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tigerlily1975
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Dwrgi, thank you so much for your wonderful advice 
You're always so supportive and incredibly kind.
I got the call from the hospital, but they want me to come in on Monday for another scan and not to start the Gonal-F (as yet). I'm not sure what's going on, they don't seem to tell me very much - unless it's bad news! I just have a suspicion that they may cancel the cycle, as they do seem to be going on about this ovary that they "can't reach". This is our one and only NHS cycle, so maybe they're worried about their statistics.. who knows?! It's all bo**ocks! Enough of me, how are you doing, darling?
Purple, thanks for the info The injections are sub-cutaneous. I was just a bit wary about where to inject in the leg as I know I'll end up stabbing a muscle of something! Ouch!
Daksha, we're selling my dad's house. We've been having to clear out all our parent's things, just so many memories. I hope the acupuncture has put you into a nice, relaxed mood
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and to all, I'm off to finish those cookies now!
C xx
You're always so supportive and incredibly kind. I got the call from the hospital, but they want me to come in on Monday for another scan and not to start the Gonal-F (as yet). I'm not sure what's going on, they don't seem to tell me very much - unless it's bad news! I just have a suspicion that they may cancel the cycle, as they do seem to be going on about this ovary that they "can't reach". This is our one and only NHS cycle, so maybe they're worried about their statistics.. who knows?! It's all bo**ocks! Enough of me, how are you doing, darling?
Purple, thanks for the info
The injections are sub-cutaneous. I was just a bit wary about where to inject in the leg as I know I'll end up stabbing a muscle of something! Ouch! Daksha, we're selling my dad's house. We've been having to clear out all our parent's things, just so many memories. I hope the acupuncture has put you into a nice, relaxed mood
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Urghh Dash moving is a giant pain in the ass... especially when you don't get to chose where you live, so trying to find places for furniture and stuff when they make you go to a smaller house with less storage is a nightmare!
Tiger hope you get some good news!
Tiger hope you get some good news!
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Hi ladies!!!
Pad - I'm so sorry that they are forcing you to move somewhere you have no say in and a smaller place....ARGH... I hope you will be able to make it your own little sweet 'home' soon
Tigerlily - that must be really hard for you packing your Dad's things I really hope the phone call from the hospital/clinic is nothing bad.... but strange that they couldn't tell you more (I hate that).... Fingers crossed that they don't cancel this cycle on you.. Will you get another NHS cycle if they cancel this one?
Lady H - oh I hope it's not AF coming..... Fx for you! but if she does.... break out the chocolate and vino.....
Seems awfully quiet on here today ladies? Where is everyone????
Hope you all have a great weekend!!! It's a long weekend for me - Monday is 'Civic holiday' here....yahoo!!
Pad - I'm so sorry that they are forcing you to move somewhere you have no say in and a smaller place....ARGH... I hope you will be able to make it your own little sweet 'home' soon
Tigerlily - that must be really hard for you packing your Dad's things
I really hope the phone call from the hospital/clinic is nothing bad.... but strange that they couldn't tell you more (I hate that).... Fingers crossed that they don't cancel this cycle on you.. Will you get another NHS cycle if they cancel this one?Lady H - oh I hope it's not AF coming..... Fx for you! but if she does.... break out the chocolate and vino.....
Seems awfully quiet on here today ladies? Where is everyone????
Hope you all have a great weekend!!!
It's a long weekend for me - Monday is 'Civic holiday' here....yahoo!!
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Lady H, I bet it's you who ends up with a BFP and that spotting is implantation
I had my BFN confirmed yesterday with blood test
Whatever... more 
for me this weekend. to all! Enjoy your weekend!Hello everybody! Happy Friday Night!!! Whoop whoop!!!! Hope there are loads of you tucking into loads of (sigh....) and lots of chocolate tonight! It's the weekend after all...
Dashka-lucky you, having a long weekend. I hope you have lots of good things planned. How are things with AD now? I am sure that you are doing all the right things, it's just perseverance, isn't it? (I'd think, IMHO!) xxxx
Owl-so sorry to read of your BFN. Lots of chocolate and wine are indeed in order, big hugs to you lovely, Axxxx
Tiger, oh bless you lovely. You're really going through it. It's always the way-as my Head of Department always says, 'It never rains, but it pours'.. so true. I so hope that you can carry on with your treatment-it's ridiculous to not go ahead with treatment because of the fear that they won't be able to access one ovary. I can understand it if they'd started your stimms and there was nothing going on, but how can they know how you're body will respond? Do you know your amh? This will give you an indicator of how many follicles you'll produce. I was told last summer that they expected to get from me 3-5 eggs, tops (we will ignore the complete disaster of last year's cycle) but in March I had about 15 follicles, all told, and we got 8 eggs. You just can't tell what your body will do, unless you try it. Bar steward NHS -
Pad-nightmare situation lovely, I really feel for you, as you're heart just isn't in it. Oh well, at least it's Friday and you can have some wine and chocolates, and say 'F&&k it' to the world! Big hun, Axxx
Lady H- I really hope that is not AF either. She deserves a special smilie for teasing you like this-
FX it isn't her, Axxxx
Ksluice-how are you getting on lovely? FX that you get loads of follies, Axx
BDM-fabulous results for hubby's swimmers. Great motility, which is super important, and not bad vol either! Yay that they will treat you! Now, you can relax a bit and let them take the strain-
Purps-have a lovely weekend hun, big mwoah mwoahs from me, Axxxx
Lils-what you up to? Hope you're okay lovely... Perhaps a pear cider might be in order this evening??? Have a great weekend, Axxxx
Mirium, what's happening with you lovely? Any sign of the dreaded hag bag? I hope she has NOT put in an appearance... FX for you, Axxxx
Never-we need an update (if you can spare us the time from all that labour type of huffing and puffing....
). Big to you, Axxx
GkPorn
winkwink, Bumble, Twinks, Asry, Fro, Ness, Dr S, Dr H, and absolutely everybody on this site. Have a great weekend everybody!
Axxxx
(sigh....) and lots of chocolate tonight! It's the weekend after all... Dashka-lucky you, having a long weekend. I hope you have lots of good things planned. How are things with AD now? I am sure that you are doing all the right things, it's just perseverance, isn't it? (I'd think, IMHO!
) xxxxOwl-so sorry to read of your BFN. Lots of chocolate and wine are indeed in order, big hugs to you lovely, Axxxx
Tiger, oh bless you lovely. You're really going through it. It's always the way-as my Head of Department always says, 'It never rains, but it pours'.. so true. I so hope that you can carry on with your treatment-it's ridiculous to not go ahead with treatment because of the fear that they won't be able to access one ovary. I can understand it if they'd started your stimms and there was nothing going on, but how can they know how you're body will respond? Do you know your amh? This will give you an indicator of how many follicles you'll produce. I was told last summer that they expected to get from me 3-5 eggs, tops (we will ignore the complete disaster of last year's cycle) but in March I had about 15 follicles, all told, and we got 8 eggs. You just can't tell what your body will do, unless you try it. Bar steward NHS -
Pad-nightmare situation lovely, I really feel for you, as you're heart just isn't in it. Oh well, at least it's Friday and you can have some wine and chocolates, and say 'F&&k it' to the world! Big
hun, AxxxLady H- I really hope that is not AF either. She deserves a special smilie for teasing you like this-
FX it isn't her, AxxxxKsluice-how are you getting on lovely? FX that you get loads of follies, Axx
BDM-fabulous results for hubby's swimmers. Great motility, which is super important, and not bad vol either! Yay that they will treat you! Now, you can relax a bit and let them take the strain-
Purps-have a lovely weekend hun, big mwoah mwoahs from me, Axxxx
Lils-what you up to? Hope you're okay lovely... Perhaps a pear cider might be in order this evening??? Have a great weekend, Axxxx
Mirium, what's happening with you lovely? Any sign of the dreaded hag bag? I hope she has NOT put in an appearance... FX for you, Axxxx
Never-we need an update (if you can spare us the time from all that labour type of huffing and puffing....
). Big to you, AxxxGkPorn
winkwink, Bumble, Twinks, Asry, Fro, Ness, Dr S, Dr H, and absolutely everybody on this site. Have a great weekend everybody!Axxxx
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Owl - I'm sorry for the BFN honey.... be extra good to yourself and enjoy that Vino!
Dwrgi - you are so sweet to ask about AD- thank you -she is a little better this week (only hit me once - I think she is catching herself before she's about to do it - Maybe that really bad scolding from DH worked? We'll see).... I also think she is better this week because we have kind of put the potty training on hold.... So all is good...
How are you doing hun - what do you have planned for the weekend? When is your test date?
Dwrgi - you are so sweet to ask about AD
- thank you -she is a little better this week (only hit me once - I think she is catching herself before she's about to do it - Maybe that really bad scolding from DH worked? We'll see).... I also think she is better this week because we have kind of put the potty training on hold.... So all is good...How are you doing hun - what do you have planned for the weekend?
When is your test date?
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to anyone who needs it!
Reading all of your posts but sorry for not contributing much
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and to anyone who needs it!Reading all of your posts but sorry for not contributing much
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Dwrgi – pear cider is gone (I shared one night w/friends) After Wed night, I’m now out of , I should probably call 911 as it qualifies as an emergency, right? Actually a lady called 911 a couple weeks ago bc she needed a pack of cigarettes RIGHT AWAY. They arrested her. Got to hear the whole call too, I was 
!!! (she was very insistent about it) Na, we are going out tonight & I shall partake of the local red !!! How are you feeling, lovely?! I hope you are as calm as a cucumber. 
You have anything planned this weekend? & So, meant to ask do you know if 6 eggs dropped or 5 or? (how do they tell w/IUI?)
Dash – I did come on & check on you on HSG day, but just didn’t have time to post
Crazy busy lately. YAY for HSG results!!! Sorry you are still having cramping 
but hoping its like Velcro in there now! deep breaths – it won’t implant in abdomen! I also didn’t get anti-b’s. Oh, yeah, my pee is nearly clear, but a lil yellow. My DCM said to drink ½ my weight as well, but to also drink an extra 8-16oz for every cup of coffee (dries you out) and if I have to take a prescription, such as Flexeril (back) that dries me out I have to compensate as well. So I drink 5-6 32oz BPA-free jugs of water + electrolytes. But, yes, that is 160 – 192 oz & I am still thirsty? Getting test results 8/16 so we’ll see. Keeping major FX for you & sending loads of !!! (oh yeah - you dtd for FUN? 
)
BDM – Welcome! I was going to tell you to throw away those months, but now you have your answer & have the best of both worlds – yay! Happy belated birthday!
(So many Leo's here!) And GL in 2WW
Pad – Oooooh I am so telling the FF gods on you!!!! I have to say I moved 3x in 6 months (our entire house – last move was Jan) & the only thing that seemed to help was . But I’m sure vodka works well too . Aw, I know how much it sucks so sending big & glad that you are at least in the new house, w/your DH & not still in limbo!!! Take your time with it & take me-breaks – it’ll get done eventually!
GrkPorn – HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! 
That’s a great AMH! Mine is .84. .90 & up is normal so I am considered low-normal. But who knows what the new one’s gonna say… I am hoping 
stays away for you! But I have also had spotting or brown & then nothing & then AF 1-2 days later so it’s very normal. For some reason our cycles like to mess w/us once we start TTC! Have a great birthday
Nessaw -
Mirium – glad you got lap all scheduled! You never know, I really wasn’t expecting anything to be wrong & apparently I had a septum dividing the ute (which hadn't shown up on HSG or Saline Sono/SHG), so he just snip-snipped right then & there. He didn’t make a big deal of it, but later I found out I should not have tried rt after & that I should have let it heal 2-3 months!!
Needless to say I got pregs & mc’d that month. So, if they do fix anything, make sure you find out definitively (& google to check) if you should be trying rt away… 
Asry – how dare they send you “flower-cards”??? They should still have beer, men or wine on them, or at least food, we are not OLD yet!? Hope you are still enjoying your vacay w/OH & yes, I will take your advice & flush my system with , chocolate & 
bc “Asry said I have to”.
Tiger – eeek, I have the same belt except that mine will be here the rest of my TTC days (blood thinners – daily no matter what). We shall have to exchange beauty pics ones day! Mine are subcutaneous & can inject in abdomen, butt or outer part of leg but the key is you have to still be able to grab 1-2 inches of skin so it doesn’t go into the muscle. Maybe for Mon appt Dr wants to ensure that you get as many eggs as possible out of leftie? If you only have one chance, that would be a good thing That is what it is sounding like to me…
LadyH – FX for you that the spotting is implantation!!! Still early for you yet, chickie! I agree, we need another round of BFP's!!!!
BF – hope you are feeling better as far as your back is concerned I’ll come stalk soon…
Owl -
Purps – big to our bumpy girl for still being here! Have fun w/your dad & yummy Chinese tonight!
Twinks - lovely!
Fro - & hope you are having fun on your vacay too!!!
HA -
DrS – hope everything is going well there doc
Chicken -
Never – good luck honey!!! So exciting…
Viccat – you OK?
DrH, Bumble, HTJ, 2have4, 4ever young, ksluice (updates pleez!),FlyFL, maddy40, Bearlake (you ok?) & anyone else I missed!
AFM – I am going to go partake in some tonight because… “just got paid, Friday night, Party hoppin', feelin right, Booties shakin', all around…”. Please somebody tell me you remember that one!? Also, doesn’t like so I do it just to p!ss her off! I have an appt for 8/16 w/IVF Dr to get all the test results (yikes). Also gonna try natural 1-2 cycles then go IUI. Well, if AMH really bad perhaps start IUI in Sept? Got the info, cost & etc from Dr & DH agreed to try 1-2 more natural, then IUI. But he will not agree to IVF as it is way too $$$. I am just happy he agrees w/IUI & knows the downside & still willing to go ahead w/it. Have an awesome weekend y’all!!!
After Wed night, I’m now out of , I should probably call 911 as it qualifies as an emergency, right? Actually a lady called 911 a couple weeks ago bc she needed a pack of cigarettes RIGHT AWAY. They arrested her. Got to hear the whole call too, I was !!! (she was very insistent about it) Na, we are going out tonight & I shall partake of the local red !!! How are you feeling, lovely?! I hope you are as calm as a cucumber. You have anything planned this weekend? & So, meant to ask do you know if 6 eggs dropped or 5 or? (how do they tell w/IUI?)Dash – I did come on & check on you on HSG day, but just didn’t have time to post
Crazy busy lately. YAY for HSG results!!! Sorry you are still having cramping but hoping its like Velcro in there now! deep breaths – it won’t implant in abdomen! I also didn’t get anti-b’s. Oh, yeah, my pee is nearly clear, but a lil yellow. My DCM said to drink ½ my weight as well, but to also drink an extra 8-16oz for every cup of coffee (dries you out) and if I have to take a prescription, such as Flexeril (back) that dries me out I have to compensate as well. So I drink 5-6 32oz BPA-free jugs of water + electrolytes. But, yes, that is 160 – 192 oz & I am still thirsty? Getting test results 8/16 so we’ll see. Keeping major FX for you & sending loads of !!! (oh yeah - you dtd for FUN? )BDM – Welcome! I was going to tell you to throw away those months, but now you have your answer & have the best of both worlds – yay! Happy belated birthday!
(So many Leo's here!) And GL in 2WW Pad – Oooooh I am so telling the FF gods on you!!!!
I have to say I moved 3x in 6 months (our entire house – last move was Jan) & the only thing that seemed to help was . But I’m sure vodka works well too . Aw, I know how much it sucks so sending big & glad that you are at least in the new house, w/your DH & not still in limbo!!! Take your time with it & take me-breaks – it’ll get done eventually! GrkPorn – HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
That’s a great AMH! Mine is .84. .90 & up is normal so I am considered low-normal. But who knows what the new one’s gonna say… I am hoping stays away for you! But I have also had spotting or brown & then nothing & then AF 1-2 days later so it’s very normal. For some reason our cycles like to mess w/us once we start TTC! Have a great birthday Nessaw -
Mirium – glad you got lap all scheduled! You never know, I really wasn’t expecting anything to be wrong & apparently I had a septum dividing the ute (which hadn't shown up on HSG or Saline Sono/SHG), so he just snip-snipped right then & there. He didn’t make a big deal of it, but later I found out I should not have tried rt after & that I should have let it heal 2-3 months!!
Needless to say I got pregs & mc’d that month. So, if they do fix anything, make sure you find out definitively (& google to check) if you should be trying rt away… Asry – how dare they send you “flower-cards”???
They should still have beer, men or wine on them, or at least food, we are not OLD yet!? Hope you are still enjoying your vacay w/OH & yes, I will take your advice & flush my system with , chocolate & bc “Asry said I have to”. Tiger – eeek, I have the same belt except that mine will be here the rest of my TTC days (blood thinners – daily no matter what)
. We shall have to exchange beauty pics ones day! Mine are subcutaneous & can inject in abdomen, butt or outer part of leg but the key is you have to still be able to grab 1-2 inches of skin so it doesn’t go into the muscle. Maybe for Mon appt Dr wants to ensure that you get as many eggs as possible out of leftie? If you only have one chance, that would be a good thing That is what it is sounding like to me… LadyH – FX for you that the spotting is implantation!!! Still early for you yet, chickie!
I agree, we need another round of BFP's!!!!BF – hope you are feeling better as far as your back is concerned
I’ll come stalk soon…Owl -
Purps – big
to our bumpy girl for still being here! Have fun w/your dad & yummy Chinese tonight!Twinks -
lovely!Fro -
& hope you are having fun on your vacay too!!!HA -
DrS – hope everything is going well there doc
Chicken -
Never – good luck honey!!! So exciting…
Viccat – you OK?
DrH, Bumble, HTJ, 2have4, 4ever young, ksluice (updates pleez!),FlyFL, maddy40, Bearlake (you ok?) & anyone else I missed!AFM – I am going to go partake in some
tonight because… “just got paid, Friday night, Party hoppin', feelin right, Booties shakin', all around…”. Please somebody tell me you remember that one!? Also, doesn’t like so I do it just to p!ss her off! I have an appt for 8/16 w/IVF Dr to get all the test results (yikes). Also gonna try natural 1-2 cycles then go IUI. Well, if AMH really bad perhaps start IUI in Sept? Got the info, cost & etc from Dr & DH agreed to try 1-2 more natural, then IUI. But he will not agree to IVF as it is way too $$$. I am just happy he agrees w/IUI & knows the downside & still willing to go ahead w/it. Have an awesome weekend y’all!!! 
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hi ladies.
after literally crying over spilt milk-trying to make bechamel sauce for lasagne,we had bolognese instead!-I've managed to calm down a bit.spoke to the doctor today.she reckons she did the referral but its lost in a secretarial backlog!!whatever!!would be more inclined to believe it had I not had to chase up the previous ultrasound appt.ajyway back to waiting another 4 weeks for the fertility clinic appt which means it will be when I'm back to school making everything a pain.good news was she had my prog results which have gone up again.they're looking for 30 (sos can't remember the unit of measure).gone from 5 to 18 to 19.5.unfortunately we don't have last months when i know i ov'd.am not very good at waiting!!got appt for boyfs sa results on the 13th and got my pre period cramps so that will show its ugly face next week when we're visiting boyfs mum who can be a bit special.ho hum.
owl-sorry about bfn.tis pants.
pad-good luck with the packing.
thanks for all ur support.sorry for prev rant and present me msg.
much love to all.keeping fingers crossed for some bfps.
vxx
after literally crying over spilt milk-trying to make bechamel sauce for lasagne,we had bolognese instead!-I've managed to calm down a bit.spoke to the doctor today.she reckons she did the referral but its lost in a secretarial backlog!!whatever!!would be more inclined to believe it had I not had to chase up the previous ultrasound appt.ajyway back to waiting another 4 weeks for the fertility clinic appt which means it will be when I'm back to school making everything a pain.good news was she had my prog results which have gone up again.they're looking for 30 (sos can't remember the unit of measure).gone from 5 to 18 to 19.5.unfortunately we don't have last months when i know i ov'd.am not very good at waiting!!got appt for boyfs sa results on the 13th and got my pre period cramps so that will show its ugly face next week when we're visiting boyfs mum who can be a bit special.ho hum.
owl-sorry about bfn.tis pants.
pad-good luck with the packing.
thanks for all ur support.sorry for prev rant and present me msg.
much love to all.keeping fingers crossed for some bfps.
vxx
Caved in and used IC this am....
Sorry to hear this. It's all pants, isn't it? Be kind to yourself today, and lots of wine tonight! You'll get there, Axx
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It's OK, don't panic to those of you who can't have tonight, I'll have your share
Lady H
tonight, I'll have your share Lady H
It's OK, don't panic to those of you who can't have
Lady H
Have a few on me too, although I WILL have a half pint tonight (of cider, Lil!! Yum, yum). I'm sure this is allowed.....
Hope everybody's having a great weekend, Axxxxx
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Hi lovelies!
Hope you are all having a good weekend so far?
This'll be a quick one, cos poor dh has got a poorly tum so I'm busy minding him and dogs etc etc!!
It sounds like everyone needs a massive hug, soooooo......
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Quick never news
Hope you are all having a good weekend so far?
This'll be a quick one, cos poor dh has got a poorly tum so I'm busy minding him and dogs etc etc!!
It sounds like everyone needs a massive hug, soooooo......
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Quick never news
Andrea is still in hospital and is going to be induced later today or first thing tomorrow! So she'll be meeting oopsie very soon
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So sorry to hear this - it just blows doesn't it?Caved in and used IC this am....
Cheers ladies!
Huge
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Caved in and used IC this am....
I'm not sure I'd count on ic's at just 12DPO. While my Wondfo's showed + on 12DPO, those ic's from peeonastick.com didn't show +hpt until 15-friggin-DPO!!!
But sending big
either way... & a 
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