TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[Butterfly67]

Welcome back luv I agree you have to say something to your cuz

Dwrgi sh** bo****** ***k f*** etc etc

Purps hope they figure out what is wrong with your eye

Pad damn the thyroid. Wish I could come over to see you and dwrgi and we could drink some cider til we fall over

DrH sounds like you have had an amazing time

chicken

owl -get reading

Lils hope you are feeling a teeny bit better today at least

dash, you too and damn AF again

What is it wit the nightmares? Had one myself last night that I was going to be beheaded and I had to keep hiding so they didn't find me, was a bit scary Back is a little better than a few weeks ago but painful on and off. Did a fair bit of decorating today so is a bit sore but could be worse.

 

[luvmydoggies]

Dwrgi- Thank you!! I have missed your posts also. You are so sweet, kind, caring!

Purple- Thank you! It's so lovely to see you also! You are getting so close to your due date!!! How exciting!!!
I hope your eye is okay.

Butterfly- Thank you! it feels good to be back! Have missed you all so much!

DrHouse- Sending skinny vibes right back to you!

AFM, Thank you for listening to my rant about my cuz. I have been staying off FB, since she has decided to post constantly about herself etc. etc. I don't call her and luckily she lives about an 8 hour drive from me. I can't really say anything to her because that side of the family holds grudges forever! But I am def. keeping her at a distance.

Sending us all.....

Hello to all the ladies!!!!

Hello to Mirium,Ness,tiger!

 

[FlyFlorida]

So, I took a hiatus from this thread the past several weeks. The RE put me on BCPs (luprel or something) for the 3 weeks leading up to my polyp removal. I had never taken a BCP in my 38 years. My cycle and ovulation HAD been textbook until I took those BCPs. I finally had a period again, but should be ovulating, but cannot get a positive OPK. I always got a positive OPK on CD 13 or 14 that coincided with EWCM. I have the CM (TMI-sry) but no positive OPK. The RE's office has been hounding me since polyp removal to start IVF drugs, but I wanted to take a couple months to try naturally with that large polyp removed. I didn't feel right taking those BCPs to begin with as I felt like I was messing up my clockwork cycle of 26 years of ovulating. Now I'm thinking it's jacked since I missed last months period after stopping BCPs and this month I'm not getting an LH reading/positive OPK. Did that Luprel mess up my hormones, and for how long?
BTW, the myriad of drugs we were briefed of WRT IVF I found frightening, invasive, and overwhelming.
Any words?
Thanks!

 

[FlyFlorida]

Chicken and Dwrgi:
WRT BFPs, someone please choke me! I work with one female and all the rest are male. It seems as though every wife is getting PG, and those that aren't already have 4-5 kids. It's difficult. My hubby and I went out to dinner, drove past Staples and saw a sign for school supplies... we both drove home sad. My work is so busy and absorbs my every thought while I'm there. The drive to and from work is when it catches up with me, and I remember that I am 38 and my hubby and I have no kids and may never have any. It's horrible. Seeing your husband's eyes well up because he may not have kids is the knife to the chest.

 

[FlyFlorida]

Ok. SORRY for the TRIFECTA post!
Last question. When you have been TTC for 2 years, do you guys cut out alcohol completely? That's what I did with the exception- I had a margarita at the neighbors last month because I knew I was not PG because of the BCPs for polyp removal. My husband and I are throwing a monster work/neighborhood party in September that we are putting a lot of planning, effort and money into. My chart states that the party date will fall on the day prior to the earliest possible positive PG test. I guess I can't drink at this party we are throwing then, correct? odds are it will be another BFN a week later.

 

[Mirium]

FlyFlorida - My advice is - find a way not to panic. Try to think some positive thoughts at least because you do not have full control over this. All you can do is your best and who knows - you may have a child!! I know it's tough though but hang in there! Ask your doc about birth control too. I stopped taking it a few years ago but I don't know too much about it. Try to reduce stress too as that could cause problems too and take the best care of yourself - that's all you can do and would help. Most likely, your cycle would stabilise soon. Also, are you checking for LH surge twice a day - between 1 & 2-30 pm thereabout (too early in morning is not recommended) and in evening between 5 & 7 pm thereabout. Sometimes you can miss it testing once a day. Regarding drinking, of course - you want it to be very limited so a small amount of mild alcohol like wine should not hurt. It doesn't seem to. All the best!!!

 

[purplelou]

Flyflorida - welcome back glad the polyp removal went well! as far as the BCP - they can and do mess with cycles, but, and this is good news...it seems that in a lot of people the messing up is proportional to the length of time you took them for . I know I was on them for years (maybe 15-20) and it took a few months for things to settle down...but they did. ladies who only took them a short while - cycles seemed to settled much more quickly so hopefully that is the case for you. If I were you I would take notice if you are getting ewcm....because maybe you LT surge is very very short this month and there is still is change for catching that eggy.

ivf meds - can't help you there but some of the ladies will definitely be able to help xx



bumble - I was thinking about you and wondering where you are...hope you are ok???


ladies - it's wednesday..but it feels like thursday (as predicted) hope you are all doing well today. big giant for you all xxxxx

 

[Dwrgi]

Dwrgi- Thank you!! I have missed your posts also. You are so sweet, kind, caring!

Purple- Thank you! It's so lovely to see you also! You are getting so close to your due date!!! How exciting!!!
I hope your eye is okay.

Butterfly- Thank you! it feels good to be back! Have missed you all so much!

DrHouse- Sending skinny vibes right back to you!

AFM, Thank you for listening to my rant about my cuz. I have been staying off FB, since she has decided to post constantly about herself etc. etc. I don't call her and luckily she lives about an 8 hour drive from me. I can't really say anything to her because that side of the family holds grudges forever! But I am def. keeping her at a distance.

Sending us all.....

Hello to all the ladies!!!!

Hello to Mirium,Ness,tiger!

Luv-did you know that you can 'Hide' posts by certain people on FB? I did it with my silly SIL when she was being an a%se bandit a while ago. You just hover over their posts, on the top right hand side, and you will see a down arrow, which will reveal some options. Think the one you want is 'Unsubscribe from Status updates from...' that person. They will still be your 'Friend' but you won't get their constant bragging updates! There is a way of dealing with everything, my friend!

 

[dashka]

hi ladies!!
Sorry didn't get a chance to get on here yesterday -as found I had 140 emails and 2 meetings to deal with at work (and I was only off for a day!) and was totally wiped last night.

so just getting ready for work - have to jump in the shower and it took me about 30 min to read through all the posts...

I have made all my notes to type but will have to do when I get to work!....

Just wanted to send you all big squishy ...
especially you Dwrgi.... I'm so sorry about the BFN and looks like AF showed up.... total rubbish!!!! Be good to yourself hun

 

[Dwrgi]

hi ladies!!
Sorry didn't get a chance to get on here yesterday -as found I had 140 emails and 2 meetings to deal with at work (and I was only off for a day!) and was totally wiped last night.

so just getting ready for work - have to jump in the shower and it took me about 30 min to read through all the posts...

I have made all my notes to type but will have to do when I get to work!....

Just wanted to send you all big squishy ...
especially you Dwrgi.... I'm so sorry about the BFN and looks like AF showed up.... total rubbish!!!! Be good to yourself hun

Thanks, Dash, yes she did. Vile boo poo hag . First thing this morning, and THE worst period pain ever. I took 4 Anadins in one hour it was so bad, and I got no sleep because of it. Not feeling 100%, got a bit of a fever now too. Moan moan moan.

Anyway, hope you're feeling a bit better today . Big squishy coming right back at you, and a xoxoxoxoxox, which Lils taught me yesterday!!

Fly Flo-IVF drugs can seem a bit overwhelming. You'll have one set to stop you ovulating, and another set to help your follicles mature. You'll get the hang of it, I promise. xxxx

Hello All!

Purps, you're a star, as ever!

 

[Asryellah]

AFM well following my tests yesterday morning I got a call from a Dr last night saying that my thyroid was still way out! In 6 months i have dropped from 150mg levothyroxine to 25mg (lowest dose possible).... she is absolutely confused as to why this is happening... my thyroid started to mess about after my last 2 pregnancies last year... Dr said that pregnancy certainly does affect thyroid levels...but they should not be this badly affected for this long. She is as confused as I am. Have to go back in 6 weeks for another test....

She also said that my levels being so far out will definately have contributed to me not getting pregnant for over a year...

OMG frikkin thyroid.... sod off!!!!!

Hi Pad!
Thyroid problems suck! I was tested over a year ago, and was put onto Thyroxin 25mg just because my TSH levels were ONLY 2,7 and infertility clinic want levels to be under 2,5 which is pretty low!! And yours have been sky high as I read from your other posts.
I read a lot about thyroid probs back then, and to my eyes your numbers seem so high that thyroid is prob. your (only) problem what is keeping you not getting&staying preggers. Have you been seeing an endocrinologist or just a "normal" doctor? A specialist might be able to help you sooner.

Well, my prob was not the thyroid, but levels did go under 2,5 and are still there when they tested once I got pg as its dangerous for the child if they stay high.

I really hope you get good answers from a person who knows their business!!! And end up preggers soon!

to you all ladies

 

[BDownmommie]

Hey all - sorry for the BFN Dwgri - horrible - i hate that - even more so now because i see all the ladies (and men) she pisses of each month!
And she's been so strange to me this month - swooped in early - then just kinda hung around lightly for a few days and didn't seem to want to go away - made me nervous because i started the letrozole this month...so day 2 i tested bc it didn't seem like it was a real AF = but of course, she was here.

Anyways - yesterday was day 5 of meds, so get to stop them today. Got for my baseline test in 2 hours - kinda nervous for results. Maybe its anxious, idk

 

[Dwrgi]

Hey all - sorry for the BFN Dwgri - horrible - i hate that - even more so now because i see all the ladies (and men) she pisses of each month!
And she's been so strange to me this month - swooped in early - then just kinda hung around lightly for a few days and didn't seem to want to go away - made me nervous because i started the letrozole this month...so day 2 i tested bc it didn't seem like it was a real AF = but of course, she was here.

Anyways - yesterday was day 5 of meds, so get to stop them today. Got for my baseline test in 2 hours - kinda nervous for results. Maybe its anxious, idk

Good luck BDM-I'm sure it will go well! Think positive and try not to worry, Axxx

 

[purplelou]

:BDown: good luck with your tests

 

[LilSluz]

beautiful BNB babes! Sorry I’ve been quite busy with work, after-work work & other crapola so I don’t get on as much (will have to talk to my boss about that! )…

Purps - I will send you your plane ticket for next month’s intralipids . Na, I’ve had missed bloods often, but IV’s are a whole other story. I’ll request someone else. And bless your heart for saying that I am loved by DH & you guys – brought a tear to my eye. You are always so nice & helpful & there for us How is weird eye? I am going to nickname you Weird Eye Yankovic


BDown – Thanks, I agree And GL today!!!

Tiger – hmmm, in the shower doing dishes? You must be getting excited GL on scans on Fri & as always, keep us updated!

Fro – funny, you must have baby-brain. You got me twice, actually (but I don’t mind!) Hope those yoga teacher classes are still going well & you aren’t having difficulty in your position…

Nessaw – one great thing about is that really they can be completely lame as long as they get into that egg – the egg takes over & does the rest (as usual, women do all the work! ). But with no motility, of course try to improve with supp’s, but you may need help getting lil to egg. Not sure if IUI could be enough or you’d have to do ICSI, but you have options, honey

Chicken – looks like you, me & Miriam are all on the same cycles. I “should” ov Fri or Sat. Doesn’t look like O has happened on your chart, but temps starting to dip now, so catch that eggy, girl! P.S. – how was the barefoot festival?

Dwrgi – thanks for the kind words & don’t worry I will fight this MTHFR! . Oh honey, blasted biatch old pimply hag face! F*ckety F*ck F*ck F*ck! (as ladyH kindly taught me) You go have all the chocolate, cider & cursing that you can muster! And not necessarily in that order! You know that we were all saying our prayers & sending vibes & we love you & you so deserve this . And of course Google U. has taught me that they are now able to take a healthy nucleus from a DE & put in our OE, but that technology won’t be out for like 5-10 yrs – figures! (unless we can become a test subject??? Hmmm) (Oh yeah, xoxoxo , you are quick-learner!)


Dashka – Great post! thank you – I will fight the depression. At least now I can tell when I’m slipping so I can catch myself! I know that DH doesn’t want it as much as me, but he’s just being a man. Many men don’t realize/aren’t able to “see” what having a child would be like. They see other people’s kids crying & think, F that. But at least by the delivery, they “get it”. I think he may actually be a little afraid of competing for my attention with a baby, too (aw) & afraid we won’t be able to do what we want.

I think Dr was just throwing the endo thing out there as a possibility, so I wouldn’t give it too much of your beautiful positive energy – save that for better things . I don’t watch Extreme Makeover, but can suggest you start off small – maybe 2x/wk power-walk a mile, then you can increase once you feel OK with it – slowly. I’ve had the same issues w/my back, so I know its scary. Or maybe yoga would be better for you? (Fro can you comment?). With the water, get a 32 oz BPA-free water bottle. This way you just have to make sure you fill it up & drink at least 2/day (3 preferable). And the water itself is usually free (fridge or water cooler at work, etc) vs paying $2/8-10 oz water (hate that!). Sending you , &

Janey - FSH of 5 in the US is great!

Luv – hope losing the weight helps w/PCOS too? Good for you – it sounds like you are on the right track!

GrkPorn – great you have a great RE & a plan now

Pad – frkn thyrioid! No wonder your chart’s been all over the place & perhaps didn’t ov a couple times? Eeek, you have to get that under control pronto! Idk about thyroids. But, I am glad you have a good RE now. Perhaps there is a good reason you moved to the country, even if you got dragged there kicking & screaming thumbup: Sometimes we think something bad is happening & then we look back & go “oh thank God that did happen!”. I am hoping this is one of those time for you!!!

DrH – WOW, sounds like a totally awesome vacay!!! Perhaps the diamond is still especially forming for you . You know, while we are all “waiting” to get pregs, it really helps a lot of us to get ourselves healthy. If AF arrives, it helps to say “OK, this month I’m going to _____ to get even healthier.” It really helps a lot of us get thru this & heck, it makes us healthier whether we get pregs or not, so it can’t be a bad thing!

BF – Hi lovely! Glad your back is better, but it still sux to deal with intermittent pain, too . At the massage Sat w/the girls, the therapist said my back muscles were super weak . Sh*t. That means I’ll have to bite the bullet & find some exercise or yoga poses that are actually “safe” to do (many abdominals not safe for us). If I find the “right” ones, I’ll let you know. Yikes, beheading! I’d be hiding too! I’d actually be surprised if we all weren’t getting nightmares after what we go thru. Glad the reno’s coming along (gotta get on your journal - soon!) (P.S. – I feel a bit better thanks!)

Mirium – looks like you & I are on the exact same schedule w/O & cycles! FX!

Owl – hope you are doing well

Asry – when can we get a spoiler update? Hope you are doing well, honey!

everyone else! I don’t want to forget anyone, so just saying hi to all & wishing you a great day!

AFM – I’m working my way out of my “funk”. Exercise & meditation/reiki helping a lot. I am a little confused, however. O time s/b Fri or Sat. I usually get very healthy EWCM the whole week before & I have pulled out ALL the stops – gf juice, mucinex & EPO. Nothing. Dry as a desert (sorry if TMI). I’m a little worried perhaps it might be annov or very late O, which means the egg would not be the healthiest to get fertilized anyway. Just very odd as this is the 1st time this has ever happened in my 18 months of TTC (although it may have happened in my annov month last yr???). Idk. As my Brit friends would say: Sod it! Whatever will be will be...

Oh yeah, IVF Dr. appt this Thursday to get some test results. Great. Will post when I get them... Have a great day ladies!

 

[padbrat]

Hey all...

DrH I had 'true flu' back in 2004 and I was ill ever since then with energy levels low and weight put on etc... an ultrasound in 2006 confirmed my thyroid had died, they think the flu killed it.... was heavily scarred and not functioning. So ever since then been on thyroxine.... so any ideas?

Butterfly just get yourself over here and we can booze it up with Dwrgi... lets find a Welsh beach and sit and drink ice cold cider!!

Asry the Dr def reckons my thyoid has not helped the situation. As I say it has been off with massive levels for 6 months now... is not funny. GP thinks they can sort it, no way I would get to see a specialist... am also waiting for my 21 day test.

Luv! Welcome back! Families are a giant pain in the a**!

Wahey Lils... sod it! I am on a fitness thing with ya.. been running and sweating my way through the Davina DVD... I know you wont know what that is... but let me tell you she is a mean biach! LOL

Purps hows that eye chick?

Dash... dunno what I have to say to you except (hugs)!!

Hello everyone else!!

 

[tigerlily1975]

Hey Luv It's really lovely to hear from you! Sorry to hear you've been having a rotten time of it - BookFace is a no-go when you're feeling fragile - WELL DONE on the weight loss, I hope you can start treatment soon.

Dwrgi Even when you expect it, the result still hits you like a ton of bricks. I'm sorry you're feeling really under the weather too, ah, it's all pretty sh*tty. I hope you feel better soon so you can have those ciders for me! Are you taking a break now or mulling over your next move? You're amazing, you know that right? Thanks again for all the advice I've always drunk 2-3 litres of water a day, so the amount I'm putting away at the moment.. let's just say I need to make sure a toilet is nearby!

Purple: just because you're so lovely!

GrkPorn: That's great that you have a plan!

chickenchaser: I don't think the BFPs get any easier, but strangely, when it's someone from, say here, it's great. It's like, we've shared the journey to get there, so it's wonderful. I hope it's your turn soon

Ksluice: I hope you've had some good news.

Pad: Aw, hun That's all you ruddy need after what you've been through. I hope they can get it under control and sharpish!

Butterfly: I hope you're not doing too much, lady

DrH: Sounds like you had a fab holiday. Any sign of that BIG diamond engagement ring?!

owl: Did you manage the tremendous catch-up?

Lil: This journey is both physically and emotionally draining. You are doing so well keeping up the fighting spirit

FlyF: This is my first IVF/ICSI cycle and I too found it a bit overwhelming at first. BUT just take one-day at a time. I was suppressing at first and have now been on the Gonal F for a week - going for my first scan on Friday. No real side-effects so far (aside from headaches and feeling a bit 'uncomfortable'). Once you've got the first injection out of the way, you'll soon get in to a pattern. Good Luck!!

Frol: Thank you for the info, I can see why a KD was right for all of you. I hope you're both doing well.

Asry: Lovely to hear from you Hope you're both good.

BDown: Hope the baseline test went well.

Mirium: I hope you catch that eggy before you head off!

Daksha: I think you definitely need some of these I hope you're able to reschedule your appt.

LadyH: I hope the break is doing you some good

Maddy:

Love and to everyone else - especially those who may be lurking

Not too much to report here. I'm basically bloaty and running to the loo quite a bit and also officially suffering with post-olympic-blues Trying NOT to think about what 'should' be happening over the next week as I start racking-up a list of worries; will I have any eggs? Will DH's one, twitchy sperm survive the thaw? Will they find anymore viable sperm in the tissue?... questions, questions, questions...

Ah, bugger this, I'm gonna nick an ice-cream van and do a runner!

Ciao!

C xx

 

[chickenchaser]

tigerlily - Thanks I'm just have a bad couple of weeks ignore me I will be back to my normal self soon.

Lils - Barefoot was fantastic, You will have to join me next year, It is right up your street. I loved it and didn't want it to end.
Thanks for looking at my chart, it is really confusing me. I had (as I thought) a perfect chart in June. July I expected it to be off because of the temperature in mexico but this month I'm a full degree warmer and I still haven't had a positive OPK. I'm really confused. Your reassurance means a lot.

 

[LilSluz]

I knew I forgot someone - Fly! Fly - I have to suggest you chart/temp. Definitely do as Purps said & use your EWCM as a good sign bc like she says, you may not catch that surge (I have to OPK 2-3x/day once good EWCM around bc it will literally disappear in like 2-4 hrs! ). But, temping.charting will go a step further & confirm O as you will see the definite shift in temps post-O. Also, OPK's aren't a confirmation of Ov & you can actually get a +OPK & not ov. So a lot of us temp (to confirm O & lots of other things) & do OPK's (to warn us of impending O) & it sounds like that may be up your alley, espec if you think BCP messed up your cycles. I am sure they will normalize, so now you just have to look forward & try to take control. GL!

Pad - the welsh beach plan sounds like a definite order for you ladies!

Tiger - big in order. All that has ot do is show up - the egg does the rest even if is completely !!! Ommmmmm.... Ommmmm.... vibes coming yoru way ~~~~~ (Oh & can you grab me a push-pop? )

Chicken - Glad you had a fab time! I would love to come back some day (as long as its for-real summer ) See also prev posts about the +OPK issues (if EWCM try to test 2x/day to catch it) You'll get the hang of the charting, don't worry about the actual temps, rather focus on if there was a clear & sustainable shift by at least 2C post O. Now that I looked at your last month's chart, I do have to say, I am a bit confused. Your post-O temps were lower than your pre-O temps? Did you get Day 21's or anything else that confirmed O? You may not have O'd last month, so don't compare it to that chart. And don't worry as it is actually normal for women our age to have an annov cycle maybe 1x/yr. I may have one this cycle, actually. So hopefully this month will be a little clearer & on-the-mark!!!

 

[Dwrgi]

Hello girls! I'm back for my afternoon shift!!!

Pad-where the heck are you so that we can schedule a meet perhaps before I go back to school (and the prison doors clang shut... )? Are you near train station so we can meet in the middle and have a few beers and then get abusive to the transport police (like I did last year, when me and OH snuck into First Class, and we were caught, and told to go back to the other carriage, and I said, pished as a fart, 'You exshpect me to go in there with that lot?' and Transport Police man turned to OH and said 'Your wife is very drunk Sir!' )????

Chicken-glad you're feeling a bit better. This whole business truly sucks, so it's how to deal with the many challenges and obstacles. Big

Tiger-very sensible to always have a toilet nearby, as you need to drink loads. Good luck with next scan-is it this Friday? I, too, am completely missing the Olympics and my new hero (ine) is Victoria Pendleton, who I have a girl crush on . Did you manage to nick a Whipsy van? Hope you got the jingle jangles to work!!! How cool would that be??

Lilsbeth-lovely to read your posts as always. Hmmm, could the intralipids be affecting the CM??? How amazing about the DE technology and the nucleus work. That is just incredible. Yes, of course, probably far too late for us. Bl**dy typical. It's good that the masseuse diagnosed your back muscles as being weak, as you can incorporate exercises to develop them. You will, of course, need strong muscles to carry your baby, so get moving!!!!! winkwink:). I don't think that men get the 'need' to be a parent, and I have certainly come across the scenario of not wanting to 'share' their wife with their child. Boys/men=too used to mama's attention, and then want the same from their wives (talking of which, my MIL has just dropped in. Agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain. ). Big to you lovely lady, and xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox winkwink. P.S. Good luck with catching that egg! I'm rooting for you! xxx

Asry-lovely to read your post and good to know that you are still 'there' keeping an eye on us all, big to you!

BDM-how did baseline scan go??? Hope it went well? Axxx

Me and OH have been beachcombing, and came back with a stack of wood which I'm going to make into SOMETHING (here's the link if you want to have a look; I'm not moon lighting for Welsh Tourist Board, btw! https://www.qype.co.uk/place/2419741-Sker-Beach-Bridgend). Hmm, my creative juices are flowing.

Emailed my clinic about my result and Amanda said to pop in for a chat whenever we wanted. She is just THE most amazing woman ever. Not sure how I feel about DE or anything to do with fertility at the mo., all too early, so I'm just going to go with the flow (as Queens of the Stone Age said). I think I'm in denial. Feel better this afternoon-this morning's blip must have been a hangover ! Naughty naughty.