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[Comfycushions]

Nobump, glad the op went well, fingers crossed it will have sorted things out for you. Really hope you get an af free holiday.

Lizzie sorry to hear you've been struggling.
Also sorry to hear your cycle twin Aurora is having a hard time of things. Lots of love to both of you.

Hi nikki, welcome. Hope your hysteroscopy is able to give you some answers. Sorry for what you've been through.

Afm, I've discovered the pregnant instructor from the preggo yoga class of doom has gone on mat leave and the class has been rebranded as body sculpting yoga. I've signed myself up for tomorrow but might chicken out-don't want to risk heading back into depression if it's still full of baby bumps but if they've all gone to have their babies too it could be a good class and excise some demons from that whole awful experience. Hmm, decisions, decisions!

 

[beneathmywing]

Just want to say I've been reading along and sending hugs to everyone Sorry we are all still having a hard time. I too still get my days.

I had my nurse appt today though, so I finally feel like I am doing something now! AF should be here on the 21st-ish and I start my FET cycle. I am doing a medicated cycle so it's 5-6 weeks and lotssss of medsss! But it's okay.

I was also diagnosed with high NK cells when doing my autoimmune work up, so I'll be doing an Intralipid infusion via IV a week before transfer.

 

[Nikki of NZ]

Thank you ladies for being so welcoming. I am curious if any of you have tried any natural alternatives in between cycles? I have been reading a lot about castor oil packs and with not knowing exactly what's wrong it's seems to be a good overall option and if nothing else it's a good excuse to relax for an hour 😊

 

[lizzie78]

Comfy - you are so brave, no chance at all i would set foot back there even if it had been rebranded lol. Let us know how it goes if you do brave it x

BMW, wow not long until it starts again. How are you feeling about it? My last cycle was a medicated FET, I couldnt believe there were more drugs than with a fresh cycle lol.

Nikki, I havent heard of that one although I thought I had tried it all! Really if it wont don you any harm then why not, sometimes we just need to know that we did everything we could. What is it that you do with the castor oil?

Hope everyone has had a peaceful weekend. I have a thumping headache but am feeling smug as I've spent the whole time doing my assignments for a diploma I'm doing. Working full time its hard to fit it in and my next module starts in a month so I was a bit up against it. Treating myself now, roast pork is in the oven ready for a full on sunday lunch when DH gets back from golf. If only I hadnt drunk all the wine I would treat myself to a glass of that too! xxx

 

[beneathmywing]

Comfy - you are so brave, no chance at all i would set foot back there even if it had been rebranded lol. Let us know how it goes if you do brave it x

BMW, wow not long until it starts again. How are you feeling about it? My last cycle was a medicated FET, I couldnt believe there were more drugs than with a fresh cycle lol.

Nikki, I havent heard of that one although I thought I had tried it all! Really if it wont don you any harm then why not, sometimes we just need to know that we did everything we could. What is it that you do with the castor oil?

Hope everyone has had a peaceful weekend. I have a thumping headache but am feeling smug as I've spent the whole time doing my assignments for a diploma I'm doing. Working full time its hard to fit it in and my next module starts in a month so I was a bit up against it. Treating myself now, roast pork is in the oven ready for a full on sunday lunch when DH gets back from golf. If only I hadnt drunk all the wine I would treat myself to a glass of that too! xxx

I am getting excited -- but trying to tame that excitement as I know there is no guarantee in all this! I will be on a lottt of meds. BCP for 10 days, Lupron, Femara, Prednisone, Folic Acid, Fish Oil, Vitamin, Doxy before transfer and a few days after, Progesterone and doing an Intralipid infusion a week before transfer!! I think that's it... lol

Hope your headache is better!! Enjoy your Sunday with DH =)

 

[Nikki of NZ]

I was told about it by a friend who uses it to keep her PCOS under control.
It's used to detox not just the reproductive organs but is really good for liver and kidneys aswell, it helps to remove possible scar tissue and create a good blood flow to encourage healthy growth of new tissue, it's an anti inflammatory and rapid healer. All you do is soak a flannel in castor oil, fold it in half and place it over your abdomen, put a piece of plastic over it that's just bigger than the flannel(I just cut out a square from a shopping bag) put a hot water bottle on top of that and relax for an hour. Keep your castor oil flannel in a container in the fridge and it can be reused with the same oil for the entire process which is 3days on 3days off for 3weeks. You aren't supposed to do it during AF or if there's a possibility of pregnancy. I gave it a go, unfortunately it's another one of those things that you have no idea if it's making a difference but yes I do feel if there's no harm that can come of it I have to try everything!
I've read it can also be used to increase sperm count in males by putting it directly on the testicles and letting it soak in for a bit, without heat of course, but there is a lot less information about that side out there so I'm not 100% sure.

 

[lizzie78]

I've read it can also be used to increase sperm count in males by putting it directly on the testicles and letting it soak in for a bit, without heat of course, but there is a lot less information about that side out there so I'm not 100% sure.

Lizzie wanders off looking for Castor oil for Mr Lizzie before realising he would likely divorce her if she asked him to do one more thing with his boys I'd say go for it Nikki, it will keep you occupied at least

BMW, you're phone alarm won't know what's hit it with all those lol. I found the hardest thing that I had stuff being staggered through the day, I always seemed to be having to take something!

xxx

 

[nobump]

Hi Nikki. I tried caster oil for a little while. Just went to bed a little earlier. Often fell asleep with it on. Not sure if it helped. Don't think DH would agree to using it. I was using it for my fibroid.

Cc hope your new yoga class works out.

Bmw good luck for FET.

Lizzie congrats on getting through your coursework.

AFM now on hols. Made it down to london. On train further south now. Forgot how stagnant the underground is.

Went to a fostering info day at the weekend. Got some info to look through. Trying to work out next move.

Xxx

Xxx

 

[Jaybo]

Hi ladies!

Welcome to our little thread Nikki, although sorry you find yourself here. Sounds like you have been through a lot Hope you get some answers soon.

Lizzie I said it before on the other thread but it’s so nice to hear from you -although I understand how difficult it can be to read the updates on here sometimes. I can’t remember if you said before but have you tried counselling? I struggled so much after my last failed cycle that I’ve decided that I can’t go through it again without speaking to someone (professional) about it. I’m starting with the therapy at the clinic next week.

Comfy – I agree, you’re very brave to return to the dreaded yoga class. Hope it goes well and all the super fertile ladies have found somewhere else to hang out!

Nobump – enjoy you’re holidays! I’m on the underground most days so I can vouch for how stagnant it is! Hope it’s more pleasant further south. We’re due lots of sunshine this week so you’ve picked a good time to be away. Hope the info from the fostering day is helpful in figuring your next steps.

MrsW – I hope you’re doing ok and just busy with the move.

AFM – I start downregging again next weekend. I can’t believe how quickly it’s come around. I’m terrified, or excited, I don’t know anymore!!

Beneath not long for you now either. Keeping everything crossed that the changes to your protocol do the trick.

 

[Comfycushions]

The preggos had left the yoga class! It was quite an intense class so didn't have time for my mind to wander back to that hideous session. Glad I went.

Nobump hope you have a brilliant holiday.

Bmw good luck with all those meds and your upcoming cycle.

Nikki, I've never tried the castor oil thingy but do have s bottle. It crossed my mind when I read your post to get DH to try it. I suspect he might not go for it though. Lizzie your post on that front made me chuckle!

Jaybo wow back on the downreg wagon next week. Good luck.

Lizzie well done on doing your assignments and cooking a roast reward.

We've ordered some fertilsan m. Going to do an sa in 3 months and see if it's had any effect. I really, really hope so but not really expecting it to and trying to temper my hopes.

 

[Nikki of NZ]

No bump- it's a hard thing to know if it's making a difference but I'm finding it relaxing so that alone feels right and to think there's a possibility it could be helping puts my mind in a better place.
Good luck with your next move, wherever that may take you I wish you all the best!

Lizzy & Comfy- My DH has a low count although with ICSI it doesn't have an affect on our chances. I got him to try the castor oil once, he hasn't seemed keen to do it again. I can't imagine it would be very comfortable and have the same relaxing affect it does for me so I won't hold it against him, I may mention it and see what reaction I get haha

Looking forward to reading how you are all going - hopefully there will be positive things for everyone in the near future xx

 

[lizzie78]

Jaybo - Wow, next weekend! Are you feeling match fit? Got everything crossed for you that this is your turn! I did look into counselling but couldnt find any fertility counsellors near to where I live and the drive to my clinic would potentially negate any benefit. That said, it's still something on my mind, I might see whether I can find somewhere near work instead and hope it doesnt mean I sob my way home on the train afterwards.

nobump - hope you have a lovely holiday x

Comfy - glad the bumps had left the building and you had a good class

xxx

 

[Jaybo]

Not sure about match fit Lizzy but possibly ready for the subs bench!

 

[lizzie78]

Jaybo

 

[optimistic13]

Hey everyone please could I join you ... Got bfn yesterday (1st cycle) ... Feeling broken x x

 

[Jaybo]

Hi optimistic, I'm so sorry to hear your cycle didn't work Its just heartbreaking. I hope you are doing ok.

Feel free to rant away on this thread. We're here to support each other through the hard times. xx

 

[optimistic13]

Thank u jaybo )

Really struggling to be ok.
Feel broken.
This infertility struggle is the hell....
I said to hubby yesterday....

I feel like a puzzle, but very everytime you put it back together it's missing pieces.

We are awaiting a follow appointment and can start cycle 2 on my next period.. (Not this bleed now).
It's good news but isn't what we wanted. (

 

[lizzie78]

Hi Optimistic, just wanted to say hello, sorry you find yourself here but as Jaybo said feel free to rant away and get things off your chest if you need to. Are you doing another fresh cycle or a FET? xxx

 

[optimistic13]

Hi Lizzie.... Thank u it's rough isn't it.
It'll be a fresh cycle we unfortunately didn't have any frozen embies, we only had a 3, I had two transferred, the other wasn't progressing enough.

Another round of icsi (

 

[Jaybo]

Optimistic, it really is tough and takes time to recover from a failed cycle. I know it's a bit cliche but I really wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

We only had three eggs and one embryo on our last cycle, so no frosties either. It is difficult to face the prospect of another full cycle, and it's not for everyone to keep putting themselves through treatment, but I'm starting to feel more positive about things now.

Hope everyone else is doing okay today