because I saw what my sister went through with IVF and the years and years of meds.... I know I'm a different person and perhaps it would work right away for me... but because I come from the more 'natural nutrition' training I am taking baby steps and it's taken me a long time to even want to take the meds again. One try of IVF here with meds would be at least $10,000 ... and I guess I'm thinking I would get more trys of IUI with that money??? I don't know we'll see what my issues are and then I guess figure it out.
I bought a year VIP membership to FF recently - and love it too!!
Good luck to you hun!!! and massive to you!

Butterfly - it looks like you 'timed' it perfectly!!! see your temps went up today! so BD night before ovulation is perfect! GL sweetie!!

Honeybee - great that you are counselling others now ... So wonderful to hear.... GL to you hun!

Nessaw -- GL with reports and end of school - and with your GP app't.. Hope the $ situation improves soon!!

Asry - when do you get to use the doppler?? Will it work now?
oh sooo exciting!

Purple - will probably say they are medical app'ts at my work for when I go for testing/consults - it's more the daily cycle monitoring (early mornings) that's the problem.. Sorry about your wonky eye!!! that is terrible.... is it twitching too???

HTJ - horse MOJO is beautiful!! thanks for sharing!! I am not a drinker but I love 'mojitos'!!! Great name! Oh and you rescued him from slaughter... how amazing!!! What a nasty accident though... glad you are okay now! All limbs crossed for you!!!

Pad - I hope you are BDing as we speak!!! it's Thursday!!! good luck hun and all the best in FL tomorrow!! xoxo

Fro - Kisses and hugs to you!

Gotta run - it's 5:35pm and have to leave work....
Wishing you all a great evening and hello and hugs to everyone I missed!!!

AFM - no sign of AF yet -CD13 - but I'm sure she'll be here tomorrow. Have decided that next cycle I'm not testing on day 12 anymore!! waiting for CD14 or AF late. (my luteal phase is usually only 13 days)

love you all ladies!!!!
xoxo

 

[Honeybee73]

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[drsquid]

had my us today. all good. didnt get an antral count but.. saw a bunch of nice tiny follicles on both sides.. doc is funny. he actually said, ok, no cysts.. we agree right? (ive argued with him about follicle size in the past). im supposed to go back for blood work monday. and of course he says.. ok we will do us wednesday.. the only freaking day im working 30 min away instead of across the street.. i asked if it could be tues or thurs and he told me to talk to my ovaries and get them to cooperate. to add a nice hassle.. still didnt get my copy of labs from kaiser and the ivf clinic is chomping at the bit for them. kaiser is virtually impossible to find phone numbers for.. we faxed a release to who knows where cause they didnt send any labs (doc called me 2 more times today about paperwork issues). and while i was there i got a call from my credit card company asking if i charged over 5000 online.. umm yeah no, that wasnt me. luckily they had blocked it (but not my doctors office charges.. which was great). so now i am without credit card til probably monday. but yay for the company being all over it.. one of the calls from my doc was that he realized he hadnt done a sonohysterogram.. whee.. so i get to do that monday along with the bloodwork (im off that day anyway so it is all good).. i start menopur and gonal tomorrow and continue the medrol and lupron. yay 3 shots a day. but frankly what is the worst is the medrol. damn that tastes bad.. he only had me order 16 vials of menopur.. umm that is only 5 days worth and i wont know til monday if i need more.. hrm. just emailed my doc about that..

oh and the best part... bleeding again.. apparently lupron can do that cause your lining is so thin. wish someone had warned me (not that it would change anything) but two periods a week apart.. yay this is fun

 

[purplelou]

Bumblebee - I would say theres always a small chance you are fertile.
how long since you stopped the contraceptive pill??
It took a couple of months before my cycle settled down after I stopped.
keep an eye on the cm though - because if you see watery or egg white cm there's a good chance you are fertile then

Good luck hun