TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[skye2010]

Baby4MJ there might be afew reasons for implantation.

Your blood maybe quite thick and you might need blood thinners (asprin, heparin injections) and the amount you need might be more than just 1 a day.

Also progestrone if your body doesn't need it can have a negative effect than positive.

It might be that you have an autoimmune issue. Even though you don't show any signs of it if your blood levels show some issues you might be facing this problem. Conventional medics use steroids for this issue. Very few specialised and controversial clinics actually have a treatment plan. Have you ever had any immune testing on your blood?

I don't know how old you are but your FS results and AMH results give a good idea on the eggs. Was your results elevated at all?

 

[Mommy's Angel]

I agree with MA that we are a niche group. I would like to support you MA but didn't get what's going on )) Maybe the change didn't happen to uk site? Theree must be administrator somewhere. Maybe the lady who started the 35+ TTC group? Wobbles...

https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-conceive-over-35/354690-welcome-trying-conceive-over-35-a.html

They put you guys in "ttc discussions and groups" If you go all the way to the top where you'll see the titles you'll see ttc>ttc discussions & groups> then our group title.

As much as we talk in here, this group is NOT a ttc discussion group! We're women 35+ who've had either miscarriages or have been ttc for years. In my opinion this discussion group is MORE than just a discussion but a support for women of our age when there are HUNDREDS of threads for women of child-baring age who aren't having any issues whatsoever. Other women NEED this thread and it should be kept in 35+ where it can be seen by women who feel helpless or hopeless for encouragement, help through fertility issues and other emotional situations as they ttc.

I know I'm in the graduates thread now and we're stuck in the "discussion" forum because there's no forum for pregnant women 35+ or mommies 35+ with infants, toddlers and such. We are in a way a "discussion group" but THIS thread is the Origional and it's OBVIOUSELY women 35+ttc so moving the thread to discussion was a bad move on someones part. To me it makes me feel yet again like we're being pushed aside for age and thrown in with the kids who can easily conceive. I know I'm hotheaded about this...probably making mountains out of molehills here but I just get frustrated with taking an origional HELPFUL thread for women of 35+ and throwing them in a "discussion" group as though it's just women who are 35+ discussing simple things. It's not a simple issue...having struggled for 10 years to conceive a child and dealing with fertility issues it's not a simple subject to be thrown in a forum with women of ALL ages who haven't a clue what it's like to suffer loss after loss or negative after negative and be told your eggs are getting old. Nope, I'm hotheaded because this belongs in the 35+ forum to encourage and be seen by women who have no support at home or anywhere else.

I'm down off my soapbox now.

 

[Baby4MJ]

Baby4MJ there might be afew reasons for implantation.

Your blood maybe quite thick and you might need blood thinners (asprin, heparin injections) and the amount you need might be more than just 1 a day.

Also progestrone if your body doesn't need it can have a negative effect than positive.

It might be that you have an autoimmune issue. Even though you don't show any signs of it if your blood levels show some issues you might be facing this problem. Conventional medics use steroids for this issue. Very few specialised and controversial clinics actually have a treatment plan. Have you ever had any immune testing on your blood?

I don't know how old you are but your FS results and AMH results give a good idea on the eggs. Was your results elevated at all?

Hi, skye 2010 -

Thanks for your post. I appreciate all the advice. I'm 39 years old as of this past January. I've been through so much testing, it's hard to remember which tests I've had. I have been tested for clotting disorder and thyroid function and chromosomal disorder - all came back clean. The baby aspirin and progesterone was recommended by my ob-gyn and supported by my RE under the "it doesn't hurt and may help" theory. I didn't know there could be negatives with progesterone supplementation. What are some of the negatives?

I'm not sure about blood immune testing? Do you know what the technical term is for that kind of test (unless that is the technical term?). I can check my records to see if I've ever had that done.

I've had FSH and estriadol testing: results were 6.15 (FSH) and 81.2 (estradiol), which I am told is elevated somewhat. Not great not horrible, per my RE. She said she likes to see FSH 5 or under and the estriadol cutoff is 80. So I am considered borderline when it comes to ovarian reserve. That's why she started me on clomid (didn't work) then femara (didn't work) then follistim and ovidrel for IUI (didn't work) to crank out more eggies with the hopes that one or two were good ones. I had a great response (6 mature follies with the clomid and 3-4 with the other drugs) but just didn't get preg when on the drugs...{sigh} Not sure if this is the same as AMH testing but seems similar?

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Baby4MJ there might be afew reasons for implantation.

Your blood maybe quite thick and you might need blood thinners (asprin, heparin injections) and the amount you need might be more than just 1 a day.

Also progestrone if your body doesn't need it can have a negative effect than positive.

It might be that you have an autoimmune issue. Even though you don't show any signs of it if your blood levels show some issues you might be facing this problem. Conventional medics use steroids for this issue. Very few specialised and controversial clinics actually have a treatment plan. Have you ever had any immune testing on your blood?

I don't know how old you are but your FS results and AMH results give a good idea on the eggs. Was your results elevated at all?

Hi, skye 2010 -

Thanks for your post. I appreciate all the advice. I'm 39 years old as of this past January. I've been through so much testing, it's hard to remember which tests I've had. I have been tested for clotting disorder and thyroid function and chromosomal disorder - all came back clean. The baby aspirin and progesterone was recommended by my ob-gyn and supported by my RE under the "it doesn't hurt and may help" theory. I didn't know there could be negatives with progesterone supplementation. What are some of the negatives?

I'm not sure about blood immune testing? Do you know what the technical term is for that kind of test (unless that is the technical term?). I can check my records to see if I've ever had that done.

I've had FSH and estriadol testing: results were 6.15 (FSH) and 81.2 (estradiol), which I am told is elevated somewhat. Not great not horrible, per my RE. She said she likes to see FSH 5 or under and the estriadol cutoff is 80. So I am considered borderline when it comes to ovarian reserve. That's why she started me on clomid (didn't work) then femara (didn't work) then follistim and ovidrel for IUI (didn't work) to crank out more eggies with the hopes that one or two were good ones. I had a great response (6 mature follies with the clomid and 3-4 with the other drugs) but just didn't get preg when on the drugs...{sigh} Not sure if this is the same as AMH testing but seems similar?

Have you ever been tested for MTHFR testing? Since you've had three mc's this could be a reason. It's also a reason many take asprin, however more is needed if you find you are positive.

What is MTHFR?

MTHFR Questions

MTHFR Forum


I also believe there are a couple people on here who have a type of this. I can't remember who though.

 

[skye2010]

AMH testing is similar, it tells you about your ovarian reserve as well. I don't know the exact parameter but if your egg reserves are on the decline the egg quality can get lower as well. If you are 39 and already tried 3 IUI's the medical protocol is for IVF. It is a difficult step to take for some people. (Certainly was a hard decision for me) But your chances are much higher since IVF is a much more comprehensive treatment.

I am seeing a contraversial clinic right now and not sure if some of the treatment work or not so I don't want to confuse you. But mention the steroids to your Dr and see what he says. I don't know how conventional clinics determine who gets to use the steroids. You can google steroid and infertility if you like. The IVF I had previously was with a clinic in Turkey. And they used steroids and some of the hormones as a standard procedure which completely threw my system into chaos. The clinic i am with now prescribes progestrone but all different doses. (I'm on suppositories while some or on shots which are much more stronger) Same with blood thinners. all differnt amounts. Some also use steroids and some other meds only if they need it.

MA I don't like the idea of becoming a discussion group either. This group does get it's strength from being so tight knit and we actually make a bond with each and every member. It wouldn't work if it would turn into a drop in thread at all. Actually people who drop in kind of fall out in time cause our issues don't fit their needs. And we all here actually take our time and make an effort individually on each persoon. So it's not fair if it is watered down like that. What do you think we should do about this. Shall we actually write a mail to the administrator?

 

[Mommy's Angel]

AMH testing is similar, it tells you about your ovarian reserve as well. I don't know the exact parameter but if your egg reserves are on the decline the egg quality can get lower as well. If you are 39 and already tried 3 IUI's the medical protocol is for IVF. It is a difficult step to take for some people. (Certainly was a hard decision for me) But your chances are much higher since IVF which is a much more comprehensive treatment.

I am seeing a contraversial clinic right now and not sure if some of the treatment work or not so I don't want to confuse you. But mention the steroids to your Dr and see what he says. I don't know how conventional clinics determine who gets to use the steroids. You can google steroid and infertility if you like. The IVF I had previously was with a clinic in Turkey. And they used steroids and some of the hormones as a standard procedure which completely threw my system into chaos. The clinic prescribed progestrone but all different doses. (I'm on suppositories while some or on shots which are much more stronger) Same with blood thinners. all differnt amounts. Some also use steroids and some other meds only if they need it.

MA I don't like the idea of becoming a discussion group either. This group does get it's strength from being so tight knit and we actually make a bond with each and every member. It wouldn't work if it would turn into a drop in thread at all. Actually people who drop in kind of fall out in time cause our issues don't fit their needs. And we all here actually take our time and make an effort individually on each persoon. So it's not fair if it is watered down like that. What do you think we should do about this. Shall we actually write a mail to the administrator?

Couldn't figure out who the Admin was so I placed a thread in the TTC 35+ forum and sent a message feedback to "Contact Me".

Since I am now in the "Graduates" thread, it probably would be good to get feedback from those of you ladies who are in here still.

I'm hotheaded about this subject because I will ALWAYS be a member in here. I have a heart for those who have fertility issues like myself and are 35 or older. This isn't a light subject and takes it's toll on each and everyone of us in here no matter how long it's taken! This is a community of women who have become friends over time.

I have to also ask why the 40+ women are STILL able to be over there and why WE were moved to discussion??

 

[skye2010]

Weird I don't understand why they are doing this but there are other threads that have turned into discussion groups as well. It is really weird to be on the same page as all the irrelevant subjects. Anyone who is spesificaly lookiing for TTC 35+ 1st child will never be able to find us cause we are not even under 35+ page. Also this way we can't come out of it and have a glance at other related threads with TTC35. This is very inconvenient and I would like to know why they have done this. The administrators name is Wobbles. Should we be writing a message in her mailbox?

 

[lavalux]

Forgive the general group post today. I'm cramping and my patience is in shorter supply than usual, but I wanted to touch base before the thread got away from me.

First, What is smep, y'all?

Second, Thanks for the and encouragement. I am feeling a little better today emotionally, but still sad that AF arrived. I talked to my nurse and explained that I felt uncomfortable moving forward with the same femara/IUI protocol as last cycle without talking to the doctor first. So, she scheduled us for another consult with the RE to ask about adding injectibles to the cycle and rechecking my progesterone (since I got my period 10 days after ovulation and that seemed pretty short to me compared to previous cycles). Since IVF, which was recommended for June, is not affordable for us now, I'm hoping the doctor will think outside the box and give us some other options. There may not be a whole lot more than can be done, but at least DH & I will hear it directly from the doctor.

I agree that moving our thread may make it more difficult for other ladies who would benefit from us to find our group. I never look in the discussions group threads. I know part of our strength is how close knit we are, but we can't survive without an infusion of new women to our group. I am so thankful that I found you ladies. The additions to our group just since I've joined have been immensely valuable. I am sad for those needing support who may not find their way to us. What can I do to help?

Hope everyone is having a good day!

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Weird I don't understand why they are doing this but there are other threads that have turned into discussion groups as well. It is really weird to be on the same page as all the irrelevant subjects. Anyone who is spesificaly lookiing for TTC 35+ 1st child will never be able to find us cause we are not even under 35+ page. Also this way we can't come out of it and have a glance at other related threads with TTC35. This is very inconvenient and I would like to know why they have done this. The administrators name is Wobbles. Should we be writing a message in her mailbox?

YUP! And send her THIS thread as well!!Move back 35+TTC#1 from Discussions board

Also link THIS thread so she knows which specifically to put BACK.

I find this affensive that we're thrown with the rest of the board like we're a simple discussion! Now we're mixed in with women who are pregnant . No affense to me. or other groups that as Skye said have no relevance to the topic here. This is a ttc thread for 35+ and many women haven't the slightest clue how long it takes for us let alone the heartbreak many of us had either with mc's or with negative testing time after time.

 

[skye2010]

Alternatively we could start a new thread under a similar name. But I don't know if they would move that straight away too? Or we could become a terrorist thread and go undercover under various names each week
But seriously girls what should we do about this. I'm going to bed now so see u guys later xxxx

 

[skye2010]

Ok MA definitely will do that tomorrow morning, Thanks for that xxxx

 

[gingerbread]

SMEP is "sperm meets egg plan"

-with a 28 day cycle start opk testing on day 10 and begin bding every other day also(starting on day 10)

-the day you get a +opk, bd that day and the next two days as well(3days in a row)

-skip bding for one day & then bd one more time

-test 14 days later

I dont have a clue as to if this truley helps(they say it increases chances to 40%, although some are suspicious as to the research done) It sounds alot like what we all do anyway but for some reason it has been given a name & a lot of women swear by it. Couldnt hurt to try???

If you go to "search" and type in smep it will show you some forums, just scroll down till you cross one.

Let me know, whoever reads up on it, what you think!

 

[gingerbread]

Not sure if I made it clear that you opk "every" day starting day 10 but bd every "other" day starting on day 10(and prop hips 10-30mins). and its test 14dpo..my mistake!

 

[Nikki Leigh]

Sorry, this post is "all about me."

So my doctor called and thought that my 4.5 progesterone levels were "borderline," meaning that I probably did ovulate but might not have.

She is fine if I continue to decide to stay with her, but I think that she feels that at this point, we need a FS to give us the best chance of success (my FSH levels back in October were high). The big problem is that my DH is, last we talked dead set about spending a bunch of $ to "knock me up." Given that IVF is not covered by insurance, I think that IUI might be the limit for us, if that. He REALLY hopes and believes that we can conceive naturally. He even "demanded" that I bring no more Chinese herbs in the house (from the acupuncturist).

She encouraged me to try and have another talk with DH, which I will tonight if I can. She doesn't want us to waste more time if we do think that IVF or IUI w/injectibles is in our future. She can assign Clomid to me, and she can do IUI without injectibles.

Since I should be starting Clomid tonight or tomorrow (can't recall which) I will need to have a heart to heart with DH. He felt pretty confident that I was PG this month, which I was not so confident about anyway. Also, he mentioned that he joked this was the last year he would be able to not spend $ on mother's day for me since we'll have a kid or I'll be PG. But his optimism does not align with the reality of my hormonal situation, IMO.

I'm ambivalent about Clomid. I know nothing about it really, and can't decide if I want to try it this month or not. I've heard of lousy side-effects, and don't know if it will even help since my FSH is already elevated.

I might try to go to an acupuncturist focused on fertility, as I know that I enjoy acupuncture.

I just don't know ladies.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Sorry, this post is "all about me."

So my doctor called and thought that my 4.5 progesterone levels were "borderline," meaning that I probably did ovulate but might not have.

She is fine if I continue to decide to stay with her, but I think that she feels that at this point, we need a FS to give us the best chance of success (my FSH levels back in October were high). The big problem is that my DH is, last we talked dead set about spending a bunch of $ to "knock me up." Given that IVF is not covered by insurance, I think that IUI might be the limit for us, if that. He REALLY hopes and believes that we can conceive naturally. He even "demanded" that I bring no more Chinese herbs in the house (from the acupuncturist).

She encouraged me to try and have another talk with DH, which I will tonight if I can. She doesn't want us to waste more time if we do think that IVF or IUI w/injectibles is in our future. She can assign Clomid to me, and she can do IUI without injectibles.

Since I should be starting Clomid tonight or tomorrow (can't recall which) I will need to have a heart to heart with DH. He felt pretty confident that I was PG this month, which I was not so confident about anyway. Also, he mentioned that he joked this was the last year he would be able to not spend $ on mother's day for me since we'll have a kid or I'll be PG. But his optimism does not align with the reality of my hormonal situation, IMO.

I'm ambivalent about Clomid. I know nothing about it really, and can't decide if I want to try it this month or not. I've heard of lousy side-effects, and don't know if it will even help since my FSH is already elevated.

I might try to go to an acupuncturist focused on fertility, as I know that I enjoy acupuncture.

I just don't know ladies.

So sorry I'm getting a blank here but what treatment have you done already if you don't mind me asking? I can't tell if you've done Clomid, then gone on to injectables with IUI or if you were just ttc without meds.

I'll share my route: We had three cycles of Clomid 50, 100 and 150. Clomid just didn't work for me and it was kind of disappointing. Usually after 3 cycles of clomid you go on to Injectables. I went on to injectables but figured if I was going to do that, I would do the IUI with it because it was a more aggressive approach.

For me the combination under my siggie worked. It was the third round that ended up doing the job. I think it was partially the estrogen pill they gave to thicken the lining as I've read where MANY women conceived and the egg implanted REALLY well. It took me three cycles to find out the right doseage for me, but it can sometimes take longer for some women. They were going to give up on me until my levels showed progression. Our insurance covers 6 IUI's in a lifetime. I only used three (would like to try again maybe a year or two after this one so I'll need those three others)

If you've never used other drugs in the fertility route, the best advice is to try the Clomid for three cycles. Not ALL women get during that. I know some women who've done well on it. two of my friends even conceived on it. For me it wasn't agressive enough.

If you've already done a drug like Clomid, I would pass it and get more agressive. I wasn't sure if you were saying you have IUI's that are covered or not, but I HIGHLY recommend the Menopur and Bravelle cocktail Injections. For me what worked was two vials of Menopur and two of Bravelle in the end with one trigger shot to release the follies. If you decide to go this route, Make sure they see you before, and during your period so they can check out your lining. That's how they found out my lining was thin and gave me the estrogen pill for the lining.

If you decide IVF is the route, there are several women who can help you. I haven't gotten that far and only know parts of the drugs used but nothing of the in depth you'd need to know as many of the gals in here do.

Of course if you decide to forgo the IVF because of personal reasons that's okay too. One option we weighed in the end was whether we'd move to adoption or IVF. We've always known we'd eventually adopt so we decided to forgo the IVF. At the 11th hour RIGHT AFTER I started my adoption website, we found out we were pregnant.

Of course now my adoption site is empty and while I'm excited about this little one I'm carrying, I'm also crying for the child I know is ours in Africa where we will start the process one day. Right now we're trying to enjoy where we are.

I pray that you find peace in whatever decision you make. I know how hard this is for you Weigh your options, discuss it with DH and make your decision from there. With all the different treatments it's SO hard to know what works for our bodies. We're all uniquely made and sometimes it takes more time to see results.

P.S., I went back to read about your progesterone levels and had to mention that for awhile with the injectables I was taken...I was given TWO trigger shots. The second was given 10 days later to keep the surge of progesterone going. That therapy proved to hyperstimulate me so I had to give the second trigger shot up, however I keep wondering if you'd benefit from progesterone treatment during the process.

Also, are you seeing a regular physician, an OB or a Reproductive Endochrinologist? You'd benefit more with an RE in my opinion because they are more equipped to deal with thyroid issues AND ttc.

 

[FutureMommie]

Padrat- sending hugs you way, come back to the thread when you are ready

Skye- glad you are feeling better today, my RE suggested gatorade becuase of all of the electrolytes. I drank tons of it.

Lynnb - enjoy your vacay

Never=rooting for you

Lava- I hope your RE tries the injections to at least see how you respond. I'm so sorry af showed for you.

Ginger- I hope the 2ww goes by fast, I'm ot counting so not sure how many dpo I am it seems less stressful that way.

Luv- Sending O dust your way

MA totally agree about moving our thread, that totally sucks!

Nikki- I hope that you and dh have a good talk tonight so that you guys can decided what your next move is.

afm- I'm not sure how many dpo I am it is so much easier that way. I'm not stressing right now, I hope it stays that way.

 

[lavalux]

MA,
That post was very informative for me too because I am trying to educate myself on IUI + injectibles so that I can discuss that protocol with my doctor. I don't think that the Femara IUI was aggressive enough. I had 4 follies but only 1 mature one at my mid-cycle check. Also, they keep saying my progesterone test results were good and my lining looked thick on the u/s so I don't need anything, but if I got my period on 10-11 DPO, wouldn't that mean I didn't have enough? So, Did you do 3 cycles of IUI + injectibles and the 3rd one worked? Also, how much did all the injectibles medication cost for each IUI cycle? I have a few thousand dollars saved which I can use, but obviously ... the less money I need to spend, the more in the fund for donor egg IVF or adoption down the road. I really appreciate you sharing your experience!

 

[HappyAuntie]

Alright, just stepping out of lurkdom to recommend everyone take a deep breath on the moving the thread issue....

If you go to the TTC Over 35 forum page, you will see that the title of this thread is still on that page and it has been transformed into a link that takes you to the new location of this thread... so people who go to the TTC Over 35 forum will still be able to find the thread. The thread has not been moved to a general discussions forum, it has been moved to a TTC Discussions forum. So yes, it will not be in the same place we all originally found it, but it fits its new location arguably just as well as it fit the old. I don't like that they moved it without any explanation, but I'm sure the admins had some reason. They moved quite a few threads out of the TTC Over 35 forum, so it's possible they're doing some housekeeping or perhaps they have some changes in mind for the TTC Over 35 section. Who knows. But I don't think there was any malicious intent.

Also, technically this is not a thread of women over 35 who've had a mc or have been ttc for years and years. The title of the thread indicates we're all over 35 and all ttc #1. Within those parameters we've all had a wide range of experiences. Yes, some of us have had a loss (or two or three). Yes, some of us are LONG term ttc. But then some have gotten pg with absolutely no trouble and have never had a loss. But the one common thread among all of us is that we're all ttc our first child, and we're all 35+.

So everybody please take a deep breath. IMO the fact that this thread is now located in the TTC Discussion page is no big deal. We're all ttc, that's what we come here to discuss (although we all love a good tangent!), and the title of the thread clearly indicates it's for women over 35 who are ttc #1. I don't really understand the need to move it, but in the end I think we'll all be fine. It's not like they deleted us - now THAT would pi$$ me off!!

And just an aside on celiac disease/wheat/infertility - my mom has celiac disease so I know quite a lot about it. IF you have celiac disease, you need to avoid gluten, which is found in a TON of things other than wheat. And yes, celiac disease can cause infertility. But if you think you may have celiac disease, you need to see a gastroenterologist about it, not an accupuncturist. Untreated celiac disease is linked to a whole host of life-threatening illnesses, so you really need to be checked out by a specialist. The initial screening for celiac disease is a simple blood test which checks for certain antibodies. If your blood screening comes back positive, you will need a biopsy of the small intestine to confirm a diagnosis. A positive biopsy is the only way to get a diagnosis of celiac. And a very important note - if you suspect you may have celiac, DO NOT stop eating gluten before seeing the dr for these tests. The tests will only show positive in the presence of gluten, so if you stop eating it and then go for testing, you may get a false negative. I'm happy to answer any other questions about celiac if anyone has some.

Ok, back to my lurkdom. ladies!!

 

[Mommy's Angel]

MA,
That post was very informative for me too because I am trying to educate myself on IUI + injectibles so that I can discuss that protocol with my doctor. I don't think that the Femara IUI was aggressive enough. I had 4 follies but only 1 mature one at my mid-cycle check. Also, they keep saying my progesterone test results were good and my lining looked thick on the u/s so I don't need anything, but if I got my period on 10-11 DPO, wouldn't that mean I didn't have enough? So, Did you do 3 cycles of IUI + injectibles and the 3rd one worked? Also, how much did all the injectibles medication cost for each IUI cycle? I have a few thousand dollars saved which I can use, but obviously ... the less money I need to spend, the more in the fund for donor egg IVF or adoption down the road. I really appreciate you sharing your experience!

When did you have the ultrasound done to check the lining?? My OB found it by the grace of God because we had to check my follies early for size in case I was to Hyperstim again that cycle. So I think I was scanned around cd 3 or 4 when they found my lining. I still had AF at the time. I'd have them scan CD 1 and CD 4 or at least CD 4.

I actually wasted 1 IUI on the first darn Clomid cycle where they were excited for just the 1 follie The other two times were IUI with Injectables and another injectable cycle I was out because I hyperstimmed.

I origionally asked for Gonal-F in the beginning but the Dr. said that the combination of Menopur and Bravelle worked better than the Gonal-F. I'm not sure how true that is, but eventually the cocktail of the two worked well for me It WAS the third cycle of injectables that did work for me. Keep in mind that it can take 3-6 months to find the right doseage and the right moment for swimmies to hit the follies. Alot of women get discouraged if it doesn't work on the first or second try. It REALLY is trying to find the right doseage and drug that will work.

Also, in my opinion if one combination of injectables or drugs were tried for a long period of time (many cycles) it's time to move on to a different drug. Maybe for some Gonal -F worked but maybe in others it's the combination of Bravelle and Menopur with trigger that works.

The frustrating part of it all is we all have different body makeups and what works for one may not be what works for another. Either way, it's worth a try. What I've learned from this is WE know our bodies. If something isn't working, try a different combination. Dont give up unless you've tried a doseage for awhile. We know that Femara and Clomid should only be done 3 consecutive cycles. After that, if it doesn't work, moveon to injectables. Try one type of injectable plan for a few cycles and if it's not working, try the other cocktal, if that doesn't work there is the option for IVF or as we will one day do, Adoption.

As for the cost of injectables. Mine were covered under my husbands insurance and we paid very little for them. I can check on the pricing of the drugs and get back to you. Do you have prescription coverage? Can you call them and find out if your insurance prescription plan covers it and if not, find out how much the local pharmacy in your area charges??

Also will you be footing the bill for scans during the monitoring process for IUI? Or will that be covered under insurance?

It's a very STRESSFUL road some of us have been on. The key is not to give up your dreams. It may not happen exactly when and how we'd like it to, but this is why we have each other for support, to share what worked for each of us and to cry with each other or cheer for those who've finally reached a pregnancy. I hope to see EVERYONE in here finally get their bfp. Weigh the pro's and con's and make the right decision for each of YOU. Only YOU know your bodies!

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Alright, just stepping out of lurkdom to recommend everyone take a deep breath on the moving the thread issue....

If you go to the TTC Over 35 forum page, you will see that the title of this thread is still on that page and it has been transformed into a link that takes you to the new location of this thread... so people who go to the TTC Over 35 forum will still be able to find the thread.

Also, technically this is not a thread of women over 35 who've had a mc or have been ttc for years and years. The title of the thread indicates we're all over 35 and all ttc #1. Within those parameters we've all had a wide range of experiences. Yes, some of us have had a loss (or two or three). Yes, some of us are LONG term ttc. But then some have gotten pg with absolutely no trouble and have never had a loss. But the one common thread among all of us is that we're all ttc our first child, and we're all 35+.

So everybody please take a deep breath. IMO the fact that this thread is now located in the TTC Discussion page is no big deal. We're all ttc, that's what we come here to discuss (although we all love a good tangent!), and the title of the thread clearly indicates it's for women over 35 who are ttc #1. I don't really understand the need to move it, but in the end I think we'll all be fine. It's not like they deleted us - now THAT would pi$$ me off!!

And just an aside on celiac disease/wheat/infertility - my mom has celiac disease so I know quite a lot about it. IF you have celiac disease, you need to avoid gluten, which is found in a TON of things other than wheat. And yes, celiac disease can cause infertility. But if you think you may have celiac disease, you need to see a gastroenterologist about it, not an accupuncturist. Untreated celiac disease is linked to a whole host of life-threatening illnesses, so you really need to be checked out by a specialist. The initial screening for celiac disease is a simple blood test which checks for certain antibodies. If your blood screening comes back positive, you will need a biopsy of the small intestine to confirm a diagnosis. A positive biopsy is the only way to get a diagnosis of celiac. And a very important note - if you suspect you may have celiac, DO NOT stop eating gluten before seeing the dr for these tests. The tests will only show positive in the presence of gluten, so if you stop eating it and then go for testing, you may get a false negative. I'm happy to answer any other questions about celiac if anyone has some.

Ok, back to my lurkdom. ladies!!

With new posts on that forum they will be pushed down and the likelihood of anyone 35+ ttc their first child who needs support and encouragement may never find such an awesome thread. I understand that some here have conceived without difficulty, but lets be honest here, if it was so easy do you think we'd have a thread specifically for 35+ ttc #1? We're a HUGE population of women who are being told we have unexplained infertility, some who are told their eggs are "old" which is rediculous to make to such young women, and those who've yes, had one or multiple mc's or for some reason haven't achieved a pregnancy no matter how hard.

I think it's crazy to throw these women in with threads that have no real familiarity to the topic and in the main forum where majority of the women are of child-baring age and have no idea what it's like to be told your too old, we don't know why you can't get pregnant, have never lost a child or felt the sharp tear of a negative test over and over again.

There are women who will miss this thread who don't have that kind of support at home or with their immediate friends that can use this as a tool to work through the emotions, find out what works for everyone else and just encourage one another. In my opinion it would be sad to throw this into a "discussion" yes we're ttc #1 and for me...trying to keep my pregnancy, but the conversations in this thread are REAL topics of whom many women ARE struggling or have. There's nothing wrong with women who are of our age and haven't had to struggle, don't get me wrong, but many of us who've had heartbreak, some have struggled but have found VICTORY in the end with their journey and those who have a WEALTH of information like you, and the other girls who've been through one treatment or another. It would just be so sad to see the thread disappear into a "discussion" forum. I think it's kind of belittling yet again to middle age women who NEED this kind of conversation with other like-minded women and not have to bare the burden of answering questions from young kids who've never been there.

Maybe I'm just overstepping my boundery here. I know that I "graduated" but yet I still feel a part of this thread. I'm still that girl afraid of losing her child that finds herself struggling to keep not my first child, but my second-first here on earth. I honestly don't know where I fit in at the moment. My body says one thing, my head says another. It's a total struggle for me right now to remember where my faith lies.

So sorry if I'm over-stepping my bounderies with getting my "panties in a wadd" I do worry if I affend people by still posting in here.