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Evening!
Well Roh's second night in his room was a disaster!
He never settled properly and i was in there every hour or so settling him down, until 1am, when he decided to wake up properly, and didn't go back to sleep until 4am, when i gave up and bought him through into our bed for the rest of the night (3 hours 
) Argh, so tired. I'm seriously hoping tonight will go better 
I'm not sure why he was so unsettled last night, and i suspect it didn't have anything to do with him being in his own room. Only thing is, if he was still in our bedroom i would have just lay down with him and had a feed and a cuddle until he was asleep again, and then if i hadn't fallen asleep myself, he'd go back in his cot. I can't do that now, as there is only a chaise longue in his room, and i draw the line at sleeping on the floor with him! Bleh, i guess we will both get used to it after a while 
Finally seem to have settled him tonight after 2 hours of trying keep your fingers crossed for my sleep tonight!
L-C - thanks for the tip i'll have to get down to the chemists
Modo / Sarah - I'm a chef, i have been for 12 years since i quit the film industry (couldn't get enough work, and everything got digital which wasn't really my skillset) I had my own restaurant for a few years, which was pretty successful in its way (as in, i made money) but then i had a breakdown, as i was working 90+ hours a week! I took this job with a local chain of cafes, and i was running there outside catering dept. Catering for weddings and business meetings etc. as it was a breeze compared to my old jobs. The role they've made for me now is that i produce all of the cakes/ muffins etc. for the 3 stores they have in Bristol, they save money, i can work reasonably flexible hours and its something i really enjoy doing, so its win win Only problem with it is the money isn't great, but then i already took a massive salary cut when i started working for them, so i knew what i was getting into.
H&F - Good luck with the job applications! Shame you have to look for something before christmas...i wish i'd organised myself better and gotten pregnant a month later, so i could have gone back to work in January instead
Sarah - I doubt you are doing anything wrong with Oliver!
its rubbish when you're up all night isn't it! I keep going back to what my SIL said to me a few months ago when Roh stopped sleeping through. She said, just don't change things, always stick to the same routine, sometimes it will work, some times it won't, but if you change things then you won't know what works and what doesn't anymore. If you do change anything, do it very gradually and do it for at least a few weeks before changing again. As for getting babies to sleep, i liked her advice, just do whatever it takes. If you can put them down and walk away one night and they drift off, great, if you have to hold them all night the next night to get them to have some sleep, then not great, but thats how it goes 
Its made me feel alot less stressed about departing from the sleep training when it seems neccessary. The only thing i can think of though is are you more worried about getting Oliver to sleep when Steve is home, do you feel more stressed about it, and are you expecting there to be problems? If you are then perhaps Oliver picks up on it, and that part of why he struggles to settle? Maybe stop worrying about it and that might help. I often find if i stop trying so hard to make Roh sleep, he often falls asleep easier, as i relax more
Oh well waffle waffle waffle from me tonight
to you all!
Well Roh's second night in his room was a disaster!
He never settled properly and i was in there every hour or so settling him down, until 1am, when he decided to wake up properly, and didn't go back to sleep until 4am, when i gave up and bought him through into our bed for the rest of the night (3 hours ) Argh, so tired. I'm seriously hoping tonight will go better I'm not sure why he was so unsettled last night, and i suspect it didn't have anything to do with him being in his own room. Only thing is, if he was still in our bedroom i would have just lay down with him and had a feed and a cuddle until he was asleep again, and then if i hadn't fallen asleep myself, he'd go back in his cot. I can't do that now, as there is only a chaise longue in his room, and i draw the line at sleeping on the floor with him! Bleh, i guess we will both get used to it after a while Finally seem to have settled him tonight after 2 hours of trying keep your fingers crossed for my sleep tonight!L-C - thanks for the tip i'll have to get down to the chemists
Modo / Sarah - I'm a chef, i have been for 12 years since i quit the film industry (couldn't get enough work, and everything got digital which wasn't really my skillset) I had my own restaurant for a few years, which was pretty successful in its way (as in, i made money) but then i had a breakdown, as i was working 90+ hours a week! I took this job with a local chain of cafes, and i was running there outside catering dept. Catering for weddings and business meetings etc. as it was a breeze compared to my old jobs. The role they've made for me now is that i produce all of the cakes/ muffins etc. for the 3 stores they have in Bristol, they save money, i can work reasonably flexible hours and its something i really enjoy doing, so its win win
Only problem with it is the money isn't great, but then i already took a massive salary cut when i started working for them, so i knew what i was getting into. H&F - Good luck with the job applications! Shame you have to look for something before christmas...i wish i'd organised myself better and gotten pregnant a month later, so i could have gone back to work in January instead
Sarah - I doubt you are doing anything wrong with Oliver!
its rubbish when you're up all night isn't it! I keep going back to what my SIL said to me a few months ago when Roh stopped sleeping through. She said, just don't change things, always stick to the same routine, sometimes it will work, some times it won't, but if you change things then you won't know what works and what doesn't anymore. If you do change anything, do it very gradually and do it for at least a few weeks before changing again. As for getting babies to sleep, i liked her advice, just do whatever it takes. If you can put them down and walk away one night and they drift off, great, if you have to hold them all night the next night to get them to have some sleep, then not great, but thats how it goes Its made me feel alot less stressed about departing from the sleep training when it seems neccessary. The only thing i can think of though is are you more worried about getting Oliver to sleep when Steve is home, do you feel more stressed about it, and are you expecting there to be problems? If you are then perhaps Oliver picks up on it, and that part of why he struggles to settle? Maybe stop worrying about it and that might help. I often find if i stop trying so hard to make Roh sleep, he often falls asleep easier, as i relax more Oh well waffle waffle waffle from me tonight
to you all!
I hope you have a better night tonight too!
He does have a rocking horse though from my MIL. I'm a bit annoyed with her to be honest though, because we really have nowhere we could fit it, so i don't even know how he'll be able to use it 
What fab advice from you sister in law, it's pretty much what we (I) do. 
H&F hope Amy is better today and you managed to get your job applications done, evening work sounds great, that’s what I am hoping to do! Hope you have a lovely weekend at your parents, we had our first Chinese since Will last night it was lush. We have only bought Will 3 things as he will be so spoilt by his grandparents, we are so skint and would rather go mad in the following years…. 
the sleep deprivation is making me very adept at it!
