Ah-ha!!!!! This is where you have all been hiding out
I did not realise this thread was here and that it had been running so long
I have not had time to catch up with the previous posts yet but will make an effort to do so over the next few days.
Joni is now 6 weeks old
The BF has come along well but was looking for a bit of guidance from some of you ladies that are BF pro's &/or whose LO's have taken to it really naturally.
Some of you may know from the previous May babies thread that Joni was early and had an underdeveloped suck reflex so I was feeding her EBM by bottle and kept trying her on the booby on a regular basis. We are at a point now where her 10pm, 1am and 4am feeds are by bottle - approx timings as we feed on demand but she is generally a 2-3 hourly feeder) feeds. The early morning, day and evening feeds I try to do all on the booby asmuch as possible.
Where BF is concerned I let Joni take the lead so let her feed as long as she wants. When I give her EBM by the bottle she takes 3oz and I know that each booby more-or-less produces that much every 2-3hours going by the volumes I have been expressing . When she BF's I let her feed as long as she needs. Now sometimes she BF's until she is asleep and will eventually unlatch - this is great as afterwards she goes straight down for a really long sleep. My issue comes when she BF's and stays awake - she never seems to be full
I can let her drain one boob and move her onto the other and let her have the best part of 2 hours on the boobies and I know she is full as often she is a little sick. However, when I unlatch her she just screams and screams and shoves her little fists in her mouth which is her usual hunger cue. When I offer her the boob again there is no enthusiasm with her latch, she just kind of casually opens her mouth and licks my nipple or ,latchs and comes off again over and over (she is clean and winded, good temp etc) until she starts screaming. Often she will be screaming the house down and I will offer her the booby as she is giving me her hunger cues, she can have the nipple right in her mouth and she will root from side to side but will not close her mouth to latch
which makes me think she is not hungry right?
This can go on for hours and hours - this morning she fed really nicely from me for about 40 mins at 9am and then from 10am until 1pm did the whole nipple in the mouth refusing to latch but giving me hungry signs
My gut feeling is she is full and tired but just can't switch off and go to sleep? She fed really nicely at around 1pm (her usual feed time) for about 40-50 minutes and then we had the same odd behaviour for a good hour or more when eventually I swaddled her and held her tighly and she did then relent and go to sleep.
Oh - I should say that the crazy nipple in the mouth but not latching is only ever on my right boob. She is much better at latching my left boob, she can latch the right boob but it takes a couple of goes sometimes to get it just so as the nipple is much smaller and a bit flat on one side.
Now we don't get this behaviour when we give feeds of EBM by bottle - it is so tempting just to give in and do a bottle instead when she is like this but I really really really want to BF directly. Do you think it might be that BF is much harder work than the bottle and tires her out a bit and that as BF is much slower that she finds it hard to know when she is full as it is a gradual fullness compared to the speed of the bottle (when she takes a bottle it is gone within 6-10 minutes).
I am sorry if this does not make sense - I have only had about 5 hours sleep in the last 48
Usually hubby would take Joni in the evenings and/or cover a nightime bottle feed so I could get some kip but he is recovering from an operation and not able to help at all so I am flying solo as far as Joni is concerned and looking after hubby too. If anyone has any advice, feedback or guidance it would be much appreciated.