Dealing with azoospermia?

[sharon99]

Just popping in to say GOOD LUCK on Tuesday, Gem! Fingers crossed! And the no social media sounds like a wonderful idea! I was just talking with a fertility-challenged friend last night & said that the worst is when someone announces a pregnancy, and then announces a really stupid name for the baby.

Olive, good luck on the start of next cycle! So they do an ultrasound at the very beginning of your cycle?

Happy weekend, everyone!

 

[Rainbow123]

Just popping in to say GOOD LUCK on Tuesday, Gem! Fingers crossed! And the no social media sounds like a wonderful idea! I was just talking with a fertility-challenged friend last night & said that the worst is when someone announces a pregnancy, and then announces a really stupid name for the baby.

Olive, good luck on the start of next cycle! So they do an ultrasound at the very beginning of your cycle?

Happy weekend, everyone!

Regarding the stupid names for babies, a couple that live near us - who accidentally conceived their child - called him Ziggy! What will they call their next child... Zaggy?

So glad it's the weekend, bring on the booze!

XXX

 

[Mikihob]

Just popping in to say GOOD LUCK on Tuesday, Gem! Fingers crossed! And the no social media sounds like a wonderful idea! I was just talking with a fertility-challenged friend last night & said that the worst is when someone announces a pregnancy, and then announces a really stupid name for the baby.

Olive, good luck on the start of next cycle! So they do an ultrasound at the very beginning of your cycle?

Happy weekend, everyone!

Especially news like Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's accidental pregnancy and then they name their baby North West. I think North is a cute, unique name but seriously?? You can't research potential baby names without seeing that.

 

[sharon99]

The worst one in my circle (also an accidental pregnancy) is "Doctor". Yes, first name Doctor. I get it, you're a Doctor Who fan, but that's what middle names are for!!!

Yes, bring on the booze!

 

[Stinas]

Weird names are soooo annoying to hear! Like really people….think of this poor kid that will have to explain its parents stupidity for their whole life.

 

[gem10]

So hubby had his mTESE today, and it did not go as we expected. Last time the embryologist took it back to the lab/office and searched and searched and found sperm. This time he "combed it" for an hour, and found nothing. I guess he had to leave to go do transfers at another clinic. So they put the tissue in an incubator overnight and they will look again in the morning. Has anyone ever heard of this? Has anyone ever had success 24 hours after mTESE? I'm freaking out because I guess we just expected them to find something this time because we had success last time. But now they are telling me I need to decide tonight about back up donor. I'm really not ready for this. I was SO excited to be pregnant, but now that this has popped up I almost want to tell them to freeze my eggs and we will try again in the summer. But, then what if they don't find anything again and these stellar eggs that I've been working on for three months are no good after thawing.

I don't know, I guess I need some words of advice or encouragement from people who know and understand. When you made the decision for donor, did it feel right in your heart? Did you just know? Or was it a tough decision? My husband is on board and super supportive of anything I want to do. I just want him to be happy too, I wanted him to have a baby with his genes. But he is saying no matter what it will be ours.

I'm all over the place. I'm sorry, I just am totally thrown off and confused. Hubby is sleeping, I am trying to prepare for possibly being out of work for three days next week, and mentally preparing for retrieval tomorrow. Just a mess.

 

[arzoo]

Oh so sorry to hear the bad news Gem. I was really looking forward to your success story to give me strength. We are only going to have the MTese in March.so cannot provide you any suggestion. But regarding donor. I am not ready yet and if we are unlucky then I will ask them to freeze my eggs. If the doctor gives us hope that another time we might b lucky then we will try MTese another time. I fear I will never be in a state to accept the donor route.

 

[Stinas]

Gem - Im sorry you didn't get the news you wanted! Its frustrating! When we did our TESE July 2012, the Urologist that did it found 2 sperm……we were devastated! Next day I got a phone call from the IVF clinic telling me we had 3 vials of sperm to use for IVF, all mostly from the tissue.
I didn't use donor, but after our MC in May, DH wanted to go directly to donor, but I wanted to try again with our last couple embryos we had. If that didn't work, then I was ready for donor. Thankfully it did.
If you are not ready for donor, freeze your eggs and do it when you feel the time is right. If your not 100%, you really should not do it.

 

[bubumaci]

Gem, I am so sorry you don't have results yet. In my opinion, if the clinic is OK with freezing, then they must have some experience with it? Perhaps, like for Stinas, they will find enough in the tissue.

Either way - I would not make a hasty decision about anything / go with something I am not 100% sure about. Unless you feel completely at ease with a decision, I would wait!

 

[BrandyRelax]

Gem - I know how you feel. My hubby had the same thing. They found a few sperm in the first sample, and none in the second. They did find more in the tissue in the fist sample than they thought they would.
For donor sperm, it is something that takes some discussion before you'd be okay with it. And at this stage, you would need to pick out a donor today, which is far too rushed, in my opinion. Do what is right, but ultimately, when we settled on donor sperm, it was looking at it as half adoption.

 

[Mikihob]

So hubby had his mTESE today, and it did not go as we expected. Last time the embryologist took it back to the lab/office and searched and searched and found sperm. This time he "combed it" for an hour, and found nothing. I guess he had to leave to go do transfers at another clinic. So they put the tissue in an incubator overnight and they will look again in the morning. Has anyone ever heard of this? Has anyone ever had success 24 hours after mTESE? I'm freaking out because I guess we just expected them to find something this time because we had success last time. But now they are telling me I need to decide tonight about back up donor. I'm really not ready for this. I was SO excited to be pregnant, but now that this has popped up I almost want to tell them to freeze my eggs and we will try again in the summer. But, then what if they don't find anything again and these stellar eggs that I've been working on for three months are no good after thawing.

I don't know, I guess I need some words of advice or encouragement from people who know and understand. When you made the decision for donor, did it feel right in your heart? Did you just know? Or was it a tough decision? My husband is on board and super supportive of anything I want to do. I just want him to be happy too, I wanted him to have a baby with his genes. But he is saying no matter what it will be ours.

I'm all over the place. I'm sorry, I just am totally thrown off and confused. Hubby is sleeping, I am trying to prepare for possibly being out of work for three days next week, and mentally preparing for retrieval tomorrow. Just a mess.

Hi gem. My DH is currently on month two of a three month FSH/HCG injection cycle. He will do a second three month cycle starting in March and do a final SA in June. He has decided, with my support, that he doesn't want to do the mTESE because the idea of surgery "down there" freaks him out. He is worried about side effects, infections, or the high probability that nothing will be found. He suggested adoption. I brought up donor sperm. I let him know that I WANT to experience the pregnancy. Some women want babies and don't mind if they don't carry them or not, but I want to. They have these cool face match programs now at some sperm banks that allow you to upload a pic of your DH and they will send you results with Low, Med, and High matches.

DH and I are planning on going through Fairfax Cryobank. We have already done a search and have a couple of High and Med matches. If his SA in March comes back zero, than we will pay $294 to have unlimited access for a year plus a free vial. They have consultants who can look at your DH's picture and the donor's and help you see if it is close and what the outcome might be.

Going the donor route is a hard decision. It's not ideal, but sometimes it's the only option. I think the hardest part is deciding on whether or not to tell the babies about it.

Sigourney Weaver had it right with this comment from the movie Baby Mama, "There is no wrong way to make a family"

We are all here for you.

P.S. I watch Baby Mama, What to expect when you are expecting, and The Back-Up Plan A LOT. Kinda baby-centric.

 

[Rainbow123]

How frustrating for you Gem But don't lose hope! We've been told that a lot of the time they find sperm in the tissue in the next 24 hours.
DH and I have decided that we will be doing the mTESE but if they don't find any/we don't get many, we will be using donor sperm. To begin with donor sperm was completely out of the question for my husband and it felt totally wrong in my head too, but that was about 9 months ago now, and we've had a lot of time to think about it and come to the conclusion we have. I agree with the other ladies that you should wait until you are sure that donor sperm is the way you want to go, as you don't want to be feeling negatively about things when you are pregnant.

I love that Sigourney Weaver quote by the way! Thanks for sharing!

Love and hugs XXXXX

 

[rdleela]

Hi, Gem, I wanted to pop by and say I'm so sorry you got bad news this second go-around, and it must be really tough to make this decision now and so quickly, no matter which route you choose! I'm sorry I don't have any advice for you on the donor decision, but the girls have done a great job in answering you! Xoxo

 

[gem10]

Hello to all of you amazing women. I have been in some pain and out of commision today from the retrieval. But I could not go to bed without popping on to thank each and every one of you for your support. This was the only place I could turn yesterday and you all came through to give me advice and your experiences. I cannot thank you enough for that. We had some good news today. They retrieved 14 eggs from me and at the time of retrieval we had 7 sperm. Before we left the embryologist felt confident he could find enough sperm for each egg. While they did seem hesitant for me to use all of DH testicular sperm due to quality and precentage of success I was persistent that I wanted to give it all we had this time. My hubby is in a lot of pain and I cant see doing that again tp him. If it doesnt work this time I can accept donor route. We already picked a back up donor last summer, although I feel that none really looked like my hubby, so we went with the healthiest match instead. I pray that I get good news tomorrow and that those little eggs fertilize and bring me my baby. So I want to thank all of you for your words of advice and encouragement. And if I could ask for one more thing, say a prayer for us that this one works. Goodnight my amazing friends. Much love to you all.

 

[Stinas]

Gem - Thats great news!!! You and all our lovely Azoo ladies are always in my prayers!!!

 

[sharon99]

Oh Gem, what an emotional roller coaster you've been on!! I'm so glad they found some sperm! I will cross everything for you that your eggs fertilize. Big, big hugs for you and I'll pray that you get good news tomorrow!

Donor sperm was NOT an easy decision. For the first few months we talked about it, I had dreams that I was pregnant with a monster inside of me. But the more we've talked about it, I feel better and better about our decision. We just want a baby to love, and I think love is never a bad thing to bring to the world. Whether it has your husband's genetics, your genetics, a total stranger's genetics... you're bringing love and happiness into the world. Sigourney Weaver can do no wrong in my book- I love that quote! Mikihob, you are brave to watch all those baby movies! I avoid them like the plague, and I get mad when my favorite TV shows pop a pregnancy on me (like Scandal! But with a name like "Scandal", I guess pregnancies are to be expected.)

 

[bubumaci]

Oh, Gem - I am so glad to hear that they were able to give you some good news before you went home and my fingers are tightly crossed that you get some fantastic fertilisation news today!!
Rest up, let your body recuperate ... in a few days, you will be PUPO

 

[gem10]

Thank you so much ladies! I will keep you posted today, hopefully with more good news! Bubumaci, I didnt know what PUPO meant, just looked it up...what a great saying! Thats a good phrase to get me through the 2ww!

 

[Mikihob]

Thank you so much ladies! I will keep you posted today, hopefully with more good news! Bubumaci, I didnt know what PUPO meant, just looked it up...what a great saying! Thats a good phrase to get me through the 2ww!

I just looked it up too. I like it!

 

[arzoo]

Great news Gem, thrilled for you. Cant wait to hear the rest of the happy story. So glad for you. praying hard for you.. wishing you all the best