TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

okay sorry me again - but just read something have to share..... I have been thinking a lot about how I treat myself and put myself down sometimes-and how I need to start showing myself more love and compassion the way I would treat a little child (you would never put down/scold a 2-3 yr old for the things we torment ourselves with) so why not be good to our inner child?

Here is a great link .... but my favourite part is:

Step 2 - Know that you are your own best mother.
Treat yourself like an ideal mother would by talking to yourself in a wonderful, nurturing way and providing for yourself that which you wish you had received from your own mother.
For example, say to yourself, “Darling, I see that you’re tired. Why don’t you lie down and take a nice nap. When you get up, we’ll have a nice cup of hot tea” or “I see that you need a break. How about a nice hot bath and a good book.” You get the picture.


https://www.hungryforchange.tv/the-power-of-love
 
Just lurking..not posting...Love to all of you ladies!! Work has me very busy. It's been a crazy week! I like being busy though I must say. Sending lots of :baby: ~~~~~ to you all!!! Hugs & Kisses!! Fro!!!!
 
What the heck are those pills you were taking Asry???

Ha ha, yeah I know :haha:, my reflexologist doesn't believe in western medicine and believes our bodies cure itselves if its nourished right way. So she suggested those Sepia officinalis pills for me for my short LH-phase and to regulate my cycles. It is homeopathic remedy like Dashka said, heres something https://www.webhomeopath.com/homeop...dies/homeopathy-remedy-Sepia_officinalis.html

Yay its friday guys :yipee: I hope all of you have a fab weekend :friends:!! :hugs:

LilS & Fro! Stay safe!!! :hugs::kiss:
 
:hi: ladies :hugs: and Happy Friday!!!

Moondust - so glad your poor kitty is ok, it sounds sensible to take a month off and make sure you are healthy after that!

Greek Porn - I used CBFM and missed that surge although FF showed I had O'd (and actually it happened the month i got my BFP) your chart looks good so fingers crossed chick!!

Lils and Frol - ladies please stay safe, I hope the hurricane blows itself out and comes nowhere near you guys xxxx

Dwrgi - big loves to you xxxx are you feeling all rested and relaxed after your lovely break?? I bet your furbabies were pleased to see you!

Chicken - good luck with the job - it sounds perfect! fingers crossed for you xxxx

Flyflorida - hooray for a positve opk - fingers crossed for you chick xxx

Nessaw - I hope your appointment comes soon, its a pain in the neck having to repeat your story over and over! :hugs:

Pad big squeezy :hugs: how are you doing with the unpacking/sorting???

Dashka - :hi: your chart looks fine - I think FF was a having a little freak out when it said you Ov'd cd8 :wacko: seems like its back on track now .

Asry - Cuttlefish ink ??? :sick: you are braver than me!!

hope everyone's Friday is good and happy weekend (especially ladies in the UK - it's a bank holiday!! :yipee: )
 
Omg Asry what doesn't that stuff take care of? It is a wonder stuff! Where do you order it from?... was interested in the stuffy nose it takes care of as I suffer all the time with that!

Chicken you need to put your camera on a long exposure to get great pictures of the night sky!

Lils... I am hoping that Isaac swerves away from FL. I hear it is being upgraded from tropical storm... please stay safe chick. xx

Dash have you heard of this squid stuff Asry is talking about? Can't believe that Grk heard the song at the same time as us all...

Is fate! That should be the thread song!

Purps i am a dab hand at the unpacking now... was all done weeks ago! LOL How is the eye? A rainy bank hol... boo hoo

Hey Fro!

Today I will mostly be listening to....Florence and the Machine:

Sometimes it seems that the going is just too rough
And things go wrong no matter what I do
Now and then it seems that life is just too much
But you've got the love I need to see me through


You got the love ladies! x
 
Hi everyone :hi:

Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU for all the kind words (and naughty ones too!).

We're waiting for an appointment with our consultant to go over the cycle, but it sounds like the sperm that survived the thaw weren't great, which makes me wonder why on earth risk using 9 mature eggs if they didn't think the sample was great? Urgh.

This was an NHS cycle, so I'm not sure what we're going to do next because of the cost. It's not just the ICSI cycle we'd have to pay for, but also DH's surgery. With that surgery, there's no guarantee they'll find any sperm and what they might find might not even be useable. Generally the sperm at that stage are too immature - we joked that our samples are extensions of our relationship (my being shy of seven years older than him). So why my eggs are knitting watching 'Countdown', his sperm are finger-painting and singing nursery rhymes!

I reckon they might suggest using a donor, but it doesn't sit well with husband. He also doesn't really want to go under the knife again.. he wants a miracle that isn't going to happen.

Sorry for the 'ME' post, I'm in a real funk at the moment. I promise to be less whingey in my next post.

Love and :hugs:

C xx
 
Hi everyone :hi:

Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU for all the kind words (and naughty ones too!).

We're waiting for an appointment with our consultant to go over the cycle, but it sounds like the sperm that survived the thaw weren't great, which makes me wonder why on earth risk using 9 mature eggs if they didn't think the sample was great? Urgh.

This was an NHS cycle, so I'm not sure what we're going to do next because of the cost. It's not just the ICSI cycle we'd have to pay for, but also DH's surgery. With that surgery, there's no guarantee they'll find any sperm and what they might find might not even be useable. Generally the sperm at that stage are too immature - we joked that our samples are extensions of our relationship (my being shy of seven years older than him). So why my eggs are knitting watching 'Countdown', his sperm are finger-painting and singing nursery rhymes!

I reckon they might suggest using a donor, but it doesn't sit well with husband. He also doesn't really want to go under the knife again.. he wants a miracle that isn't going to happen.

Sorry for the 'ME' post, I'm in a real funk at the moment. I promise to be less whingey in my next post.

Love and :hugs:

C xx


Tiger - first :hugs: :hugs: and giant :hugs:
second there is no such thing as a me post - there are posts where you need to let it out - and that's the point of the forum.
you are in such a difficult position right now, and I have no advice for you. but hopefully when you see the consultant, he will be able to lay out the options for you and then you can discuss them. Did they use all of DH's tissue sample on this cycle?

oh hun - I am so sorry this happened, it's not blood fair!

thinking of you xxxxx
 
Tiger-I so agree with Purps, there is no such thing as a 'Me' post. Rant away, you've been through an awful experience, and still have no answers, which is truly the pits. Make sure you keep the water intake up, btw, to help you flush the toxins from all the stimms drugs.

Ho hum. Donor sperm... perhaps something that you can researh with your DH, and leave it out there for him to throw it around in his head and see how he feels about it all after some mulling over.

What would get me down, is the fact that the embryologist is speculating about the sperm quality. Such a pity that they didn't test sperm quality first, using the IMSI procedure, but that's probably the NHS wanting to keep their costs low (albeit IMSI is only a couple of hundred quid more). Is the doc saying that none of DH's sperm could be any good? Or, banking on there being a few good ones in there? All questions to write down in prep for your consult.

I am so very sorry that this happened to you lovely, and it beggars belief that this is the outcome. There is no rhyme nor reason to any of the issues surrounding infertility. In the meantime, I shall send you a massive virtual hug and know that we are all thinking about you and so hoping that you get some answers soon. Lots and lots of love, Amandaxxxxxxx
:hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
Oh boy. I cannot pretend to catch up and know what's going on. I just wanted to stop in and say "hi" and I'm thinking about you all.
 
:hi: dash, fro, asry

pad - I love, love, love that song!

tiger - totally agreed with purps and dwrgi re "me-post". Super big :hugs: Take care of yourself :flower:

:wohoo: It's Friday!

Have a fabulous weekend lovely ladies!
 
Tiger - do not worry about any "me" posts! We are all here to help each other and I know for a fact that I've had my share of "me" posts in the past. Sending you big :hug:!

Purple - Thank you so much for the positive words! I'm keeping my fingers crossed... ;)

I hope everyone is having a wonderful Friday -- I'm definitely looking forward to the weekend! We have a Greek festival to attend tomorrow (lilsluz?), so lots of good Greek food and definitely some baklava!

:hugs: and :dust: :dust: :dust:!!
 
Hi nikki!! Long time no see! How are you doing chick? Not long for you left, big :hugs:
 
Hi ladies!

Pad - re: Sepia - I've never used it myself but I am a big fan of homeopathic remedies... I use the pellets under tongue for allergies and they seem to help a bit (not Sepia - a different one that is a combo for Allergies) You can get them at a health food store usually. They are generally safe to use even with other meds with no side effects. I also use "Mag Phos" (tissue salts) for menstrual cramps (4 pellets under the tongue)... I give homeopathic stuff to AD too when she is coming down with a cold - and even for teething... It totally works.
Just go to the health food store and ask there.:hugs::kiss:

Tiger - oh hun wish I could do/say something to make it better.... :hugs::kiss: I hope you get some good advice from the doc.... although that does seem strange that they would use all 9 mature eggs if they knew the sample wasn't great?! Couldn't they have frozen some of the eggs? I know they weren't embryos... but they are doing it now where they freeze woman's eggs so they can use them at a later time in life.
sending you big squishy :hugs::hugs:

KSluice - I'm so sorry again hun.....:hugs::hugs::hugs:

Dwrgi - how are you hun???! any plans for the weekend?:hugs::kiss:

Purps - getting any sleep lately? hope you have nice plans too...:hugs::kiss:

Lils and Fro - praying that the hurricane swoops far away from FL!!! stay safe.. thinking of you :hugs::hugs::kiss::kiss:

Nikki - wow 36 weeks already!!! glad to see you again on here.... hope all is well and your LO arrives safely soon....:hugs:

Owl - Hi !!:flower::winkwink:

Grkprn - enjoy the Greek festival!!! yum - baklava... my In-laws are Turkish (ok I know the Greeks/Turks don't get along traditionally :dohh:) but they also make baklava.... I love greek food :hugs:

AFM - think I'm ov today :thumbup:.... we DTD last night and will try again tonight hopefully if all goes well..... really after 10 years you would think I would have given up by now.:dohh:... but no I keep chuggin on for some strange reason :shrug:. Plus I'm trying to think positive that maybe something will happen after my HSG... :haha: just realized I'll be 11DPO when I go see the RE on Sept 4 - wouldn't it be heaven on earth if I woke up that morning to a +HPT??? Okay - a girl can dream no???:haha::haha::winkwink:

Hello and hugs to everyone I missed! Hope everyone has a great weekend:hugs::hugs::hugs::kiss::kiss:

Baby dust all over the world !!!:dust::dust::dust:
 
Hi ladies!

Grkprn - enjoy the Greek festival!!! yum - baklava... my In-laws are Turkish (ok I know the Greeks/Turks don't get along traditionally :dohh:) but they also make baklava.... I love greek food :hugs:

AFM - think I'm ov today :thumbup:.... we DTD last night and will try again tonight hopefully if all goes well..... really after 10 years you would think I would have given up by now.:dohh:... but no I keep chuggin on for some strange reason :shrug:. Plus I'm trying to think positive that maybe something will happen after my HSG... :haha: just realized I'll be 11DPO when I go see the RE on Sept 4 - wouldn't it be heaven on earth if I woke up that morning to a +HPT??? Okay - a girl can dream no???:haha::haha::winkwink:

Hello and hugs to everyone I missed! Hope everyone has a great weekend:hugs::hugs::hugs::kiss::kiss:

Baby dust all over the world !!!:dust::dust::dust:

No worries dashka! I have some very good friends who are Turkish! And yes, they do make some delicious baklava!! :thumbup:

Sending you lots of :hugs: and :dust: for the OV today! Like I mentioned earlier, my CBFM decided not to give me a peak day, but FF rightfully disagrees! We shall see....:wacko:
 
Hi ladies!! Happy Friday!! :happydance:

LilSluz - Please stay safe from hurricane Isaac!!! I see it on the radar - hope you're in or can get to a safe area.

Dashka - Hope the accupuncture goes/went well. I'd love to hear about your experience with it if you feel like giving details later. How do you feel afterwards? I've heard it's wonderful for energy and stress relief (and baby making)!! Toxoplasmosis is the reason why pregnant women ask their OH to scoop the litter box! I think doggies are less likely to get it or pass it along to their owners so that is good news!!

Asryellah - thanks for posting the info on the homeopathic things you're using. The ladies here are such a great resource of information - I love it!!

Dashka and Purplelou - thanks, I just wish I didn't have to wait this month out. I just hope I'm not being "too cautious" and missing an opportunity. If this month is like the others, I'm supposed to ovulate sometime in the next 3 days... and I can feel little twingey-cramps so I know it's coming. But I guess it's better to be safe than sorry, expecially if toxo was what our kitty had (and I think there's a pretty good chance that's what it was).

Padbrat - I love your posts about the songs... they're so happy and positive.

Tigerlily - thanks for sharing, and big huge :hugs: to you. I hope the follow up appointment is helpful. I'm 37 and my DH is 29, so we have pretty similar ages/differences with our OH's. Take care :hugs:

Owl - I love your username. I absolutely love owls... I even have an owl necklace pendant that my mom gave me. :D

Grkprn - One of my best friends is Greek... she's given me a bunch of her family's recipes, and yum, yum yuuuummm!! Enjoy the festival!!

Happy Bank Holiday Purplelou and the rest of the UK'ers!

Hi to everyone else and H&H days/months to the ladies due soon!

AFM - I'll have to live through the rest of you for the next month until I get to next cycle. It is so hard sitting this one out.
:dust:
 
YAAAYY I got my computer back! :happydance: Sorry, but idk how some of you can mobile BNB bc it was a real PITA - kept having to resize the screens, hitting the wrong links, & then typing :wacko: fugeddaboudat! I gave up…

Janey – You may want to chart, honey. It will track your cycles in case they do get wacky & it puts all of your symptoms together to show when it thinks you will O, as well. Between the EWCM, +OPK & temp changes, you’ll be a pro & know exactly what your body is doing at all times. Or if for some reason your chart would ever show a few months of irregularity, you would want to go get some testing done for issues which are famous for making your temps go crazy – thyroid, PCOS & whatever else. And when you did go to see an RE, if that is in your future, your chart will show them how your cycles run & etc. Sorry if I said this before, I don’t want to sound like a broken record! CD18 is not too late. I O on CD20-21. Most sites say that this is OK, but I have recently read some studies which suggested that mc rates were way higher for people who didn’t O btw CD13 – CD17, so I am going to try vitex to see if it helps me just bc I tend to mc… But if this is the only month you O’d CD18, I wouldn’t worry about it at all & even if you always O’d CD18, I’d prob not worry :flower: & :dust:

DrH – Argh, sorry link didn’t work, they must have done some re-routing, so I searched on the topic (no need to sign up!) & here it is again: https://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=226042.0 Hope you are doing well & wow on 20g carbs! That’s SO hard! Just remember (as you prob know) if you are going to diet just make sure you get nutrition that may be missed on low-carb diet (& as you know, that diet is only supposed to be temporary to drop weight fast, but then slowly get back to eating nutritionally if you can). As you can probably tell by now, dashka is really good when it comes to Nutrition :winkwink::haha: GL! :thumbup:

Dash – you have so much passion about Nutrition – I hope one day you can do that as your dream job bc it resally suits you. Oh & quinoa recipe looks super-yum so I copied into my new Dashka Recipe file. :winkwink: Hmmm, your chart is diff this month! I see you got +OPK – so maybe you O’d CD12 even if its not a huge dip, maybe you O’d quickly after??? :dust: I didn’t get to view the link, but you should definitely nurture yrouself & take me-time every single day – at least 1-2 hrs,I like that! And hoping you get a sticky post-HSG bean too, that would be FAB on morning of appt!!! :hugs:

Moondust – You may want to take folate in addition to your 400mcg folic acid. As we get older, some of have malabsorption, methylation issues or other issues so we have to take 5mg to absorb it properly. You will pee out anything yoru body doesn’t use/need as with all B Vits. Hey, also see my post to janey about charting – it’s super easy, free (unless you want VIP version $45/yr?) & you will get to know so much about your body & cycles (it tracks everything – moods, symptoms, meds, etc). You’ll learn very quickly how to tell when you are about to O & then tell if you really DID O (you can get +OPK & not even O sometimes). :flower: (PS, just read about toxo :grr: that sux!)

Pad – I felt you calling! :haha: Yum your recipe sounds really good too! I think we can all pretend like airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars as we could all use a wish right now!!! (love that song) But like Dashka says (cracked me up) no falling allowed!!! Love the new PMA you have! Btw, where are you in your cycle, wasn’t AF due a few days ago???!!!

Dwrgi – So glad you had a great heart-to-heart w/OH.:thumbup: Take your time & enjoy yourself for a while. To load photos go to the Advanced screen, look right under the text box & you’ll see Additional Options. Click on “Manage Attachments”, choose your file & then hit Upload (but you may have to full screen to see it, as that confused me in beginning). Hope you are doing well honey & taking care of yourself & having a lil fun before you do more time :hugs:::kiss:

Chicken – I just got to see your chart?! :wacko: I’m so sorry, it looks like you are right & you didn’t O? :hugs: (or maybe it could be you may major estro dominance or progesterone deficiency)? You may want to go get Day 21 (+/- depending on cycle) bloods done next month as your temp definitely dropped it just didn’t shoot up past cover? And I know last month you were in hot climates for first part, but your 2nd part was still way lower then your avg temps this month & they should be quite higher than your avg (36-ish) that you can see from this month? That’s just what I see & it’s just a suggestion but it’s also possible that if you did have a chem in July it could mess up the next cycle. The rainbow & shooting stars sound incredible & I didn’t know that was possible!!! I like to think that maybe it’s a sign so hoping it is a sign of good things to come to you whether it’s this cycle or next couple cycles!!! :hugs:

BF – I love the :brat:! Reminds me of me in the morning :haha: I hope you are doing fab, that the renos are coming along & that back it behaving!!! Big luvs coming your way – I shall catch up on your journal soon!

FlyF – Glad you are mellowing out now. We all get excited in the beginning & then there’s like this “settle in period” for those of us who weren’t so lucky. Each person views it & takes it differently, so hard to know what would be next. But a more relaxed outlook is definitely better!!! :dust:

Asry – I am going to have to google those things you mentioned also! If Molkoson is like probiotic (& espec if it’s cheaper) I’m so getting it, thanks! :thumbup: How’s the house-hunting going? Hope you are doing well! :hugs:

Nessaw – Argh, what a PITA!!! Hope you get yoru apt soon honey & :dust:!

Grk Porn – Yeah that mucinex works wonders right?! So glad as that is so important! I have to give it to you, every other day for 10 days but every day around O – whew! I’m exhausted just thinking about your plan! :haha::thumbup: Btw, you def O’d & I have heard of not getting Peaks on CBFM for first 1-2 months as it is learning about you, so defin pay attn. to the other signs – EWCM & temp drop :thumbup: Oh – Greek festival sounds YUMdeliumptious! Have ot admit – I have never tried baklava :saywhat:. Dinner is so filling I can’t eat even ½ as it is!


Fro – I developed a theory that if we are in the Cone of Death from the outset & if we prepare even just a little, a hurricane will never come! :haha: It’s the sneakers that get you… I guess the center will pass just under us (so far) – yay! (course that may change 15 more trimes) What they don’t tell you is the winds extend out 200 mi from “the center” so now we’ll “only” have to deal with 50mph winds, floods & tornadoes – no probs! :haha: That’s still very windy & we have to do some prep BUT the really good news is when a hurricane misses you & you have a really strong TS, it is just the Florida tradition…HURRICANE PARTAY!!!!! :wohoo::rain::happydance::drunk::wine::beer::munch::haha: (I’ll have one for you) Hope you’re doing well, stay safe & dry, & thanks for checking in & thinking of us :hugs:.

Purps – Yay for bank holiday for you & UK ladies!!! How many national hols do you guys have? Have fun sweetie & thank you, I’ll be safe!

Tiger – gosh, I can’t believe they didn’t test the :spermy: first too?! Ugh, you have some tough decisions & no such things as me-posts, all I can do is send you some really big :hugs::kiss:

Nikki - :hi: honey – not long for you now – yay!

:hi: everyone else!!!

OK, I’m pooping out, now! Just prepping for TS now (yay!!!) & FF moved my crosshairs but I think it will move them back when temp goes back up. I confuse it as I always dip 3-4 DPO (pregs or ov) so it’ll prob move them (but just in case, I did cover that day too!). How cute DH comes to me at “former” 2DPO “so, did we make a baby”? :haha: He’s starting to get a tad bit “interested” in it now…after 20 months TTC… that's ok no hurry or anything, eggs just getting older by the month! :haha:

Thank you all for the well-wishes!!! Big xoxoxoxo's
 
Thanks Lils I really appreciate your input, if anyone else would like to have a look and let me know what you think I would appreciate that to. I think I will see how I go next cycle and then if it is the same I will go and see my GP. Thanks again.
 
Hey Lils!

You heard me! And everyone else calling you! LOL

How do you keep track of it all?? Honestly I don't even know when AF was due.. again cos I am a dufus... but you are of course right...I am now on CD 33 and no sign so far. Am gonna hold out and not test until Thurs as my longest ever cycle was CD 35 and that should take me past that... Pffssstst to it all I say!!

Where abouts are you in FL? Top? Bottom? Middle?....

Dwrgi! Gorgeous to meet you chick!!
 
Hey Lils!

You heard me! And everyone else calling you! LOL

How do you keep track of it all?? Honestly I don't even know when AF was due.. again cos I am a dufus... but you are of course right...I am now on CD 33 and no sign so far. Am gonna hold out and not test until Thurs as my longest ever cycle was CD 35 and that should take me past that... Pffssstst to it all I say!!

Where abouts are you in FL? Top? Bottom? Middle?....

Dwrgi! Gorgeous to meet you chick!!

I have no idea how I remember stuff, my mind is just weird - remembers the strangest things forever & ever, but I can't remember what I did a couple days ago!? :dohh::wacko: Honey, you are dufulicious, don't you forget that! :coolio::winkwink: I'm a big dork, so don't worry you have company! :fool: (Dorktastic? Dorkalicious?) :haha: :hugs:

CD33, I am going to keep everything crossed for you hun!!! :thumbup::winkwink: Please give us a pretty pink lil Padbrat! :flower:

[Oh - I'm just a little up (50mi?) from the southern tip on the East Coast (about a mile from the beach).]

:hugs:
 
Hey you Hurricane Partying girl :happydance::happydance: Molkosan is probiotic yes, and my reflexologist (she is also homeopath) suggested it for me if my PH-levels were something that killed the :spermy:..I got the liquid kind which tastes like :sick: yuck :wacko:! But it has good "side-effects" with digestion, and lots of ppl use it to support their losing weight diet.
Pad - I got Sepia also from my reflexologist and info how much&how often to take 'em

Have a beautiful day you all :flower:
 

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