The Beanstalkers (formally ttc buddy?)

[kasigirl]

Thanks for the refresh ladies! Hopefully not long until we get our bfps!

Rae, the high testosterone androgen index, is that the same as free androgen index? Cos my free androgen index was high. Hmmmm. But no cysts and regular cycles, all other hormones seemed normal but didnt test if i was definitely ovulating. Hmm

Kasi, did you also opk? Did docs test to confirm short lp?

I got a positive on day 9 and nothing on the opk since! I keep bringing up the lp issue and he says thats what the femara is for.... who knows!

 

[raelynn]

mk8 - I'm guessing testosterone androgen level and free androgen are the same but don't know since I didn't get my actual results back just the explanation over the phone from my doc. I wasn't tested to confirm ovulation either, actually my obgyn said she expects I'm not ovulating. However, my temps have gone up consistently 13 or 14 days before AF shows so based off of that, I believe I do ovulate. It just takes my body forever to finally get the signal through (due to my LH and FSH levels being switched).

 

[mk8]

kasi- hmmm- what days did you get your previous opks and did you def have a short lp then?

rae- hmmm, so doc thinks you dont o but wont give you any meds? whats the next plan of action hun? i agree you are o-ing, just a bit later than normal. have you tried reflexology or acupuncture etc at all? i heard it can regulate hormones but not sure if theres proof. i have also heard regular light exercise helps to regulate hormones in case you havent tried that.

 

[Lisa92881]

Ahhh, updates!!!

I'm 29 (turning the big 3-0 in September) and hubby is going to be 29 next month. We got married in October and I went off bcp right away. My first cycle off bcp was 60 days, and we weren't really "trying" yet since I had no idea what was going to happen. So, I'd say we've been trying since December, but I've only had 4 cycles since then, on cycle 5 now. So annoying! Been using OPKs. Went to my obgyn last month and she suggested I start temping. I'll do that for 3 months and go back in Sept (the day before my bday, ugh). I got bloodwork done last week - 5 vials, eeek!! And she gave me the stuff for hubby to get a SA, but we are waiting to see what my bloodwork has to say.

 

[kasigirl]

kasi- hmmm- what days did you get your previous opks and did you def have a short lp then?

rae- hmmm, so doc thinks you dont o but wont give you any meds? whats the next plan of action hun? i agree you are o-ing, just a bit later than normal. have you tried reflexology or acupuncture etc at all? i heard it can regulate hormones but not sure if theres proof. i have also heard regular light exercise helps to regulate hormones in case you havent tried that.

Generally I o'd around day 20 when my cycle was 27 days. I temped regulary and one month I was really excited becuase I o'd on day 15 but that just meant my period came 5 days early! The first two months on Femara were good. O'd on day 15 the first month and day 13 the second month. My cycles were 26 days the first month and 23 days the second cycle. This time I am almost 100% sure I o'd on day 9 so if my luteal phase looks like last month I should only see AF on day 19 or maybe day 20... crazy! Who knows though, maybe this is my month and my body is playing crazy tricks on me! LOL

 

[KendraNoell]

I have been off bcp since June of 2010. Hubby is 26 I'm 27. I've had my progesterone checked, ultrasound to check for cysts, thyroid, etc is all normal. Hubby is waiting to get an SA done. I honestly don't know if our issue is something to do with him or if its just awful timing on our part. I'm on a lot of meds and I really don't want to BD a lot. We are lucky if we get it in twice a week. Usually though during ovulation we BD at least once in that 48 hour window. I think we could probably try a bit harder during that time but I'd feel more comfortable knowing hubby has the green light too.

 

[kasigirl]

aghh! this sucks! today is cd1 for me. my cycle was only 16 days this month! this is making me so angry! what the hell am I supposed to do with a 16 day cycle!

 

[pinkanhopeful]

Hi Ladies

Its been busy on here, any that I have missed??

Today was my scan, dating scan, was nervous (in case there was no baby) and excited (that there was one). Well there was one in there and it put on a lovely jumping act for me and DH, the lady was quite pleased that it did, she measured baby and said i was 12w and 5d which is only a few days different to what we thought but she could tell by measurements, heartbeat normal and she said everything looked normal so by the end of the scan me and DH were smiling from ear to ear

Hows everyone doing???

 

[kasigirl]

that's great news pink!

as for me I am super frustrated today ! my cycle was only 16 days long this month!

 

[Lisa92881]

Kasi - I'm sorry. That's so frustrating. I know you said your dr wanted to wait 3 months after starting Femara, but have you called and told him/her that it seems to be really shortening your cycle??

Pink - Yay! Glad to hear everything is good.

No updates from me, still waiting to ovulate. This is getting really old.

 

[raelynn]

Me too Lisa. Really really hoping this isn't another 110 day cycle in the works but no signs so far that I'm even close to ovulation.

 

[Lisa92881]

Oh I hope you don't have another 110 day-er. That's terrible. Your chart is interesting, your temps are so regular. Mine are all over the place.

 

[kasigirl]

Kasi - I'm sorry. That's so frustrating. I know you said your dr wanted to wait 3 months after starting Femara, but have you called and told him/her that it seems to be really shortening your cycle??

Pink - Yay! Glad to hear everything is good.

No updates from me, still waiting to ovulate. This is getting really old.

I did see the Dr. last week and told him I thought I ovulated on day 9 and that I would probably only have an 18 day cycle. He told me he still wanted to see me take it for another 3 months... and here I am on day 1 starting all over again. i called and talked to his nurse and she was like we still want you to take the femara for 3 more months i was like my cycle was only 16 days this month! She said that I should have sex on days 10-18 every other day. I mentioned again that I ovulated on day 9 so that method obviously wouldn't work for me then she said to have sex starting day 6.... umm what about the fact that my luteal phase is back to 7 days? Unbelievable. I ended up going home from work I was so upset. I didn't want my employees to see me crying! I sobbed the whole way home. I am so frustrated and all I can do is cry right now. I am going to try and find a reproductive endocrynologist today that can get me in... but I am not sure who is supposed to do the blood work? Anyone know?

Thanks for letting me vent ladies! I am so sad right now and all I can think is what did I do to deserve this? My heart is so heavy right now.

 

[Lisa92881]

Oh Kasi don't think like that, you didn't do anything to deserve your crazy cycles anymore than the rest of us did. Our bodies work in mysterious ways, but we have to believe that there is a bigger plan in the works for all of us, and as much as we think we have control, this whole TTC thing is beyond our control. Stay positive. What do you mean about the bloodwork, do you mean you're not sure who orders it?? My obgyn ordered mine. (I'm already dying for the results!) But I'm sure a reproductive endo could order it too, or a fertility specialist.

 

[mk8]

Hello ladies

Kasi- sorry to hear about the ultra short cycle and LP. I agree with the others- may be worth going back to docs to tell him how short your LP has become - it has consistently become shorter as the cycles pass so perhaps Femara isn't for you? Have you read up on the side effects of this med at all?

Pink- woo hoo to bubs doing a somersault. I had a massive grin when I read that. So happy for you and Mr Pink.

Lisa/Rae- here's hoping that you O soon! How are the other signs doing? CM etc? Or you trying not to think about it?

I'm still hanging in there. Still pre O I think. CD12. I appear to have had very very little pinky discharge yest and today (after BD with hubby yest morning). I don't think it is ovulation spotting (too early for me and this happened last cycle too around about this time after I had BD with hubby. It tended to happen after - TMI warning - hubby rammed it in! I think my cervix was low and it felt too deep so maybe hubby injured me a little??) I don't think I have an STD (been with DH 8 yrs) and I had a pap smear in Mar and internal u/s end May, nothing sinister. Maybe this has happened before but I only noticed since TTC? Hmmm... Anyhoo, overall I am trying to live a healthier lifestyle this month and not OPKing or temping in order to try to reduce stress levels. Hope this is it girls!

 

[Lisa92881]

Hey mk8! Ya know, I would LOVE to not think about Oing, and just BD every other day and see what happens. Ugh, the pain of having long and irregular cycles!! No signs yet for me really, opks are negative, no noted increase or change in cm, nothing at all!

Your little story made me laugh, especially when you said "ramming it in"!! I'm sure it's nothing, maybe just got a little too frisky!!

 

[mk8]

Kasi, just saw your latest message. So sorry to see you are down Kasi. Here for you when you want to vent. The good news is that you are ovulating but I can imagine how frustrating it is that the docs tell you to keep with it for 3 months. I tried to look up Femara but can only see it assists with ovulation induction. Your doc tell you it extends LP or just generally regulate the cycle? Have you tried any other methods to extend LP?

 

[mk8]

Sorry to hear you are feeling annoyed with the long cycle Lisa. Maybe it is worth throwing the OPKs out for this cycle and just DTD every 2-3 days? That's what I tried to do anyway. It is still a bit clinical as I tell DH "tonight's the night darl face" but at least I am not analysing the pee sticks and fretting as much. Do you have any holidays planned with the hubby?

When do you get bloods results back?

 

[Lisa92881]

Sorry to hear you are feeling annoyed with the long cycle Lisa. Maybe it is worth throwing the OPKs out for this cycle and just DTD every 2-3 days? That's what I tried to do anyway. It is still a bit clinical as I tell DH "tonight's the night darl face" but at least I am not analysing the pee sticks and fretting as much. Do you have any holidays planned with the hubby?

When do you get bloods results back?

I think that would stress me out even more, not knowing if/when I was ovulating...what if we were tired and missed a few days...blah blah. I just can't win, haha. No holidays planned, thinking of doing something in August but I really want to save up to get hardwood floors. Plus I work in a school so I'm not working much this summer, I have pretty much all of August off, so money's a little tight!

Got my blood taken Thursday and my dr said it usually takes about a week. So I'm hoping to hear from her Thursday or Friday.

 

[kasigirl]

Kasi, just saw your latest message. So sorry to see you are down Kasi. Here for you when you want to vent. The good news is that you are ovulating but I can imagine how frustrating it is that the docs tell you to keep with it for 3 months. I tried to look up Femara but can only see it assists with ovulation induction. Your doc tell you it extends LP or just generally regulate the cycle? Have you tried any other methods to extend LP?

Thanks mk8... The Dr. continues to tell me that by strengthening the ovulation with Femara (or Clomid) the progesterone levels should naturally go up... I don't think that is happening in my case though as my LP continues to stay really short. Femara gave me a 10 day LP the first month, 9 the next then only 7 this last time... back to where I started.... I did take b complex for a few months and other than blurring my vision it didn't budge my luteal phase....

I am feeling a bit better now. I did make an appt with an RE, of course I was crying on the phone, poor girl that took my call! I tried to keep it together but just can't stop crying when I think or talk about it...


Lisa/Rae, I am sorry your cycles are so long! I know you both mentioned you have appts... do you really have to wait until the 1 year mark?